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Hypocrisy Iqpill is the GREYEST thing ever

Online IQ tests are not real. You need to sit down with a registered psychiatrist and take the WAIS IQ test. You are much better off being ugly and high IQ than being ugly and low IQ. If you had a high IQ you would know this. The median IQ of a PHD in STEM is 125, half are lower than that. Your family physician likely has a lower IQ than 130. Men vastly overestimate their IQ.

It gives you an SMV advantage because you can turn high IQ into status and money.

It's much better to be high IQ than low IQ and ugly.
I agree for online tests, but yet again you keep talking on possibilities and not on direct value when if comes to having an high IQ, also society isn't that linear at all and it's way more unfair than you think, of course given my same apparence I would want to keep my current IQ instead of a lower one, but the immediate connection you keep doing between high IQ and how it's easy to get statumaxxed and rich is extremely childish.

First off getting rich or statusmaxxed is a lot about luck and opportunities, having an high IQ could help to achieve that? Yes, but it's secondary, solely the IQ doesn't increase the SMV, and neither trying and failing does, it ain't as direct as you think, there are a lot, but a lot of rich and statusmaxxed people who either gained such from their family when they were born or because of luck or even their appearance, having an high IQ is not directly connected to that, it itself depends on luck and the possibilities you get.
 
IQ is extremely overrated. You will do perfectly fine with an average or slightly below average IQ, in fact having a higher IQ corelates with higher sexlessness
Alright then we agree
 
Men vastly overestimate their IQ because of ego and the Dunning-Kruger effect. A 130 IQ puts you in the top 2% of intelligence. Online IQ tests are not real. They are designed to overinflate scores so they can make money. You need to take a real in-person IQ test by a registered psychiatrist. Tests in childhood often don't translate into adult results because the brain is more plastic when you are a kid.

With an IQ as high as OP claims it is impossible to fail economically. There are so many ways to make money off a high IQ now that you cannot fail. Freelance coding or software development would be easy. The average IQ of a PHD stem graduate is lower than 130.

You are not as high IQ as you think you are.
The correlation between intelligence and life success is around 0.5, but OP claims he studied in high school and still struggled. It’s not like the difficulty drastically increases when you enter high school, so either OP’s brain developed much earlier than others, or he went to a shit elementary/middle school and went to a decent high school.
 
I agree for online tests, but yet again you keep talking on possibilities and not on direct value when if comes to having an high IQ, also society isn't that linear at all and it's way more unfair than you think, of course given my same apparence I would want to keep my current IQ instead of a lower one, but the immediate connection you keep doing between high IQ and how it's easy to get statumaxxed and rich is extremely childish.

First off getting rich or statusmaxxed is a lot about luck and opportunities, having an high IQ could help to achieve that? Yes, but it's secondary, solely the IQ doesn't increase the SMV, and neither trying and failing does, it ain't as direct as you think, there are a lot, but a lot of rich and statusmaxxed people who either gained such from their family when they were born or because of luck or even their appearance, having an high IQ is not directly connected to that, it itself depends on luck and the possibilities you get.
It is really easy to statusmaxx and moneymaxx in a modern knowledge economy with a high IQ. It depends how high your IQ is but 130 is more than enough to achieve something. You won't be Elon Musk but you should be well above average. 130 or near it is the same as PHD graduates in highly skilled professions. Doctors are usually sub 130.

Intelletigence alone is still attractive for evolutionary reasons. Intelligent people are good at climbing status hierarchies, accumulating resources, fitting in, raising children better, and being charismatic. Women are attracted to IQ alone without any other factors. It's always a positive in dating.
 
Agreed. 90iq normies are out there slaying and that’s all that matters. It’s all looks
 
The correlation between intelligence and life success is around 0.5, but OP claims he studied in high school and still struggled. It’s not like the difficulty drastically increases when you enter high school, so either OP’s brain developed much earlier than others, or he went to a shit elementary/middle school and went to a decent high school.
That's because of age and the inflated housing market. The best predictor of wealth is being a boomer who bought a house in the 1990s. The correlation is much stronger when you are focusing on people near 130 IQ and are only comparing them to their peers. The correlation is weaker for people in the middle with 95-110.
 
The correlation between intelligence and life success is around 0.5, but OP claims he studied in high school and still struggled. It’s not like the difficulty drastically increases when you enter high school, so either OP’s brain developed much earlier than others, or he went to a shit elementary/middle school and went to a decent high school.
I didn't "struggled" I was just lazy and had other interest aside of studying mostly useless stuff in school, people who where on the top of the class literally studied all day or for two subject especially they were way better than me, honestly if I had a different teacher (he "taught" those two subjects) maybe I would have been good at that too, that scumfag made me hate his subjects due to his behavior that I don't even know how to properly insult, both my elementary and high school weren't easy at all, maybe middle school was a bit laid back, still doesn't change much in the overall picture.
 
