I have nothing but my job. It means nothing when I have nobody to share it with.

[poyo]

I want to start this by saying I am a 4'11 Euro white man. I grew up short and ugly due to a facial deformity

I was stupid. I listened to my parents, who told me as long as I worked hard and stayed genuine, I would find friends and a girlfriend who would treat me well. This is a lie.

I got the grades, I went to a good university, but I have never once had a genuine friend or a girlfriend, let alone a girl who has been interested in me. I now have a good job, but honestly, if you're not a chad, the whole world looks down on you regardless of what you have. There is no winning whatsoever. The colleagues I have at work constantly punch down at me even if I have done nothing wrong, because I am a reject before anything else.

For people who tell you that you should focus on yourself and forget about women, they do not understand what it means to be alone. There is no amount of material items and career success that makes you forget you missed out on a normal, social childhood. It makes things easier, but I remember that I have no reason to be on this earth. There is nobody that wants to be around me for who I am, other than my mother.

I wish I had siblings, I like to think I would have had gotten along with brothers, or even a sister.

 

[Vendetta]

brutal

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Escort max

 

[poyo]

Escort max

to what end? i can buy an escort, but she will go home at the end of the day, probably to her boyfriend.

it's a sex thing for sure, but i know if i buy sex, i'll have a memory to keep missing, and i'll live with the fact that most don't have to pay for sex. that would drive me to ropemaxxing, maybe im a pussy

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

but she will go home at the end of the day

Precisely. You get the sex and the temporary illusion of love. He gets the drama, tantrum and period bs. Eventually kids, but that's not even a thing now.

i'll have a memory to keep missing

You can see the same one several time tbh

At some point you may even get a discount jfl

The only thing I find difficult with this thing is if you're high inhib like me. Then yeah, it's over.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

most don't have to pay

It depends on the foids tbh ...

Low smv foids are cheap, but still, their bf has to pay for most bills and activities.

High smv are mostly gold diggers, so even the publicly known bf is getting scammed by her. Again, you only get to see her fun side, which is probably more than the cuck who would give her a ring once she wants to "settle down".

 

[Norville Wood]

brutal

I've been in a hard situation like that.

I get jobs, but can't face going home alone.

Quit

 

[scihub]

For people who tell you that you should focus on yourself and forget about women, they do not understand what it means to be alone. There is no amount of material items and career success that makes you forget you missed out on a normal, social childhood. It makes things easier, but I remember that I have no reason to be on this earth. There is nobody that wants to be around me for who I am, other than my mother.

I wish I had siblings, I like to think I would have had gotten along with brothers, or even a sister.

Holy shit, I think you're the european version of me.
Only child myself, and I've done quite well for myself career wise too. But I was ALONE my entire childhood. Like, parents both worked long and weird hours, and we lived out in a rural area. It took 30 minute drive to get to town and see other people. I didn't have babysitters, because they said no one would ever come out here and I'd be fine alone.

Thank the LORD for the internet. If we hadn't got a computer then I can't imagine what might have become of me.

 

[poyo]

I've been in a hard situation like that.

I get jobs, but can't face going home alone.

Quit

sorry brother it really is the worst. still working?

imo jobs mean nothing when there's nothing waiting for you at home. i wish i had something that relied on me, a cat or dog wouldn't help matters either, because it's not voluntary

 

[decafincel]

I got the grades, I went to a good university, but I have never once had a genuine friend or a girlfriend, let alone a girl who has been interested in me.

For people who tell you that you should focus on yourself and forget about women, they do not understand what it means to be alone. There is no amount of material items and career success that makes you forget you missed out on a normal, social childhood. It makes things easier, but I remember that I have no reason to be on this earth. There is nobody that wants to be around me for who I am, other than my mother.

Absolutely brutal story, yet one that is so relatable to many people here.

 

[poyo]

Holy shit, I think you're the european version of me.
Only child myself, and I've done quite well for myself career wise too. But I was ALONE my entire childhood. Like, parents both worked long and weird hours, and we lived out in a rural area. It took 30 minute drive to get to town and see other people. I didn't have babysitters, because they said no one would ever come out here and I'd be fine alone.

