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Do you know some incels from this Forum who ascended ?
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there are probably a few here still posting. i definetly know some
whites = volcels
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If they did, why would they tell us?
They probably stabbed us in the back and joined the rest of the cucks on IT.
They probably stabbed us in the back and joined the rest of the cucks on IT.
the ascended incels are the ones who accepted their fate
Maybe they're still incel since they only got pussy once
There are a few, and they still post here unfortunately. I will not tag usernames to comply with the no personal attacks rule, but they basically should be banned form here and should go post at looksmax so they can help other incels ascend.
TBH, most "incels" who "ascend" were never "incels" to begin with. Most are under 20 who just "grew up". There are many people here who are just woman hating normalfags who feign being incel to fit in with a group. They got tired of arguing with liberal uncle Charlie on Facebook and came here to get validated. They'll say I'm ugly bro but never prove it. I only got laid once bro not knowing their full potential. They're IT levels of intelligent. The nature of this forum attracts edgy kids unfortunately, and that's the story of alot of "ascended incels".
TBH, most "incels" who "ascend" were never "incels" to begin with. Most are under 20 who just "grew up". There are many people here who are just woman hating normalfags who feign being incel to fit in with a group. They got tired of arguing with liberal uncle Charlie on Facebook and came here to get validated. They'll say I'm ugly bro but never prove it. I only got laid once bro not knowing their full potential. They're IT levels of intelligent. The nature of this forum attracts edgy kids unfortunately, and that's the story of alot of "ascended incels".
Bluepilled. If you can get pussy once, you can get it more than once. Male attractiveness is largely genetic.
I want to ascend so bad 
If they got pussy once, without having to pay for it, they're not incel.
I wonder if any members roped.
If I ever ascend, I'll make a post about it on Braincels and make a point of shitting all over IT for spewing garbage advice I didn't follow to do so.
So if someone had sex 20 years ago and haven't gotten since, they're still not incel?
Incel means being involuntarily celibate
What do you exactly mean by that? You make it sound like a mission/achievement where once you ascend i.e. have sex one single time your life will be perfect after that, please correct me if I´m wrong.I want to ascend so bad
Actually George Sodini had sex many times I believe he said it was around 60 times in his manifesto but for the next 19 years he couldn´t get any, so by @PPEcel conclusion he isn´t involuntarily celibate which literally means he involuntarily can´t get sex even though he try?
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I gotta admit, that's a tough question.
I think you can lose your virginity to a non-escort foid and still be an incel if and only if there has been a large-scale downgrade in your appearance and ability to attract a foid between the time you lost your virginity and the present.
I suppose aging could be one valid "large-scale downgrade". Another valid reason could be a disability or disfigurement as the result of an accident.
I mean I want to looksmaxx, gymmaxx and fix my life to become a normie or Chadlite(I'll most probably have to moneymaxx to pay a surgery, but I like to hope).
>only wants to ascend with a virgin
>only wants white girls
>have hopes of ascending
>is constant trying to improve to ascend
Tbh how you conciliate the fact that you think that every incel who manage to ascend was always a volcel/fakecel and believing in improving yourself?
Are you confirming you are a fakecel?
Not having sex for 10 years is a paladin by oldschool/classic definition. 20 years without seem pretty loserish to me, most incels are too purist and selfcentered to admit that these people suffer too.
Suffering and bad looks are the core of inceldom imo. One pity fuck with a fat whale wont really change much for you I guess. Keep inceldom pure tho.
To ascend in America as a truecel you need to have a rich family, hit the lottery or rope yourself. If you only need a chin implant and nothing else, you're barely an incel. This website isn't that old, if this website is still up when most of us are in our forties we can talk about people who ascended. It takes half a decade to ascend if you're not rich and chances are you will be driven into poverty or suicide before you make it.
The incel community is rife with narcissism. All the gatekeeping that goes on here is a symptom of that. Getting a more accepting incel community would mean getting our narcissists to truly realize that their inflated self-pitying egos come from a coping subconscious, and not from any form of specialness or uniqueness on their part.
They werent incels if the ascended
No there othER ways
I know a few cucks here that are not incels and have no issues with getting girlfriends
But what do i know? Teehee
But what do i know? Teehee
I would love to hear your opinions in my new thread about the matter since what you are discussing it the topic of the thread.
>only wants to ascend with a virgin
>only wants white girls
>have hopes of ascending
>is constant trying to improve to ascend
Tbh how you conciliate the fact that you think that every incel who manage to ascend was always a volcel/fakecel and believing in improving yourself?
Are you confirming you are a fakecel?
