[Whitepill] Introducing cultmaxxing. In other words, if you cant beat the game, create your own. Dont be simply better than the competition. Be different from it.

[Lookslikeit]

Bro, i've been ruminating about the blackpill a lot.

How its clearly becoming a dead end that creates more misery than it solves, how no one on this site seems to have a clue (or even wants to do it, apparently) on how to solve it, just repeating old slogans like "its over, never began" bullshit.

So i created this prototype of an idea.

Cultmaxxing. Now, im not saying to go helter skelter all over the place, although i WILL derive clear inspiration from IRL cults.

Think it, bros. Have you ever seen an official, large scale cult that was leaded by a bonified chad like figure? No, cause they dont fucking exist.

Chads usually end at having harems, but thats about it.

We already know what chads offer, and that we cant compete on that avenue whatsoever.

What im saying is, we have to create A NEW ONE. With NEW expectations, NEW paradigms, NEW possibilities.

Cults offer something different from ALL other avenues of life. A direct way of targeting problems and some seamless, easy flowing solutions to extremely complex problems.

Think the mormons, for an instance. They fuck like rabbits and reproduce like crazy. I heard theres a lot of cheating too, so u dont even have to be loyal to a tee, if u dont want to.

Look, im not saying "just be mormon" bro. What im saying is we need to create a collective movement that superseeds this circular reasoning that permeates the blackpill, which is getting tiresome and stale already.

 

[Lookslikeit]

Can i get a pin, please?

 

[tired as fuck]

The problem of the blackpill in the phenomenal reality is that it devolves into a cult, and you wanna create another cult? Other than that, I agree

 

[Lookslikeit]

WE need to forget that LMS paradigm, and create each one of us, an idiossyncratic pill of sorts. Each one of us has a hidden talent no one cam copy, and we need to find that shit quick. Amd it needs to be original. Just another avenue.

 

[Lookslikeit]

The problem of the blackpill in the phenomenal reality is that it devolves into a cult, and you wanna create another cult? Other than that, I agree

Society is a cult, bro. Money is a cult, fashion is a cult, trends are a cult, even language and dressing yourself can be considered a cult. Cults dont need to be necessarily bad and malicious.

 

[She Does Not Exist]

Let's call our cult iFAP, Incels for all purposes.

Nah man, Mormonism or just Moronism works because there is the promise of healing behind it, you need to promise something to your followers or your Incels in the round table, the desire to go on is not there if there is no light in the end of the tunnel.

I know IRL Incels who are coping through religionmaxxing, that with enough praying a 'decent girl' will show, and since your cult will be around Inceldom you can't promise that because Inceldom is the exact opposite of what women are looking for.

Yes, we aren't talking about women, we are talking about building a community, but Incels aren't the most 'united' fellas in the world, spiritual shit ain't enough for a cult, you NEED something for men to desire joining it, in religion is to either find a partner or maintaing a unstable relationship aka avoid divorce, in paganism is the same shit, in voodoo is to do ill, in Wicca is just fat bitches mad they didn't score Chad or got dumped by Chad, and many, many cults that are able to gather some members.

The reason Blackpill works is that is the LAST stop for a man after he found out nothing will work for him, Blackpill is acceptance, understanding where you stand and why things are, is closure which is the only thing Incels need, closure.

 

[Lookslikeit]

Blackpill is acceptance, understanding where you stand and why things are, is closure which is the only thing Incels need, closure.

I get it. We all got it. BUT, there needs to be more complex ways of advancing our needs, in a more satisfying, wholesome way.

We cant be chuds for all our lifes. Its clearly not sustainable, amd it already made too many victims in our ranks...

 

[Lookslikeit]

spiritual shit ain't enough for a cult, you NEED something for men to desire joining it,

Maybe a gang + cult type of organization? The gang part to add an edgy, rebelious tinge to it, and the cult part to make it sustainable in the long run?

 

[Animecel2D]

Ok let’s create a blackpill cult

 

[Gen.SchizoAfricanus]

Incels aren't the most 'united' fellas in the world

The reason Blackpill works is that is the LAST stop for a man after he found out nothing will work for him, Blackpill is acceptance, understanding where you stand and why things are, is closure which is the only thing Incels need, closure.

Until we solve the problem of uniting a politically an ethnically diverse group of men , we won't have unity or organization. We need to establish Inceldom an the Black Pill as A-Political Philosophy.

 

[Gen.SchizoAfricanus]

Maybe a gang + cult type of organization? The gang part to add an edgy, rebelious tinge to it, and the cult part to make it sustainable in the long run?

