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Serious Inceldom needs to translate itself in a revolutionary movement.

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The incel problem is without any doubts a deeply rooted problem in current society, and when I say the word 'society' I'm specifically talking about the western society because that's the society I live in and the society I've been exposed to trough whole my life like most people here on this forum. When you're an incel (a real incel) you should always question yourself, your reality, and your inceldom in correlation with current society. I think being an incel and keeping it to simple with: 'mur it's all about your genetics' or 'mur stop coping' is just low IQ venting which will never contribute in curing your personal inceldom or the inceldom of other incels. Being an incel doesn't mean that you need to become a braindead venting machine, it should push us as a collective to search deeper and to find out where it really went wrong in society and what we can do to install a 'renovation' or 'restoration'.

Yes we all know the importance of genetic quality, status, money and wealth. But here I want to approach inceldom from a revolutionary standpoint of view; the interpretation of the blackpill within incels is plain wrong. Many would say blackpilled = 'giving up because there is no hope'. This is not what being blackpilled is in my opinion, being in a state of blackpilledness would be better to describe as: "Realizing a cruel harsh reality you can't do much about (on a personal lvl)." This of course in regard to the fact that your appearance is the most important factor which triggers female attraction, you can't do much about that fact and it is purely a personal problem.

But when we realize this, and we understand its (the blackpill) meaning as it should (i.e. not meaning: we need to give up on everything and just rot our lives), it then should push us to being reactionary and revolutionary. What I want to say: there is more to inceldom than just coping on a personal lvl. The world and our current civilization which reached a stage of traditional dissolution, it sunk deeper and deeper and the only thing that matters today is satisfying the materialistic need of our animalistic human nature, we've reached the lowest form of civilization by removing the goals of the ancient civilizations.

In the Islamic metaphysical thought, medieval muslim scholars came with a concept which was called: "The goals of the sharia" in Arabic: "مقاصد الشريعة " This concept however is very interesting because it's not only applied in Islamic societies, but in every traditional society including the lost Western traditional society. There are some universal values which every society agrees upon and have been applying, however 'modern' societies have totally negated these universal values, that's why interest , banks and other immoral institutes are allowed to exist, that's why faggotry, thottery and other evil which we all suffer from have been allowed to exist. There is no moral institution and no moral mechanism anymore in society which regulates it.

The 'goals' are as following:

• The preservation of the religion (tradition): The protection and preservation of the spiritual and traditional shape of society.
• The preservation of the soul: The protection and preservation of the human being (i.e. it needs food, shelter and basics)
• The preservation of the mind: The protection of the minds of the people, (think about banning drugs and other stuff that could influence the mind).
• The preservation of the offspring: The protection and preservation of the offspring and the whole reproduction cycle of the society (stable birth rates etc).
• The preservation of wealth: The protection of giving society work environment to keep such protected in order for people to be productive. (Implications: agitating thieves, frauds and so on).

These values are agreed upon by all the traditional societies, we incels are in fact a result of a society which disregarded all traditional elements and started to only care about the matter, the materialistic, the action (with disregard to contemplation). And that's why I started to hate incels who don't accept this reality, many incels are incels and they can't change that. Yet when you're an incel and you can't change that certain reality; how the fuck do you still praise current civilization? If you're an incel and you can't change that, should't that move you to the next stage of becoming a revolutionary? In my opinion; inceldom is a universal problem because society worldwide has all been transformed and or is still in transition to the worldwide globohomo degenerate 'enlightenment' ideology based society, this ideology manifests itself in societies by: liberalism, freethinking, libertarian-ism, humanism and so go on.

We need to think about current reality and start to decide if we want to take inceldom to a new level; from a stage of it being just a hypothetical 'finding' to it becoming a revolutionary wave pushing society to make drastic changes.
 
With all due respect, politicizing inceldom is cringe. We're just genetic trash. Accept it.
 
going to read this later, but seems high iq
 
OP is a modern day philosopher. Hats off to you sir.
 
The % of people that say they are incel is very low, we are already trying to get shut down but the media and other factors.

If the "movement" got bigger no doubt it would be oppressed harder than it is already.
 
What would be the very first few steps in making incels a collective that had to be taken seriously?
 
