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They're just as discriminating and excluding as normalfags, only they're far more passive aggressive about it. Even worse, they're all mostly gynocentric scum who like to prop women on a pedestal, and if detest their female worshipping behavior, they'll all passive aggressively hate you (due to being physically weak runts).

I thought nerds and geeks would not be female orbiting cucks, but HAHA, I SURE AS HELL WAS WRONG ONCE AGAIN! I guess literally all of society is fucking cucked and there's literally nowhere I can go without anyone worshipping foids. No wonder I fit in absolutely nowhere, because nothing I do revolves around kissing foids' asses 24/7. No wonder even geeks and nerds even avoid me, because I call them out on their female worshipping bullshit.

I once decided to play video games with people and it was a horrible mistake. I wasn't good at a game, and instead of being nice about it, this one guy would constantly say "haha you suck" and "omg, you idiot, you're doing this and that wrong". I finally just said "shut the fuck up and worry about yourself cunt." He got mad and threatened to hit me, and then I got up in his face and yelled "square up, bitch" until somebody told me to sit down and I got the attention of the entire room.

What makes me even more livid about this whole situation is that a female wouldn't have been treated this way in a nerd or geek group, she would have been helped out by them. There would be all kinds of desperate guys trying to help her out with the game, and they would've propped her up instead of insulting her. They would all be trying to date her for fucks sake.

The next day he tried talking to me and being nice like nothing happened, JFL. Fuck "nerds" and fuck "geeks", they're all just the same failed normalfags looking to find anyone they see as an even bigger reject so that they can move up in the social latter. They also orbit and worship foids just as badly, if not even more.
 
Low tier normies are still normies.
 
They are filled with soy.
 
Nerds and geeks = soyboys
 
People who define their personalities around nerd culture are fucking disgusting. Their entire existence is written and sold by companies like Disney and Nintendo. They have no reason for existing other than to feed the machine. They are more likely to be soyboy IT types because they cannot stand to be hit by the realization that their lives are wasted.
 
I love nerds, geeks, weebs, all of them!!! teehee!!! xoxo :heart::heart::heart:

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They're just as discriminating and excluding as normalfags,
No we're not. For example if I am a nerd/geek for MLP (brony) I will be sad you don't enjoy my show, but if I talk about excluding you solely on that basis it will be in a funny fashion. I will be hurt if you put down what I love, but not hate you merely for not being aware of it, because there were lots of great things I was once unaware of and thought seemed stupid at face value until I looked deeper.

they're all mostly gynocentric scum who like to prop women on a pedestal,
and if detest their female worshipping behavior, they'll all passive aggressively hate you
(due to being physically weak runts).
I am prone to puttying mare waifus on a pedestal but I have a healthy suspicious of so-called pegasisters given foid tendencies to disingenuously hijack fandoms for orbiters.

You have to realize that pedestaling is a natural ramification of thirst, I try not to hold it against those who fall prey to it, it's something I think we've all experienced at some point.

I thought nerds and geeks would not be female orbiting cucks, but HAHA,
I SURE AS HELL WAS WRONG ONCE AGAIN!
I guess literally all of society is fucking cucked
You'll find cucks/orbiters in most circles. Some are more hijacked by foids than others I guess.

Hell you even find this in MRA, you probably will have this in inceldom communities too if we are given attention.

Think about it: why is there a rule against foid worship here? BECAUSE WE NEED ONE: we are prone to doing it, we need to check each other when we invariably go in that direction en-masse. Without the rule, we would naturally sink back into those tendencies.

No wonder I fit in absolutely nowhere, because nothing I do revolves around kissing foids' asses 24/7.
Play online video games without voice chat. Without audio reinforcement, you'll be naturally skeptical of people who claim to be female and can enjoy female avatars for their own beauty without caring who directs them.

I once decided to play video games with people and it was a horrible mistake.
I wasn't good at a game, and instead of being nice about it, this one guy would constantly say "haha you suck" and "omg, you idiot, you're doing this and that wrong".
I finally just said "shut the fuck up and worry about yourself cunt."
He got mad and threatened to hit me, and then I got up in his face and yelled "square up, bitch" until somebody told me to sit down and I got the attention of the entire room.
You sunk down to a lower level than your critics, you failed that test.