This is not a bad idea especially since it is one of the only ways to develop a high trust enviroment, We are currently targets for feds an normies. We could also generate revenue this way for the orgnization , Maybe the "gang" can just be one compartmentalized aspect of a greater asymmetrical decentralized secret network.

 

[Lookslikeit]

Ok let’s create a blackpill cult

Let's call it "The Block Zero Kelvins" or something JFL (zero kelvin is the most cold temperarure, and the block to establish a gang mentality)

 

[Gen.SchizoAfricanus]

We firstly would need a new base cyber base of operation since masters has been compromised, Don't expect all the trucels to move to this place this would be limited participation to screen fedds, trannys an foids

 

[She Does Not Exist]

I get it. We all got it. BUT, there needs to be more complex ways of advancing our needs, in a more satisfying, wholesome way.

We cant be chuds for all our lifes. Its clearly not sustainable, amd it already made too many victims in our ranks...

The only alternative to Chud is Slavewaging and lying to yourself that you are in fact contributing to society, that you are changing it.

You don't necessarily need a cult, you just need a goal, a solid goal, besides that an organizer and a hypeman plus heavy moderation, so is not something you can do overnight lol.

Moderation is necessary so no agitators can fuck things up, a goal is necessary to define what the group is about, a hypeman is necessary to get people who want to contribute to the goal to join your group, an orgaziner is necessary for events so things don't get boring and stale.

I know this is all a joke but this is how movements are formed lol, but really, organization and motivation ain't Incel traits.

 

[cursed]

Maybe a gang

uniting a politically an ethnically diverse group of men

We are currently targets for feds an normies. We could also generate revenue this way for the orgnization , Maybe the "gang" can just be one compartmentalized aspect of a greater asymmetrical decentralized secret network.

We firstly would need a new base cyber base of operation since masters has been compromised, Don't expect all the trucels to move to this place this would be limited participation to screen fedds, trannys an foids

the above is the most fed coded thing to say. It works short term usually it's a honeypot that a fed would the first to suggest

>screen fedds, trannys an foids
How would you do that? doxxing yourself ? giving away your identity so a fed can put in a database?
being out in the public as .is is actually the best thing possible it weeds out all possible spergs and the 3 Fs foids, feds and faggots. a limited hangout once one person gets angry at some bullshit will either report to the fed, post it publicly like a faggot, leak stuff.

The fact you don't trust anyone won't get you comfortable just sharing whatever personal shit you want which is a great thing. you keep the press of your necks and keep rumors nonexistent.

look at ANOM the base guys and how they got infiltrated and framed by the fed. Maybe you are doing something peaceful and feds show up to stir shit up trying to goat you into doing some sperg shit

not good for opsec in general not good for optics. Generally a bad idea.

 

[Gen.SchizoAfricanus]

The only alternative to Chud is Slavewaging and lying to yourself that you are in fact contributing to society, that you are changing it.

You don't necessarily need a cult, you just need a goal, a solid goal, besides that an organizer and a hypeman plus heavy moderation, so is not something you can do overnight lol.

Moderation is necessary so no agitators can fuck things up, a goal is necessary to define what the group is about, a hypeman is necessary to get people who want to contribute to the goal to join your group, an orgaziner is necessary for events so things don't get boring and stale.

I know this is all a joke but this is how movements are formed lol, but really, organization and motivation ain't Incel traits.

If incels united politically, i bet we could rub enough braincells together to compete with the radical femenist foids , unfortunately they have the backin of the feds an glowies. I only mean if we're talking strictly normie mode unity, for no body wants to risk their skin, maybe it could be like a lower entry level to the cult/organization.

 

[PhineasSpear]

Hypothetically speaking, you would need a book to highlight your ideas and promote this cult.

 

[She Does Not Exist]

If incels united politically, i bet we could rub enough braincells together to compete with the radical femenist foids , unfortunately they have the backin of the feds an glowies. I only mean if we're talking strictly normie mode unity, for no body wants to risk their skin, maybe it could be like a lower entry level to the cult/organization.

Nope, that one faggot who tried to pull some cult, what's his name? the dude with the tik torches who took a wrench to his jaw then vanished.

Any and all cult founded by an Incel would be nuked from Orbit in the first day, plus imagine all the jokes related to smell if you manage to put more than 10 incels on the same room.

Hypothetically speaking, you would need a book to highlight your ideas and promote this cult.

Not a bad idea, keep everything recorded, if possible make as many backups as possible, and if you are making a discord server give privilege to just one mod, for safety, you know...

 

[Gen.SchizoAfricanus]

Hypothetically speaking, you would need a book to highlight your ideas and promote this cult.

