Serious I'm planning on spending 1000s this year in surgeries all to try to be good enough for ANY woman

[crew2]

I'm about to turn 35 this year. Never touched a girl my whole life or had one attracted to me and have constantly somehow been stuck with friends and acquaintances who have girls approach and show interest in them without them even actually trying whatsoever. I have had a good social life, have always been in relatively good shape am tall, dress well, have a decent job and am a kind hearted person who has treated everyone with respect, in real life at least. None of that ever mattered though. I have vented and said stupid things on here sometimes but I don't really mean it, my heartache turns to anger at times but most of the time it is heartache and I have never physically or verbally hurt anyone in all my time. Whenever I have been in the presence of women throughout all of these years they have reacted to me like someone would an 80 year old man in a wheelchair. It is like I am just not there. Whenever I have approached, no matter what the girl looked like physically, as I tried to treat everyone equally regardless of their appearance, I have had brutal and almost aggressive rejections and reactions.

People always relate this issue to sex but my thoughts and mental well being got so bad that I wouldn't even want to have sex with a girl. I would be perfectly happy to never do anything sexual with a girlfriend and just sit there next to her watching television as long as I was something special to her, no matter her weight, prettiness or whatever. I would just love to feel that feeling if even for 10 seconds of my 35 years. Someone to cuddle and feel their warmth knowing that they like me is all I have ever wanted.

I have moved in and out of my parents house several times since I was 22 and am back there again now. Throughout all my time my family has told me that the problem was my confidence and self esteem and that I actually look great and that one day I will find someone. They have ruined my life with this lie that I clung onto for so many wasted years and all I have ever felt is a feeling like barbed wire wrapped around my heart. All along the problem was physical. I regularly go out on nights out and to clubs with my old college friends to places all over the country. Because I will never see these women again, as crazy as it sounds, I have now resorted to nicely asking women what the reason is that they rejected me. While there are some that basically want me to fuck off and some that give generic responses like "not my type" or "has a boyfriend" some of them are actually nice about it and explain the reason honestly so I speak to them nicely and say thank you. I asked a girl the other week what the problem was and she said it was because she was picky, another said that it was just because I am just not the sort of guy that she or women are physically attracted to whereas some other men are "always going to get it" i.e. attention from women. Other responses have been similar and I appreciate honesty. My family hate me doing this because it completely destroys their arguments so they are trying desperately to stop me.

My plan now is to have as many surgeries as I possibly can to improve my situation this year if that is even possible. I have a lot of money saved up and plan to pay for a lot of these things monthly and if need be I will also take out some sort of loan.Some may say it's late but I am at the point where it is either that or death. It is like my last role of the dice before I end myself and I think I have earned the right to take my own life at this point. I now realise that death will just be like going to sleep forever. There is nothing after this, there just can't be.

 

[azakhan]

Good luck, I hope it's not too late for your

 

[Uglyme]

The things we do for foids. I won't discourage you though, good luck man.

 

[crew2]

Good luck, I hope it's not too late for your

Thank you az. I hope so but I think it is too late anyway.

 

[DarthSpectra]

Start with some jaw surgery if you have it recessed. Maybe that's the problem and the rest are not required. If your jaw is good, then the situation is a little bad. But as a first, I recommend jaw surgery if needed

 

[COPEmaster]

while chad spends his money on food ...

 

[crew2]

The things we do for foids. I won't discourage you though, good luck man.

Yes. I realise it is the world we live in though. The problem is my attraction to and my yearning for a women to love me and me love her back There is no escaping it. If a young man knows he is not good enough then my advice to him is to somehow try to fix it any way he can even though it's heartbreaking.

 

[Mainländer]

35? Brutal. Well, I hope it works out for you somehow, fellow oldcel.

