I think face is overrated

[Soulflayer]

I've never seen so much copium on an internet space or real life until I found this place. How the fuck are there so many people who think face is everything, when the holy trinity (NT + frame + height) is what carries your dating and work-life successes, the idealisation of faces is more of a concept found in industries like modelling and entertainment. but even then it's not everything.

take someone I know in real life as an example, the person I'm referring to is 6'1/6'2, dark ethnic, has a good frame, athletic, comes from a rich family and is generally quite content in his life. He owns a 8 bedroom house in a large Western city (not his main house, it's an investment property), he goes on holidays to Europe and across America every year with his family. He's done well in his academics and has a well paying job, he's obviously made his parents proud and will eventually find a very attractive woman some way or another.

I left out one thing deliberately, I built up visualisation of the comfort of his life but forgot to mention his face is 3/10. I left that out because if I said that right away then you guys would be quick to accuse me of him having a shit life purely because of his ugly face (and race). But even after knowing that, users would be quick to assume his fate, how can someone tell me he's living a better life than a plain average person of any race simply because his face is sub-5? It makes no sense when you add all other variables up.

Fuck genetic determinist idiots, you can't convince me this guy's life is bad purely based on his genetics which were determined at birth (ugly face and shitskin)

 

[Asgard]

No. Height isn't that important. I'm 6'1".

 

[RelentlessAssault]

Face=height>frame>nt

 

[zerozerozero]

yeah ,as height goes up,, requirements for face go down

 

[ThisShitIsOva]

OP is right. There are men with ugly faces who slay ass regularly. Many factors such as being NT, height, frame, testosterone, and social status play a role.

 

[meta-cel(celcel)]

yeah but what if he wasn't rich though. i feel like he attracts money whores.

 

[meta-cel(celcel)]

OP is right. There are men with ugly faces who slay ass regularly. Many factors such as being NT, height, frame, testosterone, and social status play a role.

i've seen some non-NT who get foids that want to 'fix' them or find them cute.

 

[BoywithEarring]

face can come in crutch if you're slightly shorter (5'6-5'9)

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

I've never seen so much copium on an internet space or real life until I found this place. How the fuck are there so many people who think face is everything, when the holy trinity (NT + frame + height) is what carries your dating and work-life successes, the idealisation of faces is more of a concept found in industries like modelling and entertainment. but even then it's not everything.

take someone I know in real life as an example, the person I'm referring to is 6'1/6'2, dark ethnic, has a good frame, athletic, comes from a rich family and is generally quite content in his life. He owns a 8 bedroom house in a large Western city (not his main house, it's an investment property), he goes on holidays to Europe and across America every year with his family. He's done well in his academics and has a well paying job, he's obviously made his parents proud and will eventually find a very attractive woman some way or another.

I left out one thing deliberately, I built up visualisation of the comfort of his life but forgot to mention his face is 3/10. I left that out because if I said that right away then you guys would be quick to accuse me of him having a shit life purely because of his ugly face (and race). But even after knowing that, users would be quick to assume his fate, how can someone tell me he's living a better life than a plain average person of any race simply because his face is sub-5? It makes no sense when you add all other variables up.

Fuck genetic determinist idiots, you can't convince me this guy's life is bad purely based on his genetics which were determined at birth (ugly face and shitskin)

6'1/6'2, EG IN TOP 7% FOR HEIGHT

AND RICH AGAIN TOP 10%

HE HAS FUCKING EVERYTHING MAXXED EXCEPT FOR FACE

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHICH MAKES UP FOR FACE

YOUR STRAW MANNING THE WHOLE FORUM TO SAY EVERYONE THINKS ITS ALL ABOUT FACE, WHEN EVERYONE THINKS ITS LMS, THEN YOU USED AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO IS MAXXED OUT IN MONEY AND STATUS AND HEIGHT AND BODY AS SOMEHOW EVIDENCE.

WHAT ABOUT SOMEONE WHO HAS A BAD FACE AND POOR AND SHORT, THEN THE FACE BECOMES EXTREMELY DETRIMENTAL AND THAT SAME MAN WOULD NEVER GET A WOMAN, ERGO THE FACE IS IMPORTANT, YOU JEEEEEZ CHERRY PICKED A MINOR CELEBRITY AS AN EXAMPLE.

