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Venting If you have consistent access to prostitutes, you can't say you're a truecel.

It's illegal everywhere except a few counties Nevada, which I don't live in. In order for me to get hookers I have to go to Mexico.

In 99% of US its illegal

wtf. ive seen like "support sex workers" shit posted by high school libtards i thought it was legal but maybe that was in response to it becoming illgal. is it new that its illegal? and any chance of it changing in the future or its pretty permanently illegal?
 
Its an unwritten rule, since part of incel is "unable to form romantic relationship".
If being 'unable to form romantic relationship' was what makes you an incel, then femcels do exist. They can get sex easily or even a relationship but not with a man they are attracted to, and physical attraction is needed for a romantic relationship.
 
If being 'unable to form romantic relationship' was what makes you an incel, then femcels do exist. They can get sex easily or even a relationship but not with a man they are attracted to, and physical attraction is needed for a romantic relationship.

you're moving the goalposts dude, just shut the fuck up and give up
 
No counter to my last argument therefore i win this time

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no you don't win

Female (Not Allowed): Banned on sight, no exceptions. This is a male-only forum.
 
Ok so lets say you are right. Escortcels are having sex with prostitutes. Why are they posting here then?

They are still incels, because they can't get sex and/or relationships through typical courtship methods. Also all the other problems that came out of your inceldom (psychopathy, anxiety, personality traits, childhood trauma, etc) don't magically disappear after you have sex, you can't get rid of that shit

This is why I say ascension is a meme, you can't ever truly ascend as an incel because you are damaged goods

This is a forum for virgins

This is a forum for incels, you are again going based on personal definitions, if a guy on this site got married in his 30's and had sex with her 5 times before she divorced him and took all of his shit, if 10 years pass by and he hasn't had sex, under your definition he's not incel because he got a chance to betabux

We post here because we cant get laid. Escortcels are apparently getting laid so they should be banned

Escortcels are choosing to pursue alternative means to get laid, you seem like one of those idiots that is purposefully keeping himself a sex starved virgin for the sake of "fitting in" and holding onto your "I'm a real incel" trophy like its something you are proud of

The real question is why aren't trying to escortcel, if it isn't financial reasons or lack of availability, you have no excuse

And you are probably going to say 'escortcels have to pay a girl for sex therefore they are still incels' or some stupid shit. But wouldnt the same apply to beta buxxers?

Depends on the relationship dynamics, if he's in a "relationship" and he's only getting to have sex once every 6 months, he's basically no different than an escortcel, but most betabuxxers are having sex more regularly than that, the majority of men today are basically betabuxxers, but they get to have sex somewhat regularly

If I had a setup where I had a live in maid who fucked me whenever I wanted, I'd still come to this forum to talk to the members, but I'd stop referring to myself as incel, consistency is what matters

What would you call a married man who has sex with his wife once a year, would you call that guy a normie or an incel in denial, I'd say he's incel, because being "married" is just a label, he's essentially still just a sex starved incel, with the status of "being married", but his sexlife isn't really any better than a lot of us

Either way pretty soon prostitution is going to become more and more normalized around the world, and a lot more incels are going to become escortcels, you can keep trying to remain a "puritan" if you want but I find that ridiculous, its retarded to come online everyday and complain about being a virgin and never experiencing sex, yet never doing anything to get it, never pursuing any alternative methods, at that point I'd assume you just like the label of being a "virgin incel" because its like you are keeping yourself a virgin (again this doesn't count for all incels, some just don't have the resources or oppurtunity, but those that do have no excuse)

Would you like having guys who have been married for years posting here because they pay for 90% of the things in their relationship?

Depends on whether or not they plan to remain married or advise other men to get married, I'd prefer if most married men stay away
 
I rather want to have a driver licence, so I can drive to the gym instead of taking public transportation.

can't argue with you there
 
In this case, you're a validationcel. What you're describing also sounds more like TFL (True Forced Lonliness), which is about men just wanting one good woman in their lives, but not being able to get it
 
In this case, you're a validationcel. What you're describing also sounds more like TFL (True Forced Lonliness), which is about men just wanting one good woman in their lives, but not being able to get it

Me? I don't care about validation, where did I say that?
 
Me? I don't care about validation, where did I say that?
I meant "you" as in a person who's in the situation you described. Im using my phone, so im not as articulate as i usually am.
 
i cant even imagine myself getting naked and touching a girl , its painful to even imagine like some absurd dream.

Too real man.

Also giving money to women for having sex with you is cucked as hell. No way am I going to pay for a foids lavish shallow lifestyle for simply existing and performing a natural human behavior that they have purposefully denied from me.

Prostitution is simping, even if you get sex out of it
 
Rape isnt sex its sexual assault. Prositution isnt sex its a business transaction. The women needs to enjoy it for it to be called sex.
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Female worshipper because i know the definition of sex?

Also idk what point you are making by asking how babies are made. Sex in most cases but some are the result of rape.

You're confused about the definition of sex. A prostitute agrees (consents) to have sex with you by accepting your money. Agreeing to it and enjoying it are separate and different things.
 
