SuicideFuel If we ascended by a miracle

[Cuckoja]

Lets say theres a hidden gem girl, one ready to look past all of you shortcomings, one capable of loving you and giving you a chance.

Do you guys think that you would be mentally ready not to fuck the things up? After entire life of bad experiences, negative reinforcement, being abandoned, pushed aside, ostracized, called worthless, treated as worst always, everything you got from others was always heavily conditioned, all the blackpill stuff burned into your brain.

Do you guys believe you could have an healthy relationship? Could you trust her? Could you accept someone loving you when you dont even love yourself? Would you drive her away with you insecurities? Would you strangle her with your emotional neediness? Would you be in constant fear of loosing her? Would you expect too much? Would you burden her?

Be honest please, not just what you would wish for. I often think about this. Tbh i think im beyond saving.

 

[Clavicus Vile]

I’d definitely fuck it up yes, I’d never be able to trust her so I’d end up treating her more like a pet rather than an equal.

 

[superpsycho]

i would definitely fuck it up

im low iq and missed out on everything in my formative years so i dont think ill ever be able to hold a stable relationship long term

 

[plastic chewer]

I would never enter into a relationship regardless of how perfect the girl is, I'm far too impaired to partake in one.

Even if I wasn't as impaired, I don't really long for one, I only care about the animalistic aspect of copulation.

 

[Cuckoja]

I’d definitely fuck it up yes, I’d never be able to trust her so I’d end up treating her more like a pet rather than an equal.

I would probably go insane of jelaousy

 

[Junkie]

I'd probably screw it long-term.

 

[Bloodlusted Maniac]

I would be extremely nervous and paranoid 24/7. I'd think she's constantly analyzing my facial features, my negatively tilted eyes, my noticeable eyebags, and other features that make me incredibly insecure. No, already after the first week, I would have some sort of paranoid meltdown and I'd fumble it all. I have trust issues too, so that doesn't help my case.

 

[Cuckoja]

I would be extremely nervous and paranoid 24/7. I'd think she's constantly analyzing my facial features, my negatively tilted eyes, my noticeable eyebags, and other features that make me incredibly insecure. No, already after the first week, I would have some sort of paranoid meltdown and I'd fumble it all. I have trust issues too, so that doesn't help my case.

Brutal man, i think the same.

 

[mariomariuss]

Lets say theres a hidden gem girl, one ready to look past all of you shortcomings, one capable of loving you and giving you a chance.

Do you guys think that you would be mentally ready not to fuck the things up? After entire life of bad experiences, negative reinforcement, being abandoned, pushed aside, ostracized, called worthless, treated as worst always, everything you got from others was always heavily conditioned, all the blackpill stuff burned into your brain.

Do you guys believe you could have an healthy relationship? Could you trust her? Could you accept someone loving you when you dont even love yourself? Would you drive her away with you insecurities? Would you strangle her with your emotional neediness? Would you be in constant fear of loosing her? Would you expect too much? Would you burden her?

Be honest please, not just what you would wish for. I often think about this. Tbh i think im beyond saving.

I couldn't trust foid cuz I know their real cheating nature

 

[Bloodlusted Maniac]

Brutal man, i think the same.

Because it's true. Whether or not she "loves" you enough to bare through the animalistic instincts she has, she WILL still not get rid of the subconscious desire of ALL women to find a partner that is better than you. This is quite literally, physically AND scientifically impossible. The ND+Sub5pill is ultra brutal.

 

[caineturbat2003]

With everything that's happened to me, I would be HIGHLY skeptical of her. I have trust issues, some fucked up parts of my childhood keep resurfacing in my head and IF EVEN she somehow gains my trust, I would never feel the spark or the chemistry of enjoyment I felt as a kid. I was even ridiculed for wanting love, that it's a sissy thing, obviously my brain somehow shut down the side that desired love. So now any act of connection feels meaningless to me. I am too far broken to try on reconnecting again. Fuck this world and fuck whatever Satan or Demiurge that is incharge of it.

 

[Cuckoja]

With everything that's happened to me, I would be HIGHLY skeptical of her. I have trust issues, some fucked up parts of my childhood keep resurfacing in my head and IF EVEN she somehow gains my trust, I would never feel the spark or the chemistry of enjoyment I felt as a kid. I was even ridiculed for wanting love, that it's a sissy thing, obviously my brain somehow shut down the side that desired love. So now any act of connection feels meaningless to me. I am too far broken to try on reconnecting again. Fuck this world and fuck whatever Satan or Demiurge that is incharge of it.

I blame my parents for everything, its like they tried their hardest to mentally fuck us up for life.

