Serious Incels didn't exist in prehistory

[Involuntarily]

Sex at Dawn - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Thus the authors believe that there is a false assumption that our species is primarily monogamous and offer evidence to the contrary. They argue, for example, that our sexual dimorphism, testicle size, female copulatory vocalization, appetite for sexual novelty, various cultural practices, and hidden female ovulation, among other factors strongly suggest a non-monogamous, non-polygynous history. The authors argue that mate selection among pre-agricultural humans was not the subject of intragroup competition as sex was neither scarce nor commodified. Rather, sperm competition was a more important paternity factor than sexual selection. This behavior survives among some remaining hunter-forager groups that believe in partible paternity.

The authors take a broad position that goes beyond sexual behavior, arguing that humans are generally more egalitarian and selfless than is often thought. In an interview, Ryan said, "So we’re not saying that sharing was so widespread because everyone was loving and sitting around the fire singing “Kumbaya” every night. The reason that sharing was so widespread—and continues to be in the remaining hunter-gatherer societies in existence—is because it's simply the most efficient way of distributing risk among a group of people." However, the advent of agriculture led to the advent of private property and the accumulation of power and completely changed people's lifestyles. This change in lifestyle fundamentally altered the way people behave and has left modern humans in a situation where their instincts are at odds with the societies in which they live.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

"Incels didn't exist in prehistory"

Fact check: Pants on fire.

8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man

An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.

psmag.com

 

[Bane of Arthropods]

Too high iq didn't read

 

[Personalityinkwell]

"Incels didn't exist in prehistory"

Fact check: Pants on fire.

8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man

An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.

psmag.com

We're reverting back to these days unfortunately. Soon chadlites will be incel. It will soon be Chad or incel. "Normies" won't exist

 

[Involuntarily]

"Incels didn't exist in prehistory"

Fact check: Pants on fire.

8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man

An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.

psmag.com

But in the OP, I quoted how sperm competition was a bigger factor, and neanderthals had low fertility anyway. Not all sex leads to child birth, and it's possible the weaker children died even if men who would have been incel had them.

Try to find incels in an uncivilized country. Africa doesn't have incels like the west.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

But in the OP, I quoted how sperm competition was a bigger factor, and neanderthals had low fertility anyway. Not all sex leads to child birth, and it's possible the weaker children died even if men who would have been incel had them.

Try to find incels in an uncivilized country. Africa doesn't have incels like the west.

Sexual selection has been around before modern humans ever existed. It's been observed in many species. Males of some species have even developed traits that are very explicitly counterintuitive to survival, solely due to sexual selection.

Sexual selection + the fact that males pursue mates and seldom vice versa = a significant portion of males being incel.

Also the only reason there aren't really any Africans (specifically from the underdeveloped parts of the continent, which is what I presume you meant) on here is due to a lack of internet access and language barrier.

 

[Lame Dude]

Isnt it estimated that %40 of men in history didnt reproduce? Lets say some of them got to have femoid approval/relationships, the rest were incels. They are social outcasts and they are invisible like you and me. (When foids talk about "men" they mean the top%20 for example)

The mentioned article basically talks about poligamy where everyone gets to lay with everyone, and I dont believe that for a second. When some thing belongs to everyone, it is nobody's responsibility to take care of it. Children basically become the tragedy of the commons. I doubt that such a tribe would be fit to compete with others doing the opposite. However such a lifestyle wouldnt be an issue for an island nation for example.

In the end, this is like saying, if any incel went to an orgy they would slay. No.

 

[azakhan]

That’s true, this is the reason why humans have such big penises (at least some of us, brutal dickpill) compared to other animals. Bigger dick means bigger chance at getting women pregnant and therefore giving your big dick genes to next generation.

 

[FukFeminism]

There have always been and always will be incels. We are only growing in number. 2020 sub 9 will become incel by the end of the year. We can only imagine what the end of this decade will bring. The previous one was probably the most degenerate of all time.

 

[suicidalsincesix]

"Incels didn't exist in prehistory"

Fact check: Pants on fire.

8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man

An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.

psmag.com

Retard level reading comprehension. I seriously wish you fucking morons would fuck off this site. Your article refers to the time after the advent of farming. The OP is about before farming, and it even goes on to state that after the neolithic revolution and the creation of private property, things changed.

 

[Deleted member 19546]

"Incels didn't exist in prehistory"

Fact check: Pants on fire.

8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man

An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.

psmag.com

Can you read? it says: "After humanity discovered agriculture"

 

[suislayer]

Take shit like this with a grain of salt. It sounds like communist bullshit to me.
"People are actually selfless by nature even though it's never displayed irl"
"A collective society would totally guys xd"

 

[Deleted member 12273]

Sex at Dawn - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Thus the authors believe that there is a false assumption that our species is primarily monogamous and offer evidence to the contrary. They argue, for example, that our sexual dimorphism, testicle size, female copulatory vocalization, appetite for sexual novelty, various cultural practices, and hidden female ovulation, among other factors strongly suggest a non-monogamous, non-polygynous history. The authors argue that mate selection among pre-agricultural humans was not the subject of intragroup competition as sex was neither scarce nor commodified. Rather, sperm competition was a more important paternity factor than sexual selection. This behavior survives among some remaining hunter-forager groups that believe in partible paternity.

