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Im wondering what caused this male/female dating imbalance so much other then social media?

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Usually during birth its almost even in males/females. So what else is causing the imbalance?

I can understand maybe a 25% increase due to sloots being pregnet or married (lol)

But now a days, even the good looking white chadlites have to setting for foids 10+ years older then them and are at their mercy. That is like one available female for every 10 males out there.
 
i think ithas something to do with the crazy feminist movement that tells women that men dont deserve them
 
It's like this, if not worse, in nature. Civilization was the cure to hypergamy, not the cause. Naturally only the best reproduce, and we die off.
 
Do you even need to ask? He wants to lower fertility rates.
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So many factors/threads all coming together for a perfect storm.

  • End of slut shaming. Both women and men used to shame promiscuous women, because men found it gross and for women it de-valued their most precious asset. But now women celebrate their promiscuity, the more the better. You would think this would be good for men, buuuut
  • Hypergamy. Women don't need to marry for financial stability and can get themselves an easy, high paying office job with very little effort if they are good looking. So as a result, women chase the top 20% or higher of men, made all the more possible byyyyy
  • Social media. Creating unnatural, impossibly large social networks at a level humans aren't meant to function at, women are swamed by choice like never before. Its a proven psychological concept that the more choice you have, the harder the decision to choose becomes. Women stay single for years or decades now on dating sites and Tinder, because they don't want to settle for the average guy, they want the 10/10 unicorn.
 
polyamory and polygamy is in our nature, ancestors enforced monogamy to lessen pareto distribution in sex and relationship so there would be less sexless men and many would be willing to contribute to society...but social medias,dating sites and tinder brings out and amplifies what is in our nature because its all one click away
 
It's simply nature, in the old days 1 out of 17 men had sex. For thousands of years there has been artificial monogamy created by religion/government to try and pair people 1 man to 1 women so things can be more structured and operate smoothly and so people aren't so suicidal over being incel. But after thousands of years civilization has gotten to the point were automation on a mass scale is becoming feasible and there is no longer a need for happy, functioning humans. So Religion/Government institutions no longer give a fuck about maintaining monogamy and we are returning to that natural 1 out of 17 men reproduce ratio. So like 94% of men were naturally incel in the past and we are seeing a return of that 94% incel rate.
 
Great to see so many thoughtful replies. If you needed mine in one word: feminism.
 
It's like this, if not worse, in nature. Civilization was the cure to hypergamy, not the cause. Naturally only the best reproduce, and we die off.

But just because of mm facial differences or "ugliness", doesn't make us less in nature. Aggression and dominance is more important and skill.

Civilization was the cure for men to stop killing each other in the same village.
 
It's like this, if not worse, in nature. Civilization was the cure to hypergamy, not the cause. Naturally only the best reproduce, and we die off.

I'd say aspects of civilization were the cure, civilization itself is a giant pyramid-scheme. Of coarse bad people in high positions of power can do some relatively good things for bad reasons. They never give us anything good for the sake of our good, they do it for their own good only.

Certain traditions such as monogamy, slut-shaming, etc though, do serve a purpose. And we should preserve those traditions. Problem is when the population grows too large, the individual counts less and less, becomes more and more powerless against a larger, more centralized collective, and their are always gonna be a few goons steering the mindless herd. Any community over 200 people or so, and the people stop mattering (in democracies we are given the illusion of a voice or freedom so we don't revolt). Then it will inevitably go through the stages, to egalitarianism, to feminism, to collapse.... Over the coarse of enough generations.
 
But just because of mm facial differences or "ugliness", doesn't make us less in nature. Aggression and dominance is more important and skill.

Civilization was the cure for men to stop killing each other in the same village.
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I'd say aspects of civilization were the cure, civilization itself is a giant pyramid-scheme. Of coarse bad people in high positions of power can do some relatively good things for bad reasons. They never give us anything good for the sake of our good, they do it for their own good only.

Certain traditions such as monogamy, slut-shaming, etc though, do serve a purpose. And we should preserve those traditions. Problem is when the population grows too large, the individual counts less and less, becomes more and more powerless against a larger, more centralized collective, and their are always gonna be a few goons steering the mindless herd. Any community over 200 people or so, and the people stop mattering (in democracies we are given the illusion of a voice or freedom so we don't revolt). Then it will inevitably go through the stages, to egalitarianism, to feminism, to collapse.... Over the coarse of enough generations.
Agreed.
 
Usually during birth its almost even in males/females. So what else is causing the imbalance?

