I know about the finasteride and treatments, but thats not a guarantee.
If i go bald I will rope no question. I have an eggman shaped head.
If i go bald I will rope no question. I have an eggman shaped head.
Depends on your body shape as well, if you're skinny and weak looking you'll look pathetic bald, if you're a bigger guy it can look okay though if you grow a beard
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HAIR TRANSPLANT. How is this even question? It's such an easy fix.
CopingGymcel said:
its not if u arent on fin, and fin is risky
yeah, everything past nw2 is ugly, nw2 is borderline bald, u can run cover up game and shit
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dr-problematic said:
In what way is it risky? Have you even read all the studies? You have a higher chance of getting killed crossing the road.
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Just wear a baseball cap 24/7.
dr-problematic said:
Fin is the only real solution. HT you still need fin to make sure your new hair doesn't fall out
Tbh if you are NW2+ and not on fin you are a coward and have learned nothing from all these forums
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St.Tropez said:
Your new hair follicles won't fall out, because they're taken from a DHT resistant site... It's the hair around your new hair that has yet to fall out you are taking fin for. You don't want two huge bald spots right in the middle of your hairline.
CopingGymcel said:
The problem is your blood flow gets reduced and your new hair will suffer. DHT also builds up and makes problems down the line.
Really you need fin it is the only real cure as it hits the root of problem and has proven visible results
I would say even at NW2 that it is probably smart to hop on it.
Before you consider any hair transplants or finasteride or any other bullshit that might be a waste of money, shave your head 100% bald for a few weeks. Try growing a beard as well.
If you don't like it at all, then you can try that other stuff.
Please keep in mind that with a hair transplant you will need to use minoxidil for the rest of your life, possibly finasteride as well if minox doesn't hold back the hair loss.
If you don't like it at all, then you can try that other stuff.
Please keep in mind that with a hair transplant you will need to use minoxidil for the rest of your life, possibly finasteride as well if minox doesn't hold back the hair loss.
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St.Tropez said:
You can apply minoxidil for that tbh.
I am not saying to not use fin. It's stupid to not use it. I use it myself with no problems whatsoever.
BlackPillDealer said:
95% of people look terrible bald. What makes you think that an incel will look bald? You're only suggesting something that will make him look horrible until it grows out. Not worth the pain for that extremely low chance he looks good bald.
BlackPillDealer said:
Fin costs like 5 dollars lol.
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St.Tropez said:
Not being on fin when you are balding is stupidity, but you should be able to keep your new hair follicles without it.
CopingGymcel said:
Yeah no worries I understood your post.
CopingGymcel said:
tell it to loads of other dudes who got gyno and impotence
I'm nw7 and I don't care
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dr-problematic said:
LOL. Just lol at listening to hypochondriacs online. Where is the evidence? Some posts on Reddit? Just fucking lol at being this stupid.
Impotence can happen to anyone at any time, it doesn't have to be related to finasteride. Just because you take fin for 3 years and then become impotent, that's not always going to be because of fin.
Where are all these cases of impotence and gyno in the huge no conflict of interest studies done? A few people had a hard time getting hard, but it returned back to normal once drug use was sized.
CopingGymcel said:
just lol @ ur naivity, it's called hormonal therapy for reason, that's why u cant buy it without prescription in regular pharmacy
St.Tropez said:
No with a hair transplant you have to worry that the rest of your hair won't fall out. The transplanted hair will stay, but the rest may fall out unless you use finasteride and/or minoxidil. So you might end up going bald and then have a weird line of hair where it was transplanted, in addition to possibly scarring on your neck which is where they extract the hairs usually.
So before even considering a hair transplant you should try minoxidil at least, see if it holds back the hair loss. Finasteride you can maybe try after that, but it can have side effects which may not appear until after using it for years. For me it did have pretty bad side effects, worse if you are a mentalcel.
CopingGymcel said:
He's an incel, he will never look good enough anyway, so why bother spending thousands of dollars on HT or risk side effects with fin when there is no actual benefit?