I don't think inceldom itself will become a revolutionary movement. What will rather happen is that different subsections of incels will start adhering to already existing revolutionary ideologies after which one of them "wins" and shapes society to their desire. So for example, we've already seen muslim ethnics in Europe going to the middle-east to become jihadists and we'll probably see more white incels in the near future taking the path of the NZ shooter and becoming radical white nationalists en masse. Maybe we'll also see other religious movements like hardcore christians or pagan-centric white nationalists spring up as well.

But I don't think inceldom can really be converted into a movement of its own because the reasons for us being incel varies too much and we may sympathise with different ideologies. But I do know that we're going to see some sort of fascist-esque movement take control over western society in the near future, be that islamo-centric, christian-centric, national-socialist or non-racist fascism (like what they had in South-America) and this movement will get rid of the sexual degeneracy and reestablish the patriarchy. Because that is what happens to all societies with a surplus of single, sexually frustated men eventually.
 
With all due respect, politicizing inceldom is cringe. We're just genetic trash. Accept it.
If you want to die as a second class citizen who never had the will to revolt that's your business. Feminism has labeled you as trash and you obediently accept it.
 
We would lose in any type of societal structure or hierarchy. Incels have no reproductive value, and thus no societal worth. The failo effect is real.
 
The % of people that say they are incel is very low, we are already trying to get shut down but the media and other factors.

If the "movement" got bigger no doubt it would be oppressed harder than it is already.
This is true. Idk other incel in my entire life and at this very moment.
So a revolution looks imposible to me.

Off course we'll be in worst category that KKK.
 
If you want to die as a second class citizen who never had the will to revolt that's your business. Feminism has labeled you as trash and you obediently accept it.
Females have deemed you trash because they're not attracted to you. Biology is biology. Fighting feminism won't make females want to fuck you. It's over for politicopers.
 
This is true. Idk other incel in my entire life and at this very moment.
So a revolution looks imposible to me.

Off course we'll be in worst category that KKK.
No doubt about it, the media will do its hardest to portray us even worse than now.. and its already pretty bad as of today.


There is no doubt that alot of men are getting blackpilled, but its a slow pace..but very steady.
 
With all due respect, politicizing inceldom is cringe. We're just genetic trash. Accept it.
Not all incels are truecels. Many normies are affected by gynocentrism and feminism. Hell, even chads and chadlites are (albeit to a much lesser degree). Inceldom is a symptom of a much greater problem, and I agree with the OP.
 
No doubt about it, the media will do its hardest to portray us even worse than now.. and its already pretty bad as of today.


There is no doubt that alot of men are getting blackpilled, but its a slow pace..but very steady.
Yes, one thing is that the normies get blackpilled and another one is that they have sex.

The thing that can help us , is that the standards of the foids still get higger and the mayority or at least half of normies males don't get sex for the things start to get on our side. Without sex they can become one of us.
 
Females have deemed you trash because they're not attracted to you. Biology is biology. Fighting feminism won't make females want to fuck you. It's over for politicopers.
Females are naturally attracted to men with power because of their hypergamous nature so if you are at the forefront of an uprising and become a high-ranking leader of your country then you will find someone who is attracted either because of your power, money or your violent history. Just look at men like Stalin, Hitler, Kim Jong Un, do they look very attractive to you? Most of them were manlets as well. Yet women loved them because they were the most powerful of their respective nations.
 

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Not all incels are truecels. Many normies are affected by gynocentrism and feminism. Hell, even chads and chadlites are (albeit to a much lesser degree). Inceldom is a symptom of a much greater problem, and I agree with the OP.
Massive cope. Everyone tries to snatch the best looking person they can. It's the nature of female sexual selection that's the problem.
 
Females have deemed you trash because they're not attracted to you. Biology is biology. Fighting feminism won't make females want to fuck you. It's over for politicopers.
And why do you think it ends there? If they won't fuck us the entire social contract is dead and no laws or morals has importance anymore, women are weak and will get raped and killed without the protection from society, they depend on the collectivism we have created and if they pull out from it then we have no reason to keep going. Reverting back to a 100% natural state where biological urges is law would be more devastating for them than for us.
 