The better comeback is to take his advice on what you were doing wrong, defeated him, and then say "I was temporarily ignorant, not an idiot, since I learned from your instructions and defeated you".

Why are you expecting to be politely coddled by guys when you so easily sink to the behavior you criticized? It's hypocritical.

It's one thing to think 'cunt' or 'asshole' in your head, but flying off the cuff verbally is foid/nigger behavior.

The next day he tried talking to me and being nice like nothing happened, JFL.
So you're angry that the guy who was rude to you was less rude the next time you talked? What would you have preferred, that he never try talking to you again? Please explain what it is you're expecting here.

Fuck "nerds" and fuck "geeks",
they're all just the same failed normalfags looking to find anyone they see as an even bigger reject so that they can move up in the social latter.
Finding geeky hobbies in the first place may well usually (not always) originate in failed attempts at more mainstream behaviors, but after a while, I think it's less about that, and can genuinely be liking something for it's own merits.

Expecting uberpoliteness in gaming (probably fighting or racing I guess?) is a bit unrealistic. This taps into natural aggressive and competitive reptile-brain tendencies that we lose ourselves in.

Once hormones die down, behavior might be analyzed and regretted. Perhaps why "idiot" guy you called "cunt" might have tried things fresh with you next day.

They also orbit and worship foids just as badly, if not even more.
Yes, that's thirst and bluepilledness, and neither of those things are malicious acts. They are states to be pitied more than hated. We were all there once to varying degrees before we had revelations at various stages in our lives.
 
Nerds and geeks = soyboys
Yeah I dont know who in their right mind would revolve their personality around that kinda shit, just the same with gays who have nothing to add to their personality other than YAASSS QUEEN IM GAYYYY
 
No matter his hobbies or personality, all men are simp orbiters of the pedestalised pussy, from 187 holla holla got dolla gangbangers to soft as shit DnD gwand wizowds; if he's not being actively pursued by women then he's likely a cuck.
 
if he's not being actively pursued by women then he's likely a cuck.
You're only cucked if you are spending resources towards foids and not getting what you paid for, whether that's sex or children.

Taxpayers are cucks in that regard since they support the women Chad impregnates who go on welfare.

If you're NEET though, you aren't cucked so long as you're not spending your bux on camwhores.
 
What about nerdcels and geekcels?
 
No we're not.
You're in the minority then. There's a reason we are all here.
I am prone to puttying mare waifus on a pedestal but I have a healthy suspicious of so-called pegasisters given foid tendencies to disingenuously hijack fandoms for orbiters.

You have to realize that pedestaling is a natural ramification of thirst, I try not to hold it against those who fall prey to it, it's something I think we've all experienced at some point.
But I've never done this pathetic bullshit. Why is not being an ass-kisser so hard? Why is self control something beyond everyone?

You'll find cucks/orbiters in most circles. Some are more hijacked by foids than others I guess.

Hell you even find this in MRA, you probably will have this in inceldom communities too if we are given attention.

Think about it: why is there a rule against foid worship here? BECAUSE WE NEED ONE: we are prone to doing it, we need to check each other when we invariably go in that direction en-masse. Without the rule, we would naturally sink back into those tendencies.
The fact that this is even an issue is just a sad reflection of the state of "men" today. Unbelievable how it's possible that "men" would want to orbit a bitch that doesn't give a fuck about them. World War 3 needs to happen already.

You sunk down to a lower level than your critics, you failed that test.

The better comeback is to take his advice on what you were doing wrong, defeated him, and then say "I was temporarily ignorant, not an idiot, since I learned from your instructions and defeated you".
I don't care about passing any "test". If showing respect to me is beyond you, fuck you.

Why are you expecting to be politely coddled by guys when you so easily sink to the behavior you criticized? It's hypocritical.
Yes, because not being a cunt is "coddling" huh?

What is it with society and thinking that not being a condescending asshole implies one is being a doormat? It's like everybody grew up in a single mother household and doesn't know what fucking respect is.

What behavior am I "sinking to"?

It's one thing to think 'cunt' or 'asshole' in your head, but flying off the cuff verbally is foid/nigger behavior.
Get out cuck. Next you're going to say that not working to support society is "nigger/foid behavior".

