Brutal Incel Trait: Despite bullying being strongly hereditary, you were bullied while your father was a bully

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Title. Is there any better proof that your personal genetics are utter trash than not only failing to take the school bully position you were primed to inherit from your father, but actually finding yourself on the other end of the bullying spectrum?

Both bullying and victimization, of all types but especially when it comes to physical bullying, are highly hereditary/genetic, as those two twin studies show.

Genetic contributions accounted for 62% and 77% of the variance in bullying and in victimization at pre-intervention, respectively.

Few previous studies have investigated the heritability of bullying behavior. Ball et al. (2008) found the heritability of bullying perpetration to be 61%, and Veldkamp et al. (2019) ~70%, irrespective of type of bullying. In line with these estimates, Dunbar found in her Master’s thesis a heritability of 55%. In addition, several twin studies of aggressive and antisocial behaviors, of which bullying is a specific form (Griffin & Gross, 2004), have found heritability estimates in the range of 40% to 80%

victimization of physical bullying was found to have the highest heritability when compared to, for example, verbal or social/relational bullying (Eastman et al., 2018; Veldkamp et al., 2019).

Heritability of Bullying and Victimization in Children and Adolescents: Moderation by the KiVa Antibullying Program

Phenotypic correlations between all forms of perpetration and victimization are represented in Table 2, separately for boys and girls. The correlations between perpetration and victimization for the same form of bullying were for boys 0.64, 0.65, 0.80, and 0.59 for general, verbal, physical and relational, respectively, and for girls 0.68, 0.72, 0.85, and 0.68.

In a sample of 8215 primary-school children, we showed that individual diferences in the liability to be a victim, bully, or bully-victim are mainly due to genetic diferences between children.

the genetic infuences for both boys and girls were high for all forms of perpetration (~70%), and for general-, verbal-, and physical victimization (~65%), but somewhat lower for relational victimization (55%). The correlation between bully and victim roles was~0.70. This correlation was mostly due to shared genetic factors for the verbal and physical form and mostly due to an overlap in (common and unique) environmental factors for the relational form.

Genetic and Environmental Infuences on Diferent Forms of Bullying Perpetration, Bullying Victimization, and Their Co‑occurrence

And if you think that twin studies aren't exactly it, the second one cites parent-child ones on this topic.

Being a bully or victim tend to run in families (Allison et al. 2014; Farrington 1993). First, with respect to victimization, Allison et al. (2014) showed that a parents’ past history of victimization is associated with an increased risk of their ofspring being victimized. Whereas only 25% of the parents without a past history of being bullied reported that their ofspring was victimized, in the case of parents, who had been victimized themselves, this proportion was 55%. Second, with respect to perpetration, Farrington (1993) observed a comparable inter-generational continuity. Whereas only 5.5% of the fathers who did not bully had children who bullied, 16% of the fathers who were bullies reported that their children were bullies as well. Together, these family-risk studies show that perpetration and victimization are familial, but not whether this familial transmission is genetic or environmental in nature. To determine the role of genetic and shared environmental factors, we require a genetically informative design, such as the twin design.

Curiously enough, the 70-80% heritability of physical bullying role reminds me of the heritabilities of height and weight, which are about 80% and 73% respectively. Quite an interesting coincidence that the roles of a bully and a victim are genetically determined to the same level as the two variables most important in determining who strengthmogs who. But muh, "Everybody can be a bully!" Or even better, I've seen memes where people were like, "When I was a kid I dreamed of being a teacher to punish all the bad kids, but now that I teach I can't even tell who's the bully and who the victim," yeah, sure faggot. You know exactly well who the bullies and the victims are, you just love watching the victims being humiliated as much as the bullies do.

My father is 50+-years-old and still a few years ago randomly made fun of the kid he used to bully decades ago. Meanwhile, I still sometimes have nightmares of how I was bullied in school and can't really stop thinking about it even after all this time.