A Black Pill Manifesto that highlights the harsh reality an truths about this world. How men an specifically incel men have been the quietly ignored an oppressed group for centuries. I used to read an occasionally write fiction but now i'm a burnt out autist with the attention span of a fish , maybe i could churn out a essay in efforts towards a group project if anyone is interested.

 

[PhineasSpear]

Not a bad idea, keep everything recorded, if possible make as many backups as possible, and if you are making a discord server give privilege to just one mod, for safety, you know...

You can also create a newsletter which would send blackpill content to those who subscribe to it. That's actually how people use to promote their ideas other than the aforementioned book writing before television and digital media came along.

A Black Pill Manifesto that highlights the harsh reality an truths about this world. How men an specifically incel men have been the quietly ignored an oppressed group for centuries. I used to read an occasionally write fiction but now i'm a burnt out autist with the attention span of a fish , maybe i could churn out a essay in efforts towards a group project if anyone is interested.

Now as I think about it, I really don't think that has even been a blackpill-esque manifesto/polemic that has even been published other than Ted Kaczynski or Schopenhauer. I reckon it would be unique enough to be atleast initially popular.

 

[Gen.SchizoAfricanus]

Any and all cult founded by an Incel would be nuked from Orbit in the first day, plus imagine all the jokes related to smell if you manage to put more than 10 incels on the same room.

This is one thing i've been ruminating about an the reality is the minute you identify to this niche subculture you're effectively cutting yourself off from half the population (foids) and the other half that we seek to enlist are dissuaded as well given the opinion of the first half in combination with the sense of ego identifying with and taking seriously a movement plainly pertaining to sexless men rather than a broader set of grievances, Historically Incel men have given way to revolutions but those revolutions were not about being incel. It's not impossible to get people to exert themselves fanatically in furtherance of Black Pill ideology BUT FIRST WE must take that fanatic material which we possess and discipline it in way which escapes mere terrorism in the manner of Alec Minasian or Elliot Rodger which only stands to further isolate the ideology from the support of the people whom we rely on in order to successfully conduct revolution in the first place.

I paraphrased some of what i said from this user named "Broseph_Conrad" on MensRight.Space an he's fuckin spot on, hits the Hammer right on the nail with the point he makes in this direct quote

"That the movement itself is also largely constrained to online conduct is another major hindrance as there is no realistic impact that you can make by posting or making commentary alone. When you are a dissident ideologue on the internet you are quite literally engaging your adversary's (i.e. the US Gov't's) informational matrix, this makes a practicable politics nigh impossible as you are bound to be picked apart by internal security forces which take every note of everything through their total surveillance domination of the domain in question. By practicing a purely online politics real world praxis falls to the wayside as slacktivism, drama and infighting overtakes any actual potential. In order to have a successful politics you need an ability to set your interests against another through redlining, negotiation and an ability to incur costs on or gain leverage over rival parties to maintain political power."

We are goin to have to do ALOT of PR before we can make this a reality. The very word "Incel" has been tainted but there is still hope for the Black Pill as it's being widely adopted an accepted even by normies.

 

[She Does Not Exist]

You can also create a newsletter which would send blackpill content to those who subscribe to it. That's actually how people use to promote their ideas other than the aforementioned book writing before television and digital media came along.

Now as I think about it, I really don't think that has even been a blackpill-esque manifesto/polemic that has even been published other than Ted Kaczynski or Schopenhauer. I reckon it would be unique enough to be atleast initially popular.

Anything 'male suffering' would be cut of instantly, there is a reason suicide statistics are never shared because we know that they don't want these numbers out, placing a spotlight on Inceldom and Blackpill would eventually lead to more Incels which is not something good for the 'narrative'.

The only way to promote Inceldom / Blackpill in a 'good way' is to make someone outside the circle promote it aka a sympathizer.

But nobody famous will ever back up any Incel.

 

[Gen.SchizoAfricanus]

the above is the most fed coded thing to say. It works short term usually it's a honeypot that a fed would the first to suggest

Fair enough i could see where your concern comes from but there are ways of verifying incels without doxxin a simple post history verification would be enough , it would be obvious to see brand new accounts spamming incel coded comments an only aged accounts would be trusted or something similar to that.

 

[PhineasSpear]

Anything 'male suffering' would be cut of instantly, there is a reason suicide statistics are never shared because we know that they don't want these numbers out, placing a spotlight on Inceldom and Blackpill would eventually lead to more Incels which is not something good for the 'narrative'.

The only way to promote Inceldom / Blackpill in a 'good way' is to make someone outside the circle promote it aka a sympathizer.

But nobody famous will ever back up any Incel.

It'll need to be notorious; The only thing I can think of is if it sparks a nationwide movement and/or it is too controversial to ignore (e.g. The Turner Diaries).

