LDAR I will never work another day in my life

[Letting Go]

I refuse to contribute to this society anymore. I will live off my savings and then kill myself once my money runs out.

My 32 year-old brother has the right idea. He gave up on life 10+ years ago and has been NEET ever since. He only leaves the house once a week, to go shopping with my dad so he can deposit bottles and cans to fund his video game purchases. He has no interest in participating in such an openly hostile society as this one. He completely ignores my dad whenever he talks to him about getting a job and doing something with his life. He would also wave his fat middle finger at Jordan Peterson if given the chance. He has long figured out that being a productive member of society isn't worth the time, effort, hassle, and stress. He saw where decades of hard work and self-improvement got me (spoiler: nowhere) and was wise enough to not follow in my footsteps. Compared to me, he is well ahead of the curve, like the countless Japanese males who similarly reject their society to LDAR.

 

[Darthmat]

The only reason men of the past slaved away in these shitty jobs with long hours and no hope was to be able to survive, be beta bucks and to have kids and sex despite dumbass feminist trained women thinking jobs are fun and emotionally fufilling.

Without either(hell they don't even pretend to give us retirement anymore) who the fuck cares. Rather enjoy life while I'm young and have bladder control than being an old bitch on life support with a few years left.

P.s Jordon is a Boomer piece of shit cocksucker with a cushy office position and tenure. Can't blame him as he makes easy money playing back alley pimp daddy to direction less suckers with too much money who need somebody to tell them the obvious and to keep the younglings working hard to find his retirement.

 

[Letting Go]

The only reason men of the past slaved away in these shitty jobs with long hours and no hope was to be able to survive, be beta bucks and to have kids and sex despite dumbass feminist trained women thinking jobs are fun and emotionally fufilling.

Without either(hell they don't even pretend to give us retirement anymore) who the fuck cares. Rather enjoy life while I'm young and have bladder control than being an old bitch on life support with a few years left.

P.s Jordon is a Boomer piece of shit cocksucker with a cushy office position and tenure. Can't blame him as he makes easy money playing back alley pimp daddy to direction less suckers with too much money who need somebody to tell them the obvious and to keep the younglings working hard to find his retirement.

Well said.

Have you ever read The Misandry Bubble? The author does a good job of talking about the dire implications this has for civilization as a whole:

"To provide 'beta' men an incentive to produce far more economic output than needed just to support themselves while simultaneously controlling the hypergamy of women that would deprive children of interaction with their biological fathers, all major religions constructed an institution to force constructive conduct out of both genders while penalizing the natural primate tendencies of each. This institution was known as 'marriage'. Societies that enforced monogamous marriage made sure all beta men had wives, thus unlocking productive output out of these men who in pre-modern times would have had no incentive to be productive. Women, in turn, received a provider, a protector, and higher social status than unmarried women, who often were trapped in poverty. When applied over an entire population of humans, this system was known as 'civilization'.

All societies that achieved great advances and lasted for multiple centuries followed this formula with very little deviation, and it is quite remarkable how similar the nature of monogamous marriage was across seemingly diverse cultures. Societies that deviated from this were quickly replaced. This 'contract' between the sexes was advantageous to beta men, women over the age of 35, and children, but greatly curbed the activities of alpha men and women under 35 (together, a much smaller group than the former one). Conversely, the pre-civilized norm of alpha men monopolizing 3 or more young women each, replacing aging ones with new ones, while the masses of beta men fight over a tiny supply of surplus/aging women, was chaotic and unstable, leaving beta men violent and unproductive, and aging mothers discarded by their alpha mates now vulnerable to poverty."

It's well worth a read if you have some free time:
http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

 

[Letting Go]

I regret studying hard to get good grades while other people were indulging in debauchery.

Me too. I was lied to my entire life and didn't realize it until I had already thrown away the better part of my youth. Now I take whatever I can get out of society while minimizing my contributions.

 

[Letting Go]

I disagree with this misandry bubble thing. Most men are cuckold will still work hard to provide for their wife while their wives fuck other men .

Married betas will indeed slave away to support their ungrateful wives and children. My father is a perfect example of this. However, the pool of single beta men is shrinking fast due to lack of reward and appreciation for their hard work. Men who would have been "respectable" betas in previous times are now opting for a more comfy omega lifestyle that consists of video games, anime, porn, and other forms of escapism. I can't say I blame them. In fact, I am now joining their ranks myself.

 

[Letting Go]

But the number of cuckold men is increasing day by day. By cuckold i mean literal cuckold who allow their wives to fuck other men .

