If being an incel is so bad why is it gaining so much traction?

[notahindsight]

Asking to all the lurkers and foids out there. You have polarized and ostracized men being frustrated about the experiences to the point everyone is starting to be pissed off at life. This angry and violent rhetoric of us did not come out of nowhere. But all you want to interpret is that we are all violent and evil and hecking notsees. Anyone who looks at IT or other "calling out incels" communities think we are the epitome of all things evil, literally worse than Hitler, Stalin etc.

But when you look at the numbers, this forum is quite active with new users joining every day. The number of the so-called evil nazi virgins is snowballing. Surely, if you guys are the moral. righteous good guys everyone would join you instead of joining us. As if calling the opposite side as the bad guys doesn't magically fix things.

 

[ordinaryotaku]

It's funny how I've argued this exact point for almost a decade and not a single one of these spineless soy cucks who I argue with ever gives me a viable and logical response.

Back in 2016, I used to say on r/incels that incels were just going to grow more and more in number as time passes because of how BS women's standards are, and in return, I would get barraged by a bunch of BS.

Fast forward to 2024, blackpill ideology and looksmaxxing are mainstream because the mid-tail end of Zoomers is starting to have good enough pattern recognition to see all the women in their generation going for the same Chads. If you go on TikTok, there are blackpill accounts with tens of thousands of followers. You got folks like Wheat Waffles with hundreds of thousands.

They always argue the fact that incels are only prevalent because of being brainwashed by other incels on the Internet, but we have had Web 2.0 since 2002? And BBSes since the late 80s? And we didn't have any of this blackpill and incel stuff actually being extremely prevalent through any online medium until the 2010s, when dating apps and dating sites were starting to take off.

 

[chubby'n'bald scum]

Do people IRL knows we are blackpilled? No.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

It's not. I believe the main reason people come here is it's one of the last places without censorship.

Lookism rhetoric has gained acceptance, along with some blackpill ideals more focused on doomers (failed normies) feeling unmotivated.

But, nobody sides with us at all, even if people may deep down know we're right about things.

 

[notahindsight]

It's not. I believe the main reason people come here is it's one of the last places without censorship.

Lookism rhetoric has gained acceptance, along with some blackpill ideals more focused on doomers (failed normies) feeling unmotivated.

But, nobody sides with us at all, even if people may deep down know we're right about things.

It's not just about acceptance. The problems we are addressing will never be taken seriously because people want simple solutions to complex problems. This community has made a lot of research and came up with a lot of theories, and it's not just hateful rhetoric that makes up our cause (even though people want to believe that we are just hateful people who should just shower three times a day).

Even if it's slow, people and especially Zoomers have started to be familiar with the concepts of inceldom because the problem is now way too big to be ignored, and the people who cannot raise their voice are coming here and we are growing every day.

 

[Grodd]

This forum is just truly the last safe place for incels everywhere else we are hated on and pushed out

 

[romanstock]

It will culminate in a political movement of traditional white nationalism.

 

[YourTypicalLoner]

and we are growing every day.

Good, let there be many saints in the making!!! FUCK SOCIETY!!!!!!!!

 

[SocialOutkast95]

You're making it seem like inceldom is voluntary...?

Maybe it's the fact that more men are facing the dilemma of being isolated, ostracized, alienated, etc. by the foid race? And now with social media / interwebs, men can now express their plight. This isn't new, it's just become more obvious and gen-z seems to be the one who can ultimately push out the narrative since they're more prone to the devices / apps than past generations. Honestly, good riddance imo.. just let the hatred flow through this and next generation, I can't wait to see foids get what they deserve.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

You're making it seem like inceldom is voluntary...?

Maybe it's the fact that more men are facing the dilemma of being isolated, ostracized, alienated, etc. by the foid race? And now with social media / interwebs, men can now express their plight. This isn't new, it's just become more obvious and gen-z seems to be the one who can ultimately push out the narrative since they're more prone to the devices / apps than past generations. Honestly, good riddance imo.. just let the hatred flow through this and next generation, I can't wait to see foids get what they deserve.

