RageFuel If your parents weren’t pushing you to get a gf in high school they failed you.

[Murder Mario]

Not much else needs to be said. If they just left you to rot in front of a screen, they neglected you during your crucial developmental years. While everyone else was reaching milestones, your parents allowed you to be left behind, and thus failed you.

 

[Zozizo]

they did & it still failed jfl

 

[weaselbomber]

My parents were too busy arguing 24/7 to give a shit about what I did

 

[Ellsworth]

They never ever pushed or even suggested I have a relationship like a normal person. They never cared for my happiness.

 

[Lonelyus]

When i walked in a city with them, Mom keeps pointing, Look pretty women, I keep saying im too ugly for them then mom takes me over there and the girls just laugh at me, Its over for ugly ppl but she wont understand!

 

[Angry_runt]

If the reason you didn't have a gf in hs is because you weren't pushed into it by somebody, you're a fakecel. Or gay or asexual or mentally ill or some shit.

 

[Zozizo]

Just conserve your money and invest in good copes.

yeah I know I'm not the lovable type of dude I'm nothing for foids

 

[Murder Mario]

If the reason you didn't have a gf in hs is because you weren't pushed into it by somebody, you're a fakecel. Or gay or asexual or mentally ill or some shit.

Who knows exactly but this is flawed logic because you’re ignoring the importance of having proper social development and previous experience.

 

[Angry_runt]

Who knows exactly but this is flawed logic because you’re ignoring the importance of having proper social development and previous experience.

Most of us are incels because we're ugly or short. If you're incel because you're a pussy or mentally ill, that's a different class of problem that you should work on.

 

[AntisocialNihilist]

My parents were too busy arguing 24/7 to give a shit about what I did

they did & it still failed jfl

They were too busy yelling about my academics

My people.

 

[Murder Mario]

Most of us are incels because we're ugly or short. If you're incel because you're a pussy or mentally ill, that's a different class of problem that you should work on.

Read my post again retard, I said nothing about being a pussy or mentally ill.

 

[Angry_runt]

Read my post again retard, I said nothing about being a pussy or mentally ill.

If you're incel for reasons other than not being attractive, that means you're attractive.
So the only reason you would still be sexless is if you're a pussy or because you're mentally ill or a combination of the two.

 

[Murder Mario]

If you're incel for reasons other than not being attractive, that means you're attractive.
So the only reason you would still be sexless is if you're a pussy or because you're mentally ill or a combination of the two.

The only one who’s a pussy is you for not addressing what I said directly.

 

[Angry_runt]

The only one who’s a pussy is you for not addressing what I said directly.

So why don't you go meet girls and ascend? What's stopping you?

 

[Murder Mario]

So why don't you go meet girls and ascend? What's stopping you?

Why don’t you address what I said, what’s stopping you?

 

[FuckingHateMyLife]

My parents were too busy arguing 24/7 to give a shit about what I did

 

[der_komische]

my mom tried to get me together with the daughter of the cousin of my father. Otherwise they never helped me with anything and just blamed all the bullying and isolation i experienced on me

 

[Angry_runt]

Why don’t you address what I said, what’s stopping you?

You didn't say anything, you're just protecting your ego from facing the facts that you're either a pussy or mentally ill or a combination of the two.
It's really simple:
when you see a girl checking you out, go up to her and tell her she's cute and ask for her insta or snap or whatever
if you don't do this because you're afraid of rejection - you're a pussy
if you can't do this because you'd sperg out - you're mentally ill
if you can't do this because girls are not checking you out - you're ugly and your parents wouldn't have made a difference
And you're an absolute brainlet for not realizing this without me explaining.

 

[Murder Mario]

You didn't say anything,

Yes I did, you’re not addressing this:

you’re ignoring the importance of having proper social development and previous experience.

Does social development matter? Does previous experience matter?

Why can’t you answer this? You’re the one who is being evasive.

 

[Angry_runt]

Does social development matter? Does previous experience matter?
Why can’t you answer this? You’re the one who is being evasive.

Everything matters to a point, but not so much that it would make you an incel.
No one had experience in X before experiencing X. Every guy lost his virginity while being a virgin. And every guy approached his first girl while never having approached a girl before. So a lack of experience will trip you up once, but at second attempt you'll have some experience in the thing that tripped you up.

And if for whatever reason you can't go over to a girl and say like 3 sentences, then you're mentally ill. Or a pussy. Or a combination of the two.

 

[ShortUglyBald]

What would this change for 2/10 truecel outcast ?

 

[ClinicallyDeformed]

These fuckers knew from the get go i was beyond fucked, all thanks to them. Man do i thoroughly despise them.

 

[Murder Mario]

Everything matters to a point, but not so much that it would make you an incel.
No one had experience in X before experiencing X. Every guy lost his virginity while being a virgin. And every guy approached his first girl while never having approached a girl before. So a lack of experience will trip you up once, but at second attempt you'll have some experience in the thing that tripped you up.

