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I think India inevitable remains poor because of soviet influence.

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ia is a big place with a population projected to be around 2 billion in the near future so with a population of such a large surplus, such fertile lands why is it so poor still? Common explanations colonialism? It played a part but not really the biggest factor. Lower innate intelligence I don't see any evidence for that the weaving skills, the textiles industry and the massive amount of literature points towards the inverse most of Indian history has been more progressive than the west in many aspects the pluralism in the gods. The open-ended question to creation hell the Vedic philophy literally transcribed it's thoughts as purely starting with the assumption of question everything this is the inverse of the western System or model of philosophy for the west it's more about experimentation and fence sitting Indian philosophy has an apriori assumption to always question everything.

2 Know that we put out the reason as to why India cannot be failing due to an inherently lower IQ or British colonialism what is the 2nd question to ask? Well the best question would be what, makes some economies rich and others very poor? And I came to the conclusion that it has little to do with geographic determinism but rather the way the resources in your economy is efficiently allocated and how is a business run all these factors.


3 After leaving the British empire an highly non capitalistic and authoritarian system India was left in a conundrum how do they emulate the wealth of the 1st world nations whilst still retaining a high standard of living. And at the time the 2 major spheres of influence was the Americans and the soviets. The Japanese got the American influence and look where they turned out same with Korea India got the soviet influence and what happened? Massive stagnation insane amounts of poverty it was recently this has slowly started to change but the detrimental affects are still being felt to this day.

4 When 1 looks at it for the long run for India to be a 1st world super power it needs a lassie fair capitalist economy which firmly respects property rights and massively encourages migrations this is a fundamental towards a 1st worst world India.



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the demand to deal with inceldom arises as a solution
Sorry bro, i highly doubt it they would care.
 
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Street shiters are usually low IQ and thus can't build and maintain the necessary infrastructure and systems to make a successful modernized nation. Add in a massive population the nation can't support on top of that and you see where problems start to arise, same thing with blacks in Africa.

That's the blackpill:blackpill:
 
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Are you on the spectrum bro ?. :dafuckfeels:
 
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Street shiters are usually low IQ and thus can't build and maintain the necessary infrastructure and systems to make a successful modernized nation. Add in a massive population the nation can't support on top of that and you see where problems start to arise, same thing with blacks in Africa.

That's the blackpill

Your very retarded no offense.
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Are you on the spectrum bro ?. :dafuckfeels:

Nothing to do with this thread.
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Sorry bro, i highly doubt it they would care.

HMMMMM even the current econamy is pushing for it look at sex bots i mean it's miss placed and the true fix should be an cheapining in regulations so stuff like jaw surgery becomes accessible but that's a separate issue my main point was India got behind because of poor economic solutions.
 
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Huge cope, India has a big workforce and will lately follow a similar path than China's one (industrialize and exercise soft power throughout the world).

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Huge cope, India has a big workforce and will lately follow a similar path than China's one (industrialize and exercise soft power throughout the world).

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Yeah but it's getting richer through a shitty psedo quasi capitalism if we had Milton friedman India would churn out quadrupole the GDP of the British empire in 30 years how do I know this?



Better tech, much more efficient wealth allocation of resources, much larger worker base and consumers more consumers means more wealth generated and more skilled workers in general boiling it all down we could be the number 1 empire in history within a century it's pissing me off people don't realize this.
 
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It's over for curryland, we will still be 30-40 years behind China.
 
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It's over for curryland, we will still be 30-40 years behind China.

We'd be 60 years ahead with laisse faire capitalism especially know with the amount of communication and technology we have it's no way near over it just began but the leaders are putting the sham that is modern India on life support.
 
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Yeah but it's getting richer through a shitty psedo quasi capitalism if we had Milton friedman India would churn out quadrupole the GDP of the British empire in 30 years how do I know this?



Better tech, much more efficient wealth allocation of resources, much larger worker base and consumers more consumers means more wealth generated and more skilled workers in general boiling it all down we could be the number 1 empire in history within a century it's pissing me off people don't realize this.
For sure you guys wouldn't, no country became rich following Milton's ideas, but by following more keynesian ideas (developmentalism, state regulating currency, bank system and so on).