 

[caineturbat2003]

I blame my parents for everything, its like they tried their hardest to mentally fuck us up for life.

I don't blame them, I moreso blame society. I blame the normie nature for being rats and I blame foids for being shallow bitches in heat. My parents have been the only people I could really be myself, with the rest of people I am only wearing a mask.

 

[Cuckoja]

I don't blame them, I moreso blame society. I blame the normie nature for being rats and I blame foids for being shallow bitches in heat. My parents have been the only people I could really be myself, with the rest of people I am only wearing a mask.

You're lucky. For some reason my dad was always siding with others against us, among other abusive bad stuff and my mom was crazy overprotective manipulative person

 

[WastedPotential]

I'm a horrible interlocutor, I haven't socialized in years and haven't tried improving in that area for a long time. I can't even hold a basic conversation. Let alone flirt or make jokes. it;s so over

 

[WastedPotential]

And my daily routine just consists of rotting behind the PC.

 

[ExistentialPariah]

i would definitely fuck it up

im low iq and missed out on everything in my formative years so i dont think ill ever be able to hold a stable relationship long term

 

[Cuckoja]

I'm a horrible interlocutor, I haven't socialized in years and haven't tried improving in that area for a long time. I can't even hold a basic conversation. Let alone flirt or make jokes. it;s so over

Yeah, how even to act human after so many years of not living like one.

 

[caineturbat2003]

You're lucky. For some reason my dad was always siding with others against us, among other abusive bad stuff and my mom was crazy overprotective manipulative person

Honestly I would have been an even colder bastard if it wasn't for my peeps. Or maybe it is because I am a cripple and I am more of a pet to them, I honestly don't know. The only true feeling of connection I felt was with another guy that had a similar condition as I have, but he left and I feel even more lonely. Relationships are still a mystery to me and I even wonder if I am really in a relationship with someone or not.

 

[PersonalityChad]

I would definitely fuck everything up, i don't know how to deal with women and i would be a horrible bf

 

[Cuckoja]

I would definitely fuck everything up, i don't know how to deal with women and i would be a horrible bf

Same and i feel like the more i tried the more wrongs i would do.

 

[Smiggles]

I’d definitely fuck it up yes, I’d never be able to trust her so I’d end up treating her more like a pet rather than an equal.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

I'm broken beyond repair

 

[undertaker77]

I'm too old at 40.

 

[Cuckoja]

I'm broken beyond repair

Same bro

I'm too old at 40.

Im 38, same shit

 

[Livonica_Irreale]

It would be extremely task for her, since i have broken core with autistic traits.
As i observed - foids and normies overall hates when you say weird shit that interests you, or for being simply curious.
My potential hidden gem girl has to be either similarly fucked up, or sapiosexual (i don't fool myself, this is liking nerdy chads) - since i don't have any other positive traits except loyalty (worthless nowadays).
Also - i would propably be extremely clingy, due to love starvation since my early childhood. My hunger for hugs is so bad, that i'm chasing cats on the streets, and if i find any who's not running away, i can torture him with cuddling for hours.

So yup, i would stay with her propably, but the other question is - can she not withdraw while experiencing this bizarre human subspecimen?

 

[NormieCelll]

Don't care if I fuck it up in the short/long term, I only want to ascend once so I can finally check that box off and move on with my life and see what comes next tbh

 

[Ambatukam Alone]

Could you trust her? Could you accept someone loving you when you dont even love yourself? Would you drive her away with you insecurities? Would you strangle her with your emotional neediness? Would you be in constant fear of loosing her? Would you expect too much? Would you burden her?

Even if she was so much of a unicorn nawalt that we managed to get through this sort of thing (feeling like I can trust her, feel loved and safe for the first time in recollection, she handles the highly probable initial needy outbursts, etc); I do think there's a real risk that I'd just not actually be able to form a relationship/care about her emotionally, no matter how great she is. I've never been able to form real/emotional/lasting friendships or anything like that, I don't think. Believe my autism + self-diagnosed personality disorder/attachment disorder makes it virtually impossible to actually have a relationship (whether it be superficial, medium, or deep).

It's over on so many levels. Can't get a date in the first place (ND, completely fucked up, not good looking enough to compensate if that's possible, no social life, self-sabotage, negative, stand-offish, total loser, etc), may not be able to have sex with my fucked up dick/brain even if it somehow happens (porn/PSSD), can't even bring her back to my place since I'm NEETing in mom's basement, haven't been able to be functional job/education-wise because emotional wreck from inceldom/etc which leads to not being able to move out, barely even want to move out since I'd be completely alone whilst prone to paranoia/OCD/depression/suicidality + other stuff, and then on top of everything I may not even be able to form any kind of relationship anyway.

