Anybody who seriously believes that our problems "going mainstream" and being seen as "good people", is going to ever make a difference in furthering our goals, is seriously one blue pilled fucking idiot.
Society will never care about men to that extent, we are the worker drones, we are the disposable resource, it will never go against its nature to prioritize the lives of women and children over men, and in a world where incels are happy, women will be unhappy, because women are hypergamous and selfish, so guess who society is going to pick, guess who society is going to ask to "take one for the team", it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out
In patriarchal times, men were at their happiest, because we could impose forced mongomy, and create a meritocratic system of romantic pursuits, women are at their happiest in these times, because it is a more tournament styled system, where they are judge, jury and executioner, and they decide who gets laid, and who gets to breed, and they get to be as selective as they want, with little to no monogamous restrictions, the proclivities and desires of both sexes are DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED SO ONLY ONE SIDE CAN ACTUALLY GET WHAT THEY WANT
There are many blue pilled idiots that have deluded themselves into thinking that "if only we weren't viewed in X way, society would magically make women date within their league", nope, that's a violation of human rights you fucking retard, society isn't going to force women to restrict their choices, just so that a minority of the male population won't feel like killing themselves, all of us incels are COLLATERAL DAMAGE
You idiots prove how illogical you are when you make these arguments, its as if you haven't even sat for a few minutes to consider what it is you are really saying, incels are undesirable men as far as women are concerned, in order for society to help us, they would have to get women to start dating and fucking undesirable men, which women won't do of their own free will, so what is your proposal?, WE ARE AT AN IMPASSE