I love both communism and nazism, but if i had to choose...

[NT_huntER]

I think both the October revolution was a good thing and Hitler coming to power was a good thing too.

It was stupid that Germany attacked USSR, they could become allies.

But i still wish that Germany won WW2, because if i had to choose between communism and nazism, i would choose nazism, because nazism is basically an instruction on how to build communism - to create a new human being.

 

[Horatio1]

Communism was a bad thing since Stalin was a more competent leader than Hitler: rapidly industrializing the USSR and annihilating Nazi Germany before they had sufficient time to shift to fully mobilize their economy for total war. After destroying one of best alternatives to democracy, the Communists collapsed under the weight of a lethargic economy unsuited for innovations and left Liberalism as the only viable ideology with universal appeal in the world

If Communism never existed, liberal democracy would have ended for good in Europe and we would not have as much degeneracy

 

[Darth Weebrious]

 

[La Grande Infamie]

The only benefit of Communism is that the hammer and sickle looks kinda neat.

National Socialism was and still is the perfect political system. It was essentially a Volkish Monarchy in all but name (likely because Hitler himself was no fan of monarchies), led by a governmental unity of philosopher kings. Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbals, Rudolf Hess, Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Goring, Julius Streicher, and others. The only reason Nazi Germany didn't become literally fucking invincible after World War Two was because it was razed to the ground by Capitalist and Communist Jews who invented the death cult of the holocaust in order to forever keep whites ashamed of their race.

 

[Darth Weebrious]

 

[Darth Weebrious]

 

[Horatio1]

The only benefit of Communism is that the hammer and sickle looks kinda neat.

National Socialism was and still is the perfect political system. It was essentially a Volkish Monarchy in all but name (likely because Hitler himself was no fan of monarchies), led by a governmental unity of philosopher kings. Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbals, Rudolf Hess, Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Goring, Julius Streicher, and others. The only reason Nazi Germany didn't become literally fucking invincible after World War Two was because it was raised to the ground by Capitalist and Communist Jews who invented the death cult of the holocaust in order to forever keep whites ashamed of their race.

 

[Darth Weebrious]

"Die germanische Rasse ist jung, kräftig, voller Tugenden. Den nordischen Völkern gehört die Zukunft"

The Germanic race is young, strong, and full of virtues. The future belongs to the Nordic peoples.

 

[NT_huntER]

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"Die germanische Rasse ist jung, kräftig, voller Tugenden. Den nordischen Völkern gehört die Zukunft"

The Germanic race is young, strong, and full of virtues. The future belongs to the Nordic peoples.

Gigabased.

 

[AsakuraHao]

communism doesn't work

 

[NT_huntER]

communism doesn't work

Communisn is the system that existed in Germanic tribes during prehistoric times.

 

[earming]

Communisn is the system that existed in Germanic tribes during prehistoric times.

that's not true it's not like they had a state that enforced vague notions of equality on them
their political system was comprised of councils though

 

[NT_huntER]

that's not true it's not like they had a state that enforced vague notions of equality on them
their political system was comprised of councils though

You dont know what communism is. Communism is STATELESS society without private property and without families and hierarchy.

 

[earming]

Communism was a bad thing since Stalin was a more competent leader than Hitler: rapidly industrializing the USSR and annihilating Nazi Germany before they had sufficient time to shift to fully mobilize their economy for total war. After destroying one of best alternatives to democracy, the Communists collapsed under the weight of a lethargic economy unsuited for innovations and left Liberalism as the only viable ideology with universal appeal in the world

this is true but it's not like Stalin could've done anything else other than repel Barbarossa and go to war with Germany
communism is cucked though

 

[NT_huntER]

that's not true it's not like they had a state that enforced vague notions of equality on them
their political system was comprised of councils though

Also why would they force equality if they all were equal to begin with considering that they all were of the same race?

 

[earming]

You dont know what communism is. Communism is STATELESS society without private property and without families and hierarchy.

the communist societies that we've seen have been ultra-authoritarian and hierarchical

 

[NT_huntER]

the communist societies that we've seen have been ultra-authoritarian and hierarchical

Because they were ruled by non-Aryans.

 

[earming]

Also why would they force equality if they all were equal to begin with considering that they all were of the same race?

rassenverräter
one-race socialism isn't bad however I agree with you

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

I think both the October revolution was a good thing and Hitler coming to power was a good thing too.

It was stupid that Germany attacked USSR, they could become allies.

But i still wish that Germany won WW2, because if i had to choose between communism and nazism, i would choose nazism, because nazism is basically an instruction on how to build communism - to create a new human being.

What you are describing is similar to Strasserism or the left wing of the NSDAP.