Unironically this is the one thing that is actually making me reconsider my wish to have children one day. Or at least a son. Before I looked at this topic, I didn't even know how much I hated the idea of bringing a child into this world to go through what I went through. It is overwhelmingly boys who are involved in physical bullying on either side of it, while girls are mostly involved in relational bullying, which those studies note is the least heritable one. That is because the way it works, male bullies participate in physical bullying to show how much they mog weak males to females they want to attract, and the attractive females than compete for them using relational bullying to target their equally or more attractive/sexually successful competitors.

The results of the present study were largely consistent with our initial hypotheses that the frequency of physical and relational forms of bullying and victimization would be heightened when adolescents had more dating and sexual partners than their peers, due to their greater involvement in competition for mates.

As predicted, number of dating and sexual (raw analyses only) partners increased the odds of pure physical bullying, but not pure relational bullying. Furthermore, this finding applied mainly to male participants, as 79% of the pure perpetrators of physical bullying were boys, and none of the female participants in this category had any dating experiences. In addition, greater experience with dating and sexual partners did not elevate the likelihood of physical victimization for adolescent boys, in line with the contention that male perpetrators of physical bullying select easy targets to minimize the costs of their aggression, rather than aggressing against rivals of more equal status (Volk et al., 2012).

These results are consistent with previous research linking overt (including physical) bullying to greater dating behavior, particularly for adolescent boys (Connolly et al., 2000), and to research showing that a composite measure of multiple forms of bullying was related to the odds of ever having dated and number of dating partners (Volk et al., 2015).

In the domain of relational bullying, results were consistent with our expectation that adolescent girls with more dating partners would have greater odds of being a bully-victim, due to their greater involvement in intrasexual competition for mates. As prior theory and research shows, participation in intrasexual competition provides an incentive, particularly for adolescent girls, to use relational bullying to thwart rivals by reducing their appeal to the opposite sex (e.g., Arnocky & Vaillancourt, 2012; Fisher & Cox, 2009; Gallup et al., 2011) and to increase their own dating popularity and dating opportunities (Arnocky & Vaillancourt, 2012; Gallup et al., 2011; Houser et al., 2015; Pellegrini & Long, 2003). Conversely, by virtue of having more dating partners, adolescent girls who are more involved in intrasexual competition may be perceived by female peers as rivals and, due to this competitor effect, be more highly victimized by relational bullying.

Physical and Relational Bullying and Victimization: Differential Relations With Adolescent Dating and Sexual Behavior

Since any daughters I would theoretically have would be all but guaranteed to be fem"cel"-tier, there would be no chance of Stacies having to bully them out of dating and fucking the athletic Chad bullies.

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[Mecoja]

My dad was low inhib fuckboy, im the complete opposite jfl. He was making fun of guys like me.

 

[Gendocel]

Bullying makes me want to see humanity die in a hellfire

I'm not into that monkey shit

 

[Sewer Sloth]

I was verbally bullied in high school whilst i think my dad was never bullied in school
I'm also sure people made fun of me in private too during middle school and high school

 

[Mr. Agent Clark]

Pin this. I was physically and verbally bullied. My dad was a bully and he told me how he used to bully a kid of his school.

 

[JealousyandHatred]

My father is 50+-years-old and still a few years ago randomly made fun of the kid he used to bully decades ago. Meanwhile, I still sometimes have nightmares of how I was bullied in school and can't really stop thinking about it even after all this time.

That’s insane. I would slap the shit out of that senile asshole.

 

[Lazyandtalentless]

Bullying makes me want to see humanity die in a hellfire

I'm not into that monkey shit

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

My dad was low inhib fuckboy, im the complete opposite jfl. He was making fun of guys like me.

Exactly my case as well.

Bullying makes me want to see humanity die in a hellfire

I'm not into that monkey shit

Based.

 

[Wolnir]

I'm the clone of my dad, I look just like him. I don't know if he got bullied but he said that he was a mute in school just like I was. He has a fucked up nose from being beaten up in his younger years, he said some roid head stamped on his face on a night out and it permanently fucked his nose up. I've also been beaten up and got my tooth chipped.