That's because of age and the inflated housing market. The best predictor of wealth is being a boomer who bought a house in the 1990s.
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Intelletigence alone is still attractive for evolutionary reasons. Intelligent people are good at climbing status hierarchies, accumulating resources, fitting in, raising children better, and being charismatic. Women are attracted to IQ alone without any other factors. It's always a positive in dating.
High IQ is not always related to doing good in social settings at all, go read some studies on high IQ people and being withdrawn and socially awkward, along side being excluded and being found weird.
And for the foids being attracted to SOLELY the IQ alone, that is a LIE, maybe in the past it had some truth, nowdays it's not true anymore AT ALL, there are literally studies that show that high IQ men struggle to find a partner, and also all today's garbage culture that mass brainwashes foids doesn't involve around intelligence and depth in any way but around being loud, aggressive and manipulation.

SOLELY IQ DOESN'T INCREASE SMV
 
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High IQ is a good thing to have but in all honestly it's inconsequential in dating.
 
High IQ is not always related to doing good in social settings at all, go read some studies on high IQ people and being withdrawn and socially awkward, along side being excluded and being found weird.
And for the foids being attracted to SOLELY the IQ alone, that is a LIE, maybe in the past it had some truth, nowdays it's not true anymore AT ALL, there are literally studies that show that high IQ men struggle to find a partner, and also all today's garbage culture doesn't involve around intelligence and depth but around being loud, aggressive and manipulation.

SOLELY IQ DOESN'T INCREASE SMV
High-IQ people have a slower life history strategy. They hit puberty later, have kids later, and are better at suppressing their instincts. High-IQ people associate within their social class with other intelligent people. They will have less to talk about when you pair them with an unintelligent person who will have different interests.

There is a correlation between IQ and social competence.

Intelligence is attractive but I never said foids will throw themselves at you if you have nothing else to offer. Women find intelligence attractive but you need more than that to actually slay.

You have to be able to turn your intelligence into status and money. That is the ultimate test that it is real and useful for foids.
 
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Higher IQ leads more likely to virginity than lower IQ, due to lower IQ correlating with fast lifestyle and high IQ correlating with slow lifestyle. Also higher IQ correlates more with social anxiety, neuroticism, interest in more abstract topics that don't have mainstream appeal like philosophy, STEM, etc.


As with the other study there was a curvilinear relationship: students with IQs above 100 and below 70 were significantly less likely to have had intercourse than those in between. Also like the other study, they found teens with IQs ranging from 75 to 90 had the lowest probability of virginity (the authors note this is also the same IQ range where propensity towards crime peaks).

Depending on the specific age and gender, an adolescent with an IQ of 100 was 1.5 to 5 times more likely to have had intercourse than a teen with a score of 120 or 130. Each additional point of IQ increased the odds of virginity by 2.7% for males and 1.7% for females. But higher IQ had a similar relationship across the entire range of romantic/sexual interactions, decreasing the odds that teens had ever kissed or even held hands with a member of the opposite sex at each age.
Its actually pretty safe to conclude that having higher IQ than average means higher likelihood of being a virgin.

Another study with 12,000 sample size:


Conclusions: Higher intelligence operates as a protective factor against early sexual activity during adolescence, and lower intelligence, to a point, is a risk factor. More systematic investigation of the implications of individual differences in cognitive abilities for sexual activities and of the processes that underlie those activities is warranted.
The first study pretty much proved that being lower IQ than average is better for your sexual and relationship success than being higher IQ. This isn't up to interpretation, its the truth. There's a reason why the trope of nerds in school being virgins exists, and its because its true.

Teens with IQs ranging from 75 to 90 had the lowest probability of virginity.
 
I'm high IQ (~140 verbal IQ, overall ~130 according to the CAIT test and my SAT scores, also 140 in 7th grade on Otis Lennon test, not bragging just stating facts) and I've always sucked at making money. Low or mid paying job, investments, etc. Money doesn't come easily for me.
I'm high IQ (140 verbal IQ) but have always been terrible at talking and socializing. I can't think of things to say. I know a lot about words but I can't speak them very well :feelshaha: .
You likely have issues separate to your IQ that causes detriments in your social/money making ability. That doesn't disprove that IQ generally tends to be beneficial in both of these regards.
 
