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Theory Incels Need Unity

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I've been reading an interesting book called "Why Nations Fail" by Daron Acemoglu. He argues that what makes for prosperity is the crossroads of centralization and democracy, aka "Inclusive Institutions". Nations fail because they fail to adopt inclusive institutions, and either fall to fragmentation or extractive political and economic institutions that concentrate resources in the hands of a narrow elite. Half the book is him explaining why niggers are such lolcows on the global scale. Their societies are unable to form proper central governments. Look at Somalia and Somaliand, or the civil wars in Nigeria or Rwanda. Niggers cannot form a central government to save their life. Compare that to the Unitary State of the United Kingdom, or any modern Western Nation with a strong central government. According to Daron, many Western Nations still are not ideal in this regard. The author stipulates that a Federation, which is what most Western Nations are, is an adolescent transitory stage between a Confederation (loose connection of States with no shared central authority) and a Unitary State (Federal Government holds all the power). Nations like Canada, and even moreso United States, give substantial rights to their provinces/states.

The other aspect of institutional inclusivity is democracy. Without proper representation, there's no reason for the political apparatus to adhere to the wishes of the public at all. The people need some kind of bargaining power over this centralized State or else they will become extractive pawns or surfs of the state.

If this book has any merit. Incels need to unite, less divison over trivial and political matters, and more respect for any brocels on equal Incel footing (rejection from foids). We also need Democratic Institutions when it comes to deciding incel doctrine and forum policy, which I think we generally do a pretty good job with already.
 
CursedMutantSoul said:
I've been reading an interesting book called "Why Nations Fail" by Daron Acemoglu. He argues that what makes for prosperity is the crossroads of centralization and democracy, aka "Inclusive Institutions". Nations fail because they fail to adopt inclusive institutions, and either fall to fragmentation or extractive political and economic institutions that concentrate resources in the hands of a narrow elite. Half the book is him explaining why niggers are such lolcows on the global scale. Their societies are unable to form proper central governments. Look at Somalia and Somaliand, or the civil wars in Nigeria or Rwanda. Niggers cannot form a central government to save their life. Compare that to the Unitary State of the United Kingdom, or any modern Western Nation with a strong central government. According to Daron, many Western Nations still are not ideal in this regard. The author stipulates that a Federation, which is what most Western Nations are, is an adolescent transitory stage between a Confederation (loose connection of States with no shared central authority) and a Unitary State (Federal Government holds all the power). Nations like Canada, and even moreso United States, give substantial rights to their provinces/states.

The other aspect of institutional inclusivity is democracy. Without proper representation, there's no reason for the political apparatus to adhere to the wishes of the public at all. The people need some kind of bargaining power over this centralized State or else they will become extractive pawns or surfs of the state.

If this book has any merit. Incels need to unite, less divison over trivial and political matters, and more respect for any brocels on equal Incel footing (rejection from foids). We also need Democratic Institutions when it comes to deciding incel doctrine and forum policy, which I think we generally do a pretty good job with already.
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Brutal noreplypill
 
CursedMutantSoul said:
This book would disagree.
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Maybe you could be our Caesar-like figure after you come back from the front lines of Ukraine - just like Mussolini.
Then, you can rally the Incels into destroyed the ruling elite (Chads) and provide government mandated stacys for every KHHV past the age of 21.
You have my support.
 
Firefighter said:
Maybe you could be our Caesar-like figure after you come back from the front lines of Ukraine - just like Mussolini.
Then, you can rally the Incels into destroyed the ruling elite (Chads) and provide government mandated stacys for every KHHV past the age of 21.
You have my support.
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That would be my ideal life, lisan al gaib tier life.
 
People in here are locked inside the name calling and race hatred mentality, they only see race and identity, therefore unity will be almost impossible to be achieved
 
BRZionist said:
People in here are locked inside the name calling and race hatred mentality, they only see race and identity, therefore unity will be almost impossible to be achieved
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It's a shame. I don't want to sound like a woke Libtard but Incels should not be dividing ourselves further with race shit. The real division is between Incel and Chad.
 
