Discussion Is American Society on the brink of collapse?

[UnknownR]

it will collapse due to low birth rates and too many niggars

 

[UnknownR]

Its literally already collapsed.

 

[universallyabhorred]

You seem very optimistic and I assume that you are black/hispanic. Crime peaked and declined in the 90s because blacks and browns were being incarcerated on a mass scale.

I am a curry. Do you have evidence for this claim? There are many different causes which are blamed for the crime epidemic including exposure to lead.

With criminal justice reform in the recent years, look what has happened in that short time frame. Mass chaos.

I think criminal justice reform is greatly exaggerated and it has dramatically increased only certain crimes like theft. If you believe someone who's poor should be punished by being denied basic necessities because of the fact their job doesn't pay enough to survive, that's terrible.

Black and browns have much lower average IQs and are high testosterone/prone to crime. No one wants to live or be around them because people know what they're all about.

I have looked at the stats, even spent time lurking on racist forums like Stormfront, the differences aren't particularly dramatic and greatly exaggerated. Also, policing specifically black and brown neighborhoods leads to increased capture of black and brown people leading to inflated crime statistics. I think the danger of living in a Black or brown neighborhood is greatly exaggerated.

Whites still have the numbers at the current moment to uphold society and keep blacks/browns in check. For now. Currently, it seems like black and brown communities in America can still hold their own. But that is because Whites are the lifeline of blacks and browns and take on the position of a micro-managing supervisor to blacks/browns. Whites see blacks and browns as their responsibility and their burden. But the truth is that whites have their own serious issues with low birth rates/white female hypergamy. In a few decades, America will literally be a black and brown shithole. Because these Whites, won't even be able to save themselves.

You act as if all browns and blacks are incompetent welfare leeches that don't uphold society in any way. I have seen many ethnic supervisors and they all do fine. The only place where Whites excel is high skill jobs which there are a minority of anyway. The majority of jobs are low or medium skill and people of all races can do them to an acceptable degree. I don't believe this is true, it's a paternalistic way of looking at things and mostly untrue in the modern world we live in. Even if America becomes full of black and brown people, it will not necessarily collapse, the system we have in place ensures that we don't need a large amount of intelligent people for society to function. Majority of jobs are repetitive and process-oriented and keep in mind there are intelligent black and brown people as well.

As a matter of fact, it is a shithole in a lot of places already.

America has declined but calling a majority of places a shithole is an exaggeration. I understand you like coping with collapse because you are an incel and excluded from dating, sex, friendships and relationships. But unfortunately things are nowhere near as bad as you believe them to be for the majority of people, including Asian men in the Bay Area.

 

[starcrapoo]

I am a curry. Do you have evidence for this claim? There are many different causes which are blamed for the crime epidemic including exposure to lead.

I think criminal justice reform is greatly exaggerated and it has dramatically increased only certain crimes like theft. If you believe someone who's poor should be punished by being denied basic necessities because of the fact their job doesn't pay enough to survive, that's terrible.


I have looked at the stats, even spent time lurking on racist forums like Stormfront, the differences aren't particularly dramatic and greatly exaggerated. Also, policing specifically black and brown neighborhoods leads to increased capture of black and brown people leading to inflated crime statistics. I think the danger of living in a Black or brown neighborhood is greatly exaggerated.

You act as if all browns and blacks are incompetent welfare leeches that don't uphold society in any way. I have seen many ethnic supervisors and they all do fine. The only place where Whites excel is high skill jobs which there are a minority of anyway. The majority of jobs are low or medium skill and people of all races can do them to an acceptable degree. I don't believe this is true, it's a paternalistic way of looking at things and mostly untrue in the modern world we live in. Even if America becomes full of black and brown people, it will not necessarily collapse, the system we have in place ensures that we don't need a large amount of intelligent people for society to function. Majority of jobs are repetitive and process-oriented and keep in mind there are intelligent black and brown people as well.

America has declined but calling a majority of places a shithole is an exaggeration. I understand you like coping with collapse because you are an incel and excluded from dating, sex, friendships and relationships. But unfortunately things are nowhere near as bad as you believe them to be for the majority of people, including Asian men in the Bay Area.

Blacks and Browns in America have an average IQ of 85 give or take. That is one standard deviation above a white or asian person that is officially classified as mentally retarded. And one standard deviation below an average white or east asian individual of average intelligence. They are smack in the middle between a retard and a normie basically as far as intelligence.

Black and brown communities, societies, and nations are all collapsed societies relative to East Asian/White countries.

To you, black and brown societies are bearable and doesn't seem collapsed. But to me, those are all collapsed/failed/weak states with rampant crime, corruption, ineptitude, and incompetence.

You guys think the potholes, crime, drugs, incompetence of government to deliver basic services is bad now, just wait 30 - 40 years from now. Blacks and browns taking on government positions and police jobs can only mean two things and that is corruption and incompetence.

