Serious if i had the company of a qt 4/10 girl who never will abandon me for another male, i'd pretty happy

[Deleted member 30198]

if i had the company of this type of girl and would never get abandoned because of another male, it'd be pretty good, if i could have cuddles, damn that would be almost perfect

the only thing that would be left would be sex, but because she wouldnt have sex with anyone then i wouldnt have a problem with she not having sex with me

what about you guys?

 

[Deleted member 31361]

Who wouldn't want that?
I just want a hug brocel, just a hug

 

[AllanKing]

post a picture to illustrate what is a 4/10 in your opinion

 

[Meus]

would never get abandoned because of another male

Lol even Chads get abandoned.

Gigachad only sweaty.

 

[Remaincel]

I just want a virgin and submissive foid

 

[Deleted member 6214]

I just want a virgin and submissive foid

That is too much to ask for in this shit world.

 

[Lebensmüder]

I just want any kind of woman. But NOTHING.

 

[BlkPillPres]

if i had the company of this type of girl and would never get abandoned because of another male, it'd be pretty good, if i could have cuddles, damn that would be almost perfect

the only thing that would be left would be sex, but because she wouldnt have sex with anyone then i wouldnt have a problem with she not having sex with me

what about you guys?

>qt
>4/10

Pick One

 

[Iamnothere000]

if i had the company of this type of girl and would never get abandoned because of another male, it'd be pretty good, if i could have cuddles, damn that would be almost perfect

the only thing that would be left would be sex, but because she wouldnt have sex with anyone then i wouldnt have a problem with she not having sex with me

what about you guys?

I would accept a 4/10 but sex should still be on the table.

>qt
>4/10

Pick One

wdyt?

 

[BlkPillPres]

I would accept a 4/10 but sex should still be on the table.

wdyt?

She's average 5/10, she doesn't even look obese, she just has a bit of fat and it takes away a bit from her facial looks, but if she went on a diet she could easily be a 6

If you consider this a 4, then the scale from a 4 to a 3 must be drastic, because I don't know how you'd classify a 1 then, 1 usually means something grotesque like disfigurement

 

[Sennacherib]

if i had the company of this type of girl and would never get abandoned because of another male

Never gonna happen,foids are always looking to upgrade to a superior man

I just want a virgin foid

>virgin foid
>2021 slut era

 

[Iamnothere000]

She's average 5/10, she doesn't even look obese, she just has a bit of fat and it takes away a bit from her facial looks, but if she went on a diet she could easily be a 6

She could use a diet but I have seen slim girls with that exact face so I don’t know if she could ascend the looks level…

If you consider this a 4, then the scale from a 4 to a 3 must be drastic, because I don't know how you'd classify a 1 then, 1 usually means something grotesque like disfigurement

Number 6 of level 4 is also acceptable.

 

[BlkPillPres]

She could use a diet but I have seen slim girls with that exact face so I don’t know if she could ascend the looks level…

With the looks halo of her eye colour I'd say she'd ascend

Number 6 of level 4 is also acceptable.

Yeah I'd fuck too but I wouldn't even classify her as cute, she's just good enough to fuck

 

[Neggr]

Lol even Chads get abandoned.

Gigachad only sweaty.

 

[Iamnothere000]

Yeah I'd fuck too but I wouldn't even classify her as cute, she's just good enough to fuck

I’m not in the position to afford such a distinction.

If she is good enough to fuck, than she is good enough to have a relationship with.

Pumping and dumping is Chad behavior and a huge part of the problem.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Pumping and dumping is Chad behavior and a huge part of the problem.

Pumping and dumping is the best behavior for women these days (average guys are doing it too)

If she was a virgin I'd say otherwise, but if she's not there's no point in starting a relationship, you are just coping at that point

Most women today aren't going to be virgins by the time she's lowered her standards enough to let a guy like us date her, so I'm pumping and dumping, I won't be anybody's back up plan

 

[Iamnothere000]

Pumping and dumping is the best behavior for women these days (average guys are doing it too)

If she was a virgin I'd say otherwise, but if she's not there's no point in starting a relationship, you are just coping at that point

Most women today aren't going to be virgins by the time she's lowered her standards enough to let a guy like us date her, so I'm pumping and dumping, I won't be anybody's back up plan

Virginity would be ideal but that is very far from realistic.