BRZionist said:
People in here are locked inside the name calling and race hatred mentality, they only see race and identity, therefore unity will be almost impossible to be achieved
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yes there are other reasons as well not just race.
 
It probably won't happen tbh, even within a community with a shared problem there is too much divergence in viewpoints as to (a) why that problem exists and (b) how to resolve it
 
Opportunistic factions might also try to hijack a "united front" for their own selfish ends. For example muslim elements might turn the whole thing into a retarded jihad even though no one else intended that.
 
Giracel said:
Opportunistic factions might also try to hijack a "united front" for their own selfish ends. For example muslim elements might turn the whole thing into a retarded jihad even though no one else intended that.
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You think we take jihad in a retarded way like this ?
Jihad is "Muslims against the kuffar" not "incels vs foids on the internet"

Grow up.
 
4RAB.GUY said:
You think we take jihad in a retarded way like this ?
Jihad is "Muslims against the kuffar" not "incels vs foids on the internet"

Grow up.
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I've seen Muslimcels do it, grow the fuck up
 
4RAB.GUY said:
These are larpers who don't take religious topics in a serious way

So shut the fuck up
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You are the larper, so shut the fuck up
 
 
4RAB.GUY said:
Jihad is "Muslims against the kuffar" not "incels vs foids on the internet"
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Doesn't Jihad means struggle, fight against oppression and spreading religion though?
 
FromOuterVenus said:
Doesn't Jihad means struggle, fight against oppression and spreading religion though?
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Yes
Fighting idolatry and disbelief, like fighting Jews, secularists etc...

Jihad exist today, look at Palestine vs israel
 
CursedMutantSoul said:
I've been reading an interesting book called "Why Nations Fail" by Daron Acemoglu. He argues that what makes for prosperity is the crossroads of centralization and democracy, aka "Inclusive Institutions". Nations fail because they fail to adopt inclusive institutions, and either fall to fragmentation or extractive political and economic institutions that concentrate resources in the hands of a narrow elite. Half the book is him explaining why niggers are such lolcows on the global scale. Their societies are unable to form proper central governments. Look at Somalia and Somaliand, or the civil wars in Nigeria or Rwanda. Niggers cannot form a central government to save their life. Compare that to the Unitary State of the United Kingdom, or any modern Western Nation with a strong central government. According to Daron, many Western Nations still are not ideal in this regard. The author stipulates that a Federation, which is what most Western Nations are, is an adolescent transitory stage between a Confederation (loose connection of States with no shared central authority) and a Unitary State (Federal Government holds all the power). Nations like Canada, and even moreso United States, give substantial rights to their provinces/states.

The other aspect of institutional inclusivity is democracy. Without proper representation, there's no reason for the political apparatus to adhere to the wishes of the public at all. The people need some kind of bargaining power over this centralized State or else they will become extractive pawns or surfs of the state.

If this book has any merit. Incels need to unite, less divison over trivial and political matters, and more respect for any brocels on equal Incel footing (rejection from foids). We also need Democratic Institutions when it comes to deciding incel doctrine and forum policy, which I think we generally do a pretty good job with already.
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BTW Soviets had a concept called "Democratic centralism" which is the proper combination of centralism and democracy. They mitigated Balkanization by having minority representation in the form of governmental caucuses. The way democratic centralism is supposed to work is the dictatorship of one party which decisions are made democratically at first and then centralization/conformity is required once the decision has been made. I'm not sure that this played out all that well, though but I don't know that much
 
Giracel said:
It probably won't happen tbh, even within a community with a shared problem there is too much divergence in viewpoints as to (a) why that problem exists and (b) how to resolve it
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I think there is a concept called the narcissism of small differences. Basically when there is agreement about major stuff people end up bickering and become immortal enemies over the most minor stuff
 
4RAB.GUY said:
You think we take jihad in a retarded way like this ?
Jihad is "Muslims against the kuffar" not "incels vs foids on the internet"

Grow up.
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The purported front would be a social movement, i.e. something that can be hijacked. Also I don't appreciate being called a slur for not believing in the goatfucker religion.

As time goes on, the line between this forum and reddit blurs. There is nothing "based" about this place lmao.
 