What would you have preferred, that he never try talking to you again?
Yep, that's exactly what I expect. Fuck him.

What about nerdcels and geekcels?
I'm cool with them. Any 'cel who isn't a cuck, foid worshipper, or posts on IT is good in my book.

I actually have no problem with geeky or nerdy low tier guys who are incel tier, I talk with them the most during lunch hours. I just hate "nerds" and "geeks" who are complete soyboy hypebeast scum that embrace grrl power in video games, movies, and anime.
 
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They're just as discriminating and excluding as normalfags, only they're far more passive aggressive about it.
they're all just the same failed normalfags looking to find anyone they see as an even bigger reject so that they can move up in the social latter.
basically this
 
You're in the minority then. There's a reason we are all here.
We're NOT all here, being blackpilled/realist doesn't necessarily mean people will only hang out here. I post on lots of other forums, and was a realist long before coming here.

But I've never done this pathetic bullshit. Why is not being an ass-kisser so hard? Why is self control something beyond everyone?
When I speak of pedestaling I am talking about mindset, not behavior.

Even if you abstain from physically orbiting the foid, you're mentally orbitting her if she leaks into your thoughts.

Unbelievable how it's possible that "men" would want to orbit a bitch that doesn't give a fuck about them.
They want to orbit a foid they THINK gives a fuck about them. Women deceive and men idealize.
What's unbelievable about this? Look at organized religions. Look at politics.
Mass deception is EXTREMELY believable.

I don't care about passing any "test". If showing respect to me is beyond you, fuck you.
Guys giving each other shit can actually be a form of showing respect to one another.
It conveys "hey, I think you are tough enough to take this" or "hey, our comradery is so strong it can't be compromised by petty insults".

If I was playing SSB with a guy and said "fuck youuu" after he smashes me, I'm not insulting him or actually mad at him, for example.

"You IIIIIDIOT" is also not as bad as you took it: obviously he thinks you're a cut above regular society because you're playing the game he enjoys.

It's possible he just merely overestimated the thickness of your skin bro, which is probably why he tried to make it right, but you were still butthurt about it.

Yes, because not being a cunt is "coddling" huh?
In a way: yes.

The line between what is genuine attempts to hurt and friendly acknowledgements of each other's durability is an ephemeral one.

What is it with society and thinking that not being a condescending asshole implies one is being a doormat?
It's not about that guy trying not to be a doormat, it's him trying to basically do fight club and punch you in your ego mouth as an invitation for you to punch him back.

It's like everybody grew up in a single mother household and doesn't know what fucking respect is.
Growing up with a dad doesn't mean you know what genuine respect is.

"Respect" is actually a muddied topic: are you talking about ACTING WITH FAKE POLITENESS or are you talking about GENUINE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ADMIRATION OF ANOTHER'S VIRTUES.

What behavior am I "sinking to"?
Name-calling: you start using terms like 'cunt' (weirdly sexualized) when confronted with an at least somewhat appropriate insult like 'idiot' applying to your gaming skills.

Get out cuck.
Next you're going to say that not working to support society is "nigger/foid behavior".
It is: but I don't have a problem with this since you sometimes have to use their own behavior against them to deny them resources so that the system either has to pay them less or collapse under the weight of everyone being a taker.

Yep, that's exactly what I expect. Fuck him.
Too harsh. Misunderstandings happen, good to keep an open mind about that.

It sounds like you're probably mad that he didn't bow and apologize to you as much as you'd like.

Or that even if he did, you'd never be open to accepting it as genuine.

If this suspicious though: how can you be open to accepting polite-from-the-start behavior as genuine either?

This guy took a risk, he was probably being way more genuine with you than I would ever have been.

I probably would've politely/cowardly "respected" you by not calling you an idiot, while inwardly maniacally grinning.

I'm cool with them. Any 'cel who isn't a cuck, foid worshipper, or posts on IT is good in my book.
So if an angry incel walked up to you and randomly punched you in the face, that's fine as long as he isn't being cucked, doesn't worship foids or post on IT?

