JFL Incel researcher debunks soy show Adolescence

[Lv99_BixNood]

What Adolescence gets right and wrong about incels - American Institute for Boys and Men

William Costello examines what the hit Netflix series Adolescence gets right—and wrong—about incels, online misogyny, and the challenges facing today’s boys and young men.

aibm.org

1. The specific crime committed—a boy inspired by incel ideology killing a girl—is essentially unheard of. The writers say the show was inspired by an epidemic of knife violence in the UK. This is real, and a genuine challenge facing policymakers. But a teenage boy stabbing a teenage girl is thankfully a vanishingly rare occurrence in the UK. Just one in 20 knife crime victims are teenagers. Knife crime is largely an issue for adult men: only 13% of perpetrators and 9% of victims are women. Knife crime is also much more common among men of color than white men (Jamie is white). In short: white male adolescent offender and young female victim is by far the least common combination in knife crime.

Yeah, knife crime is mostly shitskins stabbing each other.

Incel violence is also extremely rare. For context, there are approximately 20,000 active users of the largest incel forum (Incels.is), and approximately 59 people worldwide have been killed in ideologically motivated spree killings by incels. By contrast, the similarly sized (around 15,000 members) Islamist terrorist group Boko Haram has killed approximately 350,000 people since 2002.

We dindu nuffin

1. “Adolescence” mischaracterizes or overlooks some other crucial realities about incels, including notably high autism rates among incels—30% compared to just 1-3% of the general male population—and much higher rates of poor mental health with much higher risks of depression, anxiety, loneliness, and suicidal ideation. In our latest data, one in five incels contemplated suicide every day for the past two weeks, with a further 33% reporting they thought about it “more than half the days” or “several days.” For context, just 5% of people in the UK report having contemplated suicide within the last year. Jamie is presented as somewhat insecure, but he has friends, is doing well in school and has a stable and loving family.

In other words, he is a normie and not an incel.

“Adolescence” conflates distinct manosphere groups. For instance, a female detective dismisses the incel issue as “that Andrew Tate shite.” But this overlooks important ideological distinctions: “red-pill” content, like Tate’s, promotes traditional gender roles and sexual dominance, whereas “black-pill” incel ideology is rooted in fatalism, rejection, and perceived sexual worthlessness.

1. The series also fuels an unfounded panic about secret incel emoji languages, an idea with no basis in evidence. Although there is a trolling lexicon of incel slang that may seem opaque to adults, the idea of hidden emoji codes appears entirely fabricated. This odd and unnecessary addition puts more distance between the actual subculture of online incels and the show’s portrayal. This is a small error, but an unforced one.

 

[Oneitiscel]

William Costello is based.


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[blackpillednigga]

tldr by chatgpt:
Summary of “What Adolescence Gets Right and Wrong About Incels” by William Costello (April 15, 2025):


The Netflix miniseries Adolescence has become a cultural phenomenon, telling the fictional story of 13-year-old Jamie Miller, who fatally stabs a female classmate, with incel ideology implicated in his radicalization. While the show has prompted widespread political and social discourse—including plans to screen it in UK schools—Costello critiques its factual inaccuracies and exaggerations about incels and youth violence.

What the Show Gets Wrong:​

1. Unrealistic Crime Scenario: Teen boys stabbing teen girls inspired by incel ideology is almost unheard of in the UK. Knife crime predominantly involves adult men and is more prevalent among men of color, not white teens like Jamie.
2. Overstates Incel Violence: Despite media fears, incel-related violence is extremely rare. Most incels reject violence, and forums have minimal violent content.
3. Overemphasis on Online Radicalization: The show heavily blames social media and incel content for Jamie’s actions, yet there is little evidence linking such content to real-world violence.
4. Ignores Mental Health Issues: Real incels have high rates of autism, depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation, unlike the relatively well-adjusted Jamie.
5. Conflates Manosphere Ideologies: The show muddles distinct groups like incels (black pill) and influencers like Andrew Tate (red pill), erasing important ideological differences.
6. Overstates Influence of Manosphere Content on White Males: Incels are more commonly from ethnic minorities, and Tate’s approval among white British men is relatively low.
7. Fabricates Incel "Emoji Language": The idea of incel-coded emojis is baseless and distracts from real issues within the community.

