Serious Incel defenition exploration(not a gatekeeping thread)

[Tempus Edax Rerum]

Well, obviously Incel=Involuntary Celibate.
Although, I've always assumed that Incel when extended past its literal synthesis of the two words involuntary and celibate, implied kissless virgin...or at the very least a virgin, an individual who has never had sex ..

Although, now I see that Incel is a broad term that encompasses a wide group of people. Many types or forms of involuntary celibacy are captured under the wing of the term Incel...even the types that break BLUR the line(escortcels).

For example, I consider a kissless, hugless, handholdless, virgin or abbreviated KHHV (past the age of 22) the type of Incel that is closest to the center of gravity of the term Incel.

What the Incel term really tries to capture or encompass, is a broad range of MEN that are unable to find romantic partners.

We have KHHV, KV, mentalcels, fatcels, gymcels.... Even escortcels.
What all of these groups share in common is that they can't attract a romantic partner of the opposite sex.


Please give your thoughts and inputs.

 

[Braincel14w]

Truecel is a useful term to distinguish.

 

[Blacktarpill]

escortcels

I think an incel can pay someone to lose his virginity. Where is the problem?

 

[Napoleon de Nascar]

Loliconcels

 

[Deleted member 8353]

What all of these group share in common is that they can't attract a romantic partner of the opposite sex.

I'm not sure that non virgins/escortcels are technically "incel", as sexhavers claiming that they're not having sex is contradictory. But they should definitely be allowed to post here so long as they don't brag, for the very reason that you've stated above. Loneliness is the heartbeat of inceldom.

 

[Tempus Edax Rerum]

I think an incel can pay someone to lose his virginity. Where is the problem?

He is not celibate, he is not a virgin.
Furthermore, the act of sex gets stripped of all of its higher human "spiritual" elements.
Reducing pair bonding and sex into two different categories causes man to descend into a lower form of existence, one that is animal in nature, one that is govermened by passions and emotions, rather than that of higher human faculties. This descent of man, or parting from reason permeates far deeper than just having sex with hookers...(before I continue I will just point out that regular incels HOLD ON to their higher human values, despite suffering immensely by not having sex, they choose to suffer instead of choosing to descend.)

When an individual chooses to reduce the act of sex, into strictly a physical act. Strip the act of sex of its pair boring roots...the individual becomes an agent of disorder/chaos...monogamy and pair bonding are necessary for a stable society, when an individual opts out from this model, he attacks the order of the stable society. We can see this in various studies, that when children are born out of wedlock...crime, disease, corruption, drug use, and IQ drop follow(disorder grows).

 

[Blacktarpill]

He is not celibate, he is not a virgin.

Can he get bitches for free? No. Thats it.
There is no need to make this conversation more complicated.

 

[Tempus Edax Rerum]

Can he get bitches for free? No. Thats it.
There is no need to make this conversation more complicated.

There are bigger and smaller souls on this Earth. Each type of soul falls into its corresponding category.

1. Bluepilled normies occupy a realm of of knowledge of black and white/right or wrong/, yes or no. The binary system... Or "x^1"

2. Redpilled MGTOWS occupy a realm of knowledge that consist of plane, their knowledge and understanding of the world is an order of magnitude higher than that of bluepillers, a whole plane of causes and effects is layed out before their eyes.
They occupy the x^2 realm of knowledge.

3. Blackpilled Incels occupy a whole new order of existence and understanding. Their knowledge is an order of magnitude higher even than that of a Redpiller. They see and know what the ordinary senses of lower animals cannot grasp. They occupy the x^3 realm of knowledge.

Of course Nature does give anything for free. Each order of existence, understanding and development requires that the individual foregoes a certain level of pain(negative element). That negative aspect of ones own existence is what allows the individual to move between different orders of being...

 

[Michael15651]

Truecel is a useful term to distinguish.

 

[IncelKing]

I'm not sure that non virgins/escortcels are technically "incel", as sexhavers claiming that they're not having sex is contradictory. But they should definitely be allowed to post here so long as they don't brag, for the very reason that you've stated above. Loneliness is the heartbeat of inceldom.

Yes, because resorting to having to pay for sex because the gender you're attracted to doesn't physically desire you due to your biological flaws whilst other genetically superior men are receiving it for free doesn't make you an incel.... Lowest IQ argument i've heard in a long time.

There are bigger and smaller souls on this Earth. Each type of soul falls into its corresponding category.

1. Bluepilled normies occupy a realm of of knowledge of black and white/right or wrong/, yes or no. The binary system... Or "x^1"
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2. Redpilled MGTOWS occupy a realm of knowledge that consist of plane, their knowledge and understanding of the world is an order of magnitude higher than that of bluepillers, a whole plane of causes and effects is layed out before their eyes.
They occupy the x^2 realm of knowledge.
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3. Blackpilled Incels occupy a whole new order of existence and understanding. Their knowledge is an order of magnitude higher even than that of a Redpiller. They see and know what the ordinary senses of lower animals cannot grasp. They occupy the x^3 realm of knowledge.


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Of course Nature does give anything for free. Each order of existence, understanding and development requires that the individual foregoes a certain level of pain(negative element). That negative aspect of ones own existence is what allows the individual to move between different orders of being...

Out of this world IQ!

 

[Deleted member 16455]

all ethnics (non white passing ones) are incel by default.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Yes, because resorting to having to pay for sex because the gender you're attracted to doesn't physically desire you due to your biological flaws whilst other genetically superior men are receiving it for free doesn't make you an incel.... Lowest IQ argument i've heard in a long time.

You missed my point, or perhaps I just phrased it poorly. The name "incel" makes people focus on our lack of sex, when that isn't even the main problem, and "resolving" it through paid sex fixes absolutely nothing. If you escortcel then by definition you can't be truly involuntarily
celibate, and by calling ourselves incels we give normies the wrong idea that our problems are specific to sex only, when in reality that's only a small part of the issue at hand.

We should change to an acronym for "low value males", it would make a hell of a lot more sense.

https://incels.is/threads/the-just-...pouted-at-incels-is-outright-bullshit.121569/

 

[DaveBuster]

We should change to an acronym for "low value males", it would make a hell of a lot more sense.

Lovama? Ehhhhhh

In any event, this whole thread is why I focus more on the blackpill than inceldom. Incels are the scum of society, and so they're more likely to understand the blackpill, just by being victims of its very brutal nature. But in the end, anyone can be blackpilled, and a lot of incel(tear)s are in denial about the blackpill, so there's not a hard correspondence. The blackpill is more important. I have more in common with a blackpilled Chad - who understands the advantage he has in society and knows that it could be taken away in an instant and knows that even he can run afoul of the SJW police - than I do with some bluepilled ugly manlet in denial.

Not an answer to this thread, but something I like to mention often. The vast majority of by-the-definition incels will probably always be unaware bluepillers. Spreading the message of the blackpill as wide as possible, regardless of the targets social market value, is what I aim for.

 

[IncelKing]

You missed my point, or perhaps I just phrased it poorly. The name "incel" makes people focus on our lack of sex, when that isn't even the main problem, and "resolving" it through paid sex fixes absolutely nothing. If you escortcel then by definition you can't be truly involuntarily
celibate, and by calling ourselves incels we give normies the wrong idea that our problems are specific to sex only, when in reality that's only a small part of the issue at hand.

We should change to an acronym for "low value males", it would make a hell of a lot more sense.

https://incels.is/threads/the-just-...pouted-at-incels-is-outright-bullshit.121569/

Oh ok i understand sorry for misunderstanding. And TBH i agree 100% with your proposal.