 

[Words2_live_bye]

It won't work.
Spend your money on copes

 

[crew2]

Start with some jaw surgery if you have it recessed. Maybe that's the problem and the rest are not required. If your jaw is good, then the situation is a little bad. But as a first, I recommend jaw surgery if needed

The problem is I live in the uk and it's hard to find surgeons here who do good work. I am travelling down to london in a few weeks for CO2 laser resurfacing and then somewhere else for buccal fat removal not long after. Both are relatively mild surgeries. I am not sure on what surgeons do good jaw surgery here though.

35? Brutal. Well, I hope it works out for you somehow, fellow oldcel.

Thank you. Yes. People seem surprised when we mention ages like that but what else can we do except come here? It's not like it's going to disappear with age.

It won't work.
Spend your money on copes

Any improvement physically is a good improvement though even if it makes me feel better within myself. I have coped for decades.

 

[DeathtoallChads]

Good luck.

 

[Deleted member 140]

Good luck buddy boyo

 

[Sexdoll Pioneer]

The things we do for foids.

This. I'm planning to completely let myself go next decade in terms of my physical appearance. Foids never gave me their best, so why should I spend all sorts of money and go through so much hassle trying to look my best (which will still never be good enough for them and their unreachable standards)?

 

[Marauder]

I hope that helps.

People always relate this issue to sex but my thoughts and mental well being got so bad that I wouldn't even want to have sex with a girl. I would be perfectly happy to never do anything sexual with a girlfriend and just sit there next to her watching television as long as I was something special to her, no matter her weight, prettiness or whatever. I would just love to feel that feeling if even for 10 seconds of my 35 years. Someone to cuddle and feel their warmth knowing that they like me is all I have ever wanted.

 

[ryhan]

It won't work.
Spend your money on copes

Don't listen to him op use this link https://looksmax.org/threads/part-2-of-guide-height-and-the-rest-included.71632/

 

[Deleted member 6214]

There's a tendency to write off surgerymaxing on this forum but it's the most legit way to get out of inceldom

 

[Angry_runt]

Do you know of any real-world examples of surgery turning guys from ugly to good looking? I don't mean those side pics that cosmetic surgeons use for marketing, but actual photos of actual people (men specifically) before and after surgery.

 

[Deleted member 21908]

damn brutal at age 35 ngl, if you have done this in yours 20s that would be good for prime jbs but maybe you didn't have enough money but goodluck anyways man

 

[Deleted member 4760]

I support you. Youre actually trying to do something about your case.

I was thinking of getting hair implant personally but in any case, I'd rather really just walthmaxx and find someone in a low earning country.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

Do you know of any real-world examples of surgery turning guys from ugly to good looking? I don't mean those side pics that cosmetic surgeons use for marketing, but actual photos of actual people (men specifically) before and after surgery.

ye look at the post above you the two first pics are of an incel who used this site. spent 25k on surgeries now he boasts about slaying whores on tinder every day

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

35? Hope it works cause sounds like over

 

[ThouShallObeyKing]

OP will change into post-plastic-surgery-fail monster

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

good luck nigga

 

[Deleted member 18193]

Do you know what the problem with your face is, OP?

 

[Deleted member 20536]

Do you know of any real-world examples of surgery turning guys from ugly to good looking? I don't mean those side pics that cosmetic surgeons use for marketing, but actual photos of actual people (men specifically) before and after surgery.

@crew2 what did you plan to get?

 

[Deleted member 21514]

Good luck bro i already gave up

 

[Flaccid_Dave]

They have ruined my life with this lie that I clung onto for so many wasted years

This line is painfully relatable. I feel embarrassed and ashamed that I was naive enough to believe it for so long.

My situation is similar to yours. I'm 34 and I'm going to be doing jaw surgery on the NHS to correct my mouth breather face. Need 2 visits to the table. I'll be shitting my pants when the day comes.

Best of luck Crew2.

Also, for those people who want photo evidence, check out r/jawsurgery or any jaw surgery video diary on youtube. Corrective jaw surgery does wonders for any face. Like one of those optical illusion pictures, it changes the eyes without actually changing the eyes.