India will become rich if the government commits into industrializing the country, the same way it was done in China.

India seems to have a very unstable history after islam spread in the region tbh, at least now you guys have the chance of beating US (and maybe China, since its population will shrink to half)
 
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people here are absolute morons
the tax rate is >40%
there's no point trying to do anything here.
anyone with even moderate IQ and ability has managed to get the fuck out of this shithole.
 
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For sure you guys wouldn't, no country became rich following Milton's ideas, but by following more keynesian ideas (developmentalism, state regulating currency, bank system and so on).

India will become rich if the government commits into industrializing the country, the same way it was done in China.

India seems to have a very unstable history after islam spread in the region tbh, at least now you guys have the chance of beating US (and maybe China, since its population will shrink to half)

Bro keysianism will stagnate the economy central planning in the government side for 5 year plans always delays potential competition by competiting interests. This has been the model for the ancient greeks even plato was a big fan of oligarchs making big decisions like this this causes poverty not wealth.

British people would be as poor as India if they didn't have the system milton suggested even then they implanted a shitty format of it even today britain is not caiptalistic
 
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Bro keysianism will stagnate the economy central planning in the government side for 5 year plans always delays potential competition by competiting interests. This has been the model for the ancient greeks even plato was a big fan of oligarchs making big decisions like this this causes poverty not wealth.

British people would be as poor as India if they didn't have the system milton suggested even then they implanted a shitty format of it even today britain is not caiptalistic
Keynesianism do the opposite of stagnating the economy, since its purpose is the a government intervence in order to incentive comsunption (lower interest rates, social programs, create jobs and so on). What stagnates an economy is a country being with high unemployment rates and the government takes no action, since the comsunption will fall leading to more and more unemployment.

I don't know what plato supported in the regards of economics, honestly.

Even the east India company was financially supported by the british government.

How is britain is not capitalistic? Wtf are you talking about?

Columbus himself received government funds to make his travel to the new world. If they followed milton's system, this would take a lot longer to happen
 
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It's not industrialised and never went through the industrial manufacturing age to the extent the rest of the post industrial and industrial world went, it's as simple as that. That relative shitholery ensures that govt and society doesn't have that requisite excess wealth for foids to be economically emancipated so its good in the long run plus you can never realistically give 1.5 billion people first world lifestyle anyway, it's just plain unsustainable and is prone to heavy debt traps. An industrialized or a post industrial services based country with high end manufacturing is a rich country, it can be deindustrialised as well, like in North Korea, it used to have the highest per capita income after Japan in Asia up until 1979, now its a deindustrialized famine ridden shithole. This, plus it followed 5 year plans yet it did nothing to industrialize, cos its legit impossible to mass industrialize in a democracy.
 
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trying to ascend said:
Huge cope, India has a big workforce and will lately follow a similar path than China's one (industrialize and exercise soft power throughout the world).

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I dunno before thay said India would be a superpower by 2020 and it didn't happen. Seems like the climate change end of the world articles, in 1980s they said that the poles would melt and coast cities would be flooded by 2010s, didn't happen so now they say the same but for 2050 kek.
 
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Keynesianism do the opposite of stagnating the economy, since its purpose is the a government intervence in order to incentive comsunption (lower interest rates, social programs, create jobs and so on). What stagnates an economy is a country being with high unemployment rates and the government takes no action, since the comsunption will fall leading to more and more unemployment.

I don't know what plato supported in the regards of economics, honestly.

Even the east India company was financially supported by the british government.

How is britain is not capitalistic? Wtf are you talking about?

Columbus himself received government funds to make his travel to the new world. If they followed milton's system, this would take a lot longer to happen

1 Government intervention to incentivize trade never has worked any where near as effiencetly as leaving it to the private sector interests race only are ever possible to be high because of subsidises to bigger cooperations. Also what stagnates a country isn't low employment it's an currency with no value look at Weimar Germany the currency had 0 effect because the monetary value of the marks had nothing to back it up it wasn't scarce literally Keynesianism fucked up Germany.

