I question the concept of the ‘washed up 30 year old loser’

[Pikacel]

I think this 30 yo washed up phenomenon is something foids experience more than men.

‘As you get older opportunities to socialise and meet people will dwindle’ assumes socialising is a net positive. Socialising SUCKS ASS for a lot of us. Being a loner is better than having to constantly deal with BS.

IMO, being young sucks way more as an incel. You’re constantly mogged by your peers crossing milestones whille you stagnate. As you’re older the social stigma and pressures to succeed are gone allowing you to accept being a loser.

 

[Pancakecel]

That phrase is just the establishment trying to shame unwanted outcast men, into becoming cogs in the kike machine. Wage slaving basically.

 

[slavcel11]

Nonsense. Being young is superior on all accounts.

 

[Pikacel]

That phrase is just the establishment trying to shame unwanted outcast men, into becoming cogs in the kike machine. Wage slaving basically.

That’s the type of social manipulation and shaming we’re trying to avoid ironically

 

[Pikacel]

Nonsense. Being young is superior on all accounts.

Why

 

[Todd Thundercock]

The social stigma only gets worse. Once you reach your upper 20s and you're socially deficient in any way, you're seen as defective and potentially dangerous. This is why most normalfag men will sacrifice everything to get in relationships and simp culture thrives.

Thankfully, I'm an autistic neurodivergent pile of shit that's never cared about socializing, but I'm not most people. Probably the only reason I'm still alive.

 

[Pikacel]

The social stigma only gets worse. Once you reach your upper 20s and you're socially deficient in any way, you're seen as defective and potentially dangerous. This is why most normalfag men will sacrifice everything to get in relationships and simp culture thrives.

Thankfully, I'm an autistic neurodivergent pile of shit that's never cared about socializing, but I'm not most people. Probably the only reason I'm still alive.

Who’s going to shame you, if you have no social circle

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

IMO, being young sucks way more as an incel.

When you signed up you said you were 18, so you only have experience being young.

Those of us who are older have experience with both being young and old. And most of us will tell you that you are dead wrong. Being older sucks more overall.

As you’re older the social stigma and pressures to succeed are gone allowing you to accept being a loser.

This is one of those times where I wished we had a word in the english language for "perfectly wrong" as in wrong to the point where you couldn't have been more wrong even if you tried, like scoring a 0 on a multiple choice test.

The older you get more MORE stigma there is and expectations are even HIGHER. A 18 year old is considered to be doing good if he lives on his own (even in an apartment with roommates) drives a car (any model) and has a job (even if it's minimum wage). I'm middle aged and at my age a man is expected to be married, own a house in a middle class neighborhood, and make close to 6 figures....and that's considered the "bare minimum".

Society is far more harsh on older men in every possible way. An 18 year old is actually given some leniency, but a single never married middle aged loser is the pinnacle of "creepy" to society.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Who’s going to shame you, if you have no social circle

You see it everywhere you go as a lonely older man. You're looked down on, especially from women. Family brushes you aside and eventually you're gone from their life until they need to use you.

 

[Leon98]

Nonsense. Being young is superior on all accounts.

Just be young theory

 

[Pikacel]

When you signed up you said you were 18, so you only have experience being young.

Those of us who are older have experience with both being young and old. And most of us will tell you that you are dead wrong. Being older sucks more overall.


This is one of those times where I wished we had a word in the english language for "perfectly wrong" as in wrong to the point where you couldn't have been more wrong even if you tried, like scoring a 0 on a multiple choice test.

The older you get more MORE stigma there is and expectations are even HIGHER. A 18 year old is considered to be doing good if he lives on his own (even in an apartment with roommates) drives a car (any model) and has a job (even if it's minimum wage). I'm middle aged and at my age a man is expected to be married, own a house in a middle class neighborhood, and make close to 6 figures....and that's considered the "bare minimum".

Society is far more harsh on older men in every possible way. An 18 year old is actually given some leniency, but a single never married middle aged loser is the pinnacle of "creepy" to society.

If you’re still a loser at a young age you won’t get positive attention isn’t it better for people to leave you alone

And ‘married with a wife’ who gives people the right to judge a grown adult on how he lives

You see it everywhere you go as a lonely older man. You're looked down on, especially from women. Family brushes you aside and eventually you're gone from their life until they need to use you.

Women’s opinions are worthless and they look down on youngcels.

Is better to be brushed aside than have family comment on everything you try to do