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Discussion Incel Trait: You Don't Have Political Allegiance.

Incel trait: I do have.
 
I've come to this ideology on my own, separate from external influence.
Not possible. Merely having heard of a philosophy or political ideology is enough to be influenced in some way (in favor, against, or orthogonal to both).

>Free market capitalism
You need some level of regulation, else the unholy quest for profit will turn into a cancer.

>Social Conservatism
I think history has already shown that this is better for societal unity and strength than social liberalism.

>Pro-Family Unit
Part of social conservatism.

>Anti-Welfare State
You need some kind of social welfare to help your own people in need, but not to the degree that it becomes an exploitative crutch for opportunists.

>Anti-Free-Healthcare
This is debatable, but in general, if your society is structured in such a way that the average person is unable to take care of basic needs, including healthcare, then something is fundamentally flawed.

>Pro-Government Deficit Finance (Neo-Keynesian)
Sure. Economics is just philosophy anyway, not science.

>Anti-Democracy, Support Efforts to Maintain Electoral College Systems and Rule by Minority

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE


>Environmental Consideration
Sure. You wouldn't litter and treat your own backyard as a garbage dump. This should apply to your neighbors as well.

>Strong belief in Climate Change
Operative word: Belief. The climate is always changing, but our effect on it is not even a relevant data point on the geologic time scale. We're not even a cough, as far as the planet is considered.

>Non-Progressive Tax System
Sure.

>Left-wing views on race, and racial justice issues and equal treatment of all races
Equal treatment is standard, regardless of political orientation. You seem to be suggesting that anything right of left implies unequal treatment based on race. It's based on nationality, which is normal (non-citizens don't have the same rights as citizens do, for example).

>Far-right views on foids, believe they should have no rights
Based, but we both know that this isn't realistic. Even Islam - the most based religion - gives rights to women.

>Believe in Pan-Europeanism and International Unity (globalization, globalism, etc)
"Globalization" is just code for centralized control.

>Strongly Anti-Nazi
>Strongly Anti-Communist
Sure.

>Support Funding Ukraine
OK, you're building up your NPC gauge.

>Support Tariffing China and waging Economic War like what Trump did
Not wise, but OK.

>Generally do not believe in conspiracy theories
I don't know what you think is supposed to mean.

>Strongly support War on Terror and U.S military efforts
More NPC meter gained.

>Very Pro-American
Sure.

>Support Drug Criminalization
This is consistent with social conservatism, but you have to justify the reasons for criminalizing some drugs, but not others. Is it individual health, effects on social order, both, or some other reason? We have all kinds of data that shows various kinds of personal health risks of different classes of drugs, as well as their generational effects on communities. Some drugs are objectively worse than others, while others are relatively benign, all factors considered.

>Support Academia
So long as their heads don't go so far up their own asses that they forget what the sun looks like.

>Anti-Woke
Wokeism is a cancer.

>More Funding for Universities but make them Cut the Woke Bullshit
If you want universities to cut the wokeism, then you need to cut their funding.

>Support Vaccines and Anti-Covid measures like Masking
>Anti-Mandatory Vaccines
And now your NPC meter is fully charged.
 
This is either a really good troll or this guy is has a healthy dosage of delusion.

Also calling America a western european country. Was that in error? Or a passing joke? Or simply acknowledging cultural similarities?

Bestow us with your knowledge oh wise one
 
Most niggas don't understand this, especially stormfrontcels.

As incels we'll be outcasted from everything. Political parties won't be a magic exception. Sure they'll love to take your vote but after that you'll be subhuman trash to them.
:yes:

The only viable organization is the organization of incels at the national level, wherever they are around the world.
 
politics is meaningless its all a distraction from the real people in power
 
This is either a really good troll or this guy is has a healthy dosage of delusion.

Also calling America a western european country. Was that in error? Or a passing joke? Or simply acknowledging cultural similarities?

Bestow us with your knowledge oh wise one
When did I call America a Western European country?
 