It's quite something to witness the growing hatred between the genders in the newer generations, but I seriously doubt anything significant will happen anytime soon. I'll probably rope before then.

 

[ilieknothing]

This isn’t something that can be snuffed out because it isn’t an ideology. As long as foids continue to be as they are there will always be a growth of incels

 

[SocialOutkast95]

It's quite something to witness the growing hatred between the genders in the newer generations, but I seriously doubt anything significant will happen anytime soon. I'll probably rope before then.

Lol, you and I are on the same path unfortunately, bro. I'm planning to rope sooner than later. Some people here think they can just "sit back" and watch the world burn, but in reality, you'll be part of that "burning". From what I've seen with the rioting / looting between 2015-2020, that's all I need to witness in order to realize I no longer want to be around.

 

[notahindsight]

You're making it seem like inceldom is voluntary...?

No. I am just saying that men are starting to realise what their symptoms of being unable to form relationships equal to. People are just realising that they were always incels to begin with, and they start to identify themselves as such.
Our new digital age and insane competition of dating standards are setting a bar so high for dating that it is impossible for a big percentage of men to compete. As such, especially gen-Z is forced to be incels. If being an incel was a voluntary thing no one would choose to be one.

 

[SocialOutkast95]

No. I am just saying that men are starting to realise what their symptoms of being unable to form relationships equal to. People are just realising that they were always incels to begin with, and they start to identify themselves as such.
Our new digital age and insane competition of dating standards are setting a bar so high for dating that it is impossible for a big percentage of men to compete. As such, especially gen-Z is forced to be incels. If being an incel was a voluntary thing no one would choose to be one.

Ah, gotcha. My bad, I must've read it when I was still highly-drunk.

 

[Aegon Targaryen]

It's quite something to witness the growing hatred between the genders in the newer generations, but I seriously doubt anything significant will happen anytime soon. I'll probably rope before then.

The average dude is way too simpy to ever go against women on a scale like that. Remember, the average married dude gets cucked, raises other man's kids and has no issues with his marriage becoming an open relationship.

It's just us who are going against them and we are an absolute minority.

 

[Dregster]

It's not. I believe the main reason people come here is it's one of the last places without censorship.

Lookism rhetoric has gained acceptance, along with some blackpill ideals more focused on doomers (failed normies) feeling unmotivated.

But, nobody sides with us at all, even if people may deep down know we're right about things.

Nah cope

There's definitely traction being gained, they're just really small for it to do anything in our lifetime but bet by another 100 years, all these issues will be resolved.

 

[Dregster]

It's not just about acceptance. The problems we are addressing will never be taken seriously because people want simple solutions to complex problems. This community has made a lot of research and came up with a lot of theories, and it's not just hateful rhetoric that makes up our cause (even though people want to believe that we are just hateful people who should just shower three times a day).

Even if it's slow, people and especially Zoomers have started to be familiar with the concepts of inceldom because the problem is now way too big to be ignored, and the people who cannot raise their voice are coming here and we are growing every day.

Yup

We are unfortunate to be alive at the beginning of this realization, but all the looksmaxxing and tiktok blackpills etc etc is what is getting the ball moving and men in general are starting to wake to the bullshit games that foids have been playing for the last 60 years.

Every new generation will be less forgiving to foid nature than the last, and this is what will eventually lead to change in the longrun.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

The average dude is way too simpy to ever go against women on a scale like that. Remember, the average married dude gets cucked, raises other man's kids and has no issues with his marriage becoming an open relationship.

It's just us who are going against them and we are an absolute minority.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Nah cope

There's definitely traction being gained, they're just really small for it to do anything in our lifetime but bet by another 100 years, all these issues will be resolved.

I can't see most men reaching our levels of understanding feminism and hypergamy. I've seen far too many examples of men who receive the slightest attention from women completely change their mindsets thinking they have a chance. The situation for most men is they get a few women interested in them and they go from there. They're more likely to become MSTOW once they face reality.