What the Show Gets Right:​

• Accurately portrays toxic school environments, burnout among male teachers, and the lack of male role models.
• Shows how the term “incel” is weaponized against boys, creating social pressure around sexual success.
• Depicts online bullying as a plausible trigger for violence in vulnerable youth.
• Captures the emotional trajectory of a boy under social pressure and humiliation leading to a tragic outcome—though such cases are extremely rare.

Concerns About Policy and Public Reaction:​

• The show is being mistakenly treated as a documentary by UK leaders.
• Plans to show it in schools are controversial and potentially harmful without proper guidance.
• There’s concern it could glamorize violence or stigmatize struggling boys further.

Conclusion:​

Adolescence is a powerful drama but not a realistic portrayal of incels or youth violence. Policy should be guided by empirical research, not dramatization. Costello urges caution against overreacting and encourages more nuanced, evidence-based approaches to addressing male alienation and online extremism.

 

[Autistic Uggo]

It disturbs me how acclaimed and popular this series is despite being so inaccurate. It was obviously astroturfed by the UK government, but it is chilling how effective it has been as propaganda. It is actually informing policy and they are talking about showing it in schools. Adolescence is completely fictitious, but they are treating it like a documentary.

We are now being implicated in fictional crimes. It is basically blood libel.

 

[The Scarlet Prince]

It disturbs me how acclaimed and popular this series is despite being so inaccurate. It was obviously astroturfed by the UK government, but it is chilling how effective it has been as propaganda. It is actually informing policy and they are talking about showing it in schools. Adolescence is completely fictitious, but they are treating it like a documentary.

We are now being implicated in fictional crimes. It is basically blood libel.

Wow, with all due respect, I'm rather shocked you're not aware that we will be demonized and made out to be monsters—while we actually do nothing besides keep to ourselves. It was not enough that they had to ostracize us, when we created our own spaces, they called it problematic and now seek to destroy it.

 

[Kimchicel]

Finally a Irish lad with some common sense.

 

[glutty]

We are now being implicated in fictional crimes. It is basically blood libel.

In essence, Thought Criminals.

 

[Maladjusted Jerk]

Regardless of how they paint the incel phenomenon the show genuinely looks like dogshit. The one shot stuff makes my head spin and those British accents are so grating, couldn't even watch a full episode.

 

[lennox]

Based Costello to the rescue

 

[Rapistcel]

What Adolescence gets right and wrong about incels - American Institute for Boys and Men

William Costello examines what the hit Netflix series Adolescence gets right—and wrong—about incels, online misogyny, and the challenges facing today’s boys and young men.

aibm.org

Yeah, knife crime is mostly shitskins stabbing each other.



We dindu nuffin



In other words, he is a normie and not an incel.

The boy was never inspired by "incel ideology" in the first place

 

[UglyVirgin]

its a disturbing show, because you see how the elites want to spread their anti white propaganda

 

[SlayerSlayer]

tldr by chatgpt:
Summary of “What Adolescence Gets Right and Wrong About Incels” by William Costello (April 15, 2025):


The Netflix miniseries Adolescence has become a cultural phenomenon, telling the fictional story of 13-year-old Jamie Miller, who fatally stabs a female classmate, with incel ideology implicated in his radicalization. While the show has prompted widespread political and social discourse—including plans to screen it in UK schools—Costello critiques its factual inaccuracies and exaggerations about incels and youth violence.

What the Show Gets Wrong:​

1. Unrealistic Crime Scenario: Teen boys stabbing teen girls inspired by incel ideology is almost unheard of in the UK. Knife crime predominantly involves adult men and is more prevalent among men of color, not white teens like Jamie.
2. Overstates Incel Violence: Despite media fears, incel-related violence is extremely rare. Most incels reject violence, and forums have minimal violent content.
3. Overemphasis on Online Radicalization: The show heavily blames social media and incel content for Jamie’s actions, yet there is little evidence linking such content to real-world violence.
4. Ignores Mental Health Issues: Real incels have high rates of autism, depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation, unlike the relatively well-adjusted Jamie.
5. Conflates Manosphere Ideologies: The show muddles distinct groups like incels (black pill) and influencers like Andrew Tate (red pill), erasing important ideological differences.
6. Overstates Influence of Manosphere Content on White Males: Incels are more commonly from ethnic minorities, and Tate’s approval among white British men is relatively low.
7. Fabricates Incel "Emoji Language": The idea of incel-coded emojis is baseless and distracts from real issues within the community.