 

[underballer]

violence should always be the response to bullying

 

[PersonalityChad]

Can't relate tbh, my dad was too autistic to be a bully

 

[Apex.Koala]

Got worse actually. My own MTN big brother has always been a bully to me and to school

 

[DarkStar]

Title. Is there any better proof that your personal genetics are utter trash than not only failing to take the school bully position you were primed to inherit from your father, but actually finding yourself on the other end of the bullying spectrum?

That's brutal as fuck.

According to some normshits out there, mainly some "woke" white foid with blue hair who studies crystals, this is "karma" and you deserve it

Yet the attractive jock just had a "douchebag" and "abusive" dad.

Both bullying and victimization, of all types but especially when it comes to physical bullying, are highly hereditary/genetic, as those two twin studies show.

That's pretty brutal tbh.

I would have expected verbal/social types of it to be more heritable, but since for most of our history humans had raw physical strength govern them, it isn't too far fetched.

I'm not sure where things fucked up for me, but I guess being an IVFcel doesn't help.

Heritability of Bullying and Victimization in Children and Adolescents: Moderation by the KiVa Antibullying Program





Genetic and Environmental Infuences on Diferent Forms of Bullying Perpetration, Bullying Victimization, and Their Co‑occurrence

And if you think that twin studies aren't exactly it, the second one cites parent-child ones on this topic.



Curiously enough, the 70-80% heritability of physical bullying role reminds me of the heritabilities of height and weight, which are about 80% and 73% respectively. Quite an interesting coincidence that the roles of a bully and a victim are genetically determined to the same level as the two variables most important in determining who strengthmogs who.

Ah, but ofc ": Correlation doesn't equal causation! Other factors are at play!"

But muh, "Everybody can be a bully!" Or even better, I've seen memes where people were like, "When I was a kid I dreamed of being a teacher to punish all the bad kids, but now that I teach I can't even tell who's the bully and who the victim," yeah, sure faggot.

They clearly can tell, especially since the "hierarchies" established within HS tend to oftentimes translate later on down the line. In fact, this prompted me to search for something which could be a good thread.

You know exactly well who the bullies and the victims are, you just love watching the victims being humiliated as much as the bullies do.

They were the normies who sat back and laughed as the victim was humiliated, and then gaslight him with blue pilled-tier shit such as ": people do like you bro! It was a joke!"

I think this is one of the reasons as to why I always say jokes are/can be a window or insight into stuff in a way. People would attempt to gaslight me into thinking I was their "friend" with that method, when in reality they saw me as a l0lcow to use as a literal living meme.

My father is 50+-years-old and still a few years ago randomly made fun of the kid he used to bully decades ago.

Ah, and they say no one gives a shit and forgets half of HS.

Meanwhile, I still sometimes have nightmares of how I was bullied in school and can't really stop thinking about it even after all this time.

I still have flashbacks and also recall what happened to me at times, it hurts a lot less now but it still pains me.

Unironically this is the one thing that is actually making me reconsider my wish to have children one day. Or at least a son. Before I looked at this topic, I didn't even know how much I hated the idea of bringing a child into this world to go through what I went through.

This is something which has always confounded me tbh

Every man has an instinct to want to be a dad, it's our nature as humans. I also want to make the world a general "better place" but not in the moralfag sense, but what I view as pragmatic, right, and in accordance with the natural state still. But on the other, part of me doesn't want to pass on my genes -despite some insisting the cucked White gene pool needs them- due to various heritable mental issues and also this. Since I also am "non natural" I also further view me procreating as another violation.

Fuck, we really were born to suffer.

It is overwhelmingly boys who are involved in physical bullying on either side of it, while girls are mostly involved in relational bullying, which those studies note is the least heritable one.

Still surprised over this tbh, but once again it does prove that foids have it easier, due to this being the least heritable and thus easiest to handle.

That is because the way it works, male bullies participate in physical bullying to show how much they mog weak males to females they want to attract, and the attractive females than compete for them using relational bullying to target their equally or more attractive/sexually successful competitors.

Yup, it's men utilizing raw physical attraction to appeal to foids raw instincts.