 

[notahindsight]

I can't see most men reaching our levels of understanding feminism and hypergamy. I've seen far too many examples of men who receive the slightest attention from women completely change their mindsets thinking they have a chance. The situation for most men is they get a few women interested in them and they go from there. They're more likely to become MSTOW once they face reality.

I have a bluepilled friend that is telling me about how women always pick the greatest men and how we should try our best to appear the best way we can appear, have high earning jobs and he is grinding this path actively. He is on the right track, but not willing to accept the hard truth. Chads don't need this mental gymnastics, they simply have the ability and get what they want. It's not just having the understanding, it's also about accepting the truth and giving up and that is a very unpleasant experience so I can understand why people are in denial. It's nice to feel like you have control when you actually don't.

 

[Shitskin=Shitlife]

You don't choose to be an incel. This is the only place to safely talk about it, so of course it will grow as virgins become more common.

 

[Dregster]

I can't see most men reaching our levels of understanding feminism and hypergamy. I've seen far too many examples of men who receive the slightest attention from women completely change their mindsets thinking they have a chance. The situation for most men is they get a few women interested in them and they go from there. They're more likely to become MSTOW once they face reality.

Nah there's just too much blackpill information being circulated on tiktok, YT, social media etc etc for the younger generation to simply ignore and not apply it irl. Given your age, I'd like to assume that about half your examples are outdated at this point and would most likely not occur in this current dating market and what is to come, where men are being made aware of foid's most despicable behaviors being something that would need to be dealt with at some point.

Everyone wants to get laid, that's a given but the most important point here is being made aware of what are you willing to risk to get it while investing the least possible amount of resource and time. These modern day men who are in the game arent even risking a dinner's worth if they think they wont get laid, which is honestly a first great step. Dudes who dont get anything already rot at home with no job, neetmaxxing and playing video games all day.


This is literally only the beginning. The Chinese/asians are already way ahead of us in dealing with these problems with not marrying anything older than 25, having an obsession with plastic surgeries, and trying to create sexbots, Ai partners etc etc

Eventually the west will catch up to this as well.

 

[Dregster]

I have a bluepilled friend that is telling me about how women always pick the greatest men and how we should try our best to appear the best way we can appear, have high earning jobs and he is grinding this path actively. He is on the right track, but not willing to accept the hard truth. Chads don't need this mental gymnastics, they simply have the ability and get what they want. It's not just having the understanding, it's also about accepting the truth and giving up and that is a very unpleasant experience so I can understand why people are in denial. It's nice to feel like you have control when you actually don't.

Men arent wired to give up. Your bluepilled friend isnt wrong to believe in putting effort, because in reality, we should all put effort in life to not end up in a place like this.

He will only understand the truth when he is made to suffer for not understanding the reality of his situation.

 

[notahindsight]

Men arent wired to give up. Your bluepilled friend isnt wrong to believe in putting effort, because in reality, we should all put effort in life to not end up in a place like this.

Good call.
I guess there are only a few things we can still look forward to, because all this pessimism is making my mental state go down to the shitter. I already know what it means to be alone and I never really thought of the scenario where I would get laid, because it always seemed unlikely. I have just accepted that it will never happen, but the Earth will still keep spinning so I should still look forward to living I guess.

 

[notahindsight]

This is literally only the beginning. The Chinese/asians are already way ahead of us in dealing with these problems with not marrying anything older than 25, having an obsession with plastic surgeries, and trying to create sexbots, Ai partners etc etc

Eventually the west will catch up to this as well.

Another thing I don't understand is how people were so quick to give up relationships for the purpose of making children and keeping the bloodline going. As you've mentioned, Asia started the fire and their birthrates are catastrophic now. The West is also following suit. Another side effect of the female hypergamy is that it gave the woman the authority to choose her partner for her advantage has totally killed the core purpose of women making and raising babies. This is literally starting to become an existential threat.

 

[Dregster]

Another thing I don't understand is how people were so quick to give up relationships for the purpose of making children and keeping the bloodline going. As you've mentioned, Asia started the fire and their birthrates are catastrophic now. The West is also following suit. Another side effect of the female hypergamy is that it gave the woman the authority to choose her partner for her advantage has totally killed the core purpose of women making and raising babies. This is literally starting to become an existential threat.