The number of married cucks may be increasing, but so is the number of single men who have completely dropped out of society because they don't have any incentive to work hard like their fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, etc. did. It's the latter group of men that will create severe ramifications for civilization once a critical mass is reached.

 

[Darthmat]

Well said.

Have you ever read The Misandry Bubble? The author does a good job of talking about the dire implications this has for civilization as a whole:

"To provide 'beta' men an incentive to produce far more economic output than needed just to support themselves while simultaneously controlling the hypergamy of women that would deprive children of interaction with their biological fathers, all major religions constructed an institution to force constructive conduct out of both genders while penalizing the natural primate tendencies of each. This institution was known as 'marriage'. Societies that enforced monogamous marriage made sure all beta men had wives, thus unlocking productive output out of these men who in pre-modern times would have had no incentive to be productive. Women, in turn, received a provider, a protector, and higher social status than unmarried women, who often were trapped in poverty. When applied over an entire population of humans, this system was known as 'civilization'.

All societies that achieved great advances and lasted for multiple centuries followed this formula with very little deviation, and it is quite remarkable how similar the nature of monogamous marriage was across seemingly diverse cultures. Societies that deviated from this were quickly replaced. This 'contract' between the sexes was advantageous to beta men, women over the age of 35, and children, but greatly curbed the activities of alpha men and women under 35 (together, a much smaller group than the former one). Conversely, the pre-civilized norm of alpha men monopolizing 3 or more young women each, replacing aging ones with new ones, while the masses of beta men fight over a tiny supply of surplus/aging women, was chaotic and unstable, leaving beta men violent and unproductive, and aging mothers discarded by their alpha mates now vulnerable to poverty."

It's well worth a read if you have some free time:
http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

I'll give it a read though it a lot like what most know on mgtow forums. Women and men had their Natural Instincts suppress for the good of humanity and civilization but now we don't have those incentives no more and there aren't much records of feminist societies because they all died out quick as hell. Only reason our society still exist now is because of Technology which is put us A Step Above animals and even a pussy becomes a threat if they have a gun or their finger on the button to a missile(line from a movie I can't remember).

One thing they're not talking about in the media is that we've had doctor and nurse shortages for decades now and the way the government is addressing it Is by given all these tuitions, grants and other bullshit to help incentivize people to go into the field because you have to be blue pill as fuck to go into the medical field because it's long hours a lot of liability lot of insurance requirements a lot of studying to get there and a lot of time before you can get payback for it which is years down the drain. Why bother doing all that shit when you can get a highest paying job that isn't being a doctor less stressful you know.

Your aunt went to the hospital and she commented on how the nurses all have attitudes and they don't give a damn and my uncle was saying that back in the day nurses didn't act like this and doctors care about their patients and I tell him all this affirmative action stuff they get these people in here to Crunch the numbers up that don't need to be doctors and nurses but that's what happens when your civilization is collapsing and you're running out of blue pillars.

 

[Letting Go]

I'll give it a read though it a lot like what most know on mgtow forums. Women and men had their Natural Instincts suppress for the good of humanity and civilization but now we don't have those incentives no more and there aren't much records of feminist societies because they all died out quick as hell. Only reason our society still exist now is because of Technology which is put us A Step Above animals and even a pussy becomes a threat if they have a gun or their finger on the button to a missile(line from a movie I can't remember).

One thing they're not talking about in the media is that we've had doctor and nurse shortages for decades now and the way the government is addressing it Is by given all these tuitions, grants and other bullshit to help incentivize people to go into the field because you have to be blue pill as fuck to go into the medical field because it's long hours a lot of liability lot of insurance requirements a lot of studying to get there and a lot of time before you can get payback for it which is years down the drain. Why bother doing all that shit when you can get a highest paying job that isn't being a doctor less stressful you know.

Your aunt went to the hospital and she commented on how the nurses all have attitudes and they don't give a damn and my uncle was saying that back in the day nurses didn't act like this and doctors care about their patients and I tell him all this affirmative action stuff they get these people in here to Crunch the numbers up that don't need to be doctors and nurses but that's what happens when your civilization is collapsing and you're running out of blue pillars.

Good point about men rejecting more demanding professions with higher stress and longer hours. Why even bother working yourself to an early grave in a society like this one? Early in my career, I worked a few high-stress jobs that I ended up quitting because it wasn't worth it. Without a wife and kids to support, I was later able to get by working more laid-back jobs that didn't make me feel like blowing my brains out every night. Now I'm dropping out of the workforce altogether. I refuse to support a society that has cheated me out of having a decent wife and children.