And you DO know that by pumping and dumping you give women the impression that they are too good for males of their own looks level?

And, if I may ask: Wdym with “I'm pumping and dumping” ?

 

[BlkPillPres]

Virginity would be ideal but that is very far from realistic.

Far from realisitc for the west, nothing stopping any of us from moving to an Islamic state in a few years if we REALLY wanted a virgin wife

And you DO know that by pumping and dumping you give women the impression that they are too good for males of their own looks level?

I'm confused with your logic here, wouldn't staying in a relationship with a woman below your looks league give her an even stronger impression (than pumping and dumping) that she is too good for males of her own league?

Pump and dump is telling a woman "you're good for a fuck"

Relationship is telling a woman "you can aim for this league from now on for relationships

And, if I may ask: Wdym with “I'm pumping and dumping” ?

I mean if I somehow got a girl like the one you pointed out to fuck me I'm fucking for as long as I can but I'm not getting into a committed relationship, there is no point in doing so anymore, it literally only makes sense to pump and dump women these days, they aren't worth relationships, many can't even cook, they don't want to fulfill their traditional roles but we still have to fulfill ours

 

[Transcended Trucel]

>qt
>4/10

Pick One

 

[Iamnothere000]

Far from realisitc for the west, nothing stopping any of us from moving to an Islamic state in a few years if we REALLY wanted a virgin wife

…unless polygamy is involved

I'm confused with your logic here, wouldn't staying in a relationship with a woman below your looks league give her an even stronger impression (than pumping and dumping) that she is too good for males of her own league?

I assumed that the man and women were on the same league, sry if I made this not clear.
If the women is below you in looks, you should not even talk to her.

I mean if I somehow got a girl like the one you pointed out to fuck me I'm fucking for as long as I can but I'm not getting into a committed relationship, there is no point in doing so anymore, it literally only makes sense to pump and dump women these days, they aren't worth relationships, many can't even cook, they don't want to fulfill their traditional roles but we still have to fulfill ours

Sry, but I still think pumping and dumping is wrong because it distorts the expectations on what a woman can achieve in the future.

 

[BlkPillPres]

it distorts the expectations on what a woman can achieve in the future.

How?

 

[Tenshi]

This 4/10 is going dyke because her looksmatch is way too ugly for her

 

[Iamnothere000]

How?

Let’s say a 6-guy pumps and dumps a 4-girl. She will now think that she “deserves” nothing lesser than a 6-guy and gives no chance to her looksmatch (as she should). If she eventually settles, she will still lust for 6-guys and above but not for her looksmatched husband.

The same mechanism is true for relationships, were an extreme example would be the “alpha-widow”.

If you apply this behaviour further down the looks scale, you will have guys of which every girl thinks she is too good for -> Incels are created.

Virgin or not, a man should not “pump and dump”, he should get his looksmatch (and nothing less) and marry her ASAP, taking them both off the market.

 

[Alone75]

I'd like that too, I could have had that maybe [she seemed to like me anyway, it was the last year of school] well in the early 1990s but messed it up due to low-confidence/shyness and so I still beat myself up over a missed opportunity. What if?

You can't afford to let any opportunities go, even if you're a volcel and think you can do better, I know we don't get any chances really but this is more advice to youngcels, you've got to really try if you get even a sniff of potential interest or you could end up like me!

 

[BlkPillPres]

Let’s say a 6-guy pumps and dumps a 4-girl. She will now think that she “deserves” nothing lesser than a 6-guy and gives no chance to her looksmatch (as she should). If she eventually settles, she will still lust for 6-guys and above but not for her looksmatched husband.

All you've explained to me is how delusional women are, and she will think she "deserves" a 6 regardless of whether one fucks her, lastly fucking is not the same thing as being in a relationship (this is where the delusional part comes in). Any woman with common sense knows the average guy will fuck any woman with a pulse, so a man having sex with you is not the same as a man choosing to be in a relationship with you

So her fucking 6's only means she can get 6's to fuck her, if she interprets that as "I can maybe get a relationship with a 6" well that's just her delusions, and we can't do anything about that, women are delusional period, and I'll say it again, every woman thinks they can get a man who is above them, women only date up last time I checked

Lastly your point only matters if its a man of a higher tier pumping and dump, if I have money and I'm using it to trick women of my tier or above to fuck me, then it makes perfect sense for me to pump and dump

If you apply this behaviour further down the looks scale, you will have guys of which every girl thinks she is too good for -> Incels are created.

