You are obviously right. But it's all about relatives. They are, relatively speaking, the "most moral" women. And so we should try our best to make them reproduce a lot so in the future there will be more, and kinder, women. They IMHO don't have to be perfect to warrant protection for that reason alone. It's similar to e.g. I fully support Israel even though they do lots of wrong things as they are simply the "most moral" in that region.
I don't think the genetic perspective is the right one in this case. Humanity will be editing its genome to be w/e we want it to be long before we have made a meaningful impact on female nature through breeding (especially since the impact of this would be so small).
If you don't pressure ok-ish girls to do better, they have no incentive to do so. They will already get every bit of attention and support they could get from men like you just by being a little bit nice. So, they will maximize their own benefits by catering more to other people, trying to find out where the spot of "minimal niceness" is where you will still fully support them.
Obviously, irl I would advise you to forget all about that and just be nice to any women who is nice to you so you can get out of this hell. But, from a more theoretical / moralistic perspective, I think men need to be careful not to sell themselves and their support so cheaply. If you give everything for so little, you have nothing more to bargain with.
Btw, very happy that you feel that way about Israel and the conflict over there. I don't care about the country itself much, but it's just nice to see someone be that reasonable on here on that particular topic lmao.
Yeah, absolutely not. But you also need to consider that these women are judged negatively by their peers. So even though the action itself doesn't cost them a lot, they might be harmed because other women and men might think of them less. People often see kindness as weakness and they might see that the nice women just cannot get anyone better.
True. Although they get much more positive male attention for being pro-male (in very low-effort ways) than they get hate from other women. I suspect it's more that they get the positive attention of most men (especially low status ones) no matter what they do, so it's basically worthless to them.
Like, I would definitively be very nice and forgiving to a girl who does something as kind as sleeping with an incel. Even if that doesn't come across in the way I talk about it. I would still try to see the worst in the woman who just was kind to me (or another man in need), but I wouldn't judge her harshly for it. We are all flawed animals, I can forgive most things and I would do my best to forgive someone who has proven herself like that. But I would still want to at least be allowed to perceive "the bad" in that person. And I would want to push her to be even better. To leave room for someone even better to be treated even better by me. Something like that.
Hope you are doing well mate. Nice to see you are still around.