Zionist said:
People in here are locked inside the name calling and race hatred mentality, they only see race and identity, therefore unity will be almost impossible to be achieved
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I have no problem with anyone other than Arab Muslims an their supporters, I'm not Jewish but as a Ex-muslim, No one is more familiar with the Blight of that Arab Supremacist Religion called islam. I have no problem with any White/Black/asian/Christian, Pagan , or Jewish person.

Hell i don't even have a problem with the White Nationalist who hate blacks cuz yknow what, I get it but the Only common enemy i will not tolerate any degree of unity with is the Islamofascist Arab supremacist / supporter. Incels need to understand the current struggle is not Israeli/Jewish elites vs society but Islamist/ Leftist elitist's an power hungry world order(Putin, Xi an those faggots in qatar an saudi) vs Western Values !!

We need to separate ourselves from these glowie fags within the right who ally with Islam an Leftist in the name of spiting Jews and cause infighting , This is textbook soviet subversion tactics. Black pilled Incels should not be falling into the Normie hate train against Israel. WE of all people should understand Israel's position in the middle east, There was always a bias against them an when they defend themselves people freak the fuck out , much like when the quiet guy finally snaps an loses his shit an everyone acts surprised. Anyways that's my piece, i don't care what anyones opinion on Israel is, As long as they keep Fighting Islamic Fascism they are the good guys in my book.
 
Incels cannot be united
 
I completely agree with you we need more blackpilled incel unity specifically , there's too many fakecels claiming incel rn cuz its trendy. Historically , Major changes have happened during times of uncertainty an war , like the times we are currently living in. The problem is the gynocentric society we live in controls the power of the military an intelligence apparatus of this country.

We cannot congregate online without being spied on, subverted an sabotaged. We could not make a real movement online. We'd have to find a safe platform, a way to truly vet an verify if someone is a incel or fakecel spying on us. The blessing in disguise about being a Incel is , its impossible to fake being one IRL , The real will recognize real.

Maybe some blackpill meet ups are in order, Nothing serious, just light discussion to talk an get to know each other, Maybe a speech inviting an initiating all the brothers into something that can form the gestation period for a real political movement an more if need be, we could meet up at a Beer Hall for example :) Take notes of who's who until we get some footing into the real world. I'm From Ontario, Canada. Where the rest of you trucells at ?
 
Giracel said:
Opportunistic factions might also try to hijack a "united front" for their own selfish ends. For example muslim elements might turn the whole thing into a retarded jihad even though no one else intended that.
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this is happening right now with white incel who are fallin into the wignat grift an their using their righteous anger for the wrong cause, they want a retarded senseless race war when there are plenty of other non white incel bros who also got fucked by the Liberal Gynocentric World Order, These wignats also conveniently forget its literally liberal white women who are voting for immigration policies an such. Shit pisses me off to no end because they actually have pretty good unity and a high trust community network, probably due to the links with Wignat Organized Crime but still, if you take a look at Twitter an check out @scalpcom its basically a network of preppers/right wing tactical tribal minded group that gets together an train. I want something similar for us.
 
it’s too dangerous, we will be marked as terrorist for speaking the truth and the last of us will be hunted down by the government.
 
Gen.SchizoAfricanus said:
this is happening right now with white incel who are fallin into the wignat grift an their using their righteous anger for the wrong cause, they want a retarded senseless race war when there are plenty of other non white incel bros who also got fucked by the Liberal Gynocentric World Order, These wignats also conveniently forget its literally liberal white women who are voting for immigration policies an such. Shit pisses me off to no end because they actually have pretty good unity and a high trust community network, probably due to the links with Wignat Organized Crime but still, if you take a look at Twitter an check out @scalpcom its basically a network of preppers/right wing tactical tribal minded group that gets together an train. I want something similar for us.
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Most incels are nonwhite too. Not that white incels aren't suffering as well (I'm white).

What do you think of ACP (American Communist Party)?
 
