Lets be real guys if you have not ever started or held a conversation with a foid, had any foid show any interest in you, or have trouble talking to anyone in general by 21 you will never ascend you are hopeless. I hate seeing shit on how guys plan to ascend through surgerymaxxing, clothesmaxxing, or gymmaxxing, all that shit is a fucking bucket of lies, by 21 most foids are almost done with college and have been to numerous parties and been fucked by chads and normies from every square inch of the campus, most go to bars just to hook up on a one night stand with some douche bag chad. If you believe that ascension is possible and you are over 21 you are dead wrong, there is nothing you can do to catch up on all the years of missed experience, if you are young you have chances to fuck up and learn from your mistakes, when you are older the foids will not tolerate a novice man that has no idea what he's doing. You might as well slit you're wrist and drop dead if you believe in that shit , if you are born ugly you stay ugly, there is no hope and suicide is the only answer to ending your nightmare.