What the Show Gets Right:​

• Accurately portrays toxic school environments, burnout among male teachers, and the lack of male role models.
• Shows how the term “incel” is weaponized against boys, creating social pressure around sexual success.
• Depicts online bullying as a plausible trigger for violence in vulnerable youth.
• Captures the emotional trajectory of a boy under social pressure and humiliation leading to a tragic outcome—though such cases are extremely rare.

Concerns About Policy and Public Reaction:​

• The show is being mistakenly treated as a documentary by UK leaders.
• Plans to show it in schools are controversial and potentially harmful without proper guidance.
• There’s concern it could glamorize violence or stigmatize struggling boys further.

Conclusion:​

Adolescence is a powerful drama but not a realistic portrayal of incels or youth violence. Policy should be guided by empirical research, not dramatization. Costello urges caution against overreacting and encourages more nuanced, evidence-based approaches to addressing male alienation and online extremism.

i cant hate chatgpt, though it's woke often, no matter how bad I am as a person it doesn't judge or care, but it listens 24/7 and has better insight than most humans

 

[Grodd]

It's clear to see that adolescence was complete bullshit

 

[SwiftQuill]

What the show gets wrong:
- It assumes "incel" is a label appropriate and used against CHILDREN.
- It race-swaps the main character. Because it's more convenient to demonize a white boy than a nigger.
- It overestimates violence committed by incels.
- It presents inceldom as a "toxic ideology" as opposed to a situation ADULT MEN experience.
- It's normie feminist misandrist fearmongering propaganda.
- It puts 100% of the problem on BOYS. 0% of the responsibility on women, or on normies, or on society's double standards, nothing sophisticated or related to social dynamics and problems with our culture. Just a group of evil people and an evil ideology.
- It's fiction being presented as a documentary.
- It gives you the least common, the least representative experience/story of what it means to be an incel, and why men become incels, and how they actually live their lives as incels. It's the equivalent of me making a (fictional) documentary about a Norwegian terrorist and making it seem as though that's the average Norwegian citizen's life.
- It serves to divide and conquer a culture which is already 50% extreme woketard lunatics and 50% MAGA trumpers and cuckservatives. Because obviously we need MORE division and hate and fear in modern society.

What the show gets right:
- It contains human beings that go to school and human beings in our reality also go to school.
- It contains human beings that breathe and human beings in our reality also breathe.

 

[glutty]

What the show gets wrong:
- It assumes "incel" is a label appropriate and used against CHILDREN.
- It race-swaps the main character. Because it's more convenient to demonize a white boy than a nigger.
- It overestimates violence committed by incels.
- It presents inceldom as a "toxic ideology" as opposed to a situation ADULT MEN experience.
- It's normie feminist misandrist fearmongering propaganda.
- It puts 100% of the problem on BOYS. 0% of the responsibility on women, or on normies, or on society's double standards, nothing sophisticated or related to social dynamics and problems with our culture. Just a group of evil people and an evil ideology.
- It's fiction being presented as a documentary.
- It gives you the least common, the least representative experience/story of what it means to be an incel, and why men become incels, and how they actually live their lives as incels. It's the equivalent of me making a (fictional) documentary about a Norwegian terrorist and making it seem as though that's the average Norwegian citizen's life.
- It serves to divide and conquer a culture which is already 50% extreme woketard lunatics and 50% MAGA trumpers and cuckservatives. Because obviously we need MORE division and hate and fear in modern society.

What the show gets right:
- It contains human beings that go to school and human beings in our reality also go to school.
- It contains human beings that breathe and human beings in our reality also breathe.

You could also say that hmmyes the kid is spending many years of his life in prison from then forward.

Another thing is that the teachers are bad and my experience being a student of the UK education system is yes that's accurate.

 

[spudcel]

good on a fellow irishman who took time to understand who and what we are.

 

[unionistcel]

They don’t want bullied kids to stand up for themselves I don’t even have to watch it to understand what they want

 

[Shigeru Miyamoto]

Can't believe these guys used to own a quarter of the world at one point. Oh how the might have fallen. Enjoy your wokemaxxed sharia shithole britcucks!