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Do you think it’s subjective or objective and why?
Define uglinessugliness is objective.
Assymetry, bad bones, bad hair texture, etc... lots of caracteristicsDefine ugliness
You can be symmetrical and ugly tho right?there is science behind beauty, symmetry is key
It's obviously objective. Most people will agree on what is generally attractive and generally ugly. Sure there may be some variation in what people think is the MOST attractive but they still agree on what is generally attractive and what isn't. If it was totally subjective then there would be people attracted to me and I would not be on this site.
Yes.You can be symmetrical and ugly tho right?
symmetry does a lot, but there might be some cases where it is not enoughYou can be symmetrical and ugly tho right?
people prefer different types of hair texture, and what are bad bones?Assymetry, bad bones, bad hair texture, etc... lots of caracteristics
ugliness is objective.
YeYou can be symmetrical and ugly tho right?
There is no quality of object to be "beauty" by itself. It is subjective by itself, but not for itself (genetic coding)It's obviously objective. Most people will agree on what is generally attractive and generally ugly. Sure there may be some variation in what people think is the MOST attractive but they still agree on what is generally attractive and what isn't. If it was totally subjective then there would be people attracted to me and I would not be on this site.
Slavic extremely straight thin hair.people prefer different types of hair texture, and what are bad bones?
Is Micheal cera a Chad? Because I’ve heard that there’s women attracted to himWhen people say attractiveness is subjective they mean that whatever variant of chad a foid prefers can vary
You cannot measure beauty without perception.beauty is objective
it is a physical trait of a person. if it was subjective you would just make it up in your head, and it wouldn't be physical
ltn with celebrity haloIs Micheal cera a Chad? Because I’ve heard that there’s women attracted to him
you can't measure much without perceptionYou cannot measure beauty without perception.
A celeb or rock singer doesn't need to be particularly attractive to have groupiesIs Micheal cera a Chad? Because I’ve heard that there’s women attracted to him
Therefore, there is no objective reality to beauty.you can't measure much without perception
then nothing would have objective reality jflTherefore, there is no objective reality to beauty.
Everything. Proportionaly would exist without perception, gravity and all the objective things.then nothing would have objective reality jfl
irl even a question like 'is humbert humbert a character in nabokov's book lolita' has an objectively correct answer, and that can't be measured without um senses, literacy, basic familiarity with a novel, and so on
Everything. Proportionaly would exist without perception, gravity and all the objective things.
Reality does not start from human beings, but we are a part of it. So beauty, does not exist outside of us and cannot be measured outside us beause it is coded in our brains, and therefeore, is dependant the subject. The same that dogs have their instincts and we ours.
so everything is subjective? idk but that is objectively not clear english, even tho language would not exist sans perceptionEverything. Proportionaly would exist without perception, gravity and all the objective things.
and humans have objective traits. you can get stung by a stinging nettle, you can't get stung by a pixel. that's bc of traits that are at base objective, and the 'subjective' element is only a resultReality does not start from human beings, but we are a part of it.
so everything is subjective? idk but that is objectively not clear english, even tho language would not exist sans perception
and humans have objective traits. you can get stung by a stinging nettle, you can't get stung by a pixel. that's bc of traits that are at base objective, and the 'subjective' element is only a result
I say again, brocel. In this case, beauty has no nature beyond our perception. We are genetically programmed to find certain things beautiful and others ugly; but that is our programming, and not reality. We say that beauty is subjective because it starts from the perception of the object, not that beauty exists outside the being that perceives. Therefore, beauty cannot be an object, because it is not a quality in itself of any object. In the same way, we call a stone "Stone" but the stone does not cease to exist if it is not named.
In a human being you can study proportionalities and geometric properties, and what matches in correlation for what is valued and what is not, we conclude "beauty", but outside of the human, beauty is not measurable, does not exist.
neither does language jflI say again, brocel. In this case, beauty has no nature beyond our perception.
Ok then go and fuck an ugly landwhale prostitute and imagine she is a 10/10 gigastacynot that beauty exists outside the being that perceives. Therefore, beauty cannot be an object, because it is not a quality in itself of any object.
if we don't have the word stone then it wouldn't make sense to talk abt a 'stone'. and this word only exists bc of perceptionIn the same way, we call a stone "Stone" but the stone does not cease to exist if it is not named.
ok and those r objective traitsproportionalities and geometric properties
ugliness is objective.
neither does language jfl
u can't say that parts of human existence aren't objective just bc they aren't stones. that's reductive scientism
language, knowledge and beauty are all things which can be described objectively
Ok then go and fuck an ugly landwhale prostitute and imagine she is a 10/10 gigastacy
it will b the same thing if beauty is 'subjective'
since beauty is primarily subjective and only exists in ur head, and requires nothing objective to stimulate it, that should b ez right?
if we don't have the word stone then it wouldn't make sense to talk abt a 'stone'. and this word only exists bc of perception
Evidently. The point is not that we can say or not say anything about something, but whether or not something exists independently of our existence. Solipsism is simply the denial of reality.we simply couldn't say anything abt it.
This would not demonstrate that beauty is objective, but rather how we process information. That is why we say that there is no beauty outside of perception because there is nothing that is "beautiful" outside of human beings perceiving such things as such, which, as I repeat, is still subjective.when ppl talk abt beauty they r obviously talking abt something outside them, that is y we say that sth is beautiful and not that we r beautiful. and the beauty does not exist w/o a beautiful thing, otherwise ppl could solve inceldom by imagining that a fleshlight or gloryhole is a stacy
We say that something is beautiful because we are genetically programmed to find neurochemical stimulation in certain elements, not that an object is beautiful in itself. You perceive the object, you do not create its reality. Beauty is not a quality of an object itself independently of you,.if beauty was a trait of the observer then we would say they r beautiful, not the object
Also a snake can be proportional, or a centipede, or even helicobacter pylori, But those qualities do not make something beautiful in itself, But we are genetically programmed to respond neurochemically to certain stimuli.ok and those r objective traits
The fact that you hit a person next to a train has a probability component that will cause the person you hit to be hit by the train or not. Movement and forces are exerted by physical elements that are independent of you, but have you as the material element that carries the action; What is dangerous is the survival instinct or the instinct of preservation, but there is no danger if there is no perception.saying beauty is subjective is like saying that pushing a person in front of a moving train is only subjectively dangerous, or telling a starving person 2 eat food in their head. it is a moving train it will do that. ITcels always say this kind of thing, and feminists claim that landwhales are beautiful 2. but they r objectively wrong, not subjectively wrong which means nothing
statements abt language can be objectively correct or incorrect, so it is objective like beautyLanguage, knowledge and beauty are associations that our brain makes with material reality, not material reality itself, therefore, it cannot be objective (of object, inherent quality).
ok if u think an ugly fat whore can become a 10/10 gigastacy bc of subjectivity, then I will just let u believe thatI have no problem doing it, but you pay. I'm short on money this month.
who cares if they r honest, u r saying they r not objectively wrong.ITcucks can say that a landwhale is beautiful and they would be lying
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