2 Plato supported a form of Keynesianism or very similar to it NGL.

3 The British empire wasn't Capitalist it was cronyism it stole from poorer countries, strove stronger divided lines between the inhabitants. in short The British empire was a phenomenal failure.

4 You can get investment by private countries it doesn't take a fortune buy a ship
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It's not industrialised and never went through the industrial manufacturing age to the extent the rest of the post industrial and industrial world went, it's as simple as that. That relative shitholery ensures that govt and society doesn't have that requisite excess wealth for foids to be economically emancipated so its good in the long run plus you can never realistically give 1.5 billion people first world lifestyle anyway, it's just plain unsustainable and is prone to heavy debt traps. An industrialized or a post industrial services based country with high end manufacturing is a rich country, it can be deindustrialised as well, like in North Korea, it used to have the highest per capita income after Japan in Asia up until 1979, now its a deindustrialized famine ridden shithole. This, plus it followed 5 year plans yet it did nothing to industrialize, cos its legit impossible to mass industrialize in a democracy.

It's not industrialized ? are you high sure small parts aren't but most of India certainly is above the agriculture age it's poorer than it could be but the ideal of change is always there and it is always possible. 1.5 billion only helps speed up the process.
 
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Just wonder why abos that still shit in there drinking water (rivers) are poor bro.
 
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ryhan said:
ia is a big place with a population projected to be around 2 billion in the near future so with a population of such a large surplus, such fertile lands why is it so poor still? Common explanations colonialism? It played a part but not really the biggest factor. Lower innate intelligence I don't see any evidence for that the weaving skills, the textiles industry and the massive amount of literature points towards the inverse most of Indian history has been more progressive than the west in many aspects the pluralism in the gods. The open-ended question to creation hell the Vedic philophy literally transcribed it's thoughts as purely starting with the assumption of question everything this is the inverse of the western System or model of philosophy for the west it's more about experimentation and fence sitting Indian philosophy has an apriori assumption to always question everything.

2 Know that we put out the reason as to why India cannot be failing due to an inherently lower IQ or British colonialism what is the 2nd question to ask? Well the best question would be what, makes some economies rich and others very poor? And I came to the conclusion that it has little to do with geographic determinism but rather the way the resources in your economy is efficiently allocated and how is a business run all these factors.


3 After leaving the British empire an highly non capitalistic and authoritarian system India was left in a conundrum how do they emulate the wealth of the 1st world nations whilst still retaining a high standard of living. And at the time the 2 major spheres of influence was the Americans and the soviets. The Japanese got the American influence and look where they turned out same with Korea India got the soviet influence and what happened? Massive stagnation insane amounts of poverty it was recently this has slowly started to change but the detrimental affects are still being felt to this day.

4 When 1 looks at it for the long run for India to be a 1st world super power it needs a lassie fair capitalist economy which firmly respects property rights and massively encourages migrations this is a fundamental towards a 1st worst world India.



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you have to take geoploitics into consideration.

regarding korea and jjapan you are absolutely correct, essentially the US occupation was holding them back, aftreer the second world war the US enacted a kind of corporate rape of the occupied countries eg all their corporations coca cola etc major manufacturing and heavy industrial corps were given huge access to japanese and korean natural resources and to their economy via contracts to make and sell products to its people they made japan to a degree dependent on US made goods and services via food, health products medecine etc it runs very very deep into the whole culture and daily life of the citizens.

This has occured in india also, and to a large degree from suprantional organisations like the IMF and World Bank, giving shit loans and enacting crazy tarrifs to protect US and western economies from low priced goods form india and the third world flooding the market, throttling economic and manufacturing and export success of the third world.

However this is where the third world is UBER LOW IQ
If someone is helping you (the US) while also fucking you and holding you under the water, but giving you just enough to survive, while when you look like thriving punching you in the gut.

YOU GET THE FUCK OUT OF DODGE.

