Discussion In a way Islamic takeover could be more dangerous than Jewish control

[AsiaCel]

Let's assume that there is a small group of Jewish elites that has powerful grip on multiple fields.

The small, globalist elites that people talk about are confined to a small group of elites who rely on others to do their bidding.

Generally, every group has three groups. Elites, regulars, and allies.

What makes the Muslims so different is that they actually have the numbers to back up their operations and do not rely on allies that are limited in numbers and could turn at any moment.

The Muslims could also recruit converts instead of relying on the same group of people over and over. Partially the Mongols were so successful was because of the fact that they incorporated the Chinese engineers into their military with advanced technologies and weapons, including hand grenades and firearms. (The Jews would not be so pragmatic to let their newly recruited people have relatively equality)

Jews:
Elites: Small group of Jewish elites
Regulars: Small group of Jewish regulars
Allies: Relies on a rapidly declining amount of Zionist Goyim

Muslims:
Elites: Small group of Muslim elites
Regulars: Big group of Muslims
Allies: The left, but generally they have enough Muslims to not need allies.

We can see that the Muslim side is all "in-house", does not rely on mercenaries, and if they detach from their allies, it would not be a big issue for the Muslims.

The Jews, assuming that something like the "Great Noticing" leads to actions, could easily be kicked out due to their small numbers. However, there is no "great noticing" for Muslims, they are both the head and the sword.

If you think that Muslims are just 85 IQ retards, that would be underestimating them; the larger population you have, the more high IQ people you have in total and dare I say, the 200+ IQ people will come from an 85 average IQ population instead of the small group of people with 115 average IQ.

Some people say that the Jews work with Muslims. True, but they are on a very shaky foundation. The average Muslim hates the Jews to the gut due to religious differences.

 

[DeliriousMerchant]

Just put all your stocks on China taking over us.

 

[GobidMujahid]

The Muslims could also recruit converts instead of relying on the same group of people over and over.

Yes, but it also means that there can be social mobility, and on this basis I'd say that an Islamic takeover would be better.

 

[AsiaCel]

Yes, but it also means that there can be social mobility, and on this basis I'd say that an Islamic takeover would be better.

Correct. Also, it's a reason why Muslims can takeover more easily.

Once the people found out that they're fighting for the ethno supremacy of one group, they would not be so eager to defend it.

However, there is no such thing in a Islamic takeover, the new converts would be treated with relative equality.

Although, it varies depending on the time of history. Both Jews and Muslims could treat their new converts and allies well.

 

[GobidMujahid]

Both Jews and Muslims could treat their new converts and allies well.

Jews?

 

[AsiaCel]

Jews?

Yes, in Israel, the Arabs are treated relatively well. Although, their relations are shaky.

The Arabs of Israel can be activated any time by foreign actors and indoctrinated to hate the fellow Israelis.

Israel would need Xinjiang approach to make the Arabs truly obedient to the Jews without risk of being influenced.

Obciously this is impossible without significant international backlash

 

[GobidMujahid]

85 average IQ

How did Arabs go from being the center of civilization (Bronze Age ~ Caliphate) to this?

 

[AsiaCel]

How did Arabs go from being the center of civilization (Bronze Age ~ Caliphate) to this?

I remember reading somewhere back in the past that Islamic golden era was mostly propelled by the Persians.

Also, the Arabs were blessed with the fertile crescent.

The Arabs did have a civilization

Im not too well educated on this topic, but my crude theory is that Arabs were well equipped for their time with relatively simple technologies, but the winter weather adaption allowed other groups to advance beyond just desert towns; this is consistent with other heat adapted groups.

The best observation in my opinion; a crude methodology if you will, is by observing the past and the present. When someone said "muh yamnaya elites", we can clearly conclude that the theory is a failure because modern Afghanistan is a shithole.

 

[GobidMujahid]

Yes, in Israel, the Arabs are treated relatively well. Although, their relations are shaky.

The Arabs of Israel can be activated any time by foreign actors and indoctrinated to hate the fellow Israelis.

Israel would need Xinjiang approach to make the Arabs truly obedient to the Jews without risk of being influenced.

Obciously this is impossible without significant international backlash

I remember reading somewhere back in the past that Islamic golden era was mostly propelled by the Persians.

Also, the Arabs were blessed with the fertile crescent.

The Arabs did have a civilization

Im not too well educated on this topic, but my crude theory is that Arabs were well equipped for their time with relatively simple technologies, but the winter weather adaption allowed other groups to advance beyond just desert towns; this is consistent with other heat adapted groups.

The best observation in my opinion; a crude methodology if you will, is by observing the past and the present. When someone said "muh yamnaya elites", we can clearly conclude that the theory is a failure because modern Afghanistan is a shithole.

DR (did read). Thank you for high-effort answers.

 

[AsiaCel]

DR (did read). Thank you for high-effort answers.

I recommend reading up on these things. I'm not too well educated on this topic. Also what are called Arab countries, are their own ethnic groups; Arab being a unifying identity of (mostly) Caucasoid (minor) Negroid mixed peoples.