RETARD READ YOUR OWN POST FUCKING IDIOT

THE IQ OF THIS FORUM IS DROPPING BY THE DAY

ITS FUCKING PATHETIC

 

[Soulflayer]

6'1/6'2, EG IN TOP 7% FOR HEIGHT

AND RICH AGAIN TOP 10%

HE HAS FUCKING EVERYTHING MAXXED EXCEPT FOR FACE

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHICH MAKES UP FOR FACE

YOUR STRAW MANNING THE WHOLE FORUM TO SAY EVERYONE THINKS ITS ALL ABOUT FACE, WHEN EVERYONE THINKS ITS LMS, THEN YOU USED AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO IS MAXXED OUT IN MONEY AND STATUS AND HEIGHT AND BODY AS SOMEHOW EVIDENCE.

WHAT ABOUT SOMEONE WHO HAS A BAD FACE AND POOR AND SHORT, THEN THE FACE BECOMES EXTREMELY DETRIMENTAL AND THAT SAME MAN WOULD NEVER GET A WOMAN, ERGO THE FACE IS IMPORTANT, YOU JEEEEEZ CHERRY PICKED A MINOR CELEBRITY AS AN EXAMPLE.

RETARD READ YOUR OWN POST FUCKING IDIOT

THE IQ OF THIS FORUM IS DROPPING BY THE DAY

ITS FUCKING PATHETIC

he doesnt have many friends hes a nobody. just fucking lol at calling him a "celebrity"

 

[Antifem Lord]

It's not just face it's genetic luck in general even the family your born in is based on luck. But face plays a major part in overall attraction literally the first thing she will remember about you.

 

[suicidecase]

Face is everything.

There are short chads but there are no chads who don't have good face. But I'd say height is more evenly distributed than face. Meaning there are more tall guys than facially good looking guys around (genuinely gl). So I can see why some would think height matters more.

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

he doesnt have many friends hes a nobody. just fucking lol at calling him a "celebrity"

yeah cherry picking the one element where i was obviously using it as a metaphor for an outlier.

AGAIN SUB HUMAN IQ GARBAGE TIER SHIT

 

[mrlunatic]

I've never seen so much copium on an internet space or real life until I found this place. How the fuck are there so many people who think face is everything, when the holy trinity (NT + frame + height) is what carries your dating and work-life successes, the idealisation of faces is more of a concept found in industries like modelling and entertainment. but even then it's not everything.

take someone I know in real life as an example, the person I'm referring to is 6'1/6'2, dark ethnic, has a good frame, athletic, comes from a rich family and is generally quite content in his life. He owns a 8 bedroom house in a large Western city (not his main house, it's an investment property), he goes on holidays to Europe and across America every year with his family. He's done well in his academics and has a well paying job, he's obviously made his parents proud and will eventually find a very attractive woman some way or another.

I left out one thing deliberately, I built up visualisation of the comfort of his life but forgot to mention his face is 3/10. I left that out because if I said that right away then you guys would be quick to accuse me of him having a shit life purely because of his ugly face (and race). But even after knowing that, users would be quick to assume his fate, how can someone tell me he's living a better life than a plain average person of any race simply because his face is sub-5? It makes no sense when you add all other variables up.

Fuck genetic determinist idiots, you can't convince me this guy's life is bad purely based on his genetics which were determined at birth (ugly face and shitskin)

True. If you've height+rich you'll slay as good as a Chad. Combine that with NT and you'll be gigachad. Face matters only if it's best of the best, like Brad Pitt or something

 

[Spyro]

I agree tho. I'd f*k with a average face chick with a decent body. Throw some acne or skin rashes and she'd still look sexy asf to me.

Overly beautiful chicks will drain you with no remorse. You don't want no chick that gets constant attention from other males that'll steal her from you.

 

[Dramus17]

Note, OP is saying this because he is a high tier normie/chadlite faggot fakecel who has had girls approach him.

 

[Nikalas]

It's Height > Face > Frame > NT

Being NT doesn't matter if you are tall and handsome. Frame automatically cancels out face so it doesn't matter

 

[ADHD_cel]

Cope

 

[Soulflayer]

Being NT doesn't matter if you are tall and handsome.

yes it doesnt matter if you are a 6'3 8/10 face wide framed chad but how much percent of men fit that description? less than 0.5%, so for the other 99.5% or more it matters a lot

Cope

whats cope

 

[Nikalas]

yes it doesnt matter if you are a 6'3 8/10 face wide framed chad but how much percent of men fit that description?