Thank the LORD for the internet. If we hadn't got a computer then I can't imagine what might have become of me.

loneliness really does rot the brain in a way i can't describe, where are you from if you don't mind saying? i rarely meet others like me here

oh i think about that a lot. i'm autistic as fuck right now, but without the internet, i would have been braindead. my social skills are probably majorly stunted from childhood

 

[poyo]

Absolutely brutal story, yet one that is so relatable to many people here.

and that's the worst part. the narrative that incels are all comically evil men irritates me to no end. most of us did nothing wrong & are suffering for it - all i've wanted was to be normal, but my looks denied that. that's all there is.

 

[scihub]

loneliness really does rot the brain in a way i can't describe, where are you from if you don't mind saying? i rarely meet others like me here

oh i think about that a lot. i'm autistic as fuck right now, but without the internet, i would have been braindead. my social skills are probably majorly stunted from childhood

Missouri, right in the middle of the USA. I'm actually really grateful for the internet, because I don't really think there would have been any role in society that I could fill if it didn't exist.

and that's the worst part. the narrative that incels are all comically evil men irritates me to no end. most of us did nothing wrong & are suffering for it - all i've wanted was to be normal, but my looks denied that. that's all there is.

This is why I decided to join incels.is. I watched some youtube videos talking about incel forums and deriding them as places where 16 year olds congregate to bemoan their lot in life and say wickedly evil and terrible things about females and other racial and ethnic groups that aren't their own.
But I'm quite glad and vindicated to see that there are others like me; good honest hardworking men that have been thoroughly denied a fulfilling life through no fault of their own, and are now trying to come to grips with what that means for their future.

 

[poyo]

Missouri, right in the middle of the USA. I'm actually really grateful for the internet, because I don't really think there would have been any role in society that I could fill if it didn't exist.



This is why I decided to join incels.is. I watched some youtube videos talking about incel forums and deriding them as places where 16 year olds congregate to bemoan their lot in life and say wickedly evil and terrible things about females and other racial and ethnic groups that aren't their own.
But I'm quite glad and vindicated to see that there are others like me; good honest hardworking men that have been thoroughly denied a fulfilling life through no fault of their own, and are now trying to come to grips with what that means for their future.

same here, i appreciate your message brother - i haven't met many like me

there's definitely a significant amount of men that have a lot of hatred (i don't blame them for this) but it's true what you're saying, you don't need hatred and disdain in your heart to become an incel. i'm sure over time it might develop, but i don't think most of us started out that way.

and i'm the same. it wasn't for the internet, i wouldn't have a job. it's a shame to be a wagecuck, but at least i can work well towards something. i'm pretty weak because of my frame, and i don't have a lot of social skills, so i'm greatful for my job. just a shame i can't start a family.

i hope you manage to stay good and well, loneliness is no joke and can poison your sense of self.

 

[cvh1991]

to what end? i can buy an escort, but she will go home at the end of the day, probably to her boyfriend.

it's a sex thing for sure, but i know if i buy sex, i'll have a memory to keep missing, and i'll live with the fact that most don't have to pay for sex. that would drive me to ropemaxxing, maybe im a pussy

First off I’m sorry about your situation. Being a low status ugly man is really a cruel fate. Just living and pushing on each day is hard and painful.

My opinion on hookers is, it’s worth doing once or twice so you’re not a virgin and at least know what sex is like. After that it’s probably not worth it though given the cost and risks associated with it.

I’d only use hookers if:
1) The price is reasonable
2) There’s some system in place to mitigate disease — this is a tough one because how are you gonna get their medical records and using a condom sucks and basically defeats the whole point.
3) They’re actually attractive — why bother paying for sex just to fuck someone average looking?
4) They need to be a decent enough actor such that their disgust at fucking an ugly man is not apparent.
5) Not illegal where you live — it is where I live and I’m not going to jail and getting fired over banging a hooker

When you put all these requirements together honestly it may not even really be worth it frankly. But assuming the state align it can be, that’s sort of my view.

I do agree though that the hooker obviously doesn’t love you, isn’t attracted to you, has no desire to be with you, and so on and that does ruin it if you’re not able to suspend your disbelief. It’s also a lot of money for something temporary so I understand resistance to it.

 

[ItsJoeverNigga]

I can't even find a job with this shit economy

 

[Namtriz912]

I can't even find a job with this shit economy

me too people I know used to laugh about other 3rd world nations with high unemployment rates now they've changed their tune.

 

[Julaybib]

brutal