Not possible. Merely having heard of a philosophy or political ideology is enough to be influenced in some way (in favor, against, or orthogonal to both).


You need some level of regulation, else the unholy quest for profit will turn into a cancer.


I think history has already shown that this is better for societal unity and strength than social liberalism.


Part of social conservatism.


You need some kind of social welfare to help your own people in need, but not to the degree that it becomes an exploitative crutch for opportunists.


This is debatable, but in general, if your society is structured in such a way that the average person is unable to take care of basic needs, including healthcare, then something is fundamentally flawed.


Sure. Economics is just philosophy anyway, not science.



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE



Sure. You wouldn't litter and treat your own backyard as a garbage dump. This should apply to your neighbors as well.


Operative word: Belief. The climate is always changing, but our effect on it is not even a relevant data point on the geologic time scale. We're not even a cough, as far as the planet is considered.


Sure.


Equal treatment is standard, regardless of political orientation. You seem to be suggesting that anything right of left implies unequal treatment based on race. It's based on nationality, which is normal (non-citizens don't have the same rights as citizens do, for example).


Based, but we both know that this isn't realistic. Even Islam - the most based religion - gives rights to women.


"Globalization" is just code for centralized control.


Sure.


OK, you're building up your NPC gauge.


Not wise, but OK.


I don't know what you think is supposed to mean.


More NPC meter gained.


Sure.


This is consistent with social conservatism, but you have to justify the reasons for criminalizing some drugs, but not others. Is it individual health, effects on social order, both, or some other reason? We have all kinds of data that shows various kinds of personal health risks of different classes of drugs, as well as their generational effects on communities. Some drugs are objectively worse than others, while others are relatively benign, all factors considered.


So long as their heads don't go so far up their own asses that they forget what the sun looks like.


Wokeism is a cancer.


If you want universities to cut the wokeism, then you need to cut their funding.


And now your NPC meter is fully charged.


For someone with so many based opinions, you have a few NPC ones.

1) Being anti-Ukraine and anti-war on terror is as NPC as you can get. I highly recommend more research into these wars, their causes, and their motives. I haven't met anyone well-read in these wars who truly opposes them.

2) Right-wingers don't believe in equal treatment of races, they believe in racal supremacy, Aryanism, Nordicism, the idea that citizenship and nationality are inherently tied to race.

3) The reason I oppose drug legalization is because of their effects on the social order, I've seen great cities become unusable dens because of mass drug addiction. I personally don't care about individual health, in fact I'd rather people do more lethal drugs than non-lethal but dehabilitating drugs because it knocks them off the system faster.
 
Their birthrates are a lot worse than ours due to a high percentage of males relative to females. America is the only Western European country with a positive birthrate.
From what I've seen that's not true it's just the influx of immigrants keeping the population increasing
here both have 1.7
 
From what I've seen that's not true it's just the influx of immigrants keeping the population increasing
here both have 1.7
You're right actually, but it's still higher than Western Europe.
 
I'm anti-woke and in agreement with most of Ted Kazcynski's views but I have no allegiance in the sense I think society is doomed anyway and I bitterly think it deserves to fall.
 
For someone with so many based opinions, you have a few NPC ones.

1) Being anti-Ukraine and anti-war on terror is as NPC as you can get. I highly recommend more research into these wars, their causes, and their motives. I haven't met anyone well-read in these wars who truly opposes them.
JFL @ calling being against the war on terror NPC. "War on Terror" was a label for a series of hegemonic wars of influence and resources, mostly in Middle East. It was just another phase in gaining control, domestically (patriot act) and abroad. Only the biggest NPCs or US shills are in support of the "war on terror."

2) Right-wingers don't believe in equal treatment of races, they believe in racal supremacy, Aryanism, Nordicism, the idea that citizenship and nationality are inherently tied to race.
You either don't understand right-wing philosophy, or you're intentionally misrepresenting it. There's nothing about ideological conservatism that is inherently supremacist.