If i was China, india, the south east asian countries and african continent, I would literally turn around to the west and say YOU KNOW WHAT FUCK RIGHT OFF WE ARE NOW ONE BIG ECONOMIC BLOCK AND WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE AND NATURAL RESOURCES THAN THE WEST NOW WE ARE GOING TO KNOCK YOUR BLOCK OFF.

This block would be scary economically and trading wise, huge internal trading market, huge internal consumer market, could literally exist completely outside of the west. Could sever all ties with the pathetically self serving IMF, world bank, world economic forums, and all trading cartels GATT and its modern equivalents, completely liberating the whole monetary and banking systems of these countries as they are not tied to indebtedness to the western banking system.

This would truly liberate them, they could literally start a whole new economic future for themselves, also maybe fuck up completely the west as they may be more reliant on these "poorer" countries than they are willing to admit or even know without being fully unplugged. This new block could literally stop trading completely with the west and set up a new trading block, excluding the west with tarriffs in the exact same way the west has been doing since the second world war. It would be truly funny to see how the west would react to this taste of their own hegemonic and hugely narcissistic medicine.
 
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It's not industrialized ? are you high sure small parts aren't but most of India certainly is above the agriculture age it's poorer than it could be but the ideal of change is always there and it is always possible. 1.5 billion only helps speed up the process.
Jfl, mass industrialisation is very different, it's a socially destructive policy that's deliberately undertaken either by the state or by capital intensive entities or by both in some cases to increase the share of manufacturing in an economy rapidly in a short period of time, the first case is in Britain, US, Europe and Japan, the latter is in the Soviet Union. It never happened in India, and in a democracy it's impossible cos you just can't do many things that's granted in authoritarian states plus the social churn would be devastating without a strong police state.
 
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Emba said:
Just wonder why abos that still shit in there drinking water (rivers) are poor bro.


Fuck of with curries being abos there mainly indengious blood mixed with eastern Iranan
 
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Fuck of with curries being abos there mainly indengious blood mixed with eastern Iranan
A curry here said it first

Abo means "indigenous" too dumby
 
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Jfl, mass industrialisation is very different, it's a socially destructive policy that's deliberately undertaken either by the state or by capital intensive entities or by both in some cases to increase the share of manufacturing in an economy rapidly in a short period of time, the first case is in Britain, US, Europe and Japan, the latter is in the Soviet Union.

The differences between this system thugh and it's ultimate effiency is how well are the good that are created allocated out ? how much competition is there. How many people are working all that kinda stuff the more people you have the faster the industrialization cycle
 
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1 Government intervention to incentivize trade never has worked any where near as effiencetly as leaving it to the private sector interests race only are ever possible to be high because of subsidises to bigger cooperations. Also what stagnates a country isn't low employment it's an currency with no value look at Weimar Germany the currency had 0 effect because the monetary value of the marks had nothing to back it up it wasn't scarce literally Keynesianism fucked up Germany.

2 Plato supported a form of Keynesianism or very similar to it NGL.

3 The British empire wasn't Capitalist it was cronyism it stole from poorer countries, strove stronger divided lines between the inhabitants. in short The British empire was a phenomenal failure.

4 You can get investment by private countries it doesn't take a fortune buy a ship


It's not industrialized ? are you high sure small parts aren't but most of India certainly is above the agriculture age it's poorer than it could be but the ideal of change is always there and it is always possible. 1.5 billion only helps speed up the process.
Of course it worked, you can literally look at China and see how it worked. Too big to fail is real, you can't let the bank system or strategic companies fail just because its the market's ''logic''.

Both stagnate a country's economy, I was just stating what non government leads to. What you think would happen to country's economy if the government didn't act during the pandemic? The damage would be far bigger for sure.

Certain private sectors don't have enough money to industrialize a country, that's why you see no industries in sub-saharan Africa. Also, the private sector think about its own interests, not about the people's one, hence why the government needs to prevent monopolies and externalities.

Cronyism is a form of corruption, not an economic system, they are not mutually excludent.

Private companies from other countries use poor countries to get cheap labour, not to develop the country, the well paid jobs remain in the company's country (so does the production).