That's my point, it isn't being NT that screws people up, it's being ugly. NT has nothing to do with it

 

[Soulflayer]

That's my point, it isn't being NT that screws people up, it's being ugly. NT has nothing to do with it

then how do you explain the average looking and above average looking incels on this site

 

[Nikalas]

then how do you explain the average looking and above average looking incels on this site

Fakecels that think they are incels because they got rejected by one girl, or hasn't even tried at all.

 

[Soulflayer]

Fakecels that think they are incels because they got rejected by one girl, or hasn't even tried at all.

keep coping by thinking you need to be ugly as fuck to be incel

 

[Nikalas]

keep coping by thinking you need to be ugly as fuck to be incel

Isn't that the entire fucking black pill ideology? So you are saying a 5'11 male with 6/10 face won't ever find a gf because he is NT?

 

[Soulflayer]

Isn't that the entire fucking black pill ideology? So you are saying a 5'11 male with 6/10 face won't ever find a gf because he is NT?

if he is legit non-NT (seriously fucked in the head, not just muh shy) then he wont get anything

 

[decembrist_kirillov]

Face=height>frame>nt

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

Note, OP is saying this because he is a high tier normie/chadlite faggot fakecel who has had girls approach him.

his responses to me confirm

douchebag detected
ELIMINATE

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

That's my point, it isn't being NT that screws people up, it's being ugly. NT has nothing to do with it

is the right answer

 

[Izayacel]

I agree tho. I'd f*k with a average face chick with a decent body. Throw some acne or skin rashes and she'd still look sexy asf to me.

Overly beautiful chicks will drain you with no remorse. You don't want no chick that gets constant attention from other males that'll steal her from you.

 

[Elliot Rodger]

Face is everything.

There are short chads but there are no chads who don't have good face. But I'd say height is more evenly distributed than face. Meaning there are more tall guys than facially good looking guys around (genuinely gl). So I can see why some would think height matters more.

If you’re a manlet you’re automatically not a Chad

 

[suicidecase]

If you’re a manlet you’re automatically not a Chad

Tom Cruise (5'7), James Deen (5'7), Zac Efron (5'8) etc. Now name a Chad without a good face.

Height becomes more important as you get older (because your face decays).

 

[SlayerSlayer]

he's obviously made his parents proud and will eventually find a very attractive woman some way or another.

IF HE DID NOT HAVE TEEN SEX AS A TEEN I LAUGH AT HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS

 

[Elliot Rodger]

Tom Cruise (5'7), James Deen (5'7), Zac Efron (5'8) etc. Now name a Chad without a good face.

Height becomes more important as you get older (because your face decays).

5’8 is way different from 5’5

 

[suicidecase]

5’8 is way different from 5’5

I'd say 5'7 is the cutoff. But there are genuinely manlet pretty boys. There was an incel who was tiny but had a prettyboy face and all the girls loved him. You can get away with that when you're young. I think he became a mod on here kek.

 

[Elliot Rodger]

I'd say 5'7 is the cutoff. But there are genuinely manlet pretty boys. There was an incel who was tiny but had a prettyboy face and all the girls loved him. You can get away with that when you're young. I think he became a mod on here kek.

I know who you’re talking about

 

[lifelongkhhv]

I've never seen so much copium on an internet space or real life until I found this place. How the fuck are there so many people who think face is everything, when the holy trinity (NT + frame + height) is what carries your dating and work-life successes, the idealisation of faces is more of a concept found in industries like modelling and entertainment. but even then it's not everything.

take someone I know in real life as an example, the person I'm referring to is 6'1/6'2, dark ethnic, has a good frame, athletic, comes from a rich family and is generally quite content in his life. He owns a 8 bedroom house in a large Western city (not his main house, it's an investment property), he goes on holidays to Europe and across America every year with his family. He's done well in his academics and has a well paying job, he's obviously made his parents proud and will eventually find a very attractive woman some way or another.

I left out one thing deliberately, I built up visualisation of the comfort of his life but forgot to mention his face is 3/10. I left that out because if I said that right away then you guys would be quick to accuse me of him having a shit life purely because of his ugly face (and race). But even after knowing that, users would be quick to assume his fate, how can someone tell me he's living a better life than a plain average person of any race simply because his face is sub-5? It makes no sense when you add all other variables up.

Fuck genetic determinist idiots, you can't convince me this guy's life is bad purely based on his genetics which were determined at birth (ugly face and shitskin)

Face > all the rest combined