My grandfather's generation had a lot more incentive to put in long hours, as they were rewarded with better salaries relative to the overall cost of living, pensions that no longer exist in the private sector, appreciative wives, and the respected status of being a provider (which has greatly diminished over the course of my lifetime).

 

[Darthmat]

Good point about men rejecting more demanding professions with higher stress and longer hours. Why even bother working yourself to an early grave in a society like this one? Early in my career, I worked a few high-stress jobs that I ended up quitting because it wasn't worth it. Without a wife and kids to support, I was able to get by working more laid-back jobs that didn't make me feel like blowing my brains out every night.

My grandfather's generation had a lot more incentive to put in long hours, as they were rewarded with better salaries relative to the overall cost of living, pensions that no longer exist in the private sector, appreciative wives, and the respected status of being a provider (which has greatly diminished over the course of my lifetime).

I worked warehouse when I was younger and wish I could take those years back(and the damage to my knee). Hell it's the opposite now if your not a coping thug retarded and are a mild mannered well spoken respected guy then society goes out of it's way to disrespect you, use you like a condom and throw you away and if you get upset about it they kill you or recycle you as prison labor til you burn out.

Yeah fuck this civilization.

 

[Braincel14w]

Well said.

Have you ever read The Misandry Bubble? The author does a good job of talking about the dire implications this has for civilization as a whole:

"To provide 'beta' men an incentive to produce far more economic output than needed just to support themselves while simultaneously controlling the hypergamy of women that would deprive children of interaction with their biological fathers, all major religions constructed an institution to force constructive conduct out of both genders while penalizing the natural primate tendencies of each. This institution was known as 'marriage'. Societies that enforced monogamous marriage made sure all beta men had wives, thus unlocking productive output out of these men who in pre-modern times would have had no incentive to be productive. Women, in turn, received a provider, a protector, and higher social status than unmarried women, who often were trapped in poverty. When applied over an entire population of humans, this system was known as 'civilization'.

All societies that achieved great advances and lasted for multiple centuries followed this formula with very little deviation, and it is quite remarkable how similar the nature of monogamous marriage was across seemingly diverse cultures. Societies that deviated from this were quickly replaced. This 'contract' between the sexes was advantageous to beta men, women over the age of 35, and children, but greatly curbed the activities of alpha men and women under 35 (together, a much smaller group than the former one). Conversely, the pre-civilized norm of alpha men monopolizing 3 or more young women each, replacing aging ones with new ones, while the masses of beta men fight over a tiny supply of surplus/aging women, was chaotic and unstable, leaving beta men violent and unproductive, and aging mothers discarded by their alpha mates now vulnerable to poverty."

It's well worth a read if you have some free time:
http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

Thank you for the link to the article. I agree with all that. It's kind of what I was getting at in my previous post where I come up with a solution to this (admittedly very unrealistic).
https://incels.is/threads/make-adultery-a-crime.30072/

 

[AK74]

I'm gonna try to get a job at blizzard as a coder and then get a promotion so I can be a game designer, other than that I will do youtube

 

[Braincel14w]

Go self employed. Get paid in cash and do your own accounts. I'm not contributing anything to the single mother farm that is the state

 

[Letting Go]

Thank you for the link to the article. I agree with all that. It's kind of what I was getting at in my previous post where I come up with a solution to this (admittedly very unrealistic).
https://incels.is/threads/make-adultery-a-crime.30072/

Turkey's President Erdogan favors making adultery illegal. He is one of the few world leaders with any balls.

In my world, convicted cheaters would be sent to the guillotines, along with foids who commit paternity fraud. Paternity testing would be mandatory so that no man is ever duped into supporting another man's children for 18+ years. And marriages would be sold as renewable five-year contracts with less risk of "divorce rape" for the husband.

 

[Braincel14w]

Turkey's President Erdogan favors making adultery illegal. He is one of the few world leaders with any balls.

In my world, convicted cheaters would be sent to the guillotines, along with foids who commit paternity fraud. Paternity testing would be mandatory so that no man is ever duped into financially supporting another man's children for 18+ years.

We really do need our own version of Sharia. Crazy to think that the retarded Muslims have it right but I think it explains why they're taking over Europe so easily and without a fight.

 

[Letting Go]

We really do need our own version of Sharia. Crazy to think that the retarded Muslims have it right but I think it explains why they're taking over Europe so easily and without a fight.

The aforementioned Misandry Bubble article talks about how depraved societies like ours are doomed to become overtaken by more patriarchal ones such as Islam. The sooner the better as far as I am concerned, as long as I have more of a stake in the new society than I do in this one.