 

[grondilu]

Damn, that was an intense read, OP.

I personally don't think surgery is the best option, but who am I to judge ?

I wish you the best you can get.

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It is very hard to believe this is the same guy.

 

[Emba]

Damn, that was an intense read, OP.

I personally don't think surgery is the best option, but who am I to judge ?

I wish you the best you can get.


It is very hard to believe this is the same guy.

Ears...

Good luck, KID!

 

[Deleted member 20536]

It is very hard to believe this is the same guy.

As an incel, thats the kind of result you want

 

[crew2]

This line is painfully relatable. I feel embarrassed and ashamed that I was naive enough to believe it for so long.

My situation is similar to yours. I'm 34 and I'm going to be doing jaw surgery on the NHS to correct my mouth breather face. Need 2 visits to the table. I'll be shitting my pants when the day comes.

Best of luck Crew2.

Also, for those people who want photo evidence, check out r/jawsurgery or any jaw surgery video diary on youtube. Corrective jaw surgery does wonders for any face. Like one of those optical illusion pictures, it changes the eyes without actually changing the eyes.

Thanks bud.

Oh wow, really? Can you please stay in touch with me to let me know how it goes?

Did you go to see a therapist to get the ball rolling on that i.e. telling him that you are suicidal about your looks until they offered it? It's something I've thought about sometimes and let's face it it's true in my case as much as it likely is in yours by the sound of things.

Don't listen to him op use this link https://looksmax.org/threads/part-2-of-guide-height-and-the-rest-included.71632/

Great stuff, thanks.

 

[crew2]

Do you know what the problem with your face is, OP?

I think I have a decent shaped jaw, maybe a bit too wide but that's likely because I have a big head, but the problem is I have a bloated face no matter how good my diet is or how low body fat I am so I'm thinking of buccal fat removal for that. My eyes are a bit too big too, at least I think and under them are bags/little support. Big forehead but I have had a hair transplant and plan on getting another one soon.

There's a tendency to write off surgerymaxing on this forum but it's the most legit way to get out of inceldom

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Amazing. Any idea how much something like that would cost with that Igor Alves guy? He does amazing stuff.

 

[mentalcel]

Go for it OP. Don't listen to those say 35 is too late. A face with right proportions, a straight hairline and good skin makes someone look easily 8-10 years younger. Also for chad age just adds charisma so looking old is not a big issue if you become handsome enough.

 

[crew2]

Go for it OP. Don't listen to those say 35 is too late. A face with right proportions, a straight hairline and good skin makes someone look easily 8-10 years younger. Also for chad age just adds charisma so looking old is not a big issue if you become handsome enough.

Thanks. True. If Chris Hemsworth can do it why can't I?...except for the fact that he's about 6 points above me on the looks scale of course

I think 40+ if when I've noticed even non-famous good looking guys become practically invisible to women.

 

[iKillCucks]

Ascend or die bro

 

[BachusPL]

Good luck. Surgerymaxxing is the only hope for us, bro

 

[FinnCel]

Saddest part is
You will never get lost years back. The women around you are old and have had many dicks and children

 

[InMyCellInHell]

Good luck man. Give us a trip report before/after just to tell us what (if anything) has changed if possible.

 

[ThirdWorldcel]

Just pay for 4 or 5 high-end escorts bro.

On this day and age you'd most likely be able to just an obese single mother 5-10 years older than you.

 

[HonkHonkHonk]

It won't work.
Spend your money on copes

This. Unless they plan to spend insane money on surgergy then chances are they'll end up even uglier than before.

Saddest part is
You will never get lost years back. The women around you are old and have had many dicks and children

Also basically this. The absolute latest to turn your life around is like 18-20.
By 35 you have missed out on everything.

Might as well spend your money on copes.

 

[FukFeminism]

Good luck, I hope it's not too late for your