I actually have no problem with geeky or nerdy low tier guys who are incel tier, I talk with them the most during lunch hours.
Sounds like you are a HS student? muh impulse control

I just hate "nerds" and "geeks" who are complete soyboy hypebeast scum that embrace grrl power in video games, movies, and anime.
What constitutes grrl power is probably also somewhat subjective and hard to define.

I think there's some things many of us think are fine which more extreme critics might still take issue with.

I hope to enjoy discussing specifics with you and seeing where we agree and differ.

Could you give some specific examples in video games or anime? I'm tired of movies. Hopefully low-spoiler and just on basic concept.
 
Cucks ruined nerddom.
Only truecel used to be nerds
 
Geeks are even more soy than normalfags
 
i remember when i attempted to be friends with the nerd/geek type people, with the assumption that they'll be less judgey and more friendly/accepting than the normans, boi was i wrong.

initially they seemed fine, but over time they began acting more strange and did that whole passive aggressive excluding shit, and for no reason began giving me the cold shoulder.

it pisses me off because i struggle on a regular basis with speaking to people so when i go out of my way to attempt to talk to people, it's a pisstake when my attempts are met with this stupid shallow social status bullshit.

doesn't it get exhausting to go out of ur way to behave like an asshole, just for the chance of having even a slight social status boost? doesn't it get tiring to go through these efforts to somehow attempt to establish a semblance of "superiority", and feeling this constant need to differentiate yourself from anyone just to maintain this psychological belief of self-worth, and acting like treating some dude like a human being will somehow cause this self-worth to suddenly crumble?

not tiring for the normans, geeks and nerds apparently
 
Cucks ruined nerddom.
Only truecel used to be nerds
Trucels can't be cucked? WTF is this dichotomy.

I am also raging more about this whole dropping the "in-" prefix when adding other prefixes.

"Truicel" would be better. If we drop the N we should at least keep the I (eye).
 
Well at least most of them are still incel.
 
They also like to punch down at people they see as below them to elevate their own self esteem.
i don't understand how they don't feel guilt when they do this? they're trying so hard to look down on someone, whilst looking straight at that person. they punch down on people on the same level
 
We're NOT all here, being blackpilled/realist doesn't necessarily mean people will only hang out here. I post on lots of other forums, and was a realist long before coming here.
That's not what I meant, you know what I meant. Stop playing semantics, that's cheap. I clearly meant there's a reason why people post here.

When I speak of pedestaling I am talking about mindset, not behavior.

Even if you abstain from physically orbiting the foid, you're mentally orbitting her if she leaks into your thoughts.
This is fucking absurd. Thinking about someone doesn't mean you orbit them. Obvuiously I meant orbiting socially or through words, but again, you're playing semantics and on-purposely misconstruing what I say.

They want to orbit a foid they THINK gives a fuck about them. Women deceive and men idealize.
What's unbelievable about this? Look at organized religions. Look at politics.
Yes, but it's understandable why some people would fall for such things. Falling for some girl to this level is just pathetic. It's clear that the girl doesn't want them, yet they still keep falling head-over-heels for them.

Guys giving each other shit can actually be a form of showing respect to one another.
It conveys "hey, I think you are tough enough to take this" or "hey, our comradery is so strong it can't be compromised by petty insults".

If I was playing SSB with a guy and said "fuck youuu" after he smashes me, I'm not insulting him or actually mad at him, for example.

"You IIIIIDIOT" is also not as bad as you took it: obviously he thinks you're a cut above regular society because you're playing the game he enjoys.

It's possible he just merely overestimated the thickness of your skin bro, which is probably why he tried to make it right, but you were still butthurt about it.
He was clearly being disrespectful, he wasn't clearly just trying to give me shit. I know the difference. You weren't in this situation, so you don't get to make that call.

If my skin is so thin, then why did he get butthurt and threaten to hit me for telling him to shut up? You won't say anything about that though, because that goes against you trying to score internet points against people online. I didn't even get mad at him until he threatened to hit me, so I think the butthurt one in this situation is him.

Growing up with a dad doesn't mean you know what genuine respect is.

"Respect" is actually a muddied topic: are you talking about ACTING WITH FAKE POLITENESS or are you talking about GENUINE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ADMIRATION OF ANOTHER'S VIRTUES.
Once again, you knew what I meant.

