Discussion Is being an incel part of natural selection?

[GoldenSW]

Do you think being an incel is just part of natural selection? For much of human history, a greater amount of women in the population reproduced relative to men. It's happened before and it may be happening again due to the widespread access to chads. Whether we are here because of looks or mental disorders I don't think any of us would want any potential children to inherit these traits which only led to suffering and I think a lot of women also instinctively sense this and avoid us.
You could present the argument that a few decades ago we wouldn't have been incel due to different circumstances, but evolutionarily speaking any specimen that has the capacity to adapt is superior.

 

[Subhuman Niceguy]

Yes, it is. Chad is Aryan, white, and confident - any gook, nigger, curry, or ugly white guy will never be able to compete for a foid's attention with chad.

 

[Saint Cho]

Yep, so none of us can be blamed for the way we turned out.

When women wanna be chad only whores, blame natural/sexual selection.

When ugly men LDAR, go ER, or rope as a result of loneliness, blame natural/sexual selection.

 

[TheProphetMuscle]

Yea we’re the bad weak genetics getting filtered out

 

[GoldenSW]

I agree. As a result of these predetermined traits, society decided it doesn't care about our well-being so why should we give a single fuck about the well-being of the society?

 

[Deleted member 41190]

gene lottery to

 

[Persecuted]

Nothing is natural in modern female hypergamy. In prehistoric time foids didn't have smartphones with dating apps, social benefits, easy access to means of transport and any law protecting them. Moreover, if we still followed the same evolutionary pattern, humanity would still live in caves and in wilds. It's only, because of monogamy that men created civilazation as it allowed men to create communities instead of fighting eachother for foids.

This appeal to nature fallacy needs to end - not only it's used selectively to justify foids whoring, but it's never used to justify rape - everything about how the humans live now is unnatural.

 

[mentally lost cel 1]

Nothing is natural in modern female hypergamy. In prehistoric time foids didn't have smartphones with dating apps, social benefits, easy access to means of transport and any law protecting them. Moreover, if we still followed the same evolutionary pattern, humanity would still live in caves and in wilds. It's only, because of monogamy that men created civilazation as it allowed men to create communities instead of fighting eachother for foids.

This appeal to nature fallacy needs to end - not only it's used selectively to justify foids whoring, but it's never used to justify rape - everything about how the humans live now is unnatural.

Agreed

 

[Deleted member 41988]

no, oh in the actual state of things yes, but chad's genes aren't better genes, in my opinion kindness, intelligence >>>> look, but foids don't seem to notice other than look and height

 

[shynesskills]

Nothing is natural in modern female hypergamy. In prehistoric time foids didn't have smartphones with dating apps, social benefits, easy access to means of transport and any law protecting them. Moreover, if we still followed the same evolutionary pattern, humanity would still live in caves and in wilds. It's only, because of monogamy that men created civilazation as it allowed men to create communities instead of fighting eachother for foids.

This appeal to nature fallacy needs to end - not only it's used selectively to justify foids whoring, but it's never used to justify rape - everything about how the humans live now is unnatural.

If males didn't enforce monogamy and females were to exert unrestricted female choice, we might have been super humans by now (if those past societies managed to suppress their incels anger while still exploiting their labour)

 

[Persecuted]

If males didn't enforce monogamy and females were to exert unrestricted female choice, we might have been super humans by now (if those past societies managed to suppress their incels anger while still exploiting their labour)

Cope.
All of matriarchal society that exist today are tribal stone-age troglodytes. It's patriarchy that moves society forward.

 

[shynesskills]

Cope.
All of matriarchal society that exist today are tribal stone-age troglodytes. It's patriarchy that moves society forward.

How does it? The gene pool can't really improve, if you have no sexual selection like in patriarchy.