I'm 23 (closer to 24), never had a GF nor sex, and have never recieved an opportunity for either. I think my numbers in themselves validate my incel status. As for my interest in virgin women, that's basically the only way to find a QUALITY woman. As we say around here: better incel than cuck. If you have relations with a non virgin woman, you will become a cuck (should you not already be one for desiring a non-virgin woman!). As for white women, part of ascension is having children, and I will not have racemixed 56% mutt kids. It hurts my pride and the kids themselves too much. In terms of my improvement, it's just in my nature. I am 23: while I have missed almost every major relationship and sexual milestone, I still think I am young enough to get something. I have no real signs of aging at this point, so I need to do what I can. PS is in my foreseeable future to fix me.
I don't believe every incel whom ascends is a fakecel, just a decent portion of them. I would point to @Ledgemund or @itsOVER for examples of properly ascended incels (though I believe ledgemund's woman was not a virgin; I'm not gonna be too picky). itsOVER posted on looksmax about how he improved himself. 80% of a man's attractiveness (if not more) is genetic makeup, and some of that is changeable due to plastic surgery, weight management, etc. I plan on not going down without a fight. Lastly, it is in my Christian nature to not be alone. The Lord has created woman to comfort man. I pray daily for a wife, and honestly asking the Lord is the surest thing I can do.
Also, I learned a new word today: conciliate. Thanks for teaching!
Not entirely wrong, but you have to consider the positive aspects of the gatekeeping too. At what point can women be incel if we do not gatekeep them out? Surely you do not believe a woman can be incel! If some guy hasn't had sex in a year, surely he will feel down and lonely, but can he relate to a proper incel? Surely not.
If you expect incels to be mentally healthy after a lifetime of mockery, exclusion, and missing of major life milestones, you're fooling yourself. The incelosphere is finally a place where we feel in-charge... I'd like to keep it that way.
Tbh tbh.
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I think a lot were teens below 20 aka not really incel in the 1st place
Obviously, we can't have a free-for-all where we accept anyone who calls themselves incel as incels, but there's no denying that people have come up with far too many ridiculous qualifiers for inceldom. I've seen people claim you can't be incel if you have friends in real life, or if you have a job, or if you have ever gotten a girl's phone number or gone on a coffee date even if it never led to anything. That's a clear-cut case of self-pitying narcissists putting themselves higher up on the "incel progressive stack" so they can feel more unique or special, and it needs to stop.
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yeah jesus, not any incels that i know personnely
kek comments ignore this answerI'm 23 (closer to 24), never had a GF nor sex, and have never recieved an opportunity for either. I think my numbers in themselves validate my incel status. As for my interest in virgin women, that's basically the only way to find a QUALITY woman. As we say around here: better incel than cuck. If you have relations with a non virgin woman, you will become a cuck (should you not already be one for desiring a non-virgin woman!). As for white women, part of ascension is having children, and I will not have racemixed 56% mutt kids. It hurts my pride and the kids themselves too much. In terms of my improvement, it's just in my nature. I am 23: while I have missed almost every major relationship and sexual milestone, I still think I am young enough to get something. I have no real signs of aging at this point, so I need to do what I can. PS is in my foreseeable future to fix me.
I don't believe every incel whom ascends is a fakecel, just a decent portion of them. I would point to @Ledgemund or @itsOVER for examples of properly ascended incels (though I believe ledgemund's woman was not a virgin; I'm not gonna be too picky). itsOVER posted on looksmax about how he improved himself. 80% of a man's attractiveness (if not more) is genetic makeup, and some of that is changeable due to plastic surgery, weight management, etc. I plan on not going down without a fight. Lastly, it is in my Christian nature to not be alone. The Lord has created woman to comfort man. I pray daily for a wife, and honestly asking the Lord is the surest thing I can do.
Also, I learned a new word today: conciliate. Thanks for teaching!
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Not entirely wrong, but you have to consider the positive aspects of the gatekeeping too. At what point can women be incel if we do not gatekeep them out? Surely you do not believe a woman can be incel! If some guy hasn't had sex in a year, surely he will feel down and lonely, but can he relate to a proper incel? Surely not.
If you expect incels to be mentally healthy after a lifetime of mockery, exclusion, and missing of major life milestones, you're fooling yourself. The incelosphere is finally a place where we feel in-charge... I'd like to keep it that way.
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I have long advocated this website to be 21+. Can incels be under 21? Sure! I was and so were alot of others and likely so were you. But without picture proof, it is impossible to tell whether you'll be incel before 21. If I was a mod, I would require all applicants under 21 to submit a private picture for judgement. I remember the old ratings megathread, there were plenty of ugly motherfuckers there under 21, and they should be allowed. However, this place has a few too many bored high school/early college kids here who haven't even finished maturing/growing up.
There's folks over on that hot website looksmax.org that say things like: Bro I was incel when I was 14 but I ascended at 18 trust me d00d I can help you ascend. Those folks represent a sizable portion of the incels whom ascend here. They should keep to looksmax, which is basically a cleaner and faster lookism.
Also, he's responded to some low-level race-bait done by an admittedly creative role-playing account and not to the OP.