 

[Miro Chad]

What is your Brother doing all day? I am asking since I read that 10 Million Men dropped out of society in the USA but I am wondering what they are doing. Our forum here should be bigger if that number is correct.

 

[Letting Go]

What is your Brother doing all day? I am asking since I read that 10 Million Men dropped out of society in the USA but I am wondering what they are doing. Our forum here should be bigger if that number is correct.

My brother spends every day of his life playing video games, browsing the internet, and watching shows/movies/anime. That's all he ever does aside from basic functions like eating, drinking, and sleeping.

 

[Tellem--T]

As NEET myself I already withdraws my self from this trash society,for now atleast,I don't think my mom will let me NEET for too long

 

[Deleted member 2119]

Contributing to society is only good when you get something back that you value. But you don't get it so it makes no sense to do anything for society

 

[NYincel]

I refuse to contribute to this society anymore. I will live off my savings and then kill myself once my money runs out.

My 32 year-old brother has the right idea. He gave up on life 10+ years ago and has been NEET ever since. He only leaves the house once a week, to go shopping with my dad so he can deposit bottles and cans to fund his video game purchases. He has no interest in participating in such an openly hostile society as this one. He completely ignores my dad whenever he talks to him about getting a job and doing something with his life. He would also wave his fat middle finger at Jordan Peterson if given the chance. He has long figured out that being a productive member of society isn't worth the time, effort, hassle, and stress. He saw where decades of hard work and self-improvement got me (spoiler: nowhere) and was wise enough to not follow in my footsteps. Compared to me, he is well ahead of the curve, like the countless Japanese males who similarly reject their society to LDAR.

True, you are working to pay taxes and support welfare bulls to reproduce. I make a few bucks from programming, get some neetbucks, fix my own shit. Simple lifestyle.

 

[TG-25]

I refuse to contribute to this society anymore. I will live off my savings and then kill myself once my money runs out.

My 32 year-old brother has the right idea. He gave up on life 10+ years ago and has been NEET ever since. He only leaves the house once a week, to go shopping with my dad so he can deposit bottles and cans to fund his video game purchases. He has no interest in participating in such an openly hostile society as this one. He completely ignores my dad whenever he talks to him about getting a job and doing something with his life. He would also wave his fat middle finger at Jordan Peterson if given the chance. He has long figured out that being a productive member of society isn't worth the time, effort, hassle, and stress. He saw where decades of hard work and self-improvement got me (spoiler: nowhere) and was wise enough to not follow in my footsteps. Compared to me, he is well ahead of the curve, like the countless Japanese males who similarly reject their society to LDAR.

How will your parents support 2 NEETs? Even if they are higher up wageslaves it’s a struggle and they are getting old

 

[NYincel]

My brother spends every day of his life playing video games, browsing the internet, and watching shows/movies/anime. That's all he ever does aside from basic functions like eating, drinking, and sleeping.

Sounds a bit like me, but I got tired of video games. I like to write little apps, but I never finish anything.

 

[ArtoriasWolf]

There are some jobs you can get where you can get away with doing literally nothing all day.

 

[KyloRen]

How long do you have until money runs out?

 

[Letting Go]

How long do you have until money runs out?

However long I can make $50k cash + another $25k investments last. That's my emergency fund and I am giving exactly $0 of it to my selfish mother after my father dies!

 

[Letting Go]

How will your parents support 2 NEETs? Even if they are higher up wageslaves it’s a struggle and they are getting old

They brought us into this world so they can figure it out themselves.

 

[KyloRen]

However long I can make $50k cash + another $25k investments last. That's my emergency fund and I am giving exactly $0 of it to my selfish mother after my father dies!

So, you live at home with your parents?

 

[Letting Go]

So, you live at home with your parents?

Yes, without any shame whatsoever. The only way I could see myself living on my own again is if I got a girlfriend or FWB. Otherwise, what's the point of paying thousands of dollars to landlords, banks and/or governments via property taxes each year? I might as well hold onto my money and enjoy the luxury of not having to work for as long as possible.

 

[KyloRen]

Yes, without any shame whatsoever. The only way I could see myself living on my own again is if I got a girlfriend or FWB. Otherwise, what's the point of paying thousands of dollars to landlords, banks and/or governments via property taxes each year?

Smart man.

So those 50k + 25k will go a long way?

 

[Letting Go]

Smart man.

So those 50k + 25k will go a long way?

It should last me a few years if I live overseas where the USD stretches further. I just renewed my passport, so that's good for another ten years.