You can read this article and see why subsidizes developed China, proving they are not harmful, but benefitial to a country
 
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Emba said:
A curry here said it first

Abo means "indigenous" too dumby

I'm not stupid I know what your talking about your talking about Abos from Australia very different ethnic group.
 
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The differences between this system thugh and it's ultimate effiency is how well are the good that are created allocated out ? how much competition is there. How many people are working all that kinda stuff the more people you have the faster the industrialization cycle
Stfu, literally every state deliberately either provides capital or directly takes part in industrialisation, it never happens on its own organically, never happened, never will.
 
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Of course it worked, you can literally look at China and see how it worked. Too big to fail is real, you can't let the bank system or strategic companies fail just because its the market's ''logic''.

Both stagnate a country's economy, I was just stating what non government leads to. What you think would happen to country's economy if the government didn't act during the pandemic? The damage would be far bigger for sure.

Certain private sectors don't have enough money to industrialize a country, that's why you see no industries in sub-saharan Africa. Also, the private sector think about its own interests, not about the people's one, hence why the government needs to prevent monopolies and externalities.

Cronyism is a form of corruption, not an economic system, they are not mutually excludent.

Private companies from other countries use poor countries to get cheap labour, not to develop the country, the well paid jobs remain in the company's country (so does the production).


You can read this article and see why subsidizes developed China, proving they are not harmful, but benefitial to a country

I'll have a read into it.
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Stfu, literally every state deliberately either provides capital or directly takes part in industrialisation, it never happens on its own organically.

That's not the states function caiptail comes from private investors the states function is to be a night watch men kinda state essentially it's only role is to be the police force and to upheld law and order private caiptail is the natural response when government is not active. The reason why a lot of the world previously didn't industrialize is simple wealth takes up a long time and the majority of economic states in the past have been some very mercantalist systems
 
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I'm not stupid I know what your talking about your talking about Abos from Australia very different ethnic group.
Who pissed (or shitted) in your pindar chana?
 
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I'll have a read into it.


That's not the states function caiptail comes from private investors the states function is to be a night watch men kinda state essentially it's only role is to be the police force and to upheld law and order private caiptail is the natural response when government is not active. The reason why a lot of the world previously didn't industrialize is simple wealth takes up a long time and the majority of economic states in the past have been some very mercantalist systems
Lmao, how do you think then South Korea and Japan were industrialised? How do you think the Soviet Union industrialised and transitioned into an industrial Superpower from an agrarian society? Private entities don't have the requisite capital and monopoly on violence to push for mass industrialisation, again mass industrialisation is a different phenomenon altogether, it literally means manufacturing suddenly makes up for a major portion of the gdp and not services and agriculture in a very short period of time, which is not the case wit India, it's services and agro based economy not a manufacturing one.
 
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Who pissed (or shitted) in your pindar chana?

No 1 if pointing out to a white mongoloid his facts are wrong is counted as being ''pissed off'' then I guess it would be you
 
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If i was China, india, the south east asian countries and african continent, I would literally turn around to the west and say YOU KNOW WHAT FUCK RIGHT OFF WE ARE NOW ONE BIG ECONOMIC BLOCK AND WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE AND NATURAL RESOURCES THAN THE WEST NOW WE ARE GOING TO KNOCK YOUR BLOCK OFF.

This block would be scary economically and trading wise, huge internal trading market, huge internal consumer market, could literally exist completely outside of the west. Could sever all ties with the pathetically self serving IMF, world bank, world economic forums, and all trading cartels GATT and its modern equivalents, completely liberating the whole monetary and banking systems of these countries as they are not tied to indebtedness to the western banking system.

This would truly liberate them, they could literally start a whole new economic future for themselves, also maybe fuck up completely the west as they may be more reliant on these "poorer" countries than they are willing to admit or even know without being fully unplugged. This new block could literally stop trading completely with the west and set up a new trading block, excluding the west with tarriffs in the exact same way the west has been doing since the second world war. It would be truly funny to see how the west would react to this taste of their own hegemonic and hugely narcissistic medicine.
Where would you get crude oil from?
 