3) The reason I oppose drug legalization is because of their effects on the social order, I've seen great cities become unusable dens because of mass drug addiction. I personally don't care about individual health, in fact I'd rather people do more lethal drugs than non-lethal but dehabilitating drugs because it knocks them off the system faster.
I see.
 
JFL @ calling being against the war on terror NPC. "War on Terror" was a label for a series of hegemonic wars of influence and resources, mostly in Middle East. It was just another phase in gaining control, domestically (patriot act) and abroad. Only the biggest NPCs or US shills are in support of the "war on terror."
If you understood the real reason for the war on terror you'd 100% support it. It wasn't about gay marriage or giving foids rights, it was about securing resources, geopolitical influence, and toppling dictators that opposed dollar hegemony. The CIA also got secure control over the Opium trade in Afghanistan thanks to the war.
You either don't understand right-wing philosophy, or you're intentionally misrepresenting it. There's nothing about ideological conservatism that is inherently supremacist.
The essence of right-wing ideology is natural hierarchy, and race is a key component.
 
If you understood the real reason for the war on terror you'd 100% support it. It wasn't about gay marriage or giving foids rights, it was about securing resources, geopolitical influence, and toppling dictators that opposed dollar hegemony. The CIA also got secure control over the Opium trade in Afghanistan thanks to the war.
I fully understand the machinations behind the war on terror and I support none of the things you've mentioned. If you think these things are a net positive for the world, then you probably think someone like Henry Kissinger was a good man too.

Just say you're a globalist and be done with it.

The essence of right-wing ideology is natural hierarchy, and race is a key component.
The essence of right-wing ideology is conservatism, as the essence of left-wing ideology is liberalism. That's the living, breathing spirit of what it means to be right-wing. Hierarchies can emerge anywhere and is not unique to this particular brand of social and political philosophy.
 
I fully understand the machinations behind the war on terror and I support none of the things you've mentioned. If you think these things are a net positive for the world, then you probably think someone like Henry Kissinger was a good man too.
Kissenger was literally another hero of mine as a teenager.
Just say you're a globalist and be done with it.
American Imperailist, I don't believe in globalism because it seeks to remove soverign power from the American federal government.
The essence of right-wing ideology is conservatism, as the essence of left-wing ideology is liberalism. That's the living, breathing spirit of what it means to be right-wing. Hierarchies can emerge anywhere and is not unique to this particular brand of social and political philosophy.
Conservatism isn't right-wing in a true sense. American Conservatism is pro-Constitution, a classically liberal document.
 
OK, Ameritard NPC.
You're an actual nut, I have zero interest in talking to NPCs who think hating on the civilization and institutions that make them rich and prosperous makes you interesting. Everyone is mocking you.
 
You're an actual nut, I have zero interest in talking to NPCs who think hating on the civilization and institutions that make them rich and prosperous makes you interesting. Everyone is mocking you.
You're a pro-US imperialist. You're literally the villain who starts wars and creates terror groups to serve as proxy forces in geopolitically contested regions to maintain their influences in regions.

Rich and prosperous. Through what, bombing the shit out of them and installing puppets to siphon their natural resources? JFL. Please kys
 
I used to be a liberatarian\ancap, but now I realize capitalism IS marxism because both promise, hold, or allow, anyone to be anything.
I honestly and heart-feeling feel that everyone has an assigned lot in life, must stick to it, and everyone is where he\she deserves otherwise they wouldnt BE there
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im unironically a monarchist, of the Absolutist tendency to boot. yes, I know i myself wouldnt be a noble. but id own up to it. it is due and proper, Oh Universe.
 
You're a pro-US imperialist. You're literally the villain who starts wars and creates terror groups to serve as proxy forces in geopolitically contested regions to maintain their influences in regions.

Rich and prosperous. Through what, bombing the shit out of them and installing puppets to siphon their natural resources? JFL. Please kys
You realize when you are running a global empire and maintaining world peace, you sometimes need to use your big stick right? What's your alternative? Have everyone sign a contract of non-aggression? JFL
 
You said left wing race ideology so i thought you were against it.




