Incels are actually WRONG!

[virgin4life]

I am serious!!! Us incels believe that we are ugly and that is why we don't get laid. WRONG!!! You do not get laid because SIX MALES COMPETE FOR ONE FOID!!! Here are the actual numbers for the USA:

1) Up until 100 years ago men were killed in wars and shit so human nature adapted to that by giving birth to slightly more males than females in order to compensate for the losses. Today, however, there are no wars in the west so this means we have a lot more males than females. For example there were about 11.2 million males between the ages of 20 and 24-years-old in the United States in 2018. In the same year, there were about about 10.67 million females between the ages of 20 and 24-years-old in the U.S. The ratio is 105 to 100.

105 males for every 100 females.

2) The second problem is that all men are going for young females from 18 to 35 because only those have the ability to breed. This applies to men from 18 to 50. So for example there are 65.26 million men from 20 to 49 in the USA but only 33.15 women from 20 to 35.

This means we already have 100 men competing over 50.8 women.

3) However, you have to keep in mind that only 45% of Americans are single (source) which makes the issue much much worse because now we have:

For example in our example above with 100 men and 50.8 women this means that of those 150.8 people only 67.86 are single. 82.94 are in a relationship. This means we have 41.47 couples so we can substract that number from each group. This leaves us with:

58.53 male singles competing over 9.33 female singles.

Q.e.d. It is really that simple. It has nothing to do with being ugly. It has nothing to do with your personality. It is nothing but a numbers game. That is all there is to it.

 

[Deleted member 18515]

 

[Deleted member 18214]

Its over if you are not at least 6"5 and have a 8+/10 face

 

[Murdoch89]

I thought that most countries in the world had more females than males

 

[dingopuss]

I thought that most countries in the world had more females than males

It's true in the US as well. Damned if I'm wrong.

 

[virgin4life]

I thought that most countries in the world had more females than males

No pretty much all countries in the world have more males than females in the age group of 18 to 50. Only since men die younger you have millions of grannys with no male counterpart. So from 18 to 50 you have more males and then at 90 you have 5 million foids and almost no men. This way the stats look like there are more foids which is not really the case. There are just a lot of grannies.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Its over if you are not at least 6"5 and have a 8+/10 face

The numbers just make lookism even fucking worse... Absolute genocide here without a question. The spirits of the Native Americans are fucking crying for us, they know they were luckier than we are...

 

[virgin4life]

It's true in the US as well. Damned if I'm wrong.

Same in the US. I looked up the stats. From 18 to 50 there are significantly more males than females. There are just millions of grannies without male counterparts because men die younger. The total amount of foids is higher but not in the 18 to 50 age group. Here there are 5% more men. But also look at the second and third point I posted. The ratio is 6 to 1 on the dating market.

 

[Murdoch89]

No pretty much all countries in the world have more males than females in the age group of 18 to 50. Only since men die younger you have millions of grannys with no male counterpart. So from 18 to 50 you have more males and then at 90 you have 5 million foids and almost no men. This way the stats look like there are more foids which is not really the case. There are just a lot of grannies.

I remember reading in some book the country with more males than females ratio was Qatar and the other way around was Ukraine

 

[Subhumanism]

I thought that most countries in the world had more females than males

Yes, but only because women live longer on average, so the ratio reverses with increasing age.

 

[dingopuss]

We're not wrong if Stacy only has sex with Chad. Even if they're a smaller % of the population, it doesn't change the fact they're still putting out for Chad and Chad only.

It doesn't change the fact that our looksmatch puts out for Chad and Chad only.

 

[virgin4life]

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No bro! I truely believe in this. Of course foids will only take Chads. It is because they can take the top 15% and still every single foid will have a partner. But this is not because you are ugly. It is due to the numbers. It lies in the nature of things.

 

[SupremeG]

It's right that we have too much competition, but Foid still rejects me if there was none because of muh autism and height.

 

[virgin4life]

We're not wrong if Stacy only has sex with Chad. Even if they're a smaller % of the population, it doesn't change the fact they're still putting out for Chad and Chad only.

Yes but that is a statistical thing. It is not because we are ugly. It is just because the game is rigged by nature. Most incels believe they are subhuman and that is wrong.

