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If you are a 5+ pure-mentalcel, what problem do you have with personality theory?

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If you are a mentalcel AND are somewhat below average to straight-up average looking then this thread is not directed at you.

If you are a mentalcel and are ever-so-slightly above average to significantly above average, and personality, anxiety, aspergers, and other mental issues are your only real problem (like @Facade, @CopingGymcel and others here), what problem do you have with IncelTears saying that it is your personality why you can't get a gf? Or do you agree with them?

Are there mentalcels here who have a bad personality (socially awkward, etc) but still hate the rhetoric that it is their personality why they can't get a gf? How do you reconcile the cognitive dissonance of knowing your personality is the problem but hating IncelTears' and other bluepillers' promotion of developing a better personality?
 
You don't understand that personality only applies to 4-6 range male. If you are above that, you can be aspie and still get laid. If you are below that, you are fucked and can do nothing
 
Personality is some what important but your looks are what people judge you on before you even got the chance to say something i dont believe in its over for sub 8 males but more sub 6 i think you need to be some what decent looking before people even listen to you
 
blackpill_incel said:
You don't understand that personality only applies to 4-6 range male. If you are above that, you can be aspie and still get laid. If you are below that, you are fucked and can do nothing

There are guys here who are 5-6+ and who just can't talk to girls because they are too socially awkward. Some guys here have Tinder matches but are too scared to type letters on a screen to them.
 
im an average/below average legit mentalcel. have been hospitalised for mentacelling. even for those mentalcels that are above average lookswise, it would be impossible for them to improve/change their personality. its something that normies who dont have a legit mental illness would not be able to understand
 
5+ mentalcels can as well have problem with being cucked by chads.
this question is more appropriate to 7+ mentalchads.
 
ropetomorrow said:
im an average/below average legit mentalcel. have been hospitalised for mentacelling. even for those mentalcels that are above average lookswise, it would be impossible for them to improve/change their personality. its something that normies who dont have a legit mental illness would not be able to understand

Just rewire your brain bro
 
FACEandLMS said:
There are guys here who are 5-6+ and who just can't talk to girls because they are too socially awkward. Some guys here have Tinder matches but are too scared to type letters on a screen to them.

Then they should therapymax and weedmax
 
With personality they don't mean niceness or generosity or all that crap. They mean confidence, swag, cockiness, wittiness etc which would only accompany good looks.
 
FACEandLMS said:
If you are a mentalcel AND are somewhat below average to straight-up average looking then this thread is not directed at you.

If you are a mentalcel and are ever-so-slightly above average to significantly above average, and personality, anxiety, aspergers, and other mental issues are your only real problem (like @Facade, @CopingGymcel and others here), what problem do you have with IncelTears saying that it is your personality why you can't get a gf? Or do you agree with them?

Are there mentalcels here who have a bad personality (socially awkward, etc) but still hate the rhetoric that it is their personality why they can't get a gf? How do you reconcile the cognitive dissonance of knowing your personality is the problem but hating IncelTears' and other bluepillers' promotion of developing a better personality?

my personality became this way because I used to be 2-3/10 - I had a pizzaface and was 6'7 at age 14. I was bullied from age 6 to 18. also I had prescription glasses of strength 700 so glasses were thick as fuck and retarded looking which also helped my bullying. cost me a 5000 euro surgery to get good eyesight

how can i ever expect to catch up?

THAT is my criticism against them. every attempt to improve my personality has been met with utter rejection and failure anyway.


Twisted said:
I always had autism but the personality traits that I have which IT believe are the cause of my inceldom were not intrisic. They were germated from years of hostility, obscurity and belittlement in my crucial developmental years.

Also if you think autism is something that can just be fixed overnight then you're no better than bluepilled normies telling incel looking guys that they just need confidence.

exactly. personality is just a joke, its the end result of all your life experiences and not something you have completely control over.

if u got fucked early in life by whatever circumstances. lol. good luck catching up
 
FeminismsCancer said:
With personality they don't mean niceness or generosity or all that crap. They mean confidence, swag, cockiness, wittiness etc which would only accompany good looks.

this.
in addition, average looking ones need to be nice and generous to make good betabux for femoids (PUA shits don't work absolutely).
 
In this society it's impossible for an incel to have a good personality because you have to be a blue piller/normie
 
If girls were attracted to me, I wouldn't be posting here.
 
Most of the people consider the word good personality to mean good person with noble charactar traits.
If by personality you mean all character traits, then yes, if you socially incapable it is your personality that keeps you incel, but when most people hear the word, they think of character traits like altruism, honesty, empathy, patience, etc. so saying their personality holds them back sounds like an attack and shaming.
 
The reason I have a bad personality is because of my looks.
 
cthulhucel said:
this.
in addition, average looking ones need to be nice and generous to make good betabux for femoids (PUA shits don't work absolutely).

That's only if you pursue the beta orbiter mating strategy. PUA stuff works to some extent for average looking guys, even slightly below average ones but they have to compensate with more wealth, status and looksmaxing. However it's not the magic bullet that the PUA coaches claim it to be, although definitely better than the beta orbiter strategy.
 
BlackPillDealer said:
That's only if you pursue the beta orbiter mating strategy. PUA stuff works to some extent for average looking guys, even slightly below average ones but they have to compensate with more wealth, status and looksmaxing. However it's not the magic bullet that the PUA coaches claim it to be, although definitely better than the beta orbiter strategy.

i'm not talking about what you pursue. i'm talking about what redditers think you should pursue when they're talking about personality shit.
for myself, i have practiced PUA shit for years with zero success. i apprieciate some of their view on how sex market works, but average men trying to be an alpha are just coping too hard.
 