 

[grondilu]

Incels are failing because of evolution

Natural selection always takes the best genes in a species and extincts the other genes. So basically when a woman turns you down , its to resist your genes. Its all part or nature. Its our turn to be turned down by evoltution. I'm not saying I know for sure. Its just an hypothesis. It could...

incels.is

 

[grondilu]

This appeal to nature fallacy needs to end - not only it's used selectively to justify foids whoring, but it's never used to justify rape - everything about how the humans live now is unnatural.

Nicely summed up.

I'd like to add that I genuinely don't care about not having offspring. I don't want to support other people's offspring, though.

 

[Persecuted]

How does it? The gene pool can't really improve, if you have no sexual selection like in patriarchy.

How does being tall and attractive benefits society ? Sexual selection is purely artificial and only benefits the foids. Humans populated entire planet and no longer struggle for survival. What does "improving" gene pool going to accomplish? Nothing, humans are already on the top of the food chain. Selxual/natural selection argument is just attempt at justifying hypergamy.

 

[grondilu]

Nothing, humans are already on the top of the food chain.

We want to stay there, though.

Red Queen hypothesis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That being said, as we've argued many times here, it is questionable that sexual selection "improves" the species.

 

[Nihilistic Lowlife]

I mean yeah it's an universal blackpill fact "i was born and it's was over" (Hamudi) is a famous sentence that answers your question very well

 

[Persecuted]

We want to stay there, though.

Red Queen hypothesis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That being said, as we've argued many times here, it is questionable that sexual selection "improves" the species.

And what species threatens to take this position away from humans? None, humans have no competition. Humans sooner end themselves than face extinction form competiton and no sexual selection is going to breed out nukes.

 

[atrangi25]

The one and only law of nature:
Survival of the fittest

 

[Zhou Chang-Xing]

The idea that only a minority of men reproduced throughout human history is a myth, monogamy was the rule for most of the world because it is more efficient, only the top men (status-wise, not looks-wise) in primitive societies had multiple wives. The real reason most men didn't reproduce is simple, war.

Meanwhile we did experience a bottleneck of male genetics during the agricultural revolution. YouTuber Alexander Grace actually thinks that the Tinder model might cause another genetic bottleneck.

Natural selection doesn't always favour the best genes, it simply favours the most adapted genes, and Chad's are most adapted to toilets' standards.

 

[shynesskills]

How does being tall and attractive benefits society ? Sexual selection is purely artificial and only benefits the foids. Humans populated entire planet and no longer struggle for survival. What does "improving" gene pool going to accomplish? Nothing, humans are already on the top of the food chain. Selxual/natural selection argument is just attempt at justifying hypergamy.

What makes you believe that humans are more than animals? Why would you exclude our race from sexual selection?

 

[erenyeager]

Yes, it is. Chad is Aryan, white, and confident - any gook, nigger, curry, or ugly white guy will never be able to compete for a foid's attention with chad.

Or mixed. But those guys so ugly they ghosts like me

 

[erenyeager]

Yes, but now for the first time in history we can do something about it

Can we use the rumbling or roasting?

 

[Persecuted]

Why would you exclude our race from sexual selection?

Decide faggot, if you want talk about sexual or natural selection. Animals don't give a shit about theory of evolution. Selection happens in natural world in a process of survival. Animals don't select. The ones who managed to breed did it, because they manage to stay alive.

What makes you believe that humans are more than animals?

Internet, medicine, technology, transport, culture, all of those occur in natural world, right?

 

[shynesskills]

Decide faggot, if you want talk about sexual or natural selection. Animals don't give a shit about theory of evolution. Selection happens in natural world in a process of survival. Animals don't select. The ones who managed to breed did it, because they manage to stay alive.


Internet, medicine, technology, transport, culture, all of those occur in natural world, right?

Those are no arguments that makes human males be excluded from female choice, just because patriarchy suppressed female choice for thousands of years, doesn’t mean that it is an eternal state. Natural order is being reinstated by feminism and they won’t give it back to males. I think we human males are approaching a genetic bottle neck, and we should be terrified by it.