 

[Deleted member 18912]

Wut
Please save me some brain cells.
They´re expensive and limited from constant brain damage, that i get from reading shit like this.

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[virgin4life]

It's right that we have too much competition, but Foid still rejects me if there was none because of autism and height.

If there were enough foids then each foid would have one partner and some foid would be left for you. They would have to date their looksmatch.

 

[dingopuss]

If there were enough foids then each foid would have one partner and some foid would be left for you. They would have to date their looksmatch.

Bluepilled to assume it's 1 male for each female, as if Chad isn't allowed to have more than one girl JFL

J.F.L. "Oh no, there's not enough Chads to sleep with, whatever shall I do?"

She'd go for the local Chad instead of a fucking (or non-fucking) sub6 male and you know it.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Also where I live in my age range ~60% of women are obese, 20% of women overweight & 20% thin. All the men are going for those 20% of thin women.. with some men willing to go the overweight women.

With your statistics & the fatpill its no wonder my normie friends are struggling so much over the last few years just to get a date here and there, and of course no chance at getting a relationship. Some of these guys are literally spending hours per day message women on dating apps & websites.

 

[fOreVER]

This is very unsettling . Tell the mods to sticky this

 

[virgin4life]

i dont think thats how maths works. 45% of 100 is 45. 45% of 50.8 is 22.86.

so it's really 45 men competing for 22.86 women, which is still retarded af.

No bro. Let me explain. We have 100 males on 50.8 females so that is 150.8 people we are looking at. Out of those 150.8 * 0.55 = 82.94 are in a relationship. However, since a couple consists of one male and one female that means 41.47 males and 41.47 females are in a relationship leaving us with:

100 - 41.47 = 58.53 males singles

and

50.8 - 41.47 = 9.33 female singles

Does that make sense?

 

[RollD20]

It is really that simple. It has nothing to do with being ugly. It has nothing to do with your personality. It is nothing but a numbers game. That is all there is to it.

Supply and demand. There are little amount of foids in demand to the amount of males. Its probably why there is a rise in cucks, and the fact females have massive numbers of orbiters now.

 

[Guest2]

It's funny, because this pretty much aligns with the '80/20' rule. 10 women for every 60 guys means that only a little over 1/6, so let's say 1/7 are succeeding (assuming that it's not always going to just end in marriage; people are passed around these days), so only 14.29% of guys are getting main access to these women.

seems mostly legit. It wouldn't be our problem if we were the attractive guys, though.

 

[MaxZM98]

No bro. Let me explain. We have 100 males on 50.8 females so that is 150.8 people we are looking at. Out of those 150.8 * 0.55 = 82.94 are in a relationship. However, since a couple consists of one male and one female that means 41.47 males and 41.47 females are in a relationship leaving us with:

100 - 41.47 = 58.53 males singles

and

50.8 - 41.47 = 9.33 female singles

Does that make sense?

i already deleted that comment lol.

 

[LastGerman]

Its over if you are not at least 6"5 and have a 8+/10 face

As a man you really have to be a god walking amonst men.

 

[Guest2]

Thanks for following that advice about not listening to me

 

[WizardofSoda]

It's funny, because this pretty much aligns with the '80/20' rule. 10 women for every 60 guys means that only a little over 1/6, so let's say 1/7 are succeeding (assuming that it's not always going to just end in marriage; people are passed around these days), so only 14.29% of guys are getting main access to these women.

seems mostly legit. It wouldn't be our problem if we were the attractive guys, though.

That is what normies were thinking just a few years ago, 'sucks for them, not my problem'.

 

[frustratedhapa]

Eh somewhat true but not really. Youngcels shouldn't worry about competition from 30+ year olds because young women don't want those men. So the competition isn't that strong.

 

[Robtical]

for example there are 65.26 million men from 20 to 49 in the USA but only 33.15 women from 20 to 35.

Then why aren't we even able to get single cat ladies over 35?

 

[frustratedhapa]

Then why aren't we even able to get single cat ladies over 35?

You make a good point. I've tried hitting on milfs before, and even ugly non-milf older women, and they don't want me either.

 

[virgin4life]

Eh somewhat true but not really. Youngcels shouldn't worry about competition from 30+ year olds because young women don't want those men. So the competition isn't that strong.