The irony of clav saying that :lul:. Nigga validates the idea that being dumb and attractive is better than being smart and ugly
Higher IQ leads more likely to virginity than lower IQ, due to lower IQ correlating with fast lifestyle and high IQ correlating with slow lifestyle. Also higher IQ correlates more with social anxiety, neuroticism, interest in more abstract topics that don't have mainstream appeal like philosophy, STEM, etc.



Its actually pretty safe to conclude that having higher IQ than average means higher likelihood of being a virgin.

Another study with 12,000 sample size:



The first study pretty much proved that being lower IQ than average is better for your sexual and relationship success than being higher IQ. This isn't up to interpretation, its the truth. There's a reason why the trope of nerds in school being virgins exists, and its because its true.

Teens with IQs ranging from 75 to 90 had the lowest probability of virginity.
Nice post, blackpill science worthy. Jfl at this from the ncbi study: "Higher intelligence operates as a protective factor against early sexual activity during adolescence,"
 
u bring up ur iq for basically no reason

is that sum bragging i hear?
 
but still if i had to talk about it one thing i can name off the bat is that i've never understood "evidence", cuz evidence doesn't speak for logic it speaks for itself. if i make a claim about internal consistency you can't just disprove it by going "but sometimes these red dots are blue", you have to prove why those red dots are actually mostly blue. i think this is why i've always felt misunderstood by normies, because they dont want to ask questions they cant answer, they're comfortable believing renee goods getting shot was a "horrible crime" when it was really just a natural consequence of retarded leftist ideologies
 
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u bring up ur iq for basically no reason

is that sum bragging i hear?
Did you even read what I wrote? Are you actually retarded? I literally said it because I wanted to talk about my life experience, I literally specified that I wasn't bragging, I am not a genius at all.
 
but still if i had to talk about it one thing i can name off the bat is that i've never understood "evidence", cuz evidence doesn't speak for logic it speaks for itself. if i make a claim about internal consistency you can't just disprove it by going "but sometimes these red dots are blue", you have to prove why those red dots are actually mostly blue. i think this is why i've always felt misunderstood by normies, because they dont want to ask questions they cant answer, they're comfortable believing renee goods getting shot was a "horrible crime" when it was really just a natural consequence of retarded leftist ideologies
I don't understand what you're trying to say there
 
Higher IQ leads more likely to virginity than lower IQ, due to lower IQ correlating with fast lifestyle and high IQ correlating with slow lifestyle. Also higher IQ correlates more with social anxiety, neuroticism, interest in more abstract topics that don't have mainstream appeal like philosophy, STEM, etc.



Its actually pretty safe to conclude that having higher IQ than average means higher likelihood of being a virgin.

Another study with 12,000 sample size:



The first study pretty much proved that being lower IQ than average is better for your sexual and relationship success than being higher IQ. This isn't up to interpretation, its the truth. There's a reason why the trope of nerds in school being virgins exists, and its because its true.

Teens with IQs ranging from 75 to 90 had the lowest probability of virginity.
Thank you for providing actual studies, I simply used my logic, experience and studies I read before even if I didn't link them here directly, but it's always good to hear more studies that confirm my point.
 
You have to be able to turn your intelligence into status and money. That is the ultimate test that it is real and useful for foids.
Yeah, like I said in many responses, high IQ could be a starting point in some cases, but without luck and possibilities you won't be able to turn that into status and money either way, your change might be a little higher than an average IQ person, but still low overall.
 
I don't understand what you're trying to say there
normies dont think about logical principles outside of themselves, if i talk about a character in a story i can ask why he didnt make x decision as much as i want, but that would miss the point of why the writer chose to write it that way to begin with. no leftist wants to admit their ideology is wrong, so they paint contradictions to their logic as the "oppression" that helps their cause
 
Did you even read what I wrote? Are you actually retarded? I literally said it because I wanted to talk about my life experience, I literally specified that I wasn't bragging, I am not a genius at all.
it wouldnt be bragging if u didnt talk about it not being bragging lol
 
If iq was everything, the reality we see wouldn't be unintelligent men statistically reproducing more than highly intelligent men.
 
normies dont think about logical principles outside of themselves, if i talk about a character in a story i can ask why he didnt make x decision as much as i want, but that would miss the point of why the writer chose to write it that way to begin with. no leftist wants to admit their ideology is wrong, so they paint contradictions to their logic as the "oppression" that helps their cause
Neither a leftist or a right-wing person wants to admit their ideology is wrong, modern politicians are all a bunch of hypocrites.
 
I didn't make this post to brag about my IQ, first because I am just above average and not some kind of genius and also because that would be cringe, but I wanted to talk about how much this IQPILL is all a big braindead logic that is actually supported by average or mostly below average IQ normies who believe their foid got with them because of their intelligence, just shut the fuck up already.
@AutismHaver read it again.
 