Physical and Relational Bullying and Victimization: Differential Relations With Adolescent Dating and Sexual Behavior

Since any daughters I would theoretically have would be all but guaranteed to be fem"cel"-tier, there would be no chance of Stacies having to bully them out of dating and fucking the athletic Chad bullies.

Hey, that's one benefit to being sub-5 in looks.

However, true ascension(in the literal sense of it, not just being able to get sex) would amount to you being able to breed with an attractive foid and upgrade your genes.

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Good thread as always, ofc me being the master procrastinator means I arrived late- yet it is better late than never.

 

[SilverBullet]

Dad was also bullied in school but was still low inhib enough to ascend in his 20s

 

[1TZ0VER]

All I had to do was be low inhib and I wouldn't have been dehumanised and humiliated as severely as I did

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Maybe it's karma for your Dad. He was a bully, and then his offspring got bullied...

Anyways if you have an alpha dad How did he not teach you to be violent and defend yourslef?

Did he beat you making you into an abused dog like his victims? My Father and mother would hit me as a child making me weak and neurotic.

 

[CEO of beta eyes]

My dad bullied loser kids like me in school and used to get in fights a lot, meanwhile I’ve never fought anyone in my entire life

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Maybe it's karma for your Dad. He was a bully, and then his offspring got bullied...

Maybe.

Anyways if you have an alpha dad How did he not teach you to be violent and defend yourslef?

Because I'm short and an HSP who didn't mask it at all as a child (as in, I cried frequently and so on.) Prime bully target, really.

It's not really about teaching children to fight or anything, if the children have the genes for it they will simply find the place meant for them in the hierarchy.

Did he beat you making you into an abused dog like his victims? My Father and mother would hit me as a child making me weak and neurotic.

Nah, he's annoying and douchey most of the time but I can count the number of times he beat me up on a single hand and I don't think I ever cared about any of those the day after it, and my mom couldn't beat me up ever since I was like 12 or so.

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

It's not really about teaching children to fight or anything, if the children have the genes for it they will simply find the place meant for them in the hierarchy.

Disagree bro. When I was in school the popular boys tried to bully some manlet but he punched them in the face.

He lost the fight because it was 3 v 1 but he broke one of the bullys nose and they never bullied him again.

Bullys look for weak targets who are submissive and don't fight back. If you punch them and hurt them they will leave you alone.

 

[HomicidalSuicidal88]

My family is my bully

 

[BoneHermit666]

Title. Is there any better proof that your personal genetics are utter trash than not only failing to take the school bully position you were primed to inherit from your father, but actually finding yourself on the other end of the bullying spectrum?

Both bullying and victimization, of all types but especially when it comes to physical bullying, are highly hereditary/genetic, as those two twin studies show.





Heritability of Bullying and Victimization in Children and Adolescents: Moderation by the KiVa Antibullying Program





Genetic and Environmental Infuences on Diferent Forms of Bullying Perpetration, Bullying Victimization, and Their Co‑occurrence

And if you think that twin studies aren't exactly it, the second one cites parent-child ones on this topic.



Curiously enough, the 70-80% heritability of physical bullying role reminds me of the heritabilities of height and weight, which are about 80% and 73% respectively. Quite an interesting coincidence that the roles of a bully and a victim are genetically determined to the same level as the two variables most important in determining who strengthmogs who. But muh, "Everybody can be a bully!" Or even better, I've seen memes where people were like, "When I was a kid I dreamed of being a teacher to punish all the bad kids, but now that I teach I can't even tell who's the bully and who the victim," yeah, sure faggot. You know exactly well who the bullies and the victims are, you just love watching the victims being humiliated as much as the bullies do.

My father is 50+-years-old and still a few years ago randomly made fun of the kid he used to bully decades ago. Meanwhile, I still sometimes have nightmares of how I was bullied in school and can't really stop thinking about it even after all this time.