I can understand maybe a 25% increase due to sloots being pregnet or married (lol)

But now a days, even the good looking white chadlites have to setting for foids 10+ years older then them and are at their mercy. That is like one available female for every 10 males out there.

Men are the superior species (dimorphic superiority in most aspects) but to balance the sexes evolution gave men higher sex drive so women had sexual leverage over men, historically this created an equilibrium between the sexes, but since women don't need men anymore to survive because of rapid technological advancements and changing cultural system which is now skewed in their favor through the feminist movement, men lost the vast majority of their provider leverage while woman kept all their sexual leverage. This is what is creating the dating imbalance. Women had to date men (moreover give sexual access rapidly) to fucking survive, they didn't have any other choice, now they can be as picky and choosy as the may, while men keep their high sex drive. This is what we call evolutionary mismatch, the equilibrium has been broken because of rapidly evolving environmental changes which the human species isn't adapted to.
 
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i think ithas something to do with the crazy feminist movement that tells women that men dont deserve them
Feminism giga hype. I actually use that as a strat in future.
 
How am I not quoted for high IQ already? :feelshehe:
 
Here is a good example of hypergamey: https://www.instagram.com/art18diablo/?hl=en This is a chad who has a extremely cringe name and he has a girlfreind who is below him in the sexual market place. This guy is motherfucking tall. he played basketball in new york, he became tired of basketball apparently. This guy is fucking below his potential. That girl was my sort of my child-hood crush Actually.
 
Women doesn't need sec as men do
 
Second wave feminism's failure to eliminate the sexes caused it. It was supposed to eliminate sex while liberating women as you put men in a bind if you liberate female choice but not men's and retain the sexes. It's failure to make the sexes less sexually dimorphous to the point of unrecognizability, led to liberated women who chase the small percentage of men who have the most sexually dimorphous personality and body requirements. Some andro sluts and weebs have subconciously tried to pick up the slack of fucking non-hyper-masculine men, but there wasn't an efficient way of distributing andro sluts and weebs to men who don't fit hypermasculine standards.
 
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feminism's failure. Particularity it's failure to make the sexes less sexually dimorphous to the point of unrecognizable, leading to liberated women who chase the small percentage of men who have the most sexually dimorphous personality and body requirements.
Not sure if irony or if you want to really "soy down" every male. Interesting approach but I'd say fix incels and maybe do your thing with men with to chaddy genes.
 
The unrestrained nature of online 'dating'
 
Not sure if irony or if you want to really "soy down" every male. Interesting approach but I'd say fix incels and maybe do your thing with men with to chaddy genes.

Soying down every male and masculinizing every woman, to an extreme degree would eliminate most gender problems. You'd also have to like... have artificial wombs and shit. Which seems like a weird thing to talk about. But this is literally what radical feminists like shumalith firestone and many other radical feminists explicitly had in mind. Although, they wanted women to control the artificial wombs, but there's no reason not to make equal the control of the artificial wombs against the radical feminist's desires.

The favorite philosopher of late 2010's incels: Otto Weininger argued that in humans, the less sexually dimorphic the genders, the less of a problem female sexual liberation becomes. Whereas, if there is high sexual dimorphism in humans, female sexual liberation leads to agitation, domestic abuse against husbands, and rampant female expressions of vanity and male-attention-seeking in traditional male spaces.

The problem is that sexually liberated women naturally promote sexual dimorphism, as seen in apps like Tinder. So obviously, freeing the sexual marketplace isn't the first step to a free sexual market without civilizational decline. In order to establish women a free sexual market peacefully, if such a thing were desirable, first attention should be paid to reducing sexual dimorphism or sex differences, even if that means reducing female sexual choice temporarily. If such a change were made permanent, and there was very little sexual dimorphism between the sexes, to the point of almost not being able to distinguish between the sexes, female sexual liberation would probably not lead to civilizational decline, or at least the kind that we see now.
 
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Soying down every male and masculinizing every woman, to an extreme degree would eliminate most gender problems. You'd also have to like... have artificial wombs and shit. Which seems like a weird thing to talk about. But this is literally what radical feminists like shumalith firestone and many other radical feminists explicitly had in mind. Although, they wanted women to control the artificial wombs, but there's no reason not to make equal the control of the artificial wombs against the radical feminist's desires.