 

[i_want_emo_gf]

Natural selection is just the blackpill in action. Ugly dudes are naturally weeded out of the gene pool. It’s what nature and foids intended

 

[Persecuted]

Those are no arguments that makes human males be excluded from female choice, just because patriarchy suppressed female choice for thousands of years, doesn’t mean that it is an eternal state. Natural order is being reinstated by feminism and they won’t give it back to males. I think we human males are approaching a genetic bottle neck, and we should be terrified by it.

You clearly have no idea how evolution or natural selection works.

 

[NoLooksNoLife]

No shit GrAYwad

 

[SlayerSlayer]

Do you think being an incel is just part of natural selection? For much of human history, a greater amount of women in the population reproduced relative to men. It's happened before and it may be happening again due to the widespread access to chads. Whether we are here because of looks or mental disorders I don't think any of us would want any potential children to inherit these traits which only led to suffering and I think a lot of women also instinctively sense this and avoid us.
You could present the argument that a few decades ago we wouldn't have been incel due to different circumstances, but evolutionarily speaking any specimen that has the capacity to adapt is superior.

yes I do. you are God's weak joke to make his intended creations more beloved

 

[shynesskills]

You clearly have no idea how evolution or natural selection works.

Well how does it wir in your interpretation?

 

[Deleted member 42848]

Do you think being an incel is just part of natural selection? For much of human history, a greater amount of women in the population reproduced relative to men. It's happened before and it may be happening again due to the widespread access to chads. Whether we are here because of looks or mental disorders I don't think any of us would want any potential children to inherit these traits which only led to suffering and I think a lot of women also instinctively sense this and avoid us.
You could present the argument that a few decades ago we wouldn't have been incel due to different circumstances, but evolutionarily speaking any specimen that has the capacity to adapt is superior.

no because niggers reproduce like dogs in eternal heat

 

[Persecuted]

Well how does it wir in your interpretation?

Natural selection is just process in which animals adapt to environment in-order to survive. It's called natural, because it occurs spontaneously in nature, regardless of animal agency. Selection is result of high mortality rate and vicious competition among species to survive, thus it's process which favours adaptability to environment. In no way it's a way to objectively evaluate and categorize some trait and genes as infirior or superior, because there are no fixed criterias as environment is constantly changing.

 

[shynesskills]

Natural selection is just process in which animals adapt to environment in-order to survive. It's called natural, because it occurs spontaneously in nature, regardless of animal agency. Selection is result of high mortality rate and vicious competition among species to survive, thus it's process which favours adaptability to environment. In no way it's a way to objectively evaluate and categorize some trait and genes as infirior or superior, because there are no fixed criterias as environment is constantly changing.

Yeah this is natural selection, but evolution is always a balance between sexual selection and natural selection, so yes you’re right if you take the thread’s name literally, incels are not a result of natural selection, but of sexual selection, which is an essential process in evolution.

 

[Persecuted]

Yeah this is natural selection, but evolution is always a balance between sexual selection and natural selection, so yes you’re right if you take the thread’s name literally, incels are not a result of natural selection, but of sexual selection, which is an essential process in evolution.

Evolution is just a mechanics that describes change in the heritable characteristics in species, natural selection is a means through which it occurs. For a thousand of years by now humans are not subjects to sexual selection, only natural selection which was caused by natural disasters, wars, high infant mortality and diseases - the last two being result of insufficiently developed medecine -, which doesn't mean much as people die all the time regardless of thier genes or traits.

Foids whoring around and sucking thousand of cocks by the time they are 30 and settle down is not essential nor beneficial. Framing it in scientific biological terms is cuck move at excusing this degenerate behaviour of muh lady . Foid's partner choices are detrimental to any eugenic program, which many of you confuse with evolution. Foids will fuck the dumbest criminal or retard as long as they are good looking.