I used to be deep into communism, I still believe in the power of authoritarian governments but I believe a REGULATED free market economy is best for Society. In a Ideal society there would be elements of both Communism an free market, People would still pay taxes, Have living wages an their bare minimum needs met by the government but certain sectors would be collectivized by the government because private interest can not be trusted with such things as Housing , Medical an Education.
 
INVERTER said:
Most incels are nonwhite too. Not that white incels aren't suffering as well (I'm white).

What do you think of ACP (American Communist Party)?
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Honestly didn't even know America had an Active Communist Party lmao kinda surprised. Thought Socialism was as far left as America would allow after that whole cold war fiasco.
 
Gen.SchizoAfricanus said:
Honestly didn't even know America had an Active Communist Party lmao kinda surprised. Thought Socialism was as far left as America would allow after that whole cold war fiasco.
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ACP tolerates incels and people from "problematic" backgrounds because they aren't liberal. They still uphold anti-imperialist and pro 3rd worldist views. They do have a mix of members though
 
INVERTER said:
ACP tolerates incels and people from "problematic" backgrounds because they aren't liberal. They still uphold anti-imperialist and pro 3rd worldist views. They do have a mix of members though
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I believe that might be their official policy but I think the average communist would say otherwise, Aren't their a lot of Radical Feminist's within that party who blur the line between communism and liberals ?
 
Zionist said:
People in here are locked inside the name calling and race hatred mentality, they only see race and identity, therefore unity will be almost impossible to be achieved
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Unity with Kikes, Niggers, and other filthy subhumans isn't possible
 
Gen.SchizoAfricanus said:
I have no problem with anyone other than Arab Muslims an their supporters, I'm not Jewish but as a Ex-muslim, No one is more familiar with the Blight of that Arab Supremacist Religion called islam. I have no problem with any White/Black/asian/Christian, Pagan , or Jewish person.

Hell i don't even have a problem with the White Nationalist who hate blacks cuz yknow what, I get it but the Only common enemy i will not tolerate any degree of unity with is the Islamofascist Arab supremacist / supporter. Incels need to understand the current struggle is not Israeli/Jewish elites vs society but Islamist/ Leftist elitist's an power hungry world order(Putin, Xi an those faggots in qatar an saudi) vs Western Values !!

We need to separate ourselves from these glowie fags within the right who ally with Islam an Leftist in the name of spiting Jews and cause infighting , This is textbook soviet subversion tactics. Black pilled Incels should not be falling into the Normie hate train against Israel. WE of all people should understand Israel's position in the middle east, There was always a bias against them an when they defend themselves people freak the fuck out , much like when the quiet guy finally snaps an loses his shit an everyone acts surprised. Anyways that's my piece, i don't care what anyones opinion on Israel is, As long as they keep Fighting Islamic Fascism they are the good guys in my book.
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Good goy
 
Gen.SchizoAfricanus said:
Maybe some blackpill meet ups are in order, Nothing serious, just light discussion to talk an get to know each other, Maybe a speech inviting an initiating all the brothers into something that can form the gestation period for a real political movement an more if need be, we could meet up at a Beer Hall for example :) Take notes of who's who until we get some footing into the real world. I'm From Ontario, Canada. Where the rest of you trucells at ?
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Glowie glowing
 
Blackpill Monk said:
No officer, I am not a degenerate redditard like you
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lmfao right the guy callin every non jew hater a glowie goy is not a redditor haha OK bubba , You can report back to your pansexual gatherin of dungeons an dragons players now , you did good work for your IT mommies.
 
Gen.SchizoAfricanus said:
lmfao right the guy callin every non jew hater a glowie goy is not a redditor haha OK bubba , You can report back to your pansexual gatherin of dungeons an dragons players now , you did good work for your IT mommies.
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Stop your projection bro. And reddit is a filled of kike lover degenerate like you
 
"stop your projection 🥸" lmfao bro yall look me dead in my eye an tell me this aint a redditor 🤣 anyways im off this, Goodluck with your race war hopefully the 6'5 roided out chad wingnats dont turn you into their kept boy doin bitch work. I don't like fighting with incels but i dont like bein called a glowie either, damn atleast twitter jiggas let you explain yourself before callin you a glowie goy.
 
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