The favorite philosopher of late 2010's incels: Otto Weininger argued that in humans, the less sexually dimorphic the genders, the less of a problem female sexual liberation becomes. Whereas, if there is high sexual dimorphism in humans, female sexual liberation leads to agitation, domestic abuse against husbands, and rampant female expressions of vanity and male-attention-seeking in traditional male spaces.

The problem is that sexually liberated women naturally promote sexual dimorphism, as seen in apps like Tinder. So obviously, freeing the sexual marketplace isn't the first step to a free sexual market without civilizational decline. In order to establish women a free sexual market peacefully, if such a thing were desirable, first attention should be paid to reducing sexual dimorphism or sex differences, even if that means reducing female sexual choice temporarily. If such a change were made permanent, and there was very little sexual dimorphism between the sexes, to the point of almost not being able to distinguish between the sexes, female sexual liberation would probably not lead to civilizational decline, or at least the kind that we see now.

And you don't think this will negatively affect male health and will just lead to more or less unhappy marriages on the females side once they see chads aka take a history book in their hands or will this be canceled out by high T women who prefer in exchange lower T men then?

Wasn't it measured that women are starting to become higher T? Maybe it's already happening. Think about it. Maybe the soy numale is the natural answer and a genuin happy symbiosis is evolving, with incels just being a hormonal anachronism. But what about the wives still wanna fuck chad on the side?

Is there any scientific work on the topic? I wish Gender Studies were not totally uselss tbh.

Moreover sexual dimorphism isn't the only problem. Communism with government assistance for incels in all areas + increased female birth rate would be my current go to solution tbh.
 
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Agreed.

My man. Came in here to post a summary of that, seen u posted the whole thing,, that’s a gigaton thermonuclear vantablackpill.. very eye opening.. one of the first blackpill posts I saved to my little collection
 
And you don't think this will negatively affect male health and will just lead to more or less unhappy marriages on the females side once they see chads aka take a history book in their hands or will this be canceled out by high T women who prefer in exchange lower T men then?

Wasn't it measured that women are starting to become higher T? Maybe it's already happening. Think about it. Maybe the soy numale is the natural answer and a genuin happy symbiosis is evolving, with incels just being a hormonal anachronism. But what about the wives still wanna fuck chad on the side?

Is there any scientific work on the topic? I wish Gender Studies were not totally uselss tbh.

Moreover sexual dimorphism isn't the only problem. Communism with government assistance for incels in all areas + increased female birth rate would be my current go to solution tbh.

virtually everyone is a soy numale, something like only 3% of men feel masculine nowadays. But there is still that small percentage of men who are very masculine. If you eliminate the differences btw the sexes, there are no chads. There are no chads to 'fuck on the side'.

If there's no sexual dimorphism, the only incels would be personality or mentalcels, I don't think communism would address that unless it's something like
https://wiki.incels.info/w/Complimentary_Heterosexual_Affections_Directive
or
https://wiki.incels.info/w/Governmentsgetgirlfriends
 
The blackpill basics of if there's 50 women and 50 men it doesn't help the bottom 40 men when the top 10 men are fucking 5 each exclusively.

But to post something you fuckers might not have read before, you also have the effect in the west of our societies getting more accumulated wealth. Post-WWII generational wealth was an all time low, that meant your quality of life was very dependant on the quality of your job. So if you're a female, your inherited wealth is irrelevant you need to work and/or get with a guy who is on average doing a better job.

Now with more wealth disparity, your job is way less important. I make relative bank in the UK and I did the maths, it will take me 40 years to save enough to buy a house that the average London guy is going to inherit from their parents who bought it for peanuts whilst working in a shirt factory or something. So like a third of all females have very little material concerns. For the ones that do have material concerns, the distribution of men with money is way more unequal so it's only worth chasing people with absolutely mental jobs or significant inherited wealth.

In the last generation I'd be balling as fuck from my job, in this one I'm below people working part time for charities inheriting a house.

Of course you have to add feminism/no slutshaming/etc/etc but this is a factor people probably don't think about much.
 
because we are disintegrating back to nature, and nature is evil. That is what happens when we forsake God, we only have to turn to the bitch Mother Nature who doesnt give a SHIT about us other than to use our bodies for recycling and evolution. This universe is made of an equation, and that equation is evil in its nature. It is an equation made by the false god. The true god brang religion of old in by sacrificing his son and making him suffer greatly (monotheism, which worships the HIGHEST god, which is the true god) and that is what temporarily fixed life. But we lost it and now we are going to descend back into hell, EAT OR BE EATEN, strongest most brutal men win and dominate, intellect is only going to be used for domination and evil, slaves and masters. The law of the jungle, one which is great suffering and fucked upness.