Sure a 49 yo dude will not compete for an 18 year old teen girl. But he can go for a 35 year old and this is already enough to establish my argument. Maybe my numbers are a bit high but even if you just say all men between 18 and 40 go for women from 18 to 35 you would still have a 3 to 1 ratio or something along those lines.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

It has nothing to do with being ugly. It has nothing to do with your personality. It is nothing but a numbers game. That is all there is to it.

There is a number disparity, but that's on top of the looks issue.

 

[virgin4life]

Then why aren't we even able to get single cat ladies over 35?

I looked at the statistics and even in that age range you will have overproportionally many males competing. Only above 60 things suddenly change dramatically. NOBODY wants those women anymore. So if you go for one of those once you are 70 or so your chances will be good.

There is a number disparity, but that's on top of the looks issue.

The looks issue is a result of the numbers disparity.

 

[78980n]

There is a number disparity, but that's on top of the looks issue.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Its over if you are not at least 6"5 and have a 8+/10 face

There is a number disparity, but that's on top of the looks issue.

This is very unsettling . Tell the mods to sticky this

@Master?

It's right that we have too much competition, but Foid still rejects me if there was none because of muh height.

 

[Robtical]

I looked at the statistics and even in that age range you will have overproportionally many males competing.

Most of those "competitors" are orbiting cucks who inflate used whore's egos and make it easier for them to get chad dick. So pathetic cucks and manipulative whores are the reason we have an imbalance in the sex market, not just "numbers."

 

[virgin4life]

Most of those "competitors" are orbiting cucks who inflate used whre's egos and make it easier for them to get chad dick. So pathetic cucks and manipulative whores are the reason we have an imbalance in the sex market, not just "numbers."

I think the numbers are the reason why those cucks exist. It is a necessity that some guys will find no partner. Therefore some of them go crazy and turn into cucks.

 

[Robtical]

It is a necessity that some guys will find no partner.

Only a very small number at the most if things weren't cucked. Not 30%+ of men not being able to have sex in the past year.

Therefore some of them go crazy and turn into cucks.

We should be making fun of those cucks and shaming them, not giving them excuses for their cucked faggotry.

 

[Dark-Hatred]

Even if it is a numbers game, I still think it's both that and looks / social status. If your not a 8+/10 it's pretty much over.

 

[Deleted member 19546]

58.53 male singles competing over 9.33 female singles.

Round it to 60 and 10.

One foid per 6 men

1 / 6 = 0.1666 = 16.66%

This is the percentage of men who will get a female partner and of course women will pick the highest so:

You have to be amongst the top 17% to have a chance.

 

[virgin4life]

Only a very small number at the most if things weren't cucked. Not 30%+ of men not being able to have sex in the past year.

Well this only confirms my numbers. If 45% of the population are singles and out of those 85% are male then that makes sense, doesn't it?

You have to be amongst the top 17% to have a chance.

Actually since many foids don't even want a partner the percentage is probably worse.

 

[Robtical]

If 45% of the population are singles and out of those 85% are male then that makes sense, doesn't it?

Just because you're single doesn't mean you can't get sex.

 

[Firefly]

True, we are not actually ugly it's just that there are better looking men competing against us.

 

[Deleted member 19756]

I thought that most countries in the world had more females than males

List of sovereign states by sex ratio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[virgin4life]

Just because you're single doesn't mean you can't get sex.

Well with a 6 to 1 ratio it means a lot of men can't get sex... But yeah feminist propaganda also plays a role in this.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

I am sceptical. As the total population consists roughly of both sexes to equal parts and most couples are hetero (meaning one man one woman) this feels wrong.

in your presented age demographic percentually more women are in a relationship. How does this add up in the other demographics? More men are together with what, potatoes? Let's see:

95 million Women over 35, 45 million men over 50

140 in total
60%: 84 million in relationships, 42 million of each sex.

Only 3 million male singles over 50, but 48 million women over 35? (Just don't die theory and later bang a woman between 35 and 50? )

I mean there has to be a certain linearity as well. Where did all the relationships go suddenly?

I personally don't see it. You theory is to far dependent on shoving age groups liberally together and applying a statistical percentage without data that breaks down the demographic further.

We need more data on this.