 

[NiggerSlayer]

It was stupid that Germany attacked USSR, they could become allies

Barbarossa was a pre-emptive strike - the soviets had the largest military buildup in world history right on the german border and the soviet invasion of Germany was imminent. Hitler knew his only chance at winning the war against the soviets was if he struck first

 

[bonedigger06]

The Third Reich had a chance to spread National Socialism ideas across the Northern European region and could be a neighbour to a close door Communist Nation of Russia along with respective allies
Maybe having Buffer states for separating two powers
And US would be a isolated nation having Regional power over North America in a alternative sense
It's interesting to see how things happened differently if the Reich and USSR would be functional strategic allies for the War.

 

[bonedigger06]

Liberal Democracy would not exist in Europe, most colonies in Africa and Asia under Military Authoritarian rule of Japanese Empire.

 

[NT_huntER]

Barbarossa was a pre-emptive strike - the soviets had the largest military buildup in world history right on the german border and the soviet invasion of Germany was imminent. Hitler knew his only chance at winning the war against the soviets was if he struck first

Maybe. We will never know it.

 

[Freixel]

I like them both

But i dislike nordicism, i'am a med, so i choose National Socialism without Nordicism, or a "Med NS"

I dislike social darwinism sponsored by the state. I also don't like Spartan like type of policies

NS was corporativist anyway, they did not remove the rich German magnates from power

I think there was an internal dispute in the early NS about this, about whether to carry out class struggle or not (Strasser). Hitler preferred to ally himself with the German industrial capitalists rather than attack them.

 

[Freixel]

You dont know what communism is. Communism is STATELESS society without private property and without families and hierarchy.

Also this

those who criticize communism never read anything by communist authors

They don't understand the ideology they are criticizing.

 

[faded]

I think both the October revolution was a good thing and Hitler coming to power was a good thing too.

It was stupid that Germany attacked USSR, they could become allies.

But i still wish that Germany won WW2, because if i had to choose between communism and nazism, i would choose nazism, because nazism is basically an instruction on how to build communism - to create a new human being.

Ok repirted

 

[forwhombell]

the communist societies that we've seen have been ultra-authoritarian and hierarchical

Communists believe that societies advance in phases. First is primitive communism, then feudalism, then capitalism, then an overthrow of capitalism which ushers in socialism/dictatorship of the proletariate, and then that eventually leads to communism.

All the current communist countries are at the socialist stage and wish to achieve communism eventually. None have claimed to have actually achieved final communism, because it's not supposed to be instant. It's a process that takes hundreds of years.

 

[earming]

Communists believe that societies advance in phases. First is primitive communism, then feudalism, then capitalism, then an overthrow of capitalism which ushers in socialism/dictatorship of the proletariate, and then that eventually leads to communism.

All the current communist countries are at the socialist stage and wish to achieve communism eventually. None have claimed to have actually achieved final communism, because it's not supposed to be instant. It's a process that takes hundreds of years.

yes but that's flawed teleological aristotlian thinking

 

[Freixel]

Communists believe that societies advance in phases. First is primitive communism, then feudalism, then capitalism, then an overthrow of capitalism which ushers in socialism/dictatorship of the proletariate, and then that eventually leads to communism.

All the current communist countries are at the socialist stage and wish to achieve communism eventually. None have claimed to have actually achieved final communism, because it's not supposed to be instant. It's a process that takes hundreds of years.

That is pure communist theory.

History goes in cycles, (Perennealism?)

 

[over_department]

Fascism is the ideal form of government

 

[sexualeconomist]

Fascism is the ideal form of government

ussr literally became a fascist state after lenin died stalin killed thousand of jews and the old revolutionaries
banned aboration banned women
banned gays

 

[GeorgeSears]

I think both the October revolution was a good thing and Hitler coming to power was a good thing too.

It was stupid that Germany attacked USSR, they could become allies.

But i still wish that Germany won WW2, because if i had to choose between communism and nazism, i would choose nazism, because nazism is basically an instruction on how to build communism - to create a new human being.

As far as I know the war with Russia was inevitable. Stalin already had plans to attack Germany.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

As far as I know the war with Russia was inevitable. Stalin already had plans to attack Germany.

Yes, Stalin wanted to return all the former lands of the Russian Empire, so he attacked Poland and Finland. He also thought that while the Germans, British and French would bleed in trench warfare mode, as before in the First World War, the USSR would have time to make tanks, planes, artillery in order to be ready to finish off Europe, which had bled to death, in order to build puppet communist regimes there.

 

[Freixel]

ussr literally became a fascist state after lenin died stalin killed thousand of jews and the old revolutionaries
banned aboration banned women
banned gays

The USSR was not corporatist, the entire economy was managed by the State, there was no bourgeoisie, so it was not fascist.

 

[Freixel]

Fascism is the ideal form of government

It depends on the country in which it is applied, you need to be a mono-ethnic country for it to work, otherwise it is doomed to failure