So i assume no race mixing shall be allowed
I'm pro-eugenics, pro-racemixing, anti-womens rights, and anti-racism.
 
You realize when you are running a global empire and maintaining world peace, you sometimes need to use your big stick right? What's your alternative? Have everyone sign a contract of non-aggression? JFL
How about don't be a global asshole and invade people's homes to steal their shit.
 
How about don't be a global asshole and invade people's homes to steal their shit.
Ok, and then China and Russia and other potential powers will start to build their own empires, and now you're a far-away weak state in a world run by worse bullies.
 
Depending on who I'm talking to and what I'm saying, people have put me everywhere on the spectrum from communist to far-right Nazi, here are some of my beliefs. Because I'm an incel and will never be accepted by any group, I've come to this ideology on my own, separate from external influence.

>Free market capitalism
>Social Conservatism
>Pro-Family Unit
>Anti-Welfare State
>Anti-Free-Healthcare
>Pro-Government Deficit Finance (Neo-Keynesian)
>Anti-Democracy, Support Efforts to Maintain Electoral College Systems and Rule by Minority
>Environmental Consideration
>Strong belief in Climate Change
>Non-Progressive Tax System
>Left-wing views on race, and racial justice issues and equal treatment of all races
>Far-right views on foids, believe they should have no rights
>Believe in Pan-Europeanism and International Unity (globalization, globalism, etc)
>Strongly Anti-Nazi
>Strongly Anti-Communist
>Support Funding Ukraine
>Support Tariffing China and waging Economic War like what Trump did
>Generally do not believe in conspiracy theories
>Strongly support War on Terror and U.S military efforts
>Very Pro-American
>Support Drug Criminalization
>Support Academia
>Anti-Woke
>More Funding for Universities but make them Cut the Woke Bullshit
>Support Vaccines and Anti-Covid measures like Masking
>Anti-Mandatory Vaccines
"Support funding cuckraine" Why?????
 
Ok, and then China and Russia and other potential powers will start to build their own empires, and now you're a far-away weak state in a world run by worse bullies.
Let them. There are no good guys here. It's all different shades of evil with different flavors of empire.
 
Let them. There are no good guys here. It's all different shades of evil with different flavors of empire.
Yes, there's no good guys, so lets stop talking about moral action and instead practical action. The American Empire benefits us so lets support it. Lets oppose the sides that hate us.
 
Yes, there's no good guys, so lets stop talking about moral action and instead practical action. The American Empire benefits us so lets support it. Lets oppose the sides that hate us.
I don't support any empires.
 
Because an Empire must maintain its borders at the Frontier, especially against enemy empires.
So? They still shouldn't receive funding from jewsa. Jewsa funding them heightens tensions between us and another world superpower.
 
So? They still shouldn't receive funding from jewsa. Jewsa funding them heightens tensions between us and another world superpower.
Tensions are needed if you want to compete, you're saying just let your opponent conquer your land because standing up to them will piss them off?
 
Politics are a waste of time to make people think they're smart when they really are stupid. Most of these faggots from the left wing and these retards from the right wing Have never written a book in their lives and never read. I prefer philosophy more than politics and religion. The system is fucked anyway.
 
Politics are a waste of time to make people think they're smart when they really are stupid. Most of these faggots from the left wing and these retards from the right wing Have never written a book in their lives and never read. I prefer philosophy more than politics and religion. The system is fucked anyway.
Philosophy is for dumb people who know they're too dumb to avhieve power.
 
Politics are a waste of time to make people think they're smart when they really are stupid. Most of these faggots from the left wing and these retards from the right wing Have never written a book in their lives and never read. I prefer philosophy more than politics and religion. The system is fucked anyway.
Spot on
 
Philosophy is for dumb people who know they're too dumb to avhieve power.
True. I've always found philosophy to be a giga cope. However there's one philosophy I've always admired and it's Taoism.
 