 

[ColderManTruce]

hidden gem girl, one ready to look past all of you shortcomings, one capable of loving you and giving you a chance.

she'd cheat right away if she saw my subhuman face and height.

Those kind of foids don't exist in real life. Even if I manage to "ascend" it would end with her cheating cause of the dickpill

 

[Cuckoja]

It would be extremely task for her, since i have broken core with autistic traits.
As i observed - foids and normies overall hates when you say weird shit that interests you, or for being simply curious.
My potential hidden gem girl has to be either similarly fucked up, or sapiosexual (i don't fool myself, this is liking nerdy chads) - since i don't have any other positive traits except loyalty (worthless nowadays).
Also - i would propably be extremely clingy, due to love starvation since my early childhood. My hunger for hugs is so bad, that i'm chasing cats on the streets, and if i find any who's not running away, i can torture him with cuddling for hours.

So yup, i would stay with her propably, but the other question is - can she not withdraw while experiencing this bizarre human subspecimen?

Good to see you back and same, i have nothing to offer except loyalty and my love. I would be also extremely attached, clingy, obsessed with her. Girls say that they wants this but their behavior shows differently.

 

[Cuckoja]

Don't care if I fuck it up in the short/long term, I only want to ascend once so I can finally check that box off and move on with my life and see what comes next tbh

I dont know man, i just want to love someone and to be loved back, i dont even care much for sex nowadays.

 

[Cuckoja]

Even if she was so much of a unicorn nawalt that we managed to get through this sort of thing (feeling like I can trust her, feel loved and safe for the first time in recollection, she handles the highly probable initial needy outbursts, etc); I do think there's a real risk that I'd just not actually be able to form a relationship/care about her emotionally, no matter how great she is. I've never been able to form real/emotional/lasting friendships or anything like that, I don't think. Believe my autism + self-diagnosed personality disorder/attachment disorder makes it virtually impossible to actually have a relationship (whether it be superficial, medium, or deep).

It's over on so many levels. Can't get a date in the first place (ND, completely fucked up, not good looking enough to compensate if that's possible, no social life, self-sabotage, negative, stand-offish, total loser, etc), may not be able to have sex with my fucked up dick/brain even if it somehow happens (porn/PSSD), can't even bring her back to my place since I'm NEETing in mom's basement, haven't been able to be functional job/education-wise because emotional wreck from inceldom/etc which leads to not being able to move out, barely even want to move out since I'd be completely alone whilst prone to paranoia/OCD/depression/suicidality + other stuff, and then on top of everything I may not even be able to form any kind of relationship anyway.

Very relatable, where does one even starts when we failed in every field. How to ask a girl out when youre broke and autistic as fuck and you cant even get a hello, not something more jfl, its so over

 

[Cuckoja]

she'd cheat right away if she saw my subhuman face and height.

Those kind of foids don't exist in real life. Even if I manage to "ascend" it would end with her cheating cause of the dickpill

It would take her a week to realize that she can do better, real. Then going back to be all alone would be even worse.

 

[ColderManTruce]

It would take her a week to realize that she can do better, real. Then going back to be all alone would be even worse.

I'd genuinely rope if this happens, that's why I completely avoid "ascending" .

It's pure humiliation and torture

 

[SteelCentaur]

Nah, I'm on the verge of becoming a wizard and I've already mentally checked out from life.

 

[Cuckoja]

I'd genuinely rope if this happens, that's why I completely avoid "ascending" .

It's pure humiliation and torture

Me too, i doubt that i have the mental fortitude to survive such a thing. Maybe its a good thing that we wont ascend.

 

[Cuckoja]

Nah, I'm on the verge of becoming a wizard and I've already mentally checked out from life.

I thought the same, yet at 38 i still hope for nothing

 

[ThePornographer]

I would self sabotage unless it's a woman who never had a relationship before, then it's okay because we will discover the same things together and it's fine.

But if it's a woman who already had relationship before, well im doomed because most normal couples things do i will have no clue about.

 

[ColderManTruce]

Me too, i doubt that i have the mental fortitude to survive such a thing. Maybe its a good thing that we wont ascend.

ovER.

I actually am amused by how oofy doofies can tolerate this shit tho, insane mental fortitude(for getting cucked pussy) prolly.

 

[Cuckoja]

I would self sabotage unless it's a woman who never had a relationship before, then it's okay because we will discover the same things together and it's fine.

But if it's a woman who already had relationship before, well im doomed because most normal couples things do i will have no clue about.

Yeah but how long until she realizes that she can do better?

 

[NormieCelll]

I dont know man, i just want to love someone and to be loved back, i dont even care much for sex nowadays.