Unironically this is the one thing that is actually making me reconsider my wish to have children one day. Or at least a son. Before I looked at this topic, I didn't even know how much I hated the idea of bringing a child into this world to go through what I went through. It is overwhelmingly boys who are involved in physical bullying on either side of it, while girls are mostly involved in relational bullying, which those studies note is the least heritable one. That is because the way it works, male bullies participate in physical bullying to show how much they mog weak males to females they want to attract, and the attractive females than compete for them using relational bullying to target their equally or more attractive/sexually successful competitors.






Physical and Relational Bullying and Victimization: Differential Relations With Adolescent Dating and Sexual Behavior

Since any daughters I would theoretically have would be all but guaranteed to be fem"cel"-tier, there would be no chance of Stacies having to bully them out of dating and fucking the athletic Chad bullies.

Spoiler

@DarkStar @GeckoBus @Regenerator @Mecoja @Incline @anandkonda @Stupid Clown @Sloth Vs Koala @weaselbomber @Zer0/∞ @Sergeant Kelly @Flagellum_Dei @To koniec @reveries @daydreamER @VideoGameCoper @veryrare @Gendocel

my father was the first violent, munipulative, control freak in my life. He even now takes the piss out of everyone on TV. The result I will not be having any children and have never had a girlfreind in my life. The worst part about it is that every bully would dominate in the same way he did to me. I would try and fight back only to get physicaly dominated everytime against my will.

 

[BoneHermit666]

My dad bullied loser kids like me in school and used to get in fights a lot, meanwhile I’ve never fought anyone in my entire life

I bet he bullied you too. and boasts about his past excapades of bullying he used to do. My dad and uncle still do.

 

[BoneHermit666]

Title. Is there any better proof that your personal genetics are utter trash than not only failing to take the school bully position you were primed to inherit from your father, but actually finding yourself on the other end of the bullying spectrum?

Both bullying and victimization, of all types but especially when it comes to physical bullying, are highly hereditary/genetic, as those two twin studies show.





Heritability of Bullying and Victimization in Children and Adolescents: Moderation by the KiVa Antibullying Program





Genetic and Environmental Infuences on Diferent Forms of Bullying Perpetration, Bullying Victimization, and Their Co‑occurrence

And if you think that twin studies aren't exactly it, the second one cites parent-child ones on this topic.



Curiously enough, the 70-80% heritability of physical bullying role reminds me of the heritabilities of height and weight, which are about 80% and 73% respectively. Quite an interesting coincidence that the roles of a bully and a victim are genetically determined to the same level as the two variables most important in determining who strengthmogs who. But muh, "Everybody can be a bully!" Or even better, I've seen memes where people were like, "When I was a kid I dreamed of being a teacher to punish all the bad kids, but now that I teach I can't even tell who's the bully and who the victim," yeah, sure faggot. You know exactly well who the bullies and the victims are, you just love watching the victims being humiliated as much as the bullies do.

My father is 50+-years-old and still a few years ago randomly made fun of the kid he used to bully decades ago. Meanwhile, I still sometimes have nightmares of how I was bullied in school and can't really stop thinking about it even after all this time.

Unironically this is the one thing that is actually making me reconsider my wish to have children one day. Or at least a son. Before I looked at this topic, I didn't even know how much I hated the idea of bringing a child into this world to go through what I went through. It is overwhelmingly boys who are involved in physical bullying on either side of it, while girls are mostly involved in relational bullying, which those studies note is the least heritable one. That is because the way it works, male bullies participate in physical bullying to show how much they mog weak males to females they want to attract, and the attractive females than compete for them using relational bullying to target their equally or more attractive/sexually successful competitors.






Physical and Relational Bullying and Victimization: Differential Relations With Adolescent Dating and Sexual Behavior

Since any daughters I would theoretically have would be all but guaranteed to be fem"cel"-tier, there would be no chance of Stacies having to bully them out of dating and fucking the athletic Chad bullies.

Spoiler

@DarkStar @GeckoBus @Regenerator @Mecoja @Incline @anandkonda @Stupid Clown @Sloth Vs Koala @weaselbomber @Zer0/∞ @Sergeant Kelly @Flagellum_Dei @To koniec @reveries @daydreamER @VideoGameCoper @veryrare @Gendocel

all those who claim they have been abused while getting into fights are lying through there teeth. WE are the truly abused not them.