My brain is fried now. Maybe I am wrong. IDK.

But the general idea is correct anyway. Women are picky, to many men are born, men date down agewise, men die earlier.

 

[Robtical]

Well with a 6 to 1 ratio it means a lot of men can't get sex

How is it 6 to 1? There are around 50% foids and 50% males, plus a big portion of the men are gay. There are no lesbians, only foids who refuse to live with a betabux and are too ugly to fuck chads.

 

[virgin4life]

I am sceptical. As the total population consists roughly of both sexes to equal parts and most couples are hetero (meaning one man one woman) this feels wrong.

in your presented age demographic percentually more women are in a relationship. How does this add up in the other demographics? More men are together with what, potatoes? Maybe calculate those to see if the numbers add up.

95 million Women over 35, 45 million men over 50

140 in total
60%: 84 million in relationships, 42 million of each sex.

Only 3 million male singles over 50, but 48 million women over 35?

I personally don't see it. You theory is to far dependent on shoving age groups liberally together and applying a statistical percentage without data that breaks down the demographic further.

We need more data on this.

My brain is fried now. Maybe I am wrong. IDK.

But the general idea is correct anyway. Women are picky, to many men are born, men date down agewise, men die earlier.

The only point where I was relying on speculation was when I assumed that men from 18 to 50 go for foids from 18 to 35. Well maybe my numbers are too high. But even if the average age difference is just 2-3 years on average it already means that there are 2-4 million too many men. Also I have looked at the single stats of some countries and they are usually 2 to 1. For example if you look up statistics on German singles you will see that 2 out of 3 German singles are male. So that confirms my general idea. Maybe I have exaggerated it a bit but even a 2 to 1 ratio explains a lot.

How is it 6 to 1? There are around 50% foids and 50% males, plus a big portion of the men are gay. There are no lesbians, only foids who refuse to live with a betabux and are too ugly to fuck chads.

Because men go for younger women. A 60 year old dude is not gonna go for a 60 year old foid will he? He is at least going for a 55 year old. Even if the average age difference is only 2 years then that creates a massive issue. I will have to research that more precisely.

 

[kingturtle]

I think somewhere, I think at #3, your math is a bit off. I'll think about it. I think that is too high.

However, you are basically correct. It is very good reasoning here, and I was actually thinking about making a similar post. A very large part of the incel problem is that we just have too many men for the number of females. And toss in polygamy (several foids sharing a chad) and single mothers (30 years ago, the 16 million single mothers we have would all be partnered up with a man, now those single mothers are sharing a chad), and you can see that the numbers are very, very bad. We just have too many men.

Check out this article in unz review. It is saying what you are saying, with maps and everything.

Young, Male, and Single

It sucks being young, male, and single. Don't think so? Go to the Interactive Singles Map of the United States and see how it looks for the 20 to 39 age group. Almost everywhere single men outnumber single women. And the real picture is worse. For one thing, the imbalance is greater among...

www.unz.com

The situation is certainly very, very bleak.

I think the mods should pin this thread. It shows that even if we were all good-looking, we would still have incels; it is just a numbers thing.

 

[Deleted member 19756]

The numbers game is very interesting. I've found anecdotal evidence that contradicts some numbers. I think there are many factors including race and economic status. The whole lookism thing is a partial cope and not entirely invalid. But the situation is far more complex, there's just not enough data.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

The only point where I was relying on speculation was when I assumed that men from 18 to 50 go for foids from 18 to 35. Well maybe my numbers are too high. But even if the average age difference is just 2-3 years on average it already means that there are 2-4 million too many men. Also I have looked at the single stats of some countries and they are usually 2 to 1. For example if you look up statistics on German singles you will see that 2 out of 3 German singles are male. So that confirms my general idea. Maybe I have exaggerated it a bit but even a 2 to 1 ratio explains a lot.


Because men go for younger women. A 60 year old dude is not gonna go for a 60 year old foid will he? He is at least going for a 55 year old. Even if the average age difference is only 2 years then that creates a massive issue. I will have to research that more precisely.

Right but you also assume that the percentage of people in relationships is for all age demographics a stable 60%. *Insert a joke about statistics.* Maybe it's for some higher and some lower.

But ye as I said you are generally right.