Fair enough, I do think that what comes before and after the act itself is just as important

 

[Cuckoja]

ovER.

I actually am amused by how oofy doofies can tolerate this shit tho, insane mental fortitude(for getting cucked pussy) prolly.

Ive seen at some of my cousins, they will literally ignore being cheated on and enduring being treated as shit, just to not be alone.

I would rather suffer, or even rope than being a cuck. Id rather eat a shotgun shell.

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

There was a time when I thought this was actually happening to me, yet here I am, a khhv. I am so autistic that I probably wouldn't know what to do if a girl genuinely liked me. I can't connect with people in any way, I can't flirt, I can't do anything. If I could go on dates, I wouldn't know what to do there anyway. I'm a weirdo, if a girl liked me I would surely fuck it up unless she jumped on me and raped me, but this doesn't happen to sub8s.

Well, of course things would change if I actually got dates. I would eventually gain the experience and learn from my mistakes, and I would learn to flirt and bring women to bed. But with only an unicorn hidden gem girl giving me my first chance since I was born? No way I'll be able to take it unless she jumps me or confesses to me explicitly. But that would be way more than finding a hidden gem, because no girl acts like that for anyone below Chadlite level.

 

[ThePornographer]

Yeah but how long until she realizes that she can do better?

It really depent, being married and have a kid, making rules like she do not have the right to post on social media ( i mean picture of her ) might help a lot.

If you date and marry a woman who never had any relationship, you should do everything possible to make her not see the better option, chads IRL will probably not approach her and if she see chads IRL passing by, he will only be a " dream " like it used to be for women 70 years ago when they looked at a picture of elvis presley as teenager, for them Elvis was just a dream that didn't exist in real life...

Anyway, such scenario for an incels.is user isn't going to happen anyway for 98% of us ( i guess ) but it's still good to know and understand that women can be manipulated early in a relationship to be blind to her better option.

 

[Cuckoja]

There was a time when I thought this was actually happening to me, yet here I am, a khhv. I am so autistic that I probably wouldn't know what to do if a girl genuinely liked me. I can't connect with people in any way, I can't flirt, I can't do anything. If I could go on dates, I wouldn't know what to do there anyway. I'm a weirdo, if a girl liked me I would surely fuck it up unless she jumped on me and raped me, but this doesn't happen to sub8s.

Well, of course things would change if I actually got dates. I would eventually gain the experience and learn from my mistakes, and I would learn to flirt and bring women to bed. But with only an unicorn hidden gem girl giving me my first chance since I was born? No way I'll be able to take it unless she jumps me or confesses to me explicitly. But that would be way more than finding a hidden gem, because no girl acts like that for anyone below Chadlite level.

Very well said and same, after "hello" i dont even know what to say. I hate being like this. Its all the damn inexperience and autism, what others learn in childhood we wont ever know

 

[Cuckoja]

It really depent, being married and have a kid, making rules like she do not have the right to post on social media ( i mean picture of her ) might help a lot.

If you date and marry a woman who never had any relationship, you should do everything possible to make her not see the better option, chads IRL will probably not approach her and if she see chads IRL passing by, he will only be a " dream " like it used to be for women 70 years ago when they looked at a picture of elvis presley as teenager, for them Elvis was just a dream that didn't exist in real life...

Anyway, such scenario for an incels.is user isn't going to happen anyway for 98% of us ( i guess ) but it's still good to know and understand that women can be manipulated early in a relationship to be blind to her better option.

With social media is impossible to keep a foid, even for guys who mog us to death. Good analysis.

 

[ColderManTruce]

Ive seen at some of my cousins, they will literally ignore being cheated on and enduring being treated as shit, just to not be alone.

I would rather suffer, or even rope than being a cuck. Id rather eat a shotgun shell.

Brutal stuff. I'd do the same

 

[endoftheskies]

Lets say theres a hidden gem girl, one ready to look past all of you shortcomings, one capable of loving you and giving you a chance.

Do you guys think that you would be mentally ready not to fuck the things up? After entire life of bad experiences, negative reinforcement, being abandoned, pushed aside, ostracized, called worthless, treated as worst always, everything you got from others was always heavily conditioned, all the blackpill stuff burned into your brain.

Do you guys believe you could have an healthy relationship? Could you trust her? Could you accept someone loving you when you dont even love yourself? Would you drive her away with you insecurities? Would you strangle her with your emotional neediness? Would you be in constant fear of loosing her? Would you expect too much? Would you burden her?

Be honest please, not just what you would wish for. I often think about this. Tbh i think im beyond saving.

won't happen. and i would fuck it up somehow.