Women always wanted what they want now, they just have the freedom to do it today, pump and dump doesn't create incels, women having the right to work, own property and vote is what created incels

Virgin or not, a man should not “pump and dump”, he should get his looksmatch (and nothing less) and marry her ASAP, taking them both off the market.

Only an idiot would get married in this day and age, you actually sound delusional right now

You are looking at this from the perspective of a man who doesn't see himself having "anything" in life (wealth, resources, etc) so you want people being taken off the market to increase your chances. I see myself as a future wealthy man who is going to be exploiting women's greed in the future to pump and dump for a while, and then I'll go on to being a full on escortcel when I've had my fun

I'm going to adapt to the game then opt out of it, what you want is to end the game and change its rules, and that's not going to happen

 

[Iamnothere000]

All you've explained to me is how delusional women are, and she will think she "deserves" a 6 regardless of whether one fucks her, lastly fucking is not the same thing as being in a relationship (this is where the delusional part comes in). Any woman with common sense knows the average guy will fuck any woman with a pulse, so a man having sex with you is not the same as a man choosing to be in a relationship with you

So her fucking 6's only means she can get 6's to fuck her, if she interprets that as "I can maybe get a relationship with a 6" well that's just her delusions,

Yes, women are delusional. Water is wet btw.

and we can't do anything about that, women are delusional period, and I'll say it again, every woman thinks they can get a man who is above them, women only date up last time I checked

Well we could just ignore women who are below us instead of simping, orbiting and (maybe later) betabuxing (I’m talking about men in general, not just Incels). That would give women a reality check and force them to seek their validation from their looksmatch.

Lastly your point only matters if its a man of a higher tier pumping and dump,

true

if I have money and I'm using it to trick women of my tier or above to fuck me, then it makes perfect sense for me to pump and dump

Out of curiosity, how would you do that?

Women always wanted what they want now, they just have the freedom to do it today, pump and dump doesn't create incels, women having the right to work, own property and vote is what created incels

Do you at least agree that, if men would marry their looksmatch early instead of pumping and dumping, there would be fewer Incels because Chads would be “off the market” sooner and women would be forced to have more realistic standards?

...the things you mentioned contribute to the problem, of course

Only an idiot would get married in this day and age, you actually sound delusional right now

You are looking at this from the perspective of a man who doesn't see himself having "anything" in life (wealth, resources, etc) so you want people being taken off the market to increase your chances. I see myself as a future wealthy man who is going to be exploiting women's greed in the future to pump and dump for a while, and then I'll go on to being a full on escortcel when I've had my fun

I'm going to adapt to the game then opt out of it, what you want is to end the game and change its rules, and that's not going to happen

Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but if I had the option, I would totally marry my looksmatch and try to be happy for as long as possible. Tho I know that this is not possible because of female nature…

Good look with your plan.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Out of curiosity, how would you do that?

"Women "thirst trap" with their bodies, men "thirst trap" with their lifestyle"

There are a lot of women who are willing to "fuck down" if they think they can finesse you into "wifing" them or "falling in love"

Basically you are just going to have to play the role of the gullible rich ugly guy

You are going to have to convey through your appearance (and even social media, like Instagram) that you are a man of means

Do I have some kind of exact plan laid out, no, but I know its possible

My time as a cashier has shown me unattractive men that have a lot of money are never without a woman

I don't think it would be hard to pump and dump if you are in the right environments and you have a "thirst trap" plan laid out to target women like this lol

Of course you better record your conversations before and leading up to her coming into the bedroom, expressing consent in the interaction (some angry bitch might be mad later that you finessed the pussy from her and didn't call her back the next day)

Do you at least agree that, if men would marry their looksmatch early instead of pumping and dumping, there would be fewer Incels because Chads would be “off the market” sooner and women would be forced to have more realistic standards?