 

[KyloRen]

It should last me a few years if I live overseas where the USD stretches further. I just renewed my passport, so that's good for another ten years.

Also not a bad idea. You can escortcel too.

 

[Letting Go]

Also not a bad idea. You can escortcel too.

That's probably the main reason I want to leave the USA. Even in Nevada where prostitution is legal, the cost is so much higher than other places around the world.

 

[mylifeistrash]

Great thread. Men should drop out of society and leech / destroy it as much as possible.

It should last me a few years if I live overseas where the USD stretches further. I just renewed my passport, so that's good for another ten years.

USA is the cheapest place to live besides the rent. Groceries and goods cost more even in southeast asia.

 

[KyloRen]

That's probably the main reason I want to leave the USA. Even in Nevada where prostitution is legal, the cost is so much higher than other places around the world.

Yeah. When do you plan on leaving?

 

[Letting Go]

Yeah. When do you plan on leaving?

Whenever I reach my breaking point which could be any day now.

 

[KyloRen]

Whenever I reach my breaking point which could be any day now.

I'm surprised you lasted this long. You're strong.

 

[Letting Go]

USA is the cheapest place to live besides the rent. Groceries and goods cost more even in southeast asia.

This is a resourceful website that compares the cost-of-living between countries:
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/comparison

The USA is ranked 170th overall. You can also compare different cities around the world.

 

[Letting Go]

I'm surprised you lasted this long. You're strong.

If I were really strong, I would have offed myself a long time ago.

But I guess you could say I'm resilient. I pretty much have to be.

 

[mylifeistrash]

This is a resourceful website that compares the cost-of-living between countries:
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/comparison

The USA is ranked 170th overall. You can also compare different cities around the world.

This is a resourceful website that compares the cost-of-living between countries:
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/comparison

The USA is ranked 170th overall. You can also compare different cities around the world.

It compares rent prices. If you live with parents or have a place to stay for free, USA wins.

 

[Letting Go]

If you live with parents or have a place to stay for free, USA wins.

In terms of cost maybe. In terms of having access to legal escorts and preserving my sanity, I would rather live just about anywhere else.

 

[BlaKdaGGeRz]

I'm gonna try to get a job at blizzard as a coder and then get a promotion so I can be a game designer, other than that I will do youtube

blizzard is a dead company their games after 2009 are pure toilet shit idk why you would ever want to work for them. On top of that the main leaders of the directions of the games are hired as "family and friends", basically corruption, so good luck trying to get there. Then of course there is the chains of $$ that will prevent you from using your creative energy and you will be forced to make a game based off $$ charts and other shit. Why don't you just make your own game?

 

[C450_4matic]

I refuse to contribute to this society anymore. I will live off my savings and then kill myself once my money runs out.

My 32 year-old brother has the right idea. He gave up on life 10+ years ago and has been NEET ever since. He only leaves the house once a week, to go shopping with my dad so he can deposit bottles and cans to fund his video game purchases. He has no interest in participating in such an openly hostile society as this one. He completely ignores my dad whenever he talks to him about getting a job and doing something with his life. He would also wave his fat middle finger at Jordan Peterson if given the chance. He has long figured out that being a productive member of society isn't worth the time, effort, hassle, and stress. He saw where decades of hard work and self-improvement got me (spoiler: nowhere) and was wise enough to not follow in my footsteps. Compared to me, he is well ahead of the curve, like the countless Japanese males who similarly reject their society to LDAR.

Your dad's one hell of a proud man

 

[AK74]

blizzard is a dead company their games after 2009 are pure toilet shit idk why you would ever want to work for them. On top of that the main leaders of the directions of the games are hired as "family and friends", basically corruption, so good luck trying to get there. Then of course there is the chains of $$ that will prevent you from using your creative energy and you will be forced to make a game based off $$ charts and other shit. Why don't you just make your own game?

Good point and ofc a requirement for being any kind of game designer at blizzard is to have 6 years of experience designing games at another company

Game design as opposed to coding or other very shitty jobs is like a privilege now instead of something you can earn

 

[jackbud]

same, only options for me are NEETdom or self-employment

 

[Weirdcel]

This thread is massive suifuel for me.

 

[Letting Go]

27:20 into this video...



Stefan Molyneux discusses how women marrying the government (while having affairs with Chad on the side) results in men like us having less incentive to become productive members of society. As I can say from my own personal experience, he's right on the money!

 

[jackbud]

It compares rent prices. If you live with parents or have a place to stay for free, USA wins.

definitely man