 

[Giracel]

Muslims (meaning true Taliban fundamentalist Islam, not chill habibi of UAE) would destroy any possibility of ascension with their retarded gender segregation insanity. I agree with you.

 

[Nicusor_delaBraila]

center of civilization

arabs werent doing much untill islam came along
other semites were doing shit in the bronze age but not arabs

 

[ogercel]

$7000 have been deposited into your account

 

[Blackpill Monk]

Islam is not egalitarian at all. Islam at is core is the ethnic racial supremacy of Arabs. In Islamic takeover, Arabs will be at top of hierarchy while non Arabs will be slaves or being inferior. See in the examples of Jihadist organization, most of the sucide bombers are Non Arabs, while Arabs take comfortable jobs/non combatable jobs. This sums up all

 

[Pikacel]

Muslims don’t want to take over, we want our own countries to stabilise and develop

But since many of us are stuck in foreign countries we might as well protect our interests for the time being

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Let's assume that there is a small group of Jewish elites that has powerful grip on multiple fields.

The small, globalist elites that people talk about are confined to a small group of elites who rely on others to do their bidding.

Generally, every group has three groups. Elites, regulars, and allies.

What makes the Muslims so different is that they actually have the numbers to back up their operations and do not rely on allies that are limited in numbers and could turn at any moment.

The Muslims could also recruit converts instead of relying on the same group of people over and over. Partially the Mongols were so successful was because of the fact that they incorporated the Chinese engineers into their military with advanced technologies and weapons, including hand grenades and firearms. (The Jews would not be so pragmatic to let their newly recruited people have relatively equality)

Jews:
Elites: Small group of Jewish elites
Regulars: Small group of Jewish regulars
Allies: Relies on a rapidly declining amount of Zionist Goyim

Muslims:
Elites: Small group of Muslim elites
Regulars: Big group of Muslims
Allies: The left, but generally they have enough Muslims to not need allies.

We can see that the Muslim side is all "in-house", does not rely on mercenaries, and if they detach from their allies, it would not be a big issue for the Muslims.

The Jews, assuming that something like the "Great Noticing" leads to actions, could easily be kicked out due to their small numbers. However, there is no "great noticing" for Muslims, they are both the head and the sword.

If you think that Muslims are just 85 IQ retards, that would be underestimating them; the larger population you have, the more high IQ people you have in total and dare I say, the 200+ IQ people will come from an 85 average IQ population instead of the small group of people with 115 average IQ.

Some people say that the Jews work with Muslims. True, but they are on a very shaky foundation. The average Muslim hates the Jews to the gut due to religious differences.

Islam is not good, but in today's world, if I had to choose between woke progressive maoist-led liberal degradation or ultra libertarian capitalism, I would choose Islam as the lesser evil. All Muslims are asking for is to be allowed to join them, and the Arabs in the wealthy Gulf countries have built national socialism for the local Arabs by giving them money from oil sales and providing jobs in the public sector, using the ruthless labor of the Indians.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Islam is not egalitarian at all. Islam at is core is the ethnic racial supremacy of Arabs. In Islamic takeover, Arabs will be at top of hierarchy while non Arabs will be slaves or being inferior. See in the examples of Jihadist organization, most of the sucide bombers are Non Arabs, while Arabs take comfortable jobs/non combatable jobs. This sums up all

And what about the Ottoman Empire? Didn't the Turks stand above the Arabs at that time? For example, as far as I remember, an Albanian took power in Egypt, Muhammad Ali Pasha, and made Egypt a de facto independent state from the Turks. Or the Mamluks in Egypt, who were descended from Turkic and Caucasian slaves who ruled Egypt for centuries.

 

[AsiaCel]

$7000 have been deposited into your account

Nah bro. Both are bad. Mao killed 100M of Chinese people with the help of advisors like Israel Epstein.

 

[AsiaCel]

Islam is not egalitarian at all. Islam at is core is the ethnic racial supremacy of Arabs. In Islamic takeover, Arabs will be at top of hierarchy while non Arabs will be slaves or being inferior. See in the examples of Jihadist organization, most of the sucide bombers are Non Arabs, while Arabs take comfortable jobs/non combatable jobs. This sums up all

This is true for most desert religions, but from what I see, the Arabs and Pakis seem to work well enough in places like UK, well, as long they have a common enemy, that is.

 

[AsiaCel]

Just put all your stocks on China taking over us.

Are they taking over?

 

[GobidMujahid]

Islam is not egalitarian at all. Islam at is core is the ethnic racial supremacy of Arabs. In Islamic takeover, Arabs will be at top of hierarchy while non Arabs will be slaves or being inferior. See in the examples of Jihadist organization, most of the sucide bombers are Non Arabs, while Arabs take comfortable jobs/non combatable jobs. This sums up all

This is true for most desert religions, but from what I see, the Arabs and Pakis seem to work well enough in places like UK, well, as long they have a common enemy, that is.

Afghan and Chechen jihads had a nationalist character (although it is not necessarily a good thing).

Pashtunwali is (allegedly) a component of the Taliban ideology.