All of this is in addition with white mainstream society having their serious major issues with feminism, LGBTQ identity politics, low birth rates, mass inceldom, opoid drug epidemic, young men abandoning the work force enmasse, white men intermarrying enmasse causing future malaise, identity issues, and low trust of their biracial offspring.

We are heading into the abyss absolutely no doubt about it. You can try to critique it and try to find ways around it all you want. America is already collapsed and only gonna get worst and worst from here on out.

 

[Immolator]

Lehman Brothers Crippled themselves and the Real Estate market along with Wall St in 2008 and that still wasn't enough to collapse.

 

[universallyabhorred]

Blacks and Browns in America have an average IQ of 85 give or take. That is one standard deviation above a white or asian person that is officially classified as mentally retarded. And one standard deviation below an average white or east asian individual of average intelligence. They are smack in the middle between a retard and a normie basically as far as intelligence.

Black and brown communities, societies, and nations are all collapsed societies relative to East Asian/White countries.

To you, black and brown societies are bearable and doesn't seem collapsed. But to me, those are all collapsed/failed/weak states with rampant crime, corruption, ineptitude, and incompetence.

You guys think the potholes, crime, drugs, incompetence of government to deliver basic services is bad now, just wait 30 - 40 years from now. Blacks and browns taking on government positions and police jobs can only mean two things and that is corruption and incompetence.

All of this is in addition with white mainstream society having their serious major issues with feminism, LGBTQ identity politics, low birth rates, mass inceldom, opoid drug epidemic, young men abandoning the work force enmasse, white men intermarrying enmasse causing future malaise, identity issues, and low trust of their biracial offspring.

We are heading into the abyss absolutely no doubt about it. You can try to critique it and try to find ways around it all you want. America is already collapsed and only gonna get worst and worst from here on out.

I am aware of racial differences in intelligence, but I don't believe it has profound effects on their ability to contribute to society outside of high skill jobs which are unlikely to have many browns and blacks in them.

Yes, but there are multiple reasons for this to claim it's solely a result of average IQ is fallacious.

I never said that they are as developed as western/east asian societies. But they also underwent colonialism and extreme exploitation. It's worth noting that middle eastern and south asian societies used to be more powerful than White societies before the industrial revolution.

I think it's oversimplification to claim this would be the sole cause of governmental failure. However, I will admit America is declining but to blame it solely on race is wrong.

I think I already covered why this is mostly exaggeration and coping on your part.

There's no doubt that collapse will happen at some point, but to claim it has already collapsed or will collapse soon is an exaggeration.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Lehman Brothers Crippled themselves and the Real Estate market along with Wall St in 2008 and that still wasn't enough to collapse.

Only because China financially bailed out the United States in 2008, next time around there will be no future bailouts or life rafts. Sink or swim, this nation instead will sink next time around.

 

[Doctor Eggman]

Now that we have an abundance of information that indicates differences in intelligence are a result of genetic variation, what are your thoughts on genetic engineering selecting for intelligence genes that are conducive for operating a functioning society and navigating everyday problems in life? Wouldn't it level level the playing field between blacks and whites?

I don't think this would work, or be allowed to happen. The world runs on the backs of the exploited. If those people suddenly become smart, the whole system could be shaken. Many people would like that, but the rich and the government would not, and they run this whole show

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

You've been coping too much mate, come back to the real world

I am wayy too realistic for You

 

[Anxiety-]

Lehman Brothers Crippled themselves and the Real Estate market along with Wall St in 2008 and that still wasn't enough to collapse.

Gordon Brown saved the whole fiasco.

 

[Scerus]

You're entitled to your opinion.

My opinion is that America is already collapsed and is rapidly declining by the day. In 30- 40 years time, imagine every city being like Detroit. Cities will be in debt failing left and right with no clean running water. Currently, there is massive social and moral decline. Mass inceldom, mass single motherhood. Opoid drug epidemic. Crime is rampant and getting worst. Low birth rates (native white population). Mass illegal immigration. Masses of young American men not even participating in the work force (and will only get worst due to automation).

There are already places in America where sane people will never dare to go. Were talking about high crime inner city areas all over this country. In 30 - 40 years time, that will be the norm. The suburbs won't even be safe. Whites will move further inland into mountainous gated and self sufficient communities.

It will be just like Brazil and South Africa. Frightened minority of whites and asians living in their gated armed communities far away in the hills while the masses of blacks and browns literally kill themselves for crumbs. Corruption in politics, the justice system, and police force will be widespread. Because there simply aren't enough whites to uphold or enforce the standards.

GDP and the stock market reveals how the upper middle class to upper class are doing. Not the masses of people.

I imagine every city might well end up looking like that part of Philadelphia where people are basically zombified thanks to drugs. The ultra wealthy class will live in their walled cities with an idyllic 1950's feel while the rest of society suffers.