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dr-problematic said:
Reducing DHT will cause sexual side-effects in some men, that is true, and the studies prove this. However, once those men stop using finasteride, their DHT levels go back to normal and their dicks start functioning properly again. That's what happened to ALL of the men who experienced sexual sides in all of the major studies done. Lots of participants spanning over many years. No conflict of interest. Peer reviewed.
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Stuff people say online on Reddit.
... I'm not quite sure what to trust. On one side we have Reddit, the forefront of the scientific movement and on other side we have silly scientists with their "scientific methods."
When I shower, few hairs fall off. Am I balding? Is your whole hair supposed to be strong enough that no hair falls off? I wanna know so I can get into some treatment ASAP.
dr-problematic said:
You can buy propecia without subscription.
Octopusgun2 said:
Lol no. Hair falling out is totally normal and natural. Dont worry.
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Hairs do fall out during the day, but if it's enough to become apparent and you start seeing lots of strands of hairs in the shower drain, then you're probably balding to some degree. Could just be temporary shedding.Octopusgun2 said:
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CopingGymcel said:
I read it ages you because of collagen issues.
CopingGymcel said:
jfl if u only browse reddit on web. there are shit loads of hairloss forums where the topic of finasteride and its effects on one's health is brought up regularly, and negative sides are confirmed by regular patients of androgenic alopecia.
go to endycrynologist and talk to them about possible effects of finasteride on ur hormonal balance and effluent consquences.
it's been proven overall that those sides are as real as it gets, and percentages in this life are irrelevant, they dont work. some smoke, drink and sniff heroin and live to 90 and some vegans with healthy lifestyles de at 22. therefore when swallowing pills of fin u gotta make a conscious choice and understand that u might become impotent or develop shit like gynecomastia.
but ur bias on this topic is pretty understandable since u r takin it already.
CopingGymcel said:
This is just my personal experience and I'm probably a rare case, but I got some pretty severe side effects from finasteride and only took one pill. I can confirm it wasn't just me being a hypochondriac because I actually measured my DHT levels. After one pill it went down to around 60pg/mL which is half of the minimum amount that it should be for a male over the age of 19 years old.
Additionally my other hormone levels went crazy. Progesterone was higher than the normal range, estradiol was lower, total testosterone was on the edge of being below normal, SHBG was that of an 80 year old man and so on.
Symptoms included erectile dysfunction (not complete impotence though), no libido at all, watery jizz, heightened anxiety, dick pain and cold dick, random testicle pain, muscle cramps, trouble sleeping and an increase in oily skin and acne that I haven't had since I was a teenager towards the end. This lasted for about 4 months, then my hormone levels returned to normal and now I feel OK.
I had considered escortceling before, but this was actually the reason I decided to go through with it. I was like shit, if I'm fucked I might as well fuck some hoes whatever.
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dr-problematic said:
Chronic side-effects have yet to be proven.
Millions of men take finasteride and they don't visit forums to talk about their "bad experiences" with drugs. They're completely fine, going about their day with their hairline intact. Take that as you will.
The chance of you actually getting permanent side-effects from taking fin (if it's even possible) are extremely low and I'm willing to roll that dice tbh.
its over for nw2 and nw3 cels
"Just get surgery bruh" like it's 9.99 at wal mart.CopingGymcel said:
It's too expensive for a brokecel.
buy a hair system
CopingGymcel said:
I've already linked you to a study that shows this simply ain't the case. Take drugs meant for MtF trannies if you want, but don't act like this isn't a serious medication with a serious side effect profile. Your personal experience means very little. I personally get no side effects from Truvada but I'm not about to delude myself that it's just the same as taking a paracetamol tablet, jfc.
Wipe!
Wipe!
Wipe!
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itsOVER said:
Yeah and the same study admitted to have a selection bias.....
There is a correlation but it's not 100% certain and almost every drug has side effects. There will be people with no effects and people with side effects it's just happening
Octopusgun2 said:
History of balding in your family?
Everyone loses hair per day and that is only natural.
Make photos of your hairline every month and compare them to identify it early
Facade said:
If no one got long term sexual sides from fin there wouldn't be any 'selection' of people for the study.