I'm talking about some basic level respect that you should show anyone, such as NOT BEING A CUNT.

Name-calling: you start using terms like 'cunt' (weirdly sexualized) when confronted with an at least somewhat appropriate insult like 'idiot' applying to your gaming skills.
Are you this daft, or are you on purposely trying to be willingly ignorant of the situation? He did the same shit.

The line between what is genuine attempts to hurt and friendly acknowledgements of each other's durability is an ephemeral one.
He wasn't friendly whatsoever. He behaved just like any other asshole who wants to establish a pecking order.

Too harsh. Misunderstandings happen, good to keep an open mind about that.

It sounds like you're probably mad that he didn't bow and apologize to you as much as you'd like.

Or that even if he did, you'd never be open to accepting it as genuine.

If this suspicious though: how can you be open to accepting polite-from-the-start behavior as genuine either?

This guy took a risk, he was probably being way more genuine with you than I would ever have been.

I probably would've politely/cowardly "respected" you by not calling you an idiot, while inwardly maniacally grinning.
Don't say "open mind", that phrase makes me sick.

I would've accepted it and moved on. I actually don't want him to fuck off forever, I was just not in the right state of mind when I wrote that.

I don't ask for politeness, I ask for respect. There's a difference, but you seem to lack that understanding. Being nice and polite is not the same as basic boundaries and showing civility towards someone. Once he stopped doing that, so did I.

So if an angry incel walked up to you and randomly punched you in the face, that's fine as long as he isn't being cucked, doesn't worship foids or post on IT?
Once again, you're playing semantics. I don't like how you're cheap-shotting my arguments, it's not a good look for you in the long run, trust me.

I hope to enjoy discussing specifics with you and seeing where we agree and differ.

Could you give some specific examples in video games or anime? I'm tired of movies. Hopefully low-spoiler and just on basic concept.
No, I'm not going to be doing your homework for you. I don't care particularly that much about debating over that.
 
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That's not what I meant, you know what I meant. Stop playing semantics, that's cheap. I clearly meant there's a reason why people post here.
There could be a lot of reasons. I needed an outlet for my crassness and rage since 8ch.net went down, and 8kun.top is being laggy.

This is fucking absurd. Thinking about someone doesn't mean you orbit them. Obvuiously I meant orbiting socially or through words, but again, you're playing semantics and on-purposely misconstruing what I say.
This goes back to you saying "they're all mostly gynocentric scum who like to prop women on a pedestal," earlier.

Being gynocentric or putting them on pedestals is a metaphor not just for physical behavior (actually interacting with foids, helping them move, holding their hair back while they vomit and cry about chad while being friendzoned) but also mental attitude.

You can have gynocentric one-itis about a foid you never actually bother to interact with (just watch her from window, cry about her in bed each day after buying coffee from her, etc) , is my point. So if you want to only describe guys who actually go out and do physical services for the foid, it needs more specific terminology.

Yes, but it's understandable why some people would fall for such things.
Falling for some girl to this level is just pathetic.
It's clear that the girl doesn't want them, yet they still keep falling head-over-heels for them.
It's clear to us as 3rd-party neutral observers, but they've got goggles on, I completely understand why they would lack perspective under foid thrall. It's the same way they lose perspective in the grasp of religions.

He was clearly being disrespectful, he wasn't clearly just trying to give me shit.
I know the difference.
You weren't in this situation, so you don't get to make that call.
Vocab like "disrespectful" are things I try to avoid, they seem useless.

Things can be polite or impolite, but either of those can have good or bad motives behind them.

You can admire or detest someone you're polite or impolite to. All permutations exist.

I can accept that your judgment based on experience is that MORE LIKELY THAN NOT he was trying to put you down in a NON-friendly manner... but I do hope you are humble enough to have a sliver of doubt about your ability to read others, since it's possible he was genuine.

I feel very much like you about some people... I just KNOW their fucking asshole motives are not friendly and are there to torture me. But that opinion I hold about people who I've known for MONTHS after witnessing hours and hours of their bullshit with no meaningful deviation.

As much as I would be prone to rushing to hateful judgment about a guy I just met at a gaming convention, predicting that now, I would hope to maybe 2nd-guess it better, and maybe have more than one interaction before forming a static immutable opinion about them.