I know going against the gynocentric status quo and lambasting it will surely bring a shit ton of notoriety.

 

[She Does Not Exist]

"That the movement itself is also largely constrained to online conduct is another major hindrance as there is no realistic impact that you can make by posting or making commentary alone. When you are a dissident ideologue on the internet you are quite literally engaging your adversary's (i.e. the US Gov't's) informational matrix, this makes a practicable politics nigh impossible as you are bound to be picked apart by internal security forces which take every note of everything through their total surveillance domination of the domain in question. By practicing a purely online politics real world praxis falls to the wayside as slacktivism, drama and infighting overtakes any actual potential. In order to have a successful politics you need an ability to set your interests against another through redlining, negotiation and an ability to incur costs on or gain leverage over rival parties to maintain political power."

Can be countered with the usual 'Conspiracy theory', plus you need proof that any monitoring from the gov is taking place, for that to happen an investigation from the own government (LOL!) would need to be started to see if there is any monitoring taking place.

We aren't considered oppressed from the 'Normie' POV, we are consired the oppressors, is a double edged sword, we are called losers but yet men who oppress women, we are powerful without power.

You can't win this battle let alone the war.

It'll need to be notorious; The only thing I can think of is if it sparks a nationwide movement and/or it is too controversial to ignore (e.g. The Turner Diaries).

I know going against the gynocentric status quo and lambasting it will surely bring a shit ton of notoriety.

Any and all hope of creating anything Incel meant to 'clean' our image is futile, any and all evil act someone commit on Reddit and he is instantly labelled an 'Incel'.

Incel is a derogatory word that is used for good on bluepilled social media, you REALLY can't change the connotation of this word lol.

Again the only possible way to bring real attention to something is if some shit e-celeb talks about it, then it will snowball from there.

 

[PhineasSpear]

Any and all hope of creating anything Incel meant to 'clean' our image is futile, any and all evil act someone commit on Reddit and he is instantly labelled an 'Incel'.

Incel is a derogatory word that is used for good on bluepilled social media, you REALLY can't change the connotation of this word lol.

Again the only possible way to bring real attention to something is if some shit e-celeb talks about it, then it will snowball from there.

I was suggesting more so to philosophize the Blackpill and make it mainstream (and thus broadening the network). Once someone already has a caricature of a certain group, it is really hard to polish it and thus useless.

I agree with the second and third point, though.

 

[Gen.SchizoAfricanus]

I was suggesting more so to philosophize the Blackpill and make it mainstream

^^^ this

 

[She Does Not Exist]

I was suggesting more so to philosophize the Blackpill and make it mainstream (and thus broadening the network). Once someone already has a caricature of a certain group, it is really hard to polish it and thus useless.

I agree with the second and third point, though.

We don't even need to go as deep as the word 'Incel', just 'male loneliness epidemic' is enough to blackpill any Incel that there is no winning or point in fighting.

Google 'male loneliness epidemic' and the first result is brushing it off, men are generaly looked down or expected to perform a certain way by society and Incels are the perfect scapegoat.

What can in theory be done to bring a spotlight to Incels and the blackpill is what causes it, bullying and autism are two cases that can be referenced, the problem starts at height, as they will brush it off and say it is not important, same as looks, they will say 'looks don't matter'.

To expose the blackpill to the general populace you want to lead then to the word without using the word.

 

[PhineasSpear]

To expose the blackpill to the general populace you want to lead then to the word without using the word.

You would also need to use scientific, empirical and statistical evidence which can be backed up.

 

[MajorThomas666]

I was suggesting more so to philosophize the Blackpill and make it mainstream (and thus broadening the network). Once someone already has a caricature of a certain group, it is really hard to polish it and thus useless.

I agree with the second and third point, though.

The Blackpill has been taken up by Chad and foids, having had dastardly results for incels.

What's your height and are you sub5?

 

[MajorThomas666]

You would also need to use scientific, empirical and statistical evidence which can be backed up.

Population does not care about scientific evidence.

 

[PhineasSpear]

What's your height and are you sub5?

5'5. And yes.

 

[PhineasSpear]

The Blackpill has been taken up by Chad and foids, having had dastardly results for incels.

You sure? Maybe Chads but I'm pretty sure foids are too retarded to even know about the Blackpill. They are so out of touch will reality they can qualify as delusional.

Though, I do imagine that Chads and foids are going to go the "appeal to nature" fallacy route and try to justify it like Social Darwinism and Machiavellianism.

 

[nihilum]

Let’s create a fight club.

 

[Gen.SchizoAfricanus]

Let’s create a fight club.

already broke the first rule ffs