Everyone tries to snatch the best looking person they can. It's the nature of female sexual selection that's the problem.
I can agree with that. However, it was contained much better back in the day. Women did not have near the amount of power that they do now.
 
And why do you think it ends there? If they won't fuck us the entire social contract is dead and no laws or morals has importance anymore, women are weak and will get raped and killed without the protection from society, they depend on the collectivism we have created and if they pull out from it then we have no reason to keep going. Reverting back to a 100% natural state where biological urges is law would be more devastating for them than for us.
High IQ . For foids is more convenient a society than the natural option like you said
 
I can agree with that. However, it was contained much better back in the day. Women did not have near the amount of power that they do now.
Lol let's compel women who aren't actually attracted to us and will never actually love us to be with us by depriving them of rights. Carrot IQ
 
Lol let's compel women who aren't actually attracted to us and will never actually love us to be with us by depriving them of rights. Carrot IQ
I'm not saying they ever truly loved us. I'm saying that depriving them of power is better for society.
 
I'm not saying they ever truly loved us. I'm saying that depriving them of power is better for society.
Why exactly? Because they won't fuck you? That's actually pathetic.
 
Why exactly? Because they won't fuck you? That's actually pathetic.
No, because women don't have the mental capacity to handle power. And under our current system, we are unable to punish them equally to men.
 
No, because women don't have the mental capacity to handle power. And under our current system, we are unable to punish them equally to men.
Any evidence for this? There are legitimate neurological differences between males and females, sure, but not like this. Women can leaders as well.
I know this is rooted in your frustration because it is frustrating to be undesirable but you shouldn't let that fuck up your politics.
 
liberalism, freethinking, libertarian-ism, humanism
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Any evidence for this? There are legitimate neurological differences between males and females, sure, but not like this. Women can leaders as well.
I know this is rooted in your frustration because it is frustrating to be undesirable but you shouldn't let that fuck up your politics.
Studies on human brain size, largely based on participants of European ancestry, tend to find an average adult brain volume of 1260 cubic centimeters (cm3) for men and 1130 cm3 for women. There is, however, substantial variation between individuals;[1] one study of 46 adults, aged 22–49 years and of mainly European descent, found an average brain volume of 1273.6 cm3 for men, with a range of 1052.9 to 1498.5 cm3, and 1131.1 cm3 for women, with a range of 974.9 to 1398.1 cm3.[2]
 
I don't think inceldom itself will become a revolutionary movement. What will rather happen is that different subsections of incels will start adhering to already existing revolutionary ideologies after which one of them "wins" and shapes society to their desire. So for example, we've already seen muslim ethnics in Europe going to the middle-east to become jihadists and we'll probably see more white incels in the near future taking the path of the NZ shooter and becoming radical white nationalists en masse. Maybe we'll also see other religious movements like hardcore christians or pagan-centric white nationalists spring up as well.

But I don't think inceldom can really be converted into a movement of its own because the reasons for us being incel varies too much and we may sympathise with different ideologies. But I do know that we're going to see some sort of fascist-esque movement take control over western society in the near future, be that islamo-centric, christian-centric, national-socialist or non-racist fascism (like what they had in South-America) and this movement will get rid of the sexual degeneracy and reestablish the patriarchy. Because that is what happens to all societies with a surplus of single, sexually frustated men eventually.

i agree with that statement, incels themselves are to divided to form one group but incels like me (white and irreligious) would probably have to join or start a political movement with an existing ideology such as Fascism
 
The incel problem is without any doubts a deeply rooted problem in current society, and when I say the word 'society' I'm specifically talking about the western society because that's the society I live in and the society I've been exposed to trough whole my life like most people here on this forum. When you're an incel (a real incel) you should always question yourself, your reality, and your inceldom in correlation with current society. I think being an incel and keeping it to simple with: 'mur it's all about your genetics' or 'mur stop coping' is just low IQ venting which will never contribute in curing your personal inceldom or the inceldom of other incels. Being an incel doesn't mean that you need to become a braindead venting machine, it should push us as a collective to search deeper and to find out where it really went wrong in society and what we can do to install a 'renovation' or 'restoration'.