Yeah, but what does me agreeing with this have do with reality

I never said I disagreed with this, my point is just that in these times there's no benefit to me as a man adhering to this rule when I can just go fuck like crazy after years of sexual repression

I'm not going to do all this work to make all this money, just to settle down quickly with one woman, i'd be robbing myself at that point, I'd be doing myself a disservice

I would totally marry my looksmatch and try to be happy for as long as possible. Tho I know that this is not possible because of female nature…

You are underestimating your own male nature too, men weren't meant to be monogamous either, and men are usually only as faithful as their options

I'm sure there were a lot of rich men who thought to themselves "I would never cheat, why would I if I "love" the woman I'm with"

You think like that because you aren't mentally placing yourself in situation in which you have options, when you have the option to fuck multiple women its then that you will and your libido will be tested lol

I'm honest with myself, I self reflect all the time, I know full well that I could never be with only one woman after all these years of sex starvation. There's just too much fucking that I want to do, to do that to myself, I've missed out on so much so I won't deny myself the satisfaction

JFL if you think after years of no sex, you'll be alright with fucking the same woman for decades till your death, there's a reason why older couples are always talking about "spicing up their sex life", sex with the same person for years and years becomes unarousing, because you get "used to it"

 

[Iamnothere000]

You are going to have to convey through your appearance (and even social media, like Instagram) that you are a man of means

Do you think you can get what Chad gets (enthusiastic, passionate sex) because you project wealth?

Unless the women is a very good actor, you will notice (especially because you are blackpilled) that she just endures your (in her view) subhuman presence because she thinks she can turn you into her betabux.

And yes, you should record absolutely every interaction you have with her.

You think like that because you aren't mentally placing yourself in situation in which you have options, when you have the option to fuck multiple women its then that you will and your libido will be tested lol

Sure, if I were born as Chad and had a lot of options, I would fuck another foid every five hours. But here is the (IMO) main difference between men and women: Men have tamed their “hypergamie”. We introduced marriage so we could free time and effort to create civilisation... instead of fighting over who can fuck the most women. Unlike women, we (in general) are culturally evolved.

I think that is a good deal and I would gladly adhere to that by marrying only one looksmatched girl and try to be happy with it.

So I think your intended behaviour (as understandable as it is) is fundamentally “anti civilisation”.

But I wish you good look anyway.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Do you think you can get what Chad gets (enthusiastic, passionate sex) because you project wealth?

Women can be enthusiastic for many reasons, if a woman thinks you can be "hooked" and she's looking for a betabuxx you can just let her think she's playing you

Unless the women is a very good actor, you will notice (especially because you are blackpilled)

Sorry, that's not how that works, being black pilled doesn't magically manifest the sexual experience required to know if a woman is faking, if anything an incel wouldn't be able to tell because he has no experience and nothing to compare her "performance" against

So I think your intended behaviour (as understandable as it is) is fundamentally “anti civilisation”

Why would any incel be pro civilization at this point?

 

[Iamnothere000]

Women can be enthusiastic for many reasons, if a woman thinks you can be "hooked" and she's looking for a betabuxx you can just let her think she's playing you

I will never be able to make a real comparison, but I really think there is a difference between a women desiring you for being you (if you are a Chad) and you for being rich. But good luck to you bro.

Sorry, that's not how that works, being black pilled doesn't magically manifest the sexual experience required to know if a woman is faking, if anything an incel wouldn't be able to tell because he has no experience and nothing to compare her "performance" against

No but I believe, as an Incel, you are pretty good at spotting the difference between people really liking you and people/women just faking it because they want something from you. I know this is the case for me and I believe women will behave similarly if they think you are rich.

But sure, I have no way to confirm this.

Why would any incel be pro civilization at this point?

Good point… it’s a good cope I guess.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I will never be able to make a real comparison, but I really think there is a difference between a women desiring you for being you (if you are a Chad) and you for being rich. But good luck to you bro.

Yeah there's a difference mentally but there isn't necessarily a difference physically (as in sex)

If you think gold diggers don't fuck a betas brains out in order to "get him hooked" because "he's not muh Chad", you are taking this meme stuff too seriously

A woman trying to get a betabux to wife her isn't going to give him starfish sex, that should be obvious to anyone

One thing I think really needs to stop in the incel community is taking the "memes" which are true for the most part to ridiculous extremes, and speaking of them in a way as though they defy reality or common sense

If you are seriously arguing that - "No woman on the planet will have "passionate" sex with a man unless she is explicitly physically attracted to him" then you are arguing a ridiculous absolute, life doesn't work like that, a woman will "go all out" if its for another goal too (getting money)

I think many of you speak of sex this way, because you see sex as some kind of "special/sacred act" that isn't "mechanical in nature", so "real passion" is required to get a good performance, but that couldn't be furthest from the truth, its just like performing any other act that one can become skilled in, and women will employ these skills whenever it suits them, even when there isn't physical attraction

Do you really think a whore won't "deepthroat" you because "you're not Chad"?, you get what you pay for. Go to a 3rd world country with an active sex market, and I'm sure you will be surprised how well you will be treated, I doubt you will be as obsessed with this "Chad life" meme anymore. There is always an alternative path to get what you want in life.