 

[GobidMujahid]

The jihad in the Sahel is also intertwined with non-Arab tribal interests, e.g., Fulani & Tuareg. @Pikacel

 

[STOICSURGEON]

How did Arabs go from being the center of civilization (Bronze Age ~ Caliphate) to this?

Sic transit gloria mundi

 

[endoftheskies]

Let's assume that there is a small group of Jewish elites that has powerful grip on multiple fields.

The small, globalist elites that people talk about are confined to a small group of elites who rely on others to do their bidding.

Generally, every group has three groups. Elites, regulars, and allies.

What makes the Muslims so different is that they actually have the numbers to back up their operations and do not rely on allies that are limited in numbers and could turn at any moment.

The Muslims could also recruit converts instead of relying on the same group of people over and over. Partially the Mongols were so successful was because of the fact that they incorporated the Chinese engineers into their military with advanced technologies and weapons, including hand grenades and firearms. (The Jews would not be so pragmatic to let their newly recruited people have relatively equality)

Jews:
Elites: Small group of Jewish elites
Regulars: Small group of Jewish regulars
Allies: Relies on a rapidly declining amount of Zionist Goyim

Muslims:
Elites: Small group of Muslim elites
Regulars: Big group of Muslims
Allies: The left, but generally they have enough Muslims to not need allies.

We can see that the Muslim side is all "in-house", does not rely on mercenaries, and if they detach from their allies, it would not be a big issue for the Muslims.

The Jews, assuming that something like the "Great Noticing" leads to actions, could easily be kicked out due to their small numbers. However, there is no "great noticing" for Muslims, they are both the head and the sword.

If you think that Muslims are just 85 IQ retards, that would be underestimating them; the larger population you have, the more high IQ people you have in total and dare I say, the 200+ IQ people will come from an 85 average IQ population instead of the small group of people with 115 average IQ.

Some people say that the Jews work with Muslims. True, but they are on a very shaky foundation. The average Muslim hates the Jews to the gut due to religious differences.

What the frick is this?

 

[endoftheskies]

I remember reading somewhere back in the past that Islamic golden era was mostly propelled by the Persians.

Also, the Arabs were blessed with the fertile crescent.

The Arabs did have a civilization

Im not too well educated on this topic, but my crude theory is that Arabs were well equipped for their time with relatively simple technologies, but the winter weather adaption allowed other groups to advance beyond just desert towns; this is consistent with other heat adapted groups.

The best observation in my opinion; a crude methodology if you will, is by observing the past and the present. When someone said "muh yamnaya elites", we can clearly conclude that the theory is a failure because modern Afghanistan is a shithole.

The Islamic Golden Age was not proppelled by foreign powers, but instead increased tolerance, reduced warfare and unity. Islam united all of the tribes of the Bedouin into one single political entity, and allowed for increased trade and exchange between powers. Muslims also tolerated and treated with respect and sincerity with the religions in the area. Not to mention, diasporic muslim merchants founded communities and took over the Indian Ocean Trade which allowed for the diffusion of technology and science. The unity of this political entity soon become apparaent, as scholars began working on new innovations and refining old ones.

 

[Zeref]

Islam is dying anyways, I hope it gets reduced to it's exoticism. It would've died already if it wasn't for pissrael and Saudi's petrodollar

 

[AsiaCel]

Islam is dying anyways, I hope it gets reduced to it's exoticism. It would've died already if it wasn't for pissrael and Saudi's petrodollar

It won't die, at least not in the way you think.

My guess is that it will evolve to something like Zionism, ethnonationalism regardless of religious belief.

Basically an Arab supremacist club, with less emphasis on supremacy.

Lots of Muslims drink and hook ups, but they still fight for the banner of Allah.

 

[Zeref]

It won't die, at least not in the way you think.

My guess is that it will evolve to something like Zionism, ethnonationalism regardless of religious belief.

Basically an Arab supremacist club, with less emphasis on supremacy.

Lots of Muslims drink and hook ups, but they still fight for the banner of Allah.

The stupid ass practices like honor killings, praying 5 times, fasting needs to go. My biggest fear about it muslimahs becoming fully whores for kafirs because of the taboo

 

[Justanotherbloke]

But Jewish control will result in more erosion over the years. It's like an Anaconda choking society more and more overtime. Islamic takeover will result in more blowing themselves up in streets of capitals. Their rule is stupid and dumb, Jewish rule is smarter.

 

[currycell900]

jewish control is subtle islamic control will be all about worshipping maulana faggots

 

[STAMP3D3E]

Muslims conquered Spain and Portugal and ruled them for over 800 years and those were the best years and age for Spain and Portugal, where they advanced technologically and were treated very good under the Muslims. It’s a cope to think Muslim takeover would be bad when it would probably be the best and most peaceful times we would have.

 

[xeno]

Muh Islamic takeover is never happening nigga. Can’t believe people still fall for this. I live around Muslims. No way are they giving up their fornication, prostitution, drugs, alcohol, benefit fraud, interest loans

 

[xeno]

The guys you see pushing for the implementation of sharia law are young sexually frustrated men. That is the only demographic that gives a fuck. As soon as one of them gets a little foid attention, the act drops fast