There are definitely some people where I have a "I never want to interact with them again, fuck them, they're scum" conclusion though, so I'm not ruling it out as acceptable, just worth more time in reaching.

If my skin is so thin, then why did he get butthurt and threaten to hit me for telling him to shut up?
You won't say anything about that though
because that goes against you trying to score internet points against people online.
TBH it kinda slipped my mind, probably because you for some reason paraphrased that part while putting the other stuff in quotes, so it's more noticeable.

For me to give that second thought could you elaborate and given an example of how he threatened you? Like did he hold up his fists? Or say "why I oughtta..." like a stooge?

I didn't even get mad at him until he threatened to hit me, so I think the butthurt one in this situation is him.
Hm, so your 'cunt' reply was in a playful and not defensive manner?

Once again, you knew what I meant.

I'm talking about some basic level respect that you should show anyone, such as NOT BEING A CUNT.
But if you weren't mad about it, as you said above, then you didn't actually take being called stupid as an insult.

You can't "show" respect. The feeling in your head is either admiration or fear. The behavior is either politeness or rudeness.

Respect has no clear meaning, pick a word that does.

When someone behaves like a gentleman toward you, you don't actually know if he respects you or fears you. You merely speculate.

Are you this daft, or are you on purposely trying to be willingly ignorant of the situation? He did the same shit.
In the sense of namecalling, yes, but the nature (stupid v cunt) was different.

It's like "daft" v "pussy". Or "brute" v "homo". Sexualized insults are escalations.

He wasn't friendly whatsoever. He behaved just like any other asshole who wants to establish a pecking order.
Yes you said you weren't mad at "stupid" and so anger did not motivate "cunt"?

Part of the problem with guy behaviors is that it's not always clearly discernable in fog of war what is pecking order putdowns and what is "my bros can take it" shit-talking.

I will readily admit that there are times I might view malice where there isn't any, I think we could be prone to such paranoia due to the reality of friends backstabbing us being so prevalent.

Don't say "open mind", that phrase makes me sick.
We all have out hangups... perhaps "don't be too fanatical about conclusions you reach about strangers you just met" ?

I would've accepted it and moved on. I actually don't want him to fuck off forever, I was just not in the right state of mind when I wrote that.
Ah okay, so hopefully you guys can work out your differences later and be bros, or even sequential holebros.

I don't ask for politeness, I ask for respect. There's a difference, but you seem to lack that understanding.
Being nice and polite is not the same as basic boundaries and showing civility towards someone. Once he stopped doing that, so did I.
Basic boundaries and civility ARE politeness. What exactly do you think the difference is?

Abiding by boundaries and abiding by standards of civility are sometimes called stuff like "respecting boundaries" but I don't like terming it that way. Abide is basically follow/obey regardless of how you FEEL about something, and "respect" is a verb which calls up feelings like admiration or fear depending on how it is used... and thus is always abused and a shitty pointless word that negresses bellow about.

Once again, you're playing semantics.
I don't like how you're cheap-shotting my arguments,
it's not a good look for you in the long run, trust me.
I've always looked bad for paying attention to words, and it calls up all kinds of silly phrases like semantics, pedantic, pseudo-intellectual, etc. I'm used to it. I'm not going to abandon my opinions over it.

Expecting people to know your mind despite your words is basically foid-tier thinking. We can do better.

Basically if you want to say shit like "Any X who doesn't A B or C is good in my book", expect people to bring up D, because you're just naturally inviting people to think of outrageous stuff you didn't list as a fourth exception to your goodies book.

No, I'm not going to be doing your homework for you. I don't care particularly that much about debating over that.
I'm fine giving an example: do you have any objections to Terra Bradford in FF6? Tifa Lockhart in FF7? *shrug*
 
There could be a lot of reasons. I needed an outlet for my crassness and rage since 8ch.net went down, and 8kun.top is being laggy.
It was a sad day when 8ch went down. It was one of the few places on the internet that wasn't cucked, and that I genuinely enjoyed. Then it was taken away.

This place is one of the few remaining places that I actually enjoy.

Being gynocentric or putting them on pedestals is a metaphor not just for physical behavior (actually interacting with foids, helping them move, holding their hair back while they vomit and cry about chad while being friendzoned) but also mental attitude.