Unless we can somehow bring some kind of monothiesm back into our society, in which society believe in a greater good, a higher purpose other than material bullshit and ego-istic hedonism, then we are going to revert back into soul-less animals.
 
So many factors/threads all coming together for a perfect storm.

  • End of slut shaming. Both women and men used to shame promiscuous women, because men found it gross and for women it de-valued their most precious asset. But now women celebrate their promiscuity, the more the better. You would think this would be good for men, buuuut
  • Hypergamy. Women don't need to marry for financial stability and can get themselves an easy, high paying office job with very little effort if they are good looking. So as a result, women chase the top 20% or higher of men, made all the more possible byyyyy
  • Social media. Creating unnatural, impossibly large social networks at a level humans aren't meant to function at, women are swamed by choice like never before. Its a proven psychological concept that the more choice you have, the harder the decision to choose becomes. Women stay single for years or decades now on dating sites and Tinder, because they don't want to settle for the average guy, they want the 10/10 unicorn.
great post and thanks for the set up. haha
 
Humanitarian delicate sensibility noble obligation society. Creating a huge shadow that makes men fear to fuck with women.

The fact women have a vast amount of hypergamy and options while men have to qualify and be the product. But women have all the money to get any product. So any flaw and she'll leap to the next one, which causes the man to be the levered in the relationship as opposed ot being the leverer. Unless the guy is the best choice she can perceive for herself of course. With infinitely more benefit for her than the detriment he brings, averaging out to a better benefit than other options.

Men shilling for women with A to cure B.

These are the main reasons.
 
So many factors/threads all coming together for a perfect storm.

  • End of slut shaming. Both women and men used to shame promiscuous women, because men found it gross and for women it de-valued their most precious asset. But now women celebrate their promiscuity, the more the better. You would think this would be good for men, buuuut
  • Hypergamy. Women don't need to marry for financial stability and can get themselves an easy, high paying office job with very little effort if they are good looking. So as a result, women chase the top 20% or higher of men, made all the more possible byyyyy
  • Social media. Creating unnatural, impossibly large social networks at a level humans aren't meant to function at, women are swamed by choice like never before. Its a proven psychological concept that the more choice you have, the harder the decision to choose becomes. Women stay single for years or decades now on dating sites and Tinder, because they don't want to settle for the average guy, they want the 10/10 unicorn.
High Iq observation
 
Men not dying in a war or being fulltime soldiers or aves also a reason
 
Men are the superior species (dimorphic superiority in most aspects) but to balance the sexes evolution gave men higher sex drive so women had sexual leverage over men, historically this created an equilibrium between the sexes, but since women don't need men anymore to survive because of rapid technological advancements and changing cultural system which is now skewed in their favor through the feminist movement, men lost the vast majority of their provider leverage while woman kept all their sexual leverage. This is what is creating the dating imbalance. Women had to date men (moreover give sexual access rapidly) to fucking survive, they didn't have any other choice, now they can be as picky and choosy as the may, while men keep their high sex drive. This is what we call evolutionary mismatch, the equilibrium has been broken because of rapidly evolving environmental changes which the human species isn't adapted to.

Telsa level iq
How am I not quoted for high IQ already? :feelshehe:
Lol just read it. Had to read the pic also in gremins
 
Atheism and liberalism. They seek to destroy the very foundations of civilization. Days that I dont have an oneitis I have no desire to work but with one I can do anything. Liberals are the enemies of mankind. Future generations will thank us for burning them alive.
 
Atheism and liberalism. They seek to destroy the very foundations of civilization. Days that I dont have an oneitis I have no desire to work but with one I can do anything. Liberals are the enemies of mankind. Future generations will thank us for burning them alive.
they are destroying the order..moral relativism is already happening in sex/relationship. nietzsche prophesied whats happening now, guess theres always a bad thing in every era
 
I'd say aspects of civilization were the cure, civilization itself is a giant pyramid-scheme. Of coarse bad people in high positions of power can do some relatively good things for bad reasons. They never give us anything good for the sake of our good, they do it for their own good only.