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No 1 if pointing out to a white mongoloid his facts are wrong is counted as being ''pissed off'' then I guess it would be you
I think you should REDACTED the Russia Embassy
 
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Lmao, how do you think then South Korea and Japan were industrialised? How do you think the Soviet Union industrialised and transitioned into an industrial Superpower from an agrarian society? Private entities don't have the requisite capital and monopoly on violence to push for mass industrialisation, again mass industrialisation is a different phenomenon altogether, it literally means manufacturing suddenly makes up for a major portion of the gdp and not services and agriculture in a very short period of time, which is not the case wit India, it's services and agro based economy not a manufacturing one.
High IQ, private industry on its own can't mass industrialize. There is an Indian city called Guragon, which for a long time was very heavily dominated by corporations running most of the city's infastructrue. And as a result there is very extreme income inequality, shit sewage systems and many other problems. View: https://youtu.be/uD0bR7JXI6k


A decently strong government is needed for Mass industrialization and a very strong one for super fast speed.
 
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Indian remains poor because of their low IQ race. Swallow the racepill :blackpill:.
 
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ShowerTaker said:
Indian remains poor because of their low IQ race. Swallow the racepill :blackpill:.

Swallow the rope and reincarnation pill honestly the fact you leave so low IQ responses says more about you than Indian's
ReconElement said:
Lmao, how do you think then South Korea and Japan were industrialised? How do you think the Soviet Union industrialised and transitioned into an industrial Superpower from an agrarian society? Private entities don't have the requisite capital and monopoly on violence to push for mass industrialisation, again mass industrialisation is a different phenomenon altogether, it literally means manufacturing suddenly makes up for a major portion of the gdp and not services and agriculture in a very short period of time, which is not the case wit India, it's services and agro based economy not a manufacturing one.

South Korea and japan had a night watch man state, I never said the state shouldn't have an monopoly on power I'm saying the state shouldn't set stringent regulations meant to bar innovation and it shouldn't centrally plan 5 year plans and mass industrialization to the level i'm talking would happen faster due to automation.
 
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No matter how much India improves its economy, curry SMV will still keep falling. No economy for your genes
 
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lol @ economics = hard science, economics might as well be voodoo magic, how do you predict or control the actions of billions of people?

also lol @ the "theory" that printing money somehow creates jobs
 
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lol @ economics = hard science, economics might as well be voodoo magic, how do you predict or control the actions of billions of people?

also lol @ the "theory" that printing money somehow creates jobs
Cope debt based inflation Keynesian economics works mostly. It has backing.
 
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India is poor because they are corrupt and elect terrible corrupt politicians.
 
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ilieknothing said:
India is poor because they are corrupt and elect terrible corrupt politicians.
It also has too many niggas for the land to support. Had India have 1/3-1/4 the population they would be far better off :feelsree::feelsree::feelsree:.
 
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Transcended Trucel said:
It also has too many niggas for the land to support. Had India have 1/3-1/4 the population they would be far better off :feelsree::feelsree::feelsree:.
The large population is the only real edge that India has going for it anyways. They have a large GDP because they have a shitload of people. If they had like 1/3 the population they would be in a position like Pakistan or Nepal imo and they are in a way worse position
Transcended Trucel said:
It also has too many niggas for the land to support. Had India have 1/3-1/4 the population they would be far better off :feelsree::feelsree::feelsree:.
The large population is the only real edge that India has going for it anyways. They have a large GDP because they have a shitload of people. If they had like 1/3 the population they would be in a position like Pakistan or Nepal imo and they are in a way worse position
 
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ilieknothing said:
The large population is the only real edge that India has going for it anyways. They have a large GDP because they have a shitload of people. If they had like 1/3 the population they would be in a position like Pakistan or Nepal imo and they are in a way worse position

The large population is the only real edge that India has going for it anyways. They have a large GDP because they have a shitload of people. If they had like 1/3 the population they would be in a position like Pakistan or Nepal imo and they are in a way worse position
The large population is more of negative than a positive. The cities are too overfilled and too much pollution. I have been to the Indian slums, many of these poorfags keep having kids despite earning less than 300 ripped a day. They are legit turbo low IQ
 

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