Yes we all know the importance of genetic quality, status, money and wealth. But here I want to approach inceldom from a revolutionary standpoint of view; the interpretation of the blackpill within incels is plain wrong. Many would say blackpilled = 'giving up because there is no hope'. This is not what being blackpilled is in my opinion, being in a state of blackpilledness would be better to describe as: "Realizing a cruel harsh reality you can't do much about (on a personal lvl)." This of course in regard to the fact that your appearance is the most important factor which triggers female attraction, you can't do much about that fact and it is purely a personal problem.

But when we realize this, and we understand its (the blackpill) meaning as it should (i.e. not meaning: we need to give up on everything and just rot our lives), it then should push us to being reactionary and revolutionary. What I want to say: there is more to inceldom than just coping on a personal lvl. The world and our current civilization which reached a stage of traditional dissolution, it sunk deeper and deeper and the only thing that matters today is satisfying the materialistic need of our animalistic human nature, we've reached the lowest form of civilization by removing the goals of the ancient civilizations.

In the Islamic metaphysical thought, medieval muslim scholars came with a concept which was called: "The goals of the sharia" in Arabic: "مقاصد الشريعة " This concept however is very interesting because it's not only applied in Islamic societies, but in every traditional society including the lost Western traditional society. There are some universal values which every society agrees upon and have been applying, however 'modern' societies have totally negated these universal values, that's why interest , banks and other immoral institutes are allowed to exist, that's why faggotry, thottery and other evil which we all suffer from have been allowed to exist. There is no moral institution and no moral mechanism anymore in society which regulates it.

The 'goals' are as following:

• The preservation of the religion (tradition): The protection and preservation of the spiritual and traditional shape of society.
• The preservation of the soul: The protection and preservation of the human being (i.e. it needs food, shelter and basics)
• The preservation of the mind: The protection of the minds of the people, (think about banning drugs and other stuff that could influence the mind).
• The preservation of the offspring: The protection and preservation of the offspring and the whole reproduction cycle of the society (stable birth rates etc).
• The preservation of wealth: The protection of giving society work environment to keep such protected in order for people to be productive. (Implications: agitating thieves, frauds and so on).

These values are agreed upon by all the traditional societies, we incels are in fact a result of a society which disregarded all traditional elements and started to only care about the matter, the materialistic, the action (with disregard to contemplation). And that's why I started to hate incels who don't accept this reality, many incels are incels and they can't change that. Yet when you're an incel and you can't change that certain reality; how the fuck do you still praise current civilization? If you're an incel and you can't change that, should't that move you to the next stage of becoming a revolutionary? In my opinion; inceldom is a universal problem because society worldwide has all been transformed and or is still in transition to the worldwide globohomo degenerate 'enlightenment' ideology based society, this ideology manifests itself in societies by: liberalism, freethinking, libertarian-ism, humanism and so go on.

We need to think about current reality and start to decide if we want to take inceldom to a new level; from a stage of it being just a hypothetical 'finding' to it becoming a revolutionary wave pushing society to make drastic changes.
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Women can leaders as well.

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I don't think inceldom itself will become a revolutionary movement. What will rather happen is that different subsections of incels will start adhering to already existing revolutionary ideologies after which one of them "wins" and shapes society to their desire. So for example, we've already seen muslim ethnics in Europe going to the middle-east to become jihadists and we'll probably see more white incels in the near future taking the path of the NZ shooter and becoming radical white nationalists en masse. Maybe we'll also see other religious movements like hardcore christians or pagan-centric white nationalists spring up as well.

But I don't think inceldom can really be converted into a movement of its own because the reasons for us being incel varies too much and we may sympathise with different ideologies. But I do know that we're going to see some sort of fascist-esque movement take control over western society in the near future, be that islamo-centric, christian-centric, national-socialist or non-racist fascism (like what they had in South-America) and this movement will get rid of the sexual degeneracy and reestablish the patriarchy. Because that is what happens to all societies with a surplus of single, sexually frustated men eventually.