Tbf, as an unattractive male myself, im going to get shit service for the ones i can afford n high class ones r out of my budget. Might as well jus rub one out myself n get it over with
 
Rape isnt sex its sexual assault. Prositution isnt sex its a business transaction. The women needs to enjoy it for it to be called sex.
LOL at caring about female pleasure.

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Sexual assault basically means that the man is unattractive – nothing else. Chad can rape a female and she would desire it. Prostitution is cucked though, but because it is about voluntary letting a female exploit your libido in exchange of your monetary resources, not because the female does not feel any sexual satisfaction during the sex session.

Basically this:
Rape = risky sex
Prostitution = cucked sex
 
Why would you base your definition on sex on female pleasure, if you do not care about it? It makes no sense at all.
Because the definition of sex is for both people to enjoy it. You are fucking her and she is fucking you. If both people cant say "i fucked her" and "i fucked him". Then it wasnt sex. This is why prostitution isnt sex. You fuck the girl but she doesnt fuck you back.
 
Because the definition of sex is for both people to enjoy it. You are fucking her and she is fucking you. If both people cant say "i fucked her" and "i fucked him". Then it wasnt sex. This is why prostitution isnt sex. You fuck the girl but she doesnt fuck you back.

you are literally the biggest troll ever or the most retarded person ever.

We already went over the defintion already earlier in this thread
 
you are literally the biggest troll ever or the most retarded person ever.

We already went over the defintion already earlier in this thread
You dont understand because sex is not black and white. There is a grey area and thats where you have trouble comprehending
 
You dont understand because sex is not black and white. There is a grey area and thats where you have trouble comprehending

the grey area would be anal or oral, not prostitution vs "free" sex
 
That would be a richcel tbh. I would never make out with a hooker cuz their pussy is fucking gross and filled with STDs which I don't want to have.
 
Because the definition of sex is for both people to enjoy it. You are fucking her and she is fucking you. If both people cant say "i fucked her" and "i fucked him". Then it wasnt sex. This is why prostitution isnt sex. You fuck the girl but she doesnt fuck you back.
Why would I care about anyone else’s pleasure than my own? If I do enjoy the sex session, why would I give any fuck about what the female thinks about it?
 
Why would I care about anyone else’s pleasure than my own? If I do enjoy the sex session, why would I give any fuck about what the female thinks about it?
Because you would be raping her. Has a woman ever asked to fuck you? The answer to that question should tell you everything
 
Sexual assault basically means that the man is unattractive – nothing else. Chad can rape a female and she would desire it. Prostitution is cucked though, but because it is about voluntary letting a female exploit your libido in exchange of your monetary resources, not because the female does not feel any sexual satisfaction during the sex session.

Basically this:
Rape = risky sex
Prostitution = cucked sex
It's basically a better version of betabuxxing, because at least she can't take half of your resources because she doesn't like you. Only the agreed upon payment.
 
Has a woman ever asked to fuck you? The answer to that question should tell you everything

That literally has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at all, it just seemed like nothing more than a "quick jab" at his character
 
That literally has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at all, it just seemed like nothing more than a "quick jab" at his character
No it has everything to do with the subject
 
Nah dude I want the whole thing sex is only part of the equation
 
I understand wanting a relationship is part of the incel experience, but the truth is "love" is a fleeting emotion and not real. Incel is mainly about sex. I will concede that the sex Chad gets is better than sex with a hooker, but banging hookers is still sex, and if you can access these consistently, you don't know the pain that UScels go through. I have to see all these hot girls scantily clad and I can't have any of them and I also can't go to a brothel for a release. All I can do is fap my circumcised dick which is only semi-satisfactory. If I could buy hookers on a consistent basis my mental health problems would be depleted by at least 50%. Now of course if you live where prostitutes are legal and they reject you, you're a truecel. But if you're a 4/10 who can't get a girlfriend but can get prostitutes frequently, you can't call yourself a "true"cel. Incel yes, truecel no.

Agreed. I would add that if you don't want to see prostitutes because you "want the be loved", then you're not truly black pilled.

No matter how many times you say "it's over", if you don't want to see whores it's probably because deep down you still hope you will ascend someday, thus you don't really believe it is over.
 
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A relationship I know its cucked but its also good for mental health

It really isn't, what you mean is having a "stable" relationship, one where you have control and there are roles, etc is good for mental health, that shit doesn't exist anymore (unless you are Chad), the average man is not in a stable relationship and is not at the peak of mental health for merely having an assigned hole to stick his dick in


Being a relationship is not a band aid for all your life's problems, and ironically being in a relationships as a low tier male is more stressful than being a single low tier male, because you have to keep up appearances, play mind games, and try yout best everyday to keep her from leaving or cheating on you, its an endless uphill battle, which is why I keep saying ascension does not exist, its a meme
 
It really isn't, what you mean is having a "stable" relationship, one where you have control and there are roles, etc is good for mental health, that shit doesn't exist anymore (unless you are Chad), the average man is not in a stable relationship and is not at the peak of mental health for merely having an assigned hole to stick his dick in


Being a relationship is not a band aid for all your life's problems, and ironically being in a relationships as a low tier male is more stressful than being a single low tier male, because you have to keep up appearances, play mind games, and try yout best everyday to keep her from leaving or cheating on you, its an endless uphill battle, which is why I keep saying ascension does not exist, its a meme
I would like the chad version please
 

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