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Serious in what ways could Chads operate to redeem themselves and be a friend to non-Chads?

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I've been wondering about this. I think most Chads are oblivious and don't empathize with us. They minimize our suffering, and overestimate the effectiveness of coping mechanisms. But let's say for those who understand better than others, who more closely approach our understanding... what choices might they make to help us?

I think some of them try to do this with giving advice (ie gym-maxing, grooming). Often that stuff is passive-aggressive ("hey incel, here is advice, so stop complaining, if you fail despite it, you just didn't try hard enough!") or insincere ("hey stacy, look how nice I am towards that pathetic nerd. If I am this kind to perfect strangers, think what a great nurturer I will be to whatever babies I put into you!") but occasionally I do think it could come from a good place.

Even in that case they really over-estimate the effectiveness, because they like to think of themselves as self-made men, so they will want to under-estimate their genetics and over-estimate their efforts in attaining their present outcomes. COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE... keep in mind that Chads cope too, in a way. They want to feel like success is a goal they accomplished, not just some inheritance they lucked upon. It's part of building an ego!

Basically the "moral Chad" approach seems to be indirect: "I will influence the incel so the incel will attract women better".

I propose an alternative approach, which is more direct: influence the beckys into fucking the incels.

Not a Stacy: we have to be realistic here. She has too many options. She could find another Chad who is less demanding.

Beckies on the other hand: she has less access to Chads. When she fosters a relationship with a Chad, she will be desperate to cling to it. She will be more flexible in doing things she might not like to accomodate his whims. She'll let him stick it in her pooper, give unreciprocated oral sex, make him meals, clean his house, etc.

I have been thinking about which talks about the cruelty in which women treat ugly guys. The hostility they have in their presence.

So... all Chad has to do is CUCK HIMSELF WILLINGLY. Which really.. since it's willing and he remains alpha, isn't really 'cucking' at all. But basically, Chad should be telling Becky he will leave her unless she fucks any guy she is rude to. So she must be cordial and not abuse her femaleness as many women do to treat ugly guys shitty, to not be polite toward them.

This is basically APOLOGY SEX. I think it would be an excellent coping mechanism, an excellent gesture that I think could make us appreciate a Chad willing to make that gesture out of a generous sense of care and empathy for his common man.

Something like this won't be 100% fulfilling to us romantics, of course. After all, we know she is only doing this to please Chad, not us. It won't validate us in the way that having a girl actually WANT us will... but it's still sex, and I think it would salve the burns.

What I think would be validating about it is twofold:
1) firstly, it shows validation from Chad himself, that he is willing to use his gifts to benefit us instead of him
2) secondly, we know this humbles Becky, that this will change her image of herself. She will lose some of her arrogance now that she has been "dirtied" by fucking us.

Who knows, perhaps a good regime of this might actually make Beckys more flexible in their thinking. Maybe while they're feeling disgusted with themselves for daring to let an ugly guy fuck them, they might actually get good feelings in their clits and get addicted to them.

Or maybe I'm drawing too much of this from various "fucked by fat old men until she likes it" manga and that outcome isn't feasible. Doesn't matter, knowing she is humbled/humiliated by choosing to do this with ugly men is still a pleasing idea. Combined with knowing Chad values us as a brother willing to share his spoils, it would be something I think could make ugly men much happier.

If Chad was willing to do stuff like this, I would consider him a true friend, and want to reward that friendship. Maybe not with money, but with other cool stuff like letting him watch anime/games I bought, or cooking him a nice burger.

I guess in a way it's similar to a "pimp" relationship, but in a casual less transactional way, in the same way normal romantic relationships work compared to explicit prostitituion. Basically you are having a bromance with a friend who compels his Betty orbiters to fuck you as an apology for her treating you so shitty.

This may eventually lead to Betty acting nicer to ugly guys, so that she will not be commanded to fuck them as punishment. Sometimes I wonder if some degree of that already does happen, as some women do actually act nice to ugly guys. That could be due to other punishments (rather than order her to fuck an ugly guy, a Chad husband might simply withhold sex from her if she is rude to ugly guys, or withhold money from her, etc) but I like the idea of this punishment. It could make Chads a true friend if they wanted to try it out.

I feel like I actually saw a movie or two like this, what am I remembering?
 
What the fuck are you on about
 
I didn't actually read your post because it's way too fucking long, but ultimately there's nothing they can do to redeem themselves because the current state of the world isn't actually their fault. Even in a perfect world, high-status males would still exist and they would still mog the shit out of us; the only difference would be that we are afforded low-status females who are roughly equivalent to ourselves.

The blame for hypergamy lies with females (and more specifically low-status females) for restricting themselves to a small subset of men even when it's not even in their own best interests. Chads are effectively domesticated animals; they will take whatever is given to them (and in that case it's quite a lot) so it's not fair to blame them when they're over-fed or whatever. You have to blame the people who are over-feeding them instead. And that would be foids.
 
Perhaps you see them incapable of absolute redemption, but let's say PARTIAL redemption.

If Chad shared his harem with you (ie he says he won't fuck them unless they fuck you first) then that is an olive branch.

A hypothetical self-aware Chad who is able to avoid overfeeding, who shares his meals.
 
Chads don't give a fuck about us, we're non existant to tem. they don't want to change a thing about their life.
 
Chads don't give a fuck about us, we're non existant to tem. they don't want to change a thing about their life.
They can be reasoned with, afterall they are not foids. The empathetic chad should take one woman and nothing more for himself so that there are more to go around. This will indirectly benefit the chad in the long run because not only will he have his stacey wife but the society he lives in should become more stable as well. The problem is they understandably make themselves available to all women which reduces the potential dating pool for low smv men. There should be limited free will, either by coercion from the state or imposed by the family, when it comes to finding a suitor. Arranged marriages with strict penalties for adultery is the ideal
 
Chads don't give a fuck about us, we're non existant to tem
We obviously exist to at least some chads since chads have bullied us.
They can be reasoned with, afterall they are not foids. The empathetic chad should take one woman and nothing more for himself so that there are more to go around.
Devil's advocate here: if Chad is aware that his personal abstinence for surplus foids won't actually change anything if the other Chads don't engage in this too (the foids he avoids will just fuck other Chads, not us) then perhaps he could serve our needs better by dating these foids but encouraging them to fuck us simultaneously?
 
Devil's advocate here: if Chad is aware that his personal abstinence for surplus foids won't actually change anything if the other Chads don't engage in this too (the foids he avoids will just fuck other Chads, not us)
i actually addressed this in my post. The state needs to enforce monogamy, arranged marriages and harsh penatlies for adultery/making divorce illegal
 
The pussy is too good for them to change. It's as simple as that in my view. Most men these days would walk into the hood while cosplaying as Amon Goeth for 30 seconds of pussy and Chad gets it without trying because women are always on the lookout for him like Where's Wally.
 
STRICTLY GO AFTER STACEYS 8-10S ONLY
ONLY HAVE 1 PARTNER AT A TIME MAXIMUM

STOP GASLIGHTING NORMANS AND ESPECIALLY INCELS
STOP DUNKING ON INCELS AS AN EASY WIN WHEN THEY WANT TO EXERT THEIR NARCISSISTIC TENDENCIES
 

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