And if for whatever reason you can't go over to a girl and say like 3 sentences, then you're mentally ill. Or a pussy. Or a combination of the two.

Most guys lose virginity in high school though. When everyone else is inexperienced.

Why are milestones and falling behind so talked about on here.

 

[Angry_runt]

Most guys lose virginity in high school though. When everyone else is inexperienced.

So if inexperience is your problem, you just get some experience by doing the thing you want experience in. Like if you didn't know how to kiss at 14 years old, your high school girlfriend would've cut you some slack to figure it out. If you don't know how to kiss at 24, chances are the girl will be turned off and leave. But she'll leave you more experienced. So if experience is your main problem, it's a problem that's solved by trying the thing.

Why are milestones and falling behind so talked about on here.

Because falling behind and missing developmental milestones are obstacles that will affect you and damage you mentally. But they're obstacles, and obstacles can be overcome. If you're so damaged that you can't overcome not having had a girlfriend in high school, then you're mentally ill.
If you're physically attractive enough to get a girlfriend (which you're saying you are if you think you're incel because your parents didn't push you) and you're not mentally ill, then even if you've fallen behind you can catch up enough to not be an incel.

To reiterate: if you're physically attractive enough to get a girlfriend but you're not mentally ill, then you don't belong here.

 

[Murder Mario]

So if inexperience is your problem, you just get some experience by doing the thing you want experience in. Like if you didn't know how to kiss at 14 years old, your high school girlfriend would've cut you some slack to figure it out. If you don't know how to kiss at 24, chances are the girl will be turned off and leave. But she'll leave you more experienced. So if experience is your main problem, it's a problem that's solved by trying the thing.


Because falling behind and missing developmental milestones are obstacles that will affect you and damage you mentally. But they're obstacles, and obstacles can be overcome. If you're so damaged that you can't overcome not having had a girlfriend in high school, then you're mentally ill.
If you're physically attractive enough to get a girlfriend (which you're saying you are if you think you're incel because your parents didn't push you) and you're not mentally ill, then even if you've fallen behind you can catch up enough to not be an incel.

To reiterate: if you're physically attractive enough to get a girlfriend but you're not mentally ill, then you don't belong here.

what if social awkwardness is the issue, how are you supposed to develop socially with adults who ditch you off the bat? This includes being locked out of social circles.

 

[Asgard]

If the reason you didn't have a gf in hs is because you weren't pushed into it by somebody, you're a fakecel. Or gay or asexual or mentally ill or some shit.

People are attacking me on my other thread for not reading a big-ass disclaimer. This forum is clearly full of fakecels who never tried in a setting like school. Maybe some of these fakecels do have an actual social circle outside this forum. This is the internet, TBH. Some didn't ever try, but got uglier years after puberty (fat, becoming a deformed freak...)... that's understandable unless you considered yourself 'incel' back then.

I would love to see some of these idiots experiencing rejections (and being friendzoned) by actual teenage women. I would love to see their reaction.

 

[Friezacel]

Deep down they probably knew that it nevER began for me

 

[Angry_runt]

what if social awkwardness is the issue, how are you supposed to develop socially with adults who ditch you off the bat? This includes being locked out of social circles.

Just walk up to a girl and tell her she's cute and ask for some way to contact her (insta, snap, phone #).
Or install a dating app (because you're apparently attractive enough to get a girlfriend) and practice talking on the phone or going on dates with unattractive girls until you smooth out your awkwardness.

If you're so awkward that you have zero chance of success or improvement, then you're not "awkward" but autistic (mentally ill).

 

[Namtriz912]

If they wanted you to do well it would've started much earlier being breastfed, not having helicopter parents but allowed to explore and make mistakes and by school you'd have a loving environment and people would naturally gravitate towards you setting you up for success

 

[Murder Mario]

Just walk up to a girl and tell her she's cute and ask for some way to contact her (insta, snap, phone #).
Or install a dating app (because you're apparently attractive enough to get a girlfriend) and practice talking on the phone or going on dates with unattractive girls until you smooth out your awkwardness.

Normie looking men cannot get laid on dating apps.

If you're so awkward that you have zero chance of success or improvement, then you're not "awkward" but autistic (mentally ill).

Or you missed the boat of normal development.

 

[MiSKiRaT]

Not much else needs to be said. If they just left you to rot in front of a screen, they neglected you during your crucial developmental years. While everyone else was reaching milestones, your parents allowed you to be left behind, and thus failed you.

this sucks man I just overheard some normtard talking about getting a 400 dollar jacket from his parents. My family will never pay anything for me or surprise me with anything.

 

[NorthernWind]

If you're incel because you're a pussy or mentally ill, that's a different class of problem that you should work on.