I don't know for sure, the NZ shooter wasn't an incel (he had sex and a GF) and his reasoning was very clear, also I don't think many will follow him, sure it's possible that some will do the same but I don't believe that we're gonna witness an acceleration of shooters. Shootings have always existed and they don't do much. Inceldom however is something very interesting, when we look at the data and celibacy rates increasing rapidly then I can't think other than that the future needs to see someway a movement of incels. The movement shouldn't necessarily based upon the 'incel identity', I think it could manifest itself in something else and something more intellectual like in a movement with tendencies to the traditionalist doctrine, so even normies and non-incels are able to sympathize with incels and be a part of this movement. In the near future both normies and maybe even chadlites will transform into incels, female hypergamy has no 'borders' and is rampant at the moment.
 
I will sign up only if street-shitting is considered as an "revolutionary act" in your philosophy, otherwise good bye.
 
I will sign up only if street-shitting is considered as an "revolutionary act" in your philosophy, otherwise good bye.

Street shitters are always needed, the day we'll takeover government buildings will be the day that we need streetshitters to make a barricade of shitload to keep it safe from femoids.
 
Street shitters are always needed, the day we'll takeover government buildings will be the day that we need streetshitters to make a barricade of shitload to keep it safe from femoids.

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I'm In.
 
I don't think inceldom itself will become a revolutionary movement. What will rather happen is that different subsections of incels will start adhering to already existing revolutionary ideologies after which one of them "wins" and shapes society to their desire. So for example, we've already seen muslim ethnics in Europe going to the middle-east to become jihadists and we'll probably see more white incels in the near future taking the path of the NZ shooter and becoming radical white nationalists en masse. Maybe we'll also see other religious movements like hardcore christians or pagan-centric white nationalists spring up as well.

But I don't think inceldom can really be converted into a movement of its own because the reasons for us being incel varies too much and we may sympathise with different ideologies. But I do know that we're going to see some sort of fascist-esque movement take control over western society in the near future, be that islamo-centric, christian-centric, national-socialist or non-racist fascism (like what they had in South-America) and this movement will get rid of the sexual degeneracy and reestablish the patriarchy. Because that is what happens to all societies with a surplus of single, sexually frustated men eventually.
This is the most reasonable outcome. Sigmund Fraud referred to this phenomenon as sublimation.
 
We need a war, our country is already far too divided. War's bring resolutions to problems.
 
It would be interesting if we had our own political party and our own army of stormtroopers We could call them SS.. oh wait...
 
I don't know for sure, the NZ shooter wasn't an incel (he had sex and a GF) and his reasoning was very clear, also I don't think many will follow him, sure it's possible that some will do the same but I don't believe that we're gonna witness an acceleration of shooters.
Maybe he wasn't a good example, I think Dylan Roof was an incel though. Maybe there won't be an increase in shooters but there does seem to be an increase in youg men who sympathise with these types and to a certain degree believe that their violence was justified.
The movement shouldn't necessarily based upon the 'incel identity', I think it could manifest itself in something else and something more intellectual like in a movement with tendencies to the traditionalist doctrine, so even normies and non-incels are able to sympathize with incels and be a part of this movement. In the near future both normies and maybe even chadlites will transform into incels, female hypergamy has no 'borders' and is rampant at the moment.
Yes, which is why I mentioned ideologies like radical islam, national-socialism and fascism because those are all ideologies with a potential to build tradional societies.
 
It won't be revolutionary. Part of the life cycle is weeding out those unfit to breed. Unfortunately this "unfit to breed" target included average 5/10 men who are otherwise inteligent and decent men over the past 20 years due to technology and feminist backing allowing women to be clandestinely hypergamous and hyperselective to pick and share the top 20% > 25% of men during their teens, twenties and large part of their thirties.

Incel men will always be seen as like the 2015 Paris Terrorist attackers in the making.
 
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It would be nice but sadly we are just hopeless virgins.
 
The more mainstream we become the more hatred we'll get from normans
 
The more mainstream we become the more hatred we'll get from normans

Imagine in 5 years, all those that signed up to this forum were traced and arrested for a thought crime !!!!!:confused:
 
IQ mogs me
Imagine in 5 years, all those that signed up to this forum were traced and arrested for a thought crime !!!!!:confused:
With any luck most of us will be dead
We need a war, our country is already far too divided. War's bring resolutions to problems.
What we need to do is find an all girls school that is unproportionatly full of attractive girls and take it over and hold them all hostage until they agree to give us what’s ours
 
Any evidence for this? There are legitimate neurological differences between males and females, sure, but not like this. Women can leaders as well.
I know this is rooted in your frustration because it is frustrating to be undesirable but you shouldn't let that fuck up your politics.