Yes the declining birthrate is a concerning problem, and moreso for the normgroids that want soyciety to continue.

I believe these issues will be resolved, and there are multiple ways to get it done, they just wont be done in our lifetime.

I doubt humanity will allow itself to go extinct

 

[Todd Thundercock]

I doubt humanity will allow itself to go extinct

We'll see over the next 15 years as the demographic cliff gradually gets worse, and by 2040 it's disaster mode.

It's hard for me to see the current purposeful destruction of society change.

 

[notahindsight]

We'll see over the next 15 years as the demographic cliff gradually gets worse, and by 2040 it's disaster mode.

It's hard for me to see the current purposeful destruction of society change.

I also think that we won't go extinct but it is still going to be very bad. The world in the last 20 years has been formed into a very fast-paced world and our monkey brains have not been evolved to catch up to something like this. The way things are already going in the world with all the wars and the overall distress of the population, the fire will spread very fast.

 

[Shigeru Miyamoto]

Because inceldom is involuntary, and because not everyone is so deep in delusion as people on IT are.

 

[Dregster]

We'll see over the next 15 years as the demographic cliff gradually gets worse, and by 2040 it's disaster mode.

It's hard for me to see the current purposeful destruction of society change.

15 years is not enough time for the improvement I predict, in my opinion. Things will get worse before actual improvement begins to happen.

I can definitely see things getting worse in the next 15 yrs. I expect to be dead by the time all this shit gets resolved properly.

 

[Chang.Beijing]

Asking to all the lurkers and foids out there. You have polarized and ostracized men being frustrated about the experiences to the point everyone is starting to be pissed off at life. This angry and violent rhetoric of us did not come out of nowhere. But all you want to interpret is that we are all violent and evil and hecking notsees. Anyone who looks at IT or other "calling out incels" communities think we are the epitome of all things evil, literally worse than Hitler, Stalin etc.

But when you look at the numbers, this forum is quite active with new users joining every day. The number of the so-called evil nazi virgins is snowballing. Surely, if you guys are the moral. righteous good guys everyone would join you instead of joining us. As if calling the opposite side as the bad guys doesn't magically fix things.

It isn’t. Feel like this site is falling off.

 

[Dregster]

I also think that we won't go extinct but it is still going to be very bad. The world in the last 20 years has been formed into a very fast-paced world and our monkey brains have not been evolved to catch up to something like this. The way things are already going in the world with all the wars and the overall distress of the population, the fire will spread very fast.

Scientists and analysts are already panicking about the declining birthrates. We can best assume that they are crunching numbers and running simulations for potential results and reporting their findings to the elites.

They need babystep messages and laws reformed in very passive manners to make this situation better. That's why I believe it will take atleast 100 years to get the goyim on board with changes that will slowly degrade foid rights through laws being passed and encourage traditional values through old fashion propaganda, along with improved technology to artificially give birth to humans to recover from these declines.

 

[Dregster]

It isn’t. Feel like this site is falling off.

I dont buy this


The quality of posts has degraded, but the actual volume remains consistent from the last few times Ive looked at the active members.

It's just that most users post2021 seem to be overly retarded.

 

[notahindsight]

I dont buy this


The quality of posts has degraded, but the actual volume remains consistent from the last few times Ive looked at the active members.

It's just that most users post2021 seem to be overly retarded.

It is bound to happen when an online group gets popular. But inceldom is not an internet culture, it's a societal status and with this webstie being the most popular one for incels I doubt this website can ever lose it's userbase.

 

[Aegon Targaryen]

I've seen far too many examples of men who receive the slightest attention from women completely change their mindsets thinking they have a chance

Think before you sleep being a prominent example of this.

 

[NEB.feelsdevil]

because of how BS women's standards are

This is the answer.

Foids' insane standards are increasing exponentially. They want us to be taller, stronger, with broader shoulders, richer. It's simply not a sustainable model.