Being mentally ill is innate and being a 'pussy' is usually a consequence of your body not producing enough testosterone. This also doesn't depend on how you act, it's depends on being born defective.
Imagine saying to a person with Down syndrome to act 'normal'.

 

[Angry_runt]

Being mentally ill is innate and being a 'pussy' is usually a consequence of your body not producing enough testosterone. This also doesn't depend on how you act, it's depends on being born defective.
Imagine saying to a person with Down syndrome to act 'normal'.

Being a pussy is just being a coward. Most people are cowards in some situations and pretty much no guy will approach a woman without shitting himself. But you can desensitize yourself to anything with some effort so there is a solution.

As for mental illness, that's potentially a lot harder but there's degrees of severity and some can be treated with medication or forms of therapy.

But OP is saying that he's still incel because he didn't have a girlfriend in high school or something like that. Like if only his parents told him he should get a girlfriend, then he would have gotten a girlfriend.

 

[NorthernWind]

Being a pussy is just being a coward. Most people are cowards in some situations and pretty much no guy will approach a woman without shitting himself. But you can desensitize yourself to anything with some effort so there is a solution.

You talk about 'regular' experiences of 'regular' people.
And I mean specific situation where someone might act like pussy. For example if your body doesn't produces enough testosterone, you will act not 'manly' enough and will lack manly 'energetics'.
And for women nothing is more disgusting than a feminine man. Even ugly males have much more chances to ascend.
Also if being pussy is just being a coward, why it's specifically 'pussy' ? Female sexual organ?
Why people say 'grow a pair'? Or 'have a balls'? Maybe because having normal development of male sexual organs will lead one to not be a pussy?
Eunuchs were observed to be a cowards.

 

[Angry_runt]

You talk about 'regular' experiences of 'regular' people.
And I mean specific situation where someone might act like pussy. For example if your body doesn't produces enough testosterone, you will act not 'manly' enough and will lack manly 'energetics'.
And for women nothing is more disgusting than a feminine man. Even ugly males have much more chances to ascend.
Also if being pussy is just being a coward, why it's specifically 'pussy' ? Female sexual organ?
Why people say 'grow a pair'? Or 'have a balls'? Maybe because having normal development of male sexual organs will lead one to not be a pussy?
Eunuchs were observed to be a cowards.

This is broscience testosterone worship. I'm sure t-levels have an effect in how you behave, but it's not like you have to achieve some superhuman feat. Just go over to a girl and tell her she's cute and ask her for her number or whatever. If you're too afraid, you're a coward. If you think testosterone will help you then get roids, I dunno.

As for feminine vs masculine men, where do you think this guy is on that scale?

 

[Autistic Uggo]

It's utterly bizarre how most parents don't stress the importance of this milestone. I guess normies just assume it comes as naturally as learning to talk and walk.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

They failed me then

 

[incelsexaddict]

My parents are religion purity-fags who didn't want me to have a gf until college. I was always kinda a social autist but they kicked my sperginess into overdrive. I could have ascended with normal parents.

 

[w1818alone]

They failed

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

Not much else needs to be said. If they just left you to rot in front of a screen, they neglected you during your crucial developmental years. While everyone else was reaching milestones, your parents allowed you to be left behind, and thus failed you.

Based. Teen love pill again. Teenage years are THE years to do whatever you can to get a gf. Even if you have subpar looks. JBF game is possible. I was incredibly shy and parents were completely fine with me just gaming, studymaxxing and staying out of trouble, meanwhile I was missing out on the most important milestone of life.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

Teen love pill threads are always the most brutal.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

My parents were too busy arguing 24/7 to give a shit about what I did

Mine too. Dysfunctionnal couples have become a rampant problem, and they are always the foids fault, as she's the selector.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

I could have ascended with normal parents.

 

[incelsexaddict]

I never claimed to be a trucel. Just a 5'6 sperg. But height doesn't matter as much in high school so even manlets could ascend and proceed with life normally. I missed that though so now I'm a 23 year old 5'6 autist with absolutely no experience.

 

[asocialcel]

My mom thought I was gay cause I never got a gf

 

[Béla Tarr - Vol. I]

my delusional parents thought I was having girls over while they were away working, it's easier for them to think that everything is perfect than to actually care about me

 

[erenyeager]

Not much else needs to be said. If they just left you to rot in front of a screen, they neglected you during your crucial developmental years. While everyone else was reaching milestones, your parents allowed you to be left behind, and thus failed you.

Nonsense

 

[wastedcodeine]

they did & it still failed jfl

 

[Serpents reign]

they did & it still failed jfl

I can't imagine any parent. Encouraging their son to pursue women in this modern era of false rape allegations and sexual harassment lawsuits.

 

[RegularManlet]

Would have been awful if they pushed me

My parents neglected me in other ways though