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I just read an article written by a therapist, and he has obviously no idea what he is talking about:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/minority-report/201706/involuntary-celibacy
Quote: "The Centers for Disease Control calculates 27.2% of men and 28.6% of women are sexless in the 15-24 age bracket. Despite this being equally prevalent in both sexes, it is men who express the dissatisfaction, possibly due to skewed Western societal views that equate sex with masculinity, success, and relational happiness."
Not having sex is not always the same as involuntary celibacy. But the speculations why it is males who are must frustrated is ridiculous. Males and females lives on two different planets what sexuality are concerned. There is a reason why it is women who sell sex and men who buys it. Even when men are selling sex, the majority of the customers are men. The majority who watch lesbian porn is not lesbian women, but straight guys. And so on. It has nothing to do with cultural views about masculinity and success. It's about sexual frustration and not being able to find release. It's not a social or cultural issue, it's a physical issue.
"Unfortunately, it doesn't stop at frustration as it can lead to misogynistic views against women and even lead to violence. References to being romantically spurned by women and seeing themselves as "incels" is a commonality among recent deadly mass school shooters involving young men."
Yes, being rejected again and again and again can turn a person bitter. But just because many, maybe even the majority of those involved in school shootings, are sexually frustrated, doesn't mean sexually frustrated men in general are dangerous.
"Young men who struggle with finding romantic partners are finding solace in their shared experience with each other."
There is a difference between not finding a girlfriend and involuntary celibacy. It is fully possible to have one night stands and uncommitted relationships without having a so-called "serious" relationship with someone.
"Rodger killed six people and described his actions as vengeance against attractive women for denying him sex and affection."
If someone kills someone because of sexual frustration, doesn't that say something about the hell those who suffering from it goes through? Not that it is an excuse. But most people who goes through the same would never hurt someone. What they are experiencing is a double frustration. First there is sexual frustration of course, and then there is the frustration that society doesn't seem to care. A lot of research has been done about how to improve someone's sexlife, how to add spice to your sexlife, but society in general doesn't seem to give a damn about those who can't find a sexual partner. Even worse is it that someone seems to mock those stuck in this situation. When you feel that the world and society refuse to take a problem that many straight males are suffering from seriously, it only makes it worse. There has been suggestion that something should be done to help for instance people in wheelchairs to get sex, but nobody sees those who are socially handicapped in one way or another.
"If you or someone you know may feel this is their situation, I do believe there's hope in community. I'm not so sure an "Incel community" is what is needed as opposed to relationships with people who have stronger social and dating skills. It's sad to feel you aren't equipped to be in a romantic relationship because we all have traits that are desirable and wanted in a relationship, but we do need to take extra risks and sometimes disappointment to get what we want."
Well, sometimes it probably helps finding someone in the same situation as themselves, who does not reject, mock, ignore, laugh or misunderstand, but instead understand exactly what its all about. Sure, if you join such a community as a teenager and is still a member when you are middle aged, repeating the same thing over and over, it has probably served its purpose a long time ago. But as a place to find others instead of locking it all up, it can help a lot more than talking to a therapist unable to understand or care. Has it ever occurred to the genius that the lack of relationships is one of the reasons why they have ended up in the situation in the first place? The advice is just as stupid as telling someone who suffers from loneliness to find some friends are a way to cure the loneliness. And yes, most people have traits that in general are desired, but as a whole they are not considered good enough for a woman. That's not imagination, but a fact. And many guys have taken a lot of risks and been through a lot of disappointments before they give up.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/minority-report/201706/involuntary-celibacy
Quote: "The Centers for Disease Control calculates 27.2% of men and 28.6% of women are sexless in the 15-24 age bracket. Despite this being equally prevalent in both sexes, it is men who express the dissatisfaction, possibly due to skewed Western societal views that equate sex with masculinity, success, and relational happiness."
Not having sex is not always the same as involuntary celibacy. But the speculations why it is males who are must frustrated is ridiculous. Males and females lives on two different planets what sexuality are concerned. There is a reason why it is women who sell sex and men who buys it. Even when men are selling sex, the majority of the customers are men. The majority who watch lesbian porn is not lesbian women, but straight guys. And so on. It has nothing to do with cultural views about masculinity and success. It's about sexual frustration and not being able to find release. It's not a social or cultural issue, it's a physical issue.
"Unfortunately, it doesn't stop at frustration as it can lead to misogynistic views against women and even lead to violence. References to being romantically spurned by women and seeing themselves as "incels" is a commonality among recent deadly mass school shooters involving young men."
Yes, being rejected again and again and again can turn a person bitter. But just because many, maybe even the majority of those involved in school shootings, are sexually frustrated, doesn't mean sexually frustrated men in general are dangerous.
"Young men who struggle with finding romantic partners are finding solace in their shared experience with each other."
There is a difference between not finding a girlfriend and involuntary celibacy. It is fully possible to have one night stands and uncommitted relationships without having a so-called "serious" relationship with someone.
"Rodger killed six people and described his actions as vengeance against attractive women for denying him sex and affection."
If someone kills someone because of sexual frustration, doesn't that say something about the hell those who suffering from it goes through? Not that it is an excuse. But most people who goes through the same would never hurt someone. What they are experiencing is a double frustration. First there is sexual frustration of course, and then there is the frustration that society doesn't seem to care. A lot of research has been done about how to improve someone's sexlife, how to add spice to your sexlife, but society in general doesn't seem to give a damn about those who can't find a sexual partner. Even worse is it that someone seems to mock those stuck in this situation. When you feel that the world and society refuse to take a problem that many straight males are suffering from seriously, it only makes it worse. There has been suggestion that something should be done to help for instance people in wheelchairs to get sex, but nobody sees those who are socially handicapped in one way or another.
"If you or someone you know may feel this is their situation, I do believe there's hope in community. I'm not so sure an "Incel community" is what is needed as opposed to relationships with people who have stronger social and dating skills. It's sad to feel you aren't equipped to be in a romantic relationship because we all have traits that are desirable and wanted in a relationship, but we do need to take extra risks and sometimes disappointment to get what we want."
Well, sometimes it probably helps finding someone in the same situation as themselves, who does not reject, mock, ignore, laugh or misunderstand, but instead understand exactly what its all about. Sure, if you join such a community as a teenager and is still a member when you are middle aged, repeating the same thing over and over, it has probably served its purpose a long time ago. But as a place to find others instead of locking it all up, it can help a lot more than talking to a therapist unable to understand or care. Has it ever occurred to the genius that the lack of relationships is one of the reasons why they have ended up in the situation in the first place? The advice is just as stupid as telling someone who suffers from loneliness to find some friends are a way to cure the loneliness. And yes, most people have traits that in general are desired, but as a whole they are not considered good enough for a woman. That's not imagination, but a fact. And many guys have taken a lot of risks and been through a lot of disappointments before they give up.