Fewer and fewer men are getting sex. Fewer and fewer men are getting into relationships. More and more men are some variation of KHHV.

 

[Jud Pottah]

Because the gaslight campaign never ceizes to End, until the Messiah comes Back!!

 

[Emba]

It's funny how I've argued this exact point for almost a decade and not a single one of these spineless soy cucks who I argue with ever gives me a viable and logical response.

Back in 2016, I used to say on r/incels that incels were just going to grow more and more in number as time passes because of how BS women's standards are, and in return, I would get barraged by a bunch of BS.

Fast forward to 2024, blackpill ideology and looksmaxxing are mainstream because the mid-tail end of Zoomers is starting to have good enough pattern recognition to see all the women in their generation going for the same Chads. If you go on TikTok, there are blackpill accounts with tens of thousands of followers. You got folks like Wheat Waffles with hundreds of thousands.

They always argue the fact that incels are only prevalent because of being brainwashed by other incels on the Internet, but we have had Web 2.0 since 2002? And BBSes since the late 80s? And we didn't have any of this blackpill and incel stuff actually being extremely prevalent through any online medium until the 2010s, when dating apps and dating sites were starting to take off.

Unwanted Men knew this stuff long ago bro.

We just didn't have the scientific unifying word, Incel, to describe our shituation.

But you are surly right about the exponential increase of awareness and actual inceldom due to "modern dating technology!"

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

It's funny how I've argued this exact point for almost a decade and not a single one of these spineless soy cucks who I argue with ever gives me a viable and logical response.

Back in 2016, I used to say on r/incels that incels were just going to grow more and more in number as time passes because of how BS women's standards are, and in return, I would get barraged by a bunch of BS.

Fast forward to 2024, blackpill ideology and looksmaxxing are mainstream because the mid-tail end of Zoomers is starting to have good enough pattern recognition to see all the women in their generation going for the same Chads. If you go on TikTok, there are blackpill accounts with tens of thousands of followers. You got folks like Wheat Waffles with hundreds of thousands.

They always argue the fact that incels are only prevalent because of being brainwashed by other incels on the Internet, but we have had Web 2.0 since 2002? And BBSes since the late 80s? And we didn't have any of this blackpill and incel stuff actually being extremely prevalent through any online medium until the 2010s, when dating apps and dating sites were starting to take off.

Precisely. And the point about incels having been brainwashed to come here is ridiculous. It's the other way around. We were brainwashed to think that it was our fault and women were not wrong for years in our redpill phase. It took years, literally YEARS of me rotting in loneliness and watching tons of redpill loneliness videos before I even found my first blackpill video. A Rehab Room video appeared in my recommended section. I don't think people realize how out of the box you have to think to even find vids like that, so we are anything buy brainwashed.

And finding the forum is a whole other story entirely. Took months of watching blackpill vids before I found this forum through a comments section of one of Rehab or Savvy's videos. We had to think for ourselves to find this stuff because it's suppressed so much and shadow banned essentially. People never stop to think that there is no mainstream incel media to even "brainwash" people into joining. They have to find it on their own

 

[ordinaryotaku]

Precisely. And the point about incels having been brainwashed to come here is ridiculous. It's the other way around. We were brainwashed to think that it was our fault and women were not wrong for years in our redpill phase. It took years, literally YEARS of me rotting in loneliness and watching tons of redpill loneliness videos before I even found my first blackpill video. A Rehab Room video appeared in my recommended section. I don't think people realize how out of the box you have to think to even find vids like that, so we are anything buy brainwashed.

And finding the forum is a whole other story entirely. Took months of watching blackpill vids before I found this forum through a comments section of one of Rehab or Savvy's videos. We had to think for ourselves to find this stuff because it's suppressed so much and shadow banned essentially. People never stop to think that there is no mainstream incel media to even "brainwash" people into joining. They have to find it on their own

Yep, same. I only came across incel stuff because of the way I was treated and it took me forever to find the incel community.

 

[KeepCoping]

The internet has exposed many things, its simple. So many stories, statistics etc, the blackpill is undeniable. We have so many platforms and info at our disposal. Its no surprise that many men are realizing that being an incel is a genuine thing.