 

[Based NaziCel]

My dad used to be a bully and he’s still a bully today.He is a very egoistic person that has a lot of dark triad traits and he doesn’t even give an excrement about my inceldom and every problem that I’ve ever had and because of that, I was very close of either roping or ER when I was younger.

Honestly, I don’t talk to him anymore.I’m just forevER alone.

 

[Runt171]

it would be more of an incel trait for your dad to have been bullied to

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Disagree bro. When I was in school the popular boys tried to bully some manlet but he punched them in the face.

He lost the fight because it was 3 v 1 but he broke one of the bullys nose and they never bullied him again.

Bullys look for weak targets who are submissive and don't fight back. If you punch them and hurt them they will leave you alone.

Eh, I dunno. It might work for some semi-intimidating guys who the bullies weren't sure whether they could fuck with or not, but I doubt a weaker guy fighting back would do anything else than make his situation even worse. I remember getting anger/crying fits in my first year or two of elementary and trying to fight a lot of people when they were making fun of me, it actually mostly worked until one of the strongest boys there beat the shit (and will to fight) out of me once. It didn't result in anything, I was just as made fun of both before and after, same the following years I've been there.

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Disagree bro. When I was in school the popular boys tried to bully some manlet but he punched them in the face.

He lost the fight because it was 3 v 1 but he broke one of the bullys nose and they never bullied him again.

Bullys look for weak targets who are submissive and don't fight back. If you punch them and hurt them they will leave you alone.

Eh, I dunno. It might work for some semi-intimidating guys who the bullies weren't sure whether they could fuck with or not, but I doubt a weaker guy fighting back would do anything else than make his situation even worse. I remember getting anger/crying fits in my first year or two of elementary and trying to fight a lot of people when they were making fun of me, it actually mostly worked until one of the strongest boys there beat the shit (and will to fight) out of me once. It didn't result in anything, I was just as made fun of both before and after, same the following years I've been there.

 

[spudcel]

jfl my dad dangled other kids off of a 4 story stairwell for fun, he mogs me still today even tho hes fat bald barely 5'10 (im 5'6) and 50something

 

[BoneHermit666]

it would be more of an incel trait for your dad to have been bullied to

nope your father is the first bully and abuser in your life.

 

[BoneHermit666]

jfl my dad dangled other kids off of a 4 story stairwell for fun, he mogs me still today even tho hes fat bald barely 5'10 (im 5'6) and 50something

how does he mog you?

 

[Sergeant Kelly]

I can relate to this a lot.

My father left home for military dormitory when he was 15. He's high IQ - he aced math there and a little later ended up getting IT education, he has three different majors done in total. He was very physically capable - had good scores on military physical tests and won a few prizes from small-scale combat sports tournaments when he was young. Couple of years ago we went to boxing classes together for a few months and guy who was teaching there commended him for his coordination and told him he's a natural. He's very cocky by nature, doesn't have problems interacting with other people. Sometimes he tells stories of insane shit he did with his colleagues in dormitory - drinking, breaking the rules, pranking around etc. (which, while funny to listen to, make my fucking blood boil when I remmeber that I wasn't let go from the house for shit like poor grades at school, had to make a raport of who I'm with where and what their contact info is every time I wanted to go out somewhere and had my mother go into manic panic and spam my phone and guilt trip me every time I didn't return to home before 9 p.m. up until like two years ago. I'm fucking 25 lmao. I still can't drink a beer at home or just take a trip on my own to public pool or somewhere without my mother going into maniacal panic).

Now- my mother is non-NT (sometimes I can see people reacting weirdly to shit she's saying in spite of her being a woman), has poor memory, has poor coordination, has a lot of health conditions, neurotic, meek, naive, has moody and depressive personality and never really did anything in her life other than work in education for a few years.

Guess who I inherited most of my traits from?

Only thing I have from my father is tendency for acting choleric thanks to which I developed neuralgic pains two years ago, and a bit above-average IQ which is nothing but a curse when you're husk devoid of any enjoyable experiences in life.