If iq was everything, the reality we see wouldn't be unintelligent men statistically reproducing more than highly intelligent men.
Yeah, that's right too
 
Neither a leftist or a right-wing person wants to admit their ideology is wrong, modern politicians are all a bunch of hypocrites.
yeah well what i mean is logically they would understand they're wrong, but they're midwits that dont even understand what contradicting information is
 
yeah well what i mean is logically they would understand they're wrong, but they're midwits that dont even understand what contradicting information is
Only weak minded people can't admit when they're wrong btw.
 
Yeah, like I said in many responses, high IQ could be a starting point in some cases, but without luck and possibilities you won't be able to turn that into status and money either way, your change might be a little higher than an average IQ person, but still low overall.
You will. It depends how wealthy and high status we are talking here but if your IQ is high enough you should be able to get a high skill job. 130 would be enough.
 
You will. It depends how wealthy and high status we are talking here but if your IQ is high enough you should be able to get a high skill job. 130 would be enough.
Literally living for working mindset of yours.
 
As I said again, whatever your IQ is, if you don't even have possibilities you can't do nothing regardless.
You will have possibilities in the job market if your IQ is very high. You can make six figures from home if your IQ is high enough.
 
The smarter you are, the better you realize how fucked up this world is.

Don't underestimate your intelligence brocels, if you're blackpilled, you're clever than most normies. :feelsokman:
 
Do not worry about it, mangs :feelsokman:

IQ is cope. Women do not care about IQ or intelligence. Job recruiters (who are also foids) do not care about intelligence either, our planet is not a meritocracy.

IQ will not help you in any way.

The only thing that truly matters is not being ugly.
 
You will have possibilities in the job market if your IQ is very high. You can make six figures from home if your IQ is high enough.
Braindead mentality, it depends on where you live, the people you know and your luck
 
Braindead mentality, it depends on where you live, the people you know and your luck
This is only true for people in the normie range. 90-115. If you have an IQ of 160 your cognitive abilities will be too in demand in a modern labour market to fail. The same is true for 130 but you would have to put some work in.
 
This is only true for people in the normie range. 90-115. If you have an IQ of 160 your cognitive abilities will be too in demand in a modern labour market to fail. The same is true for 130 but you would have to put some work in.
Most people don't even know their IQ, and you don't go around with your IQ written on your forehead
 
Most people don't even know their IQ, and you don't go around with your IQ written on your forehead
That has nothing to do with what I said. If your IQ is really high like 160 it is impossible to fail in the job market unless you don't try at all. At 130 you would have to put some effort in education but considering your IQ mogs 98% of the population, you will end up with a decent job.
 
That has nothing to do with what I said. If your IQ is really high like 160 it is impossible to fail in the job market unless you don't try at all. At 130 you would have to put some effort in education but considering your IQ mogs 98% of the population, you will end up with a decent job.
Even if I have a decent job that has nothing to do with smv, having a nice job is not statusmaxx and most nice jobs don't even make you rich (I don't even care about being rich).
 
Even if I have a decent job that has nothing to do with smv, having a nice job is not statusmaxx and most nice jobs don't even make you rich (I don't even care about being rich).
Your job is part of status and money which affects SMV, especially as you get older and foids care more about it.
 
Your job is part of status and money which affects SMV, especially as you get older and foids care more about it.
the difference is minimal either way, if you're short, ugly and framcel like me it's not enough at all.
 
the difference is minimal either way, if you're short, ugly and framcel like me it's not enough at all.
It definitely helps but I never claimed anywhere in this thread that you can still ascend with IQ if everything else about you is a disaster. IQ in and of itself is attractive to foids because of what it implies you can do (climb status hierarchies).

You can attract gold diggers if you make a lot of money and are very high status, but that isn't ascension.
 
because of what it implies you can do (climb status hierarchies)
No, it's only attractive when you have already reached insane goals or results, not because of (like I said it CAN be easier but it's not guarantee at all to reach a high status with high IQ) , they could be attracted by your status if it's really high, they don't give a fuck about your IQ either way.
 
No, it's only attractive when you have already reached insane goals or results, not because of (like I said it CAN be easier but it's not guarantee at all to reach a high status with high IQ) , they could be attracted by your status if it's really high, they don't give a fuck about your IQ either way.
No foids are attracted to intelligence because it correlates with competence and they want to pass that down to their offspring. If you had two equally attractive men but one guy was much more intelligent. Foids will pick the intelligent guy every single time.
 
Nigga postmaxed over a month and a half and is now turning on all Greys

#SaveTheGreys
 

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