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

Yep, same. I only came across incel stuff because of the way I was treated and it took me forever to find the incel community.

I think that’s the case for most people here. I was treated badly or just invisible for basically a decade now. Took so much searching about my experiences before I found this place. And of course, IT won’t touch this thread because it shatters their narrative that we were brainwashed to be this way

 

[notahindsight]

I think that’s the case for most people here. I was treated badly or just invisible for basically a decade now. Took so much searching about my experiences before I found this place. And of course, IT won’t touch this thread because it shatters their narrative that we were brainwashed to be this way

They will post obvious ragebait from here but will never post an actual talking point. I know you are reading these you cowards.

inb4 they are not actually growing in size and if they do that's because all men are notsees

 

[autisticmanchild]

Blackpill is the next athiesm

 

[lifesucksxd]

15 years is not enough time for the improvement I predict, in my opinion. Things will get worse before actual improvement begins to happen.

I can definitely see things getting worse in the next 15 yrs. I expect to be dead by the time all this shit gets resolved properly.

yep we were born at the worst time possible. right after the boomers lived the best life mankind ever lived and before the shit gets resolved. it sucks so much. even if things improve we'll be too old to enjoy the changes. it's always depressed me so much

 

[Dregster]

yep we were born at the worst time possible. right after the boomers lived the best life mankind ever lived and before the shit gets resolved. it sucks so much. even if things improve we'll be too old to enjoy the changes. it's always depressed me so much

Yeah, if we were to make a chart, we will probably be the lowest point

 

[faded]

Asking to all the lurkers and foids out there. You have polarized and ostracized men being frustrated about the experiences to the point everyone is starting to be pissed off at life. This angry and violent rhetoric of us did not come out of nowhere. But all you want to interpret is that we are all violent and evil and hecking notsees. Anyone who looks at IT or other "calling out incels" communities think we are the epitome of all things evil, literally worse than Hitler, Stalin etc.

But when you look at the numbers, this forum is quite active with new users joining every day. The number of the so-called evil nazi virgins is snowballing. Surely, if you guys are the moral. righteous good guys everyone would join you instead of joining us. As if calling the opposite side as the bad guys doesn't magically fix things.

Shabbbbbbbbbbbbat

 

[notahindsight]

Yeah, if we were to make a chart, we will probably be the lowest point

People would argue that "every other generation for the last 4000 years says that they are living the in the worst times and the next generation will surely bring the end of the world" but the world's advancement is logarithmic. We are living at times never seen before. Despite less wars and longer lifespans, people are not happy and we are still living in another form of misery. We are also marching towards a certain doom with trends of the world showing this. Climate change, mass immigration all across the globe, drought, declining birth rates, social media spreading anger like wildfire etc.

 

[Wombles The Roastie]

It's funny how I've argued this exact point for almost a decade and not a single one of these spineless soy cucks who I argue with ever gives me a viable and logical response.

Back in 2016, I used to say on r/incels that incels were just going to grow more and more in number as time passes because of how BS women's standards are, and in return, I would get barraged by a bunch of BS.

Fast forward to 2024, blackpill ideology and looksmaxxing are mainstream because the mid-tail end of Zoomers is starting to have good enough pattern recognition to see all the women in their generation going for the same Chads. If you go on TikTok, there are blackpill accounts with tens of thousands of followers. You got folks like Wheat Waffles with hundreds of thousands.

They always argue the fact that incels are only prevalent because of being brainwashed by other incels on the Internet, but we have had Web 2.0 since 2002? And BBSes since the late 80s? And we didn't have any of this blackpill and incel stuff actually being extremely prevalent through any online medium until the 2010s, when dating apps and dating sites were starting to take off.

Ur right about everything but also how are you grey even tho u have 14k posts and from 2017?

 

[ordinaryotaku]

Ur right about everything but also how are you grey even tho u have 14k posts and from 2017?

You can customize your rank color after a certain amount of posts. Don't remember what it was. I specifically chose grey, because funny.