Agreed. I've referred to this phenomenon in other threads as the "incel race-to-the-bottom". Two incels will clamor on how "truecel" they really are... Well you had friends when you were 16 so you're not an incel... You had a date with a woman and she rejected you for a second date, totally not incel bro!... I'm colored dude no colored folks ever have sex you're white CAN'T BE INCEL... When you're a loser, pity feels good. I understand why people do it, and I can fall victim to it too.
IMO this happens because as incels, we have never been the top-of-the-food-chain anywhere, so in a place where we can compete, we will always do our best. We are men after all, competition is in our blood. The competitive nature of the forum contributes to this as well (statusfagging as it's called)... giving people arbitrary ranks based off of how many times they can type a few words and hit enter or based on when the account was created doesn't seem like a good idea. I have talked to the higher ups here MANY times about this but nothing will change.
The questions for incel/volcel status are this easy:
- Are you a virgin?
- Are you male?
- Are you over 21?
Then to determine incel vs volcel:
- Do you desire sex or a relationship?
- Are you willingly overweight?
- Have you ever rejected a woman's advances?
Easy shit, but 'tards will put whatever they want to feel more special and elite than other incels. Pretty pathetic.
Improvement /= volcel /= growing up. These "ascended incels" were neither volcel nor unwilling to improve... they were just kids. They just needed to mature/grow up. The biggest slayer I know didn't start until 19.
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I made love with a 10/10 prime pussy
in my dreams
Then fatcel=volcel or not.
The key word, which is why I italicized it, is willingly. There are two types of fat folks, willing fats and unwilling fats:
Willing fats are folks who do not care if they are fat. They weren't fat as a kid, they just became fat due to excessive LDARing or pure ignorance of the importance of BF% and attraction. They eat unapologetically and do not care to lose weight. They will make excuses and refuse to try (note the key word here TRY, not necessarily succeed. Losing weight is harder that quitting drugs IMO, and failure is acceptable, not trying isn't.). These folks don't cry and plead to God to help them, don't actively suffer to try and fix the problem, and won't risk ruining relationships (family and friends) to solve the issue.
Unwilling fats are those who are fat despite trying their best not to be. Food addiction is insane, it is comparable to hard drugs such as heroin or coke. Considering that some base level of food is needed for survival and that coke and heroin can be avoided, it makes food addiction even harder to break IMO. Additionally, those whom are fat as kids/early teens cannot be faulted entirely... that blame partially if not fully rests on the parents. My parents let me get fucking thick as a kid and early teen, which gave me a food addiction I will never completely defeat. When I was 15 and 260lbs, I would've considered myself this type of fat... unwilling. Thankfully, I am at a healthy weight now.
If you are willingly fat, you're volcel. If you're unwillingly fat, you're incel.
It should be noted that no great facial bones have been exposed during my weight loss. Another reason why fatcel /= volcel. Losing weight does not grow or move bone.
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Cope. If you're white with no deformities you're a volcel.
I chat a fair bit with @itsOVER since we both live in Bangkok. He's definitely ascended since SEAmaxxing.
I have read it but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of self-hating deathnik foids go for white guys just because they're white.
@Octopusgun2 Surgerymaxxed and ascended I believe.
WTF are you talking about? https://incels.is/threads/rules-terminology-and-faq.799/ says that non-incel "Blackpilled" users have conditional acceptance, so long as they obey "No (discussing nor requesting) personal romantic or sexual experiences" rule here and the "no heavy bragging" rule elsewhere.
There isn't a rule against personal attacks, the rule is "No persecution, bullying". I think it's possible to attack someone without it necessarily being described as bullying or persecution. You can stand up to a bully by attacking them, for example, and that is NOT persecution.
Furthermore, simply saying you think someone is ascended doesn't seem like it would be in and of itself an "attack", unless you were insinuating that they were a liar because they claim otherwise and deny having ascended.
Why would non-incels need to hate women to be here?
Furthermore, there isn't any clear line on where "incel" begins. It seems like it's a sliding concept regarding accessibility to looksmax-adjacent mates. There is no means by which to ascertain that any purported incel has expended 100% efforts to pursue 100% of humans for sexual interactions, after all, so there is an element of volcel in someone who only expels 99% of their time pursuing 99% of the population.
I don't know that I agree here. What if someone spent their life savings on a prostitute and has no more money?
Or what if they got sex one time because they were handsome and tall but they had their face burned off and their legs amputated?
What about a low-tier normie who gets laid once and then balds severely?
Rapists don't pay for it, and what if it was just with a mess who intentionally gets with the most repulsive man possible because of self-hatred? Such a match would not speak towards any ability to find normal willing mates. Or what if someone else paid for it like your dad?
I don't like fake purity, or bullshit like a bunch of 20 year old babies who have really only been celibate for 5 countable years lecturing 40 year old guys who haven't fucked for 10 years about "forever alone" requirements.
Someone like Hotwheels, for example, I consider to be more incel than me, even though I am a virgin and he is not.
no one really ascends. You can't make up for lost time.
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