Cuck detected. Of course, incels are a genetic trash lookswise. But are they equally retarded? Not. Majority of scientists, writers, philosophers (e.g Nietzsche, Kant or Newton) could be classified as incel. Not to mention that it is incels or normies (incels in denial), who have a stable job and let society function. Do you think that thuggish and uneducated chad will create enough taxes to keep society functioning (I've met a lot of chads during by lifetime and only ONE of them could be considered intelligent, another one is average mindwise, but the rest, so overwhelming majority is straight up retarded and unable to read above one book)? Of course not. And does the law of sexual selection apply to females? Also not. I've experienced it myself when I hung out with Chads on parties. Sluts, who tried to fuck them (and thanks to having vagina succeded) were FAT AS FUCK, facially average or even below (with fake-up!) and borderline retared. Their IQ level was lower than a IQ of a chimp. And yet, the unlimited freedom to fuck Chads created a situation where Chad (rarely even average intelligencewise) fucks an foid (borderline retarded). He doesn't commit, because why should he (he despises and laugh them as much as incel, this is for IT (((personality))) copers)? The foid gets pregnant (it has to happen while having THAT much casual sex) and what comes out of it? Average or below (looks of Chad alone rarely dominate the baby's genetic makeup) genetic beast (because let's face it, average is ugly for foids in XXIth century) with an IQ of a gorilla (even lower) raised by single mother (or said mother with some ultra-feminized beta cuck)? Is this situation profitable for society? I wouldn't say so. At first, looks of the baby are below foid's standards to be hot. Foids themselves create the people, who they despise alone because of their looks. At second, level of IQ decreases. Chimp-level IQ Chads outnumber even average-IQ Chads so if they breed with average (or below) foids the IQ of a result is even lower than (already low as fuck) IQ of it's parents. At third, is the child raised by single mother and having at best average looks and IQ going to develop "Chadly" (extrovert and outgoing) personality? Of course not. The mother will subconciously hate the child for not being Chad like his father (if male) or hate the child for reminding her about her glorious Chad days, which are now over (if the child is female). How it is going to affect childs personality? If male it would cause depression and self-hatred not even mildened by a discovery of blackpill (in my middle school there was a boy who was short and ugly as fuck, he was raised by a single mom and guess what? He was bullied without any mercy by Chads and Stacies). If female it would cause depression but easily cured by having sex with LOTS of Chads (even more than regular Stacies). And therefore ......……......…..CAUSING ALREADY BAD GENES TO SPREAD FURTHER AND WHAT'S MORE WORSENING THEM. The system of free female sexual selection is dysgenic as fuck (despite having a mask of eugenics) and anyone who denies it is a massive cuck. @TinyManlet5'6
 
Females have deemed you trash because they're not attracted to you. Biology is biology. Fighting feminism won't make females want to fuck you. It's over for politicopers.
They don't care about us, why should I care about what females want? Allowing females the freedom of self determination isn't something I agree with in the first place.
Any evidence for this? There are legitimate neurological differences between males and females, sure, but not like this. Women can leaders as well.
I know this is rooted in your frustration because it is frustrating to be undesirable but you shouldn't let that fuck up your politics.
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People who think that the current situation is normal and explain it with some sort of "natural selection" are delusional and know nothing about history. For one, this situation is not sustainable because of the low birth rates. Women being cum dumpsters for the top 20% of men (solely in terms of looks, something that is otherwise completely insignificant) and using contraception to not have babies during their most fertile years is an anomaly and a result of a totally degenerate and failed society. Two, this never existed in history before, the arranged marriages used to be the norm and women never had an option to choose much. What we have now has nothing to do with neither nature nor historical nor cultural norms.

The West will go down and it will happen sooner than most people expect. We just don't know yet what will replace it.

If you're an incel, you should research and explore revolutionary ideologies and work for a better world. It doesn't necessarily have to be based on your inceldom, just adhering to traditional values can be enough.
 

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