 

[Incel called Chad]

yes its part of nature/natural selection

the difference in modern society is that while in the past you only had to be on the top 20% attractive of your tribe or village, with the internet and fast transportation and everyone being connected globally you are now competing against the whole world. if a foid is unhappy with the selection of men in her area she can select a man from somewhere else and travel for him

thats dating in 2022: you make a profile with your picture and foids scroll through selecting the men she wishes to have

 

[shynesskills]

Evolution is just a mechanics that describes change in the heritable characteristics in species, natural selection is a means through which it occurs. For a thousand of years by now humans are not subjects to sexual selection, only natural selection which was caused by natural disasters, wars, high infant mortality and diseases - the last two being result of insufficiently developed medecine -, which doesn't mean much as people die all the time regardless of thier genes or traits.

Foids whoring around and sucking thousand of cocks by the time they are 30 and settle down is not essential nor beneficial. Framing it in scientific biological terms is cuck move at excusing this degenerate behaviour of muh lady . Foid's partner choices are detrimental to any eugenic program, which many of you confuse with evolution. Foids will fuck the dumbest criminal or retard as long as they are good looking.

Dude, we haven't been subject to sexual selection, because female choice was suppressed by matrimony and monogamy, which was imposed by men aka. patriarchy...
If there was no birth control, free female choice would be the most natural form of reproduction, and if females choose looks or intelligence, that's the way to go for mankind.

 

[ionlycopenow]

Nowadays yes, because we live in a sad artificial zog world, but in the past even if you were incel you could use cunning tactics to kill chad and rape his whore.

 

[bigantennaemay1]

Yes

Yea we’re the bad weak genetics getting filtered out

 

[subhuman]

No. I don’t think we live in an environment where natural selection applies. That’s social Darwinism. Things have been artificially changed to fuck us over

 

[Persecuted]

Dude, we haven't been subject to sexual selection, because female choice was suppressed by matrimony and monogamy, which was imposed by men aka. patriarchy...
If there was no birth control, free female choice would be the most natural form of reproduction, and if females choose looks or intelligence, that's the way to go for mankind.

there is no benefit for society for giving any choice to foids whatsoever.

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

Mother selected for ASD and higher intelligence. This was a gift from the Wagoner lineage.

 

[Eunuch]

Yes, it is. Chad is Aryan, white, and confident - any gook, nigger, curry, or ugly white guy will never be able to compete for a foid's attention with chad.

chad is chad regardless of race tbch

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

Mother selected for ASD and higher intelligence. This was a gift from the Wagoner lineage.

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Great-Grandma gave me Tostinos pizza rolls and let me use her large mobile chair for the stairs.

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[turbosperg]

Yes.
In the wild, most animal males don't succeed in mating.

In fact, monogamy was invented only so that most men would have access to sex and thus contribute to society. Absent normative monogamy, the "natural state" that humans tend to gravitate towards is one in which all foids get inseminated by chads, which in turn enslave all the non-Chad males, either by force or by deception (enticing the non-Chads to betabux Chad's leftovers) but most commonly by both (state-enforced cuckoldry - pay your taxes to single moms or else).

 

[Autismus Maximus]

Yea we’re the bad weak genetics getting filtered out

2 (independent) problems with this:

1) If Inceldom was caused by defective genes and not an unlucky combination of functional genes + bad gene expression (environment), Inceldom would have been bred out of humanity long ago, or Incels would be an infinitesimal, shrinking part of humanity and not a growing phenomenon.

2) Foids select their mates, but they don't select their own genes. Given the chance, a 5 foot 1/10 foid will happily breed with a 10/10 Gigachad with zero thought to her own shitty genes and how her offspring is going to suffer because of it.

If natural selection was the cause of Inceldom, we'd be seeing about as many foidcels as Incels, but the reality is that there are no foid Incels.

The mouse utopia explanation of Inceldom is much more likely: As an Empire gets old, it becomes decadent, and during this decay a shrinking amount of people hoard all the fun and descent into hedonism, eventually turning into nothing more than beasts only living to satisfy their base urges, while the rest suffers more and more, and finally there is the beautiful ones, those that withdraw from the horrors of soyciety. That's us.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Yes