If what you want is "genuine attraction" (can't be bought) rather than the quality of sex that comes from "genuine attraction" (can be bought), then I don't know what yo tell you, its probably never going to happen

No but I believe, as an Incel, you are pretty good at spotting the difference between people really liking you and people/women just faking it because they want something from you. I know this is the case for me and I believe women will behave similarly if they think you are rich.

I'm talking about her performance "in the bedroom" not how she interacts with you or looks at you

You wouldn't be able to tell if she is giving you her "best performance" or not, all you know is what sexual demands you have and if she meets them, its up to you to test how far she will go

 

[Iamnothere000]

Yeah there's a difference mentally but there isn't necessarily a difference physically (as in sex)

If you think gold diggers don't fuck a betas brains out in order to "get him hooked" because "he's not muh Chad", you are taking this meme stuff too seriously

A woman trying to get a betabux to wife her isn't going to give him starfish sex, that should be obvious to anyone

One thing I think really needs to stop in the incel community is taking the "memes" which are true for the most part to ridiculous extremes, and speaking of them in a way as though they defy reality or common sense

If you are seriously arguing that - "No woman on the planet will have "passionate" sex with a man unless she is explicitly physically attracted to him" then you are arguing a ridiculous absolute, life doesn't work like that, a woman will "go all out" if its for another goal too (getting money)

I think many of you speak of sex this way, because you see sex as some kind of "special/sacred act" that isn't "mechanical in nature", so "real passion" is required to get a good performance, but that couldn't be furthest from the truth, its just like performing any other act that one can become skilled in, and women will employ these skills whenever it suits them, even when there isn't physical attraction

Do you really think a whore won't "deepthroat" you because "you're not Chad"?, you get what you pay for. Go to a 3rd world country with an active sex market, and I'm sure you will be surprised how well you will be treated, I doubt you will be as obsessed with this "Chad life" meme anymore. There is always an alternative path to get what you want in life.

If what you want is "genuine attraction" (can't be bought) rather than the quality of sex that comes from "genuine attraction" (can be bought), then I don't know what yo tell you, its probably never going to happen


I'm talking about her performance "in the bedroom" not how she interacts with you or looks at you

You wouldn't be able to tell if she is giving you her "best performance" or not, all you know is what sexual demands you have and if she meets them, its up to you to test how far she will go

Ok, bro, we are at a point where we are both guessing and now it is just a difference of opinions.

If you manage to fool foids into giving you good sex than please write a book about it. I would totally read it and follow your advice... and the feminazis would be triggered as hell.

 

[BlkPillPres]

If you manage to fool foids into giving you good sex than please write a book about it

It would probably be more easier to pay for that lol, but I'll take it however I'm getting it

Also I think you misinterpreted what I was saying, when I was talking about getting "good sex" I was talking about paying for it, not about getting it from gold diggers, that would be more of a luck of draw thing, but you can definitely pay a woman to fuck your brains out

 

[BlkPillPres]

"your standards are too high, dirty inkwell!"

JFL I only just realized your avatar is bianca devins

 

[BlkPillPres]

Lmao over for not paying attentioncels

Nah I forgot about the whole bianca devins things, even her name

Its just a coincidence that recently someone posted the real gore image on this forum (like 1 to 2 days ago), then I reverse image searched it because I remembered your avatar and saw the name bianca devins (only just stumbled upon your profile again to tell you this, I didn't know your username, just the image)

 

[Deleted member 36123]

She's average 5/10, she doesn't even look obese, she just has a bit of fat and it takes away a bit from her facial looks, but if she went on a diet she could easily be a 6

If you consider this a 4, then the scale from a 4 to a 3 must be drastic, because I don't know how you'd classify a 1 then, 1 usually means something grotesque like disfigurement

Now 1/10 are looking for Gigachad