>Free market capitalism
A totally free market inevitably leads to massive inequality and the exploitation of the people at the bottom of the socioeconomic hierarchy,
therefore i largely support keynesian economics paired with social democracy,
since in socialist economies the incentive for progress, free competition, is lost.
Every single socialist state is a failed state.

At the same time a government like the US government, which can't even provide basic healthcare to it's citizens because of muh freedom muh murica is doomed to failure.
>Social Conservatism
Again, social conservatism and a pure free-market economy is incompatible. Social conservatism requires heavy state interventions, which could cause many billion-dollar-industries to collapse or migrate into more liberal countries. The logical consequences would be high unemployment rates, high inflation and even the possibility of bursting economic bubbles and depression.

The heavy censorship that social conservatism would require would also not be compatible with free speech, to say the least...
Don't get me wrong, i fully agree with social conservatism.
>Pro-Family Unit
Based, fully agree.
>Anti-Welfare State
>Anti-Free-Healthcare
I have to disagree with you on that part, because the right to social insurances seems like a human right for me (i live in germany btw, maybe that influences my viewpoint on that matter)
>Pro-Government Deficit Finance (Neo-Keynesian)
Yeah, but there still has to be some upper echelon on government indebtness, especially concerning wars and other foreign-policy matters.
>Anti-Democracy, Support Efforts to Maintain Electoral College Systems and Rule by Minority
Elitism, which more often than not leads to a small establishment working in the interest of an international clique of billionaires and betraying their own country for foreign interests, is the definition of anti-patriotism.
>Environmental Consideration
>Strong belief in Climate Change
somewhat justified, but the "west" will not be able to stop climate change along, the biggest CO2 emmisions are still being created by china, india and other "non-western" countries.
>Non-Progressive Tax System
When low-income wage-ragies need to give away over 45% of their brutto income while the international clique of the super-rich doesn't get taxed at all the national industry is weakened, plus the purchasing power is weakened.
Additionally the middle class gets destroyed that way.
>Left-wing views on race, and racial justice issues and equal treatment of all races
The blackpill doctrine tells us equality of outcome (equity) is impossible. I'm not supporting racial segregation, and i'm all for equal rights, but forcefully pushing different races into different environments via affirmative action/"positive" racism is a step towards forced equity and socialism.
>Far-right views on foids, believe they should have no rights
Yeah, most foid rights should be removed in order to combat social decadence, but even after that there will still be incels, because foid nature is unchangable. You can't force attraction.
Plus, it would be a massive blow to the economy, since foids today are actually more successful than men.
>Believe in Pan-Europeanism and International Unity (globalization, globalism, etc)
Strongly disagree. I'm a patriot.
>Strongly Anti-Nazi
>Strongly Anti-Communist
Somewhat agree. I also don't support failed political systems.
>Support Funding Ukraine
Ukraine is a corrupt, crime ridden shithole full of far right neo nazis who planned a genocide on the russian population of donbas.
Russia is a corrupt, crime ridden shithole full of neo-nazis too, but this war was caused by a combination of western provocation and disrespect towards russia and the planned genocide that i mentioned before.
Putin was forced to act, as NATO being on his front porch + russian civilians being genocided would mean a loss of face to him and to the russian people.
I don't support putin, but I also don't support ukraine.
>Support Tariffing China and waging Economic War like what Trump did
Based.
>Generally do not believe in conspiracy theories
Many conspiracy theories in history turned out to be true, and many modern conspiracy theories sound somewhat plausible tbh.
For example the covid-lab-leak theory is basically proven at this point...
But of course flat-earth-lizard-jew-type theories are ridiculous.
>Strongly support War on Terror and U.S military efforts
>Very Pro-American
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>Support Drug Criminalization
>Support Academia
>Anti-Woke
>More Funding for Universities but make them Cut the Woke Bullshit
Based, totally agree
>Support Vaccines and Anti-Covid measures like Masking
>Anti-Mandatory Vaccines
Somewhat based, only I don't support covid vaccines, especially the Pfizer and Moderna ones:feelssus:
 

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