Its not personality theory, its LMS. If you're 5 in looks but have no STATUS(which is part personality) then ur pretty much a mental cel
 
the problem with my personality is that I am

in love with blackpills and redpills before there were forums

and I always look for answers

I am also 100% anti-social by heart - I could have been a normie but was never meant to be

-----

so what are those problems?

WOMEN are like KIDS

they want chip trill and fun

They want you to be a blue pill person and yet act slightly detached at times ( a hint of mystery).

Meaning they want shallow shit

When someone like me starts to drop red pill hints because that's all I have in my head, it puts them off.

I've tried being myself a few times - telling exactly what comes to my mind and every time they are off put by my philosophy

You should simply be mega blue pill next to women and that's it.

All else is money, looks, status

this applies only to peoplewho are sub 8

chads can do almost anything
 
uninstall said:
the problem with my personality is that I am

in love with blackpills and redpills before there were forums

and I always look for answers

I am also 100% anti-social by heart - I could have been a normie but was never meant to be

-----

so what are those problems?

WOMEN are like KIDS

they want chip trill and fun

They want you to be a blue pill person and yet act slightly detached at times ( a hint of mystery).

Meaning they want shallow shit

When someone like me starts to drop red pill hints because that's all I have in my head, it puts them off.

I've tried being myself a few times - telling exactly what comes to my mind and every time they are off put by my philosophy

You should simply be mega blue pill next to women and that's it.

All else is money, looks, status

this applies only to peoplewho are sub 8

chads can do almost anything

This is all the looks dictating indeed. Philosophy doesn't mean shit when you're sub 8 ..
 
27 years old friendless mentalcel here. My problem with this theory is that for me it never began mattering. Since i can think i always remembered i couldn't relate or connect to other people. I was baffled all the time about their stupid normie mainstream bullshit which didn't interest me, hell even if i tried to fit in i just couldn't do it. I was never invited to events or parties and thus have zero social skills and at this age i don't even know how to get them.

For me personality is just a meme. You are either born charismatic and with good social skills traits or you are a complete mentalcel like me or something in between. For those who are in between they may be able to improve but for real mentalcels like me this is just not possible.
 
How do you know that I'm above average or average (I never posted any pictures of my actual face. I'm also pretty scrawny and weak and this is what girls don't like.
 
grayjedi90 said:
27 years old friendless mentalcel here. My problem with this theory is that for me it never began mattering. Since i can think i always remembered i couldn't relate or connect to other people. I was baffled all the time about their stupid normie mainstream bullshit which didn't interest me, hell even if i tried to fit in i just couldn't do it. I was never invited to events or parties and thus have zero social skills and at this age i don't even know how to get them.

For me personality is just a meme. You are either born charismatic and with good social skills traits or you are a complete mentalcel like me or something in between. For those who are in between they may be able to improve but for real mentalcels like me this is just not possible.

personality matter if you are competing against ur looksmatch

meaning

you are 5/10 and fighting with another 5/10 for the same girl

but thanks to technology this rarely happens in the developed world

because Mr.7 comes and takes it all with his amazing personality

of course money can also make the difference
 
Because you can't change your personality.

"hurr go to therapy" fucking neanderthals contradicting themselves everyday I swear...
 
It's the social anxiety. I know I'm not subhuman looking (maybe by Lookism standards)

Lookism isn't real life though. PSL 4 is an IRL 6. Most people you see on the street are pretty average to ugly looking. 

Social anxiety is through the roof for me, and it makes for awkward encounters with women and a high failure rate.
 
Grain_of_sin said:
It's the social anxiety. I know I'm not subhuman looking (maybe by Lookism standards)

Lookism isn't real life though. PSL 4 is an IRL 6. Most people you see on the street are pretty average to ugly looking. 

Social anxiety is through the roof for me, and it makes for awkward encounters with women and a high failure rate.

start cold approaching to lower ur inhibition

and u don't have to start with girls

u can approach peopel who are paid to talk to you...etc.
 
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And I never actually asked a girl out (I don't want rejection and suifuel) I'm already really fragile
 
Social anxiety/social retardation but I'd say I'm more average than above average. Basically I never learned how to socialize.
 
Facade said:
And I never actually asked a girl out (I don't want rejection and suifuel) I'm already really fragile

Good. We facecels can't afford for you to have a working brain.
 
FACEandLMS said:
Good. We facecels can't afford for you to have a working brain.

Jfl you never saw my face
 
Facade said:
Jfl you never saw my face

You've been saying for weeks that you're 5+ and that your brain is the issue. Now you're backpedalling. I'm confused :/
 
I've been told I'm a mentalcel pretty regularly. I just don't buy it. I know I'm not the most hideous person on the planet but my face is not normie level by any means.
 
FACEandLMS said:
You've been saying for weeks that you're 5+ and that your brain is the issue. Now you're backpedalling. I'm confused :/

I'm actually shit at rating people and stuck between "oh it's not that bad" and "my face is horseshit it's over"


FACEandLMS said:
You've been saying for weeks that you're 5+ and that your brain is the issue. Now you're backpedalling. I'm confused :/

Terrible mood swings
 
I haven't got the chance to know if my looks are a problem.
 
I do agree with them, but by personality i dont mean what makes you good person (kind, nice, caring...) But rather masculine traits like dominance, aggression, leadership etc plus ofc general social skills. So if they say misogyny makes us incel they can fuck right off
 
kvn said:
I do agree with them, but by personality i dont mean what makes you good person (kind, nice, caring...) But rather masculine traits like dominance, aggression, leadership etc plus ofc general social skills. So if they say misogyny makes us incel they can fuck right off

Great observation.(We are the weak ones)Tbh every normie will get mogged by Chad as soon as he approaches a girl
 

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