The authors take a broad position that goes beyond sexual behavior, arguing that humans are generally more egalitarian and selfless than is often thought. In an interview, Ryan said, "So we’re not saying that sharing was so widespread because everyone was loving and sitting around the fire singing “Kumbaya” every night. The reason that sharing was so widespread—and continues to be in the remaining hunter-gatherer societies in existence—is because it's simply the most efficient way of distributing risk among a group of people." However, the advent of agriculture led to the advent of private property and the accumulation of power and completely changed people's lifestyles. This change in lifestyle fundamentally altered the way people behave and has left modern humans in a situation where their instincts are at odds with the societies in which they live.

Not true for indoeuropeans and maybe uralics. They had a great sense of patrilineality before agriculture, and enslaved/killed everyone not belonging to the tribe.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

Sex at Dawn - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Thus the authors believe that there is a false assumption that our species is primarily monogamous and offer evidence to the contrary. They argue, for example, that our sexual dimorphism, testicle size, female copulatory vocalization, appetite for sexual novelty, various cultural practices, and hidden female ovulation, among other factors strongly suggest a non-monogamous, non-polygynous history. The authors argue that mate selection among pre-agricultural humans was not the subject of intragroup competition as sex was neither scarce nor commodified. Rather, sperm competition was a more important paternity factor than sexual selection. This behavior survives among some remaining hunter-forager groups that believe in partible paternity.

The authors take a broad position that goes beyond sexual behavior, arguing that humans are generally more egalitarian and selfless than is often thought. In an interview, Ryan said, "So we’re not saying that sharing was so widespread because everyone was loving and sitting around the fire singing “Kumbaya” every night. The reason that sharing was so widespread—and continues to be in the remaining hunter-gatherer societies in existence—is because it's simply the most efficient way of distributing risk among a group of people." However, the advent of agriculture led to the advent of private property and the accumulation of power and completely changed people's lifestyles. This change in lifestyle fundamentally altered the way people behave and has left modern humans in a situation where their instincts are at odds with the societies in which they live.

I'm not convinced by the notion that our instincts haven't changed in 12k years. maybe they haven't in places like Africa, but after reading 10k year explosion it's evident to me that drastic changes in environment/society quickly influence that civilization's genetic makeup as well, not just learned behavior.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Foolish humans trying to deceive themselves, lying to forget their barbaric past which is a reminder of their barbaric present. This bloodbath has existed since the beginning of sexual reproduction itself. It's always been a genetic winner takes all system of mogging, bullying, murdering, and enslaving. Feminist matriarchy is the model of pre civilized human relations. Sexual competition is the root of all bloodshed and hatred, sex is the ultimate form of violence and oppression. Every time a man puts a penis into a vagina, he might as well put a bullet in the back of another man's head. As long as we need females to reproduce, might makes right and the downtrodden shall continue to suffer. Humans are the black hearted death apes.

 

[Sheogorath]

I bet in prehistoric days, everyone got to fuck foids, women weren't on pedestols so you would just share them.

"Incels didn't exist in prehistory"

Fact check: Pants on fire.

8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man

An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.

psmag.com

That doesn't disprove incels, it just means that if non-chads were fucking, they were getting cucked by Chads who had superior dick shape for scooping out beta cum.

Only cucked if they actually raised the young, of course.

 

[CrackingYs]

In the grand scheme anyone who does not reproduce is essentially the same as an incels. Incels are the genetic dead ends, the leaf nodes, in the tree of life.

 

[Involuntarily]

Sexual selection has been around before modern humans ever existed. It's been observed in many species. Males of some species have even developed traits that are very explicitly counterintuitive to survival, solely due to sexual selection.

Sexual selection + the fact that males pursue mates and seldom vice versa = a significant portion of males being incel.

Also the only reason there aren't really any Africans (specifically from the underdeveloped parts of the continent, which is what I presume you meant) on here is due to a lack of internet access and language barrier.

Sexual selection matters, but it doesn't shape social creatures when they share a group. Goats for example all faint when scared, prosocial evolution occurs in herds and groupings.

Not true for indoeuropeans and maybe uralics. They had a great sense of patrilineality before agriculture, and enslaved/killed everyone not belonging to the tribe.

Did you read the article or the second paragraph I posted?

I'm not convinced by the notion that our instincts haven't changed in 12k years. maybe they haven't in places like Africa, but after reading 10k year explosion it's evident to me that drastic changes in environment/society quickly influence that civilization's genetic makeup as well, not just learned behavior.

What instincts changed? Why are incels still afraid of foids who are physically weaker and smaller?

Take shit like this with a grain of salt. It sounds like communist bullshit to me.
"People are actually selfless by nature even though it's never displayed irl"
"A collective society would totally guys xd"

It isn't communist, in fact communism is totally appropriate at small groupings such as families, but this is about how humans naturally are. We don't naturally like in million dollar homes or cities with overcrowding and millions of people either. But if you had read any more than the title, you'd know that.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Thus the authors believe that there is a false assumption that our species is primarily monogamous and offer evidence to the contrary.

Shit book then. Wouldn't bother reading it.

 

[Deleted member 18214]

Too high iq didn't read

 

[FinnCel]

Cope.
Women have rights now and they only fuck top guys.
If OP was right we would all drown in pussy

 

[ReallyRice]

Also the only reason there aren't really any Africans (specifically from the underdeveloped parts of the continent, which is what I presume you meant) on here is due to a lack of internet access and language barrier.

Access to incels.co should be a human right tbh..

 

[HappilySingle]

In caveman times they would have killed any male once it was clear they were incel, out of mercy.