Certain traditions such as monogamy, slut-shaming, etc though, do serve a purpose. And we should preserve those traditions. Problem is when the population grows too large, the individual counts less and less, becomes more and more powerless against a larger, more centralized collective, and their are always gonna be a few goons steering the mindless herd. Any community over 200 people or so, and the people stop mattering (in democracies we are given the illusion of a voice or freedom so we don't revolt). Then it will inevitably go through the stages, to egalitarianism, to feminism, to collapse.... Over the coarse of enough generations.
High IQ
Men are the superior species (dimorphic superiority in most aspects) but to balance the sexes evolution gave men higher sex drive so women had sexual leverage over men, historically this created an equilibrium between the sexes, but since women don't need men anymore to survive because of rapid technological advancements and changing cultural system which is now skewed in their favor through the feminist movement, men lost the vast majority of their provider leverage while woman kept all their sexual leverage. This is what is creating the dating imbalance. Women had to date men (moreover give sexual access rapidly) to fucking survive, they didn't have any other choice, now they can be as picky and choosy as the may, while men keep their high sex drive. This is what we call evolutionary mismatch, the equilibrium has been broken because of rapidly evolving environmental changes which the human species isn't adapted to.
Also High IQ
 
Because the top 20% get all the women.
 
I'm not sure if it's really true that women are pickier today etc however, if it is true it is entirely due to social media, and the feminist movement
 
Chads are sometimes miserable too, cause even if he fucks alot of women, when he falls for one of them and becomes needy, she STILL got alot of other good looking guys to fuck so she breaks his heart.

Seen it with many good looking guys.


This system is good for nobody.
 
virtually everyone is a soy numale, something like only 3% of men feel masculine nowadays. But there is still that small percentage of men who are very masculine. If you eliminate the differences btw the sexes, there are no chads. There are no chads to 'fuck on the side'.

If there's no sexual dimorphism, the only incels would be personality or mentalcels, I don't think communism would address that unless it's something like
https://wiki.incels.info/w/Complimentary_Heterosexual_Affections_Directive
or
https://wiki.incels.info/w/Governmentsgetgirlfriends

Don't you think this will backfire on the male biology? I am really not sure if you're just trolling, because this is basically what the right is accusing the "left" (liberals) of planning. Is there any proof of this existing? How would you avoid infertility and mental problems?

I don't think this will really solve the ugliness problem anyway. Why not go the easier way and just make hormonal T supplements, surgeries and early urine and blood screening available per insurance and teach male body positivity, anti lookism and the blackpill in schools?

The other stuff would be included as a last ressort for truecels and as a therapeutic measure for mentalcels.

What about of the several accounts of women being disgusted by their ugly men? I don't think this will just go away through eliminating all chads. How would this even be possible. It has not all to do with hormones.

What is you political ideology?
 
It's like this, if not worse, in nature. Civilization was the cure to hypergamy, not the cause. Naturally only the best reproduce, and we die off.

This. Remember that monkeys in the wild dont have true monogamy, they all fuck one gigachad. Its 1 to 10 because 10 women are with one chad while the rest of men eat shit. Social media helped bring this type of lifestyle back because women can find chads easily and chads can find women easily. Before women had to search their immediate vicinity and had really strict parents making their chances of meeting a chad very low.

Women would rather fuck nothing than not have a chad. They would rather share the chad than not have him. They think very differently them men, for them its not getting cucked its winning
 
teach male body positivity, anti lookism and the blackpill in schools?

The other stuff would be included as a last ressort for truecels and as a therapeutic measure for mentalcels.

That's fine too, although I'm not a huge fan of gender essentialism, and sometimes people mean the blackpill to mean gender essentialism. I believe in the 'blackpilll' when it means basically just an affirmation that hypergamy is real, dual sexual strategy in females is real etc...

What about of the several accounts of women being disgusted by their ugly men? I don't think this will just go away through eliminating all chads. How would this even be possible. It has not all to do with hormones

decreasing sex differences includes eliminating all the sex differences that would cause hypergamy in the first place, including men wanting to initiate sex more than women. Feminists want to achieve this by decreasing the male sex drive. Although I'd rather achieve this through increasing the female sex drive to initiate sex with average guys instead. You could do this culturally as well as with hormones.

But for reducing sexual dimorphism to eliminate inceldom to really work there need to be either heavy cultural brainwashing to not desire chad, or there'd need to be an onlne dating system that punishes sexual dimorphism in the algorithm, as the way current dating sites are constructed (a free market basically), chads scoop up everyone on online dating.

What is you political ideology?

That we are post-scarcity and therefore entitlement to basic things isn't a problem anymore. I'm fine with government solutions to societal problems and consider myself anti-neoliberal, although these solutions should be democratically implemented and overseen to prevent totalitarianism.
 
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