The selection was those who suffered sexual sides from fin - of which we know there are many. It even tells you so on the label. Of these people, 20% had long term issues. That's not 'struck by lightning' type chances. That's a serious risk especially when you consider the consequence is life ruining.
Take fin if you want but don't act like it's no big deal. These aren't vitamin C tablets.
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itsOVER said:
No case of balding in my family and I have thick hair.
It's certainly not a vitamin c tablet or anything like that but balding is a literal death sentence for most men.Yes the problem does exist but more research needs to be done in order to assess the risk accurately. Maybe men should meet certain & strict requirements in the future to minimize the risk? It could work if the medical community gets a greater understanding of how certain individuals might react to DHT blocking
Everyone needs to make their own decisions at the end. It's likely that I'll never need it
"An important limitation to this study is selec-
tion bias, in that those most affected by finasteride
are more likely to participate in a study such as this
one." ---> We need more research to assess the risk better
Akarin said:
Are you serious? How is that even possible at your age? I thought you were low T too....
Facade said:
Here's the thing though - losing the use of your dick is an ACTUAL death sentence. Granted it's not THAT likely, but if 5% gets sexual sides (literature says 2% but it'll be higher than that as ED is embarrssing, and so will be underreported) and 20% of those get them long term, that's a 1% chance of essentially ruining your life irreversibly. Too high of a risk IMO for probably the worst side effect any medication on the planet can give you.
Now, consider a TON of people on fin do not need it. Put it this way. Let's say you start fin at NW2 and keep all your hair. Great. But you might never have progressed beyond NW2 anyway. Or you might have progressed but only to NW3 or NW4, which could be entirely resolved with a transplant and no fin. It's onlyESSENTIAL for those destined for NW5+ and even then a cost benefit analysis should be run (I.e if you go bald in your 50s, does it even matter at that point?).
My position is this. With 8000 grafts of donor hair, you should be good for around 10-15 years after you start balding even if you're destined to be NW6 by just getting hair transplants. That'll be all your prime years and you don't have to worry about fin. Past age 40 it's not as important as slaying days are over then. And if you'd never go bald, just go NW3 or whatever, taking fin is a terrible risky move.
Ryo_Hazuki said:
Unfortunately yes. And balding has nothing in common with testosterone. A lot of factors affected my baldness : hypothyroidism, seborrhoeic dermatisis, and obviously shit genes. All of my mother's brothers are bald, her father was as well.
Akarin said:
This almost sounds like a joke tbh
Akarin said:
I know how mpb works. It's caused by DHT which is a byproduct of testosterone.
How old are you again? I thought you were early 20s?
I never saw your face I only saw the legs you posted and that combined with your avatar makes me imagine you being some cute trap. I can't imagine you being NW7.
Ryo_Hazuki said:
21, was nw3 at 16
I'm nw2 but I think I always was. How do I know if I'm balding? I can't really tell in pictures of me as a kid because I had medium length hair covering my hairline. I have eggman tier forehead and it kills me inside. I can't go past nw2 or it's suicide.
or even worse, this is the level I've seen my hair for the last time
I started to shave since then
I started to shave since then
Akarin said:
Fuck, I can see why you're on this forum now.
I knew a few guys like that, who were NW5 or worse in their early 20s. People always thought they were way older than their actual age. All of them were incel too.
Ryo_Hazuki said:
If you are past NW3, it is time to be bald.
Ryo_Hazuki said:
I wouldn't look much better with hair and my baldness didn't stop me from losing virginity. My oneitisism did.
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Akarin said:or even worse, this is the level I've seen my hair for the last time
I started to shave since then
Shit and your fetish for young girls isn't helping
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so... y arnt u on fin yet?Grain_of_sin said:
i ordered 6 month supply of fin. waiting to arrive. if that dont work i use dut. im nw2 theres no fkn way im living on this earth a nw3+
i shouldve started a year and half ago while i was still NW1 dont wait
i shouldve started a year and half ago while i was still NW1 dont wait
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