You can have gynocentric one-itis about a foid you never actually bother to interact with (just watch her from window, cry about her in bed each day after buying coffee from her, etc) , is my point. So if you want to only describe guys who actually go out and do physical services for the foid, it needs more specific terminology.
Well I guess you're right in the regard that it is possible to be propping girls on a pedestal mentally. I will admit that I have been guilty of this myself at once, shamefully. Thankfully I have not been a repeat offender and have stopping doing this ever since I had one**is 2 years ago.

What I was talking about was guys who have a general gynocentric sentiment in general. It just seems like the nerd and geek circles unfortunately are highly gynocentric sentiment in general (which I absolutely loathe) and have a tendency to pedestalize a girl socially. That's one of the reasons why they rubbed off on me badly. Maybe I just had the misfortune of running into a bunch of nerds who happened to be gynocentric, who knows.

But if you weren't mad about it, as you said above, then you didn't actually take being called stupid as an insult.
It has little to do with the context of what he said and more to do with the overall level of disrespect. He kept disrespecting me and it got to a point where I got tired of it and told him to just shut the fuck up.

You can't "show" respect. The feeling in your head is either admiration or fear. The behavior is either politeness or rudeness.

Respect has no clear meaning, pick a word that does.
I would disagree. You don't have to be rude or polite to someone. You can be indifferent to someone, which is my definition of "basic respect".

But since most people can't agree on what respect means and the definition of it is unclear as a result, I'll stick with "indifference" instead. I'd much rather be treated with indifference.


Sexualized insults are escalations.
This wasn't a sexualized insult whatsoever. Words can take on different meanings based on their context or how they are being used. Calling someone a "piece of shit" doesn't mean your using a scatological insult, it means you're calling them a terrible person due to context.

Yes you said you weren't mad at "stupid" and so anger did not motivate "cunt"?

Part of the problem with guy behaviors is that it's not always clearly discernable in fog of war what is pecking order putdowns and what is "my bros can take it" shit-talking.

I will readily admit that there are times I might view malice where there isn't any, I think we could be prone to such paranoia due to the reality of friends backstabbing us being so prevalent.
I'll reiterate, I wasn't mad at first, until it became clear that he was clearly disrespecting me. That's what led to the escalation of things.

And I highly agree with you, it's hard to tell with guy behaviors. That's why I don't get very angry until I'm certain that they're clearly showing disrespect. The problem with that is that not all of them outright show disrespect, and if I don't do anything about it initially, they get the false impression that I am a pushover.

We all have out hangups... perhaps "don't be too fanatical about conclusions you reach about strangers you just met" ?
Don't worry about that, I haven't made any definite conclusions on you yet even though it would be easy to do so. It's the reason why I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and not outright dismissing you in the first place.

Ah okay, so hopefully you guys can work out your differences later and be bros, or even sequential holebros.
Hopefully the ladder, preferably.

Basic boundaries and civility ARE politeness. What exactly do you think the difference is?

Abiding by boundaries and abiding by standards of civility are sometimes called stuff like "respecting boundaries" but I don't like terming it that way. Abide is basically follow/obey regardless of how you FEEL about something, and "respect" is a verb which calls up feelings like admiration or fear depending on how it is used... and thus is always abused and a shitty pointless word that negresses bellow about.
I think the word respect has been abused, I agree with that. Which is tragic, honestly. I see politeness as going out of your way to be nice, with respect meaning that you do not go out of your way to act like a rude asshole towards someone.

But that's my definition of the words. Since people don't seem to understand the meaning of the words, it's not hard to see why there's confusion between us.

Expecting people to know your mind despite your words is basically foid-tier thinking. We can do better.

Basically if you want to say shit like "Any X who doesn't A B or C is good in my book", expect people to bring up D, because you're just naturally inviting people to think of outrageous stuff you didn't list as a fourth exception to your goodies book
Allow me to introduce you to something that everyone uses in their daily lives, which is deductive reasoning. Deductive reasoning can be summed up as making educated guesses on a specific matter based on everything you already know. The average person does this all the time, and they are usually correct almost all the time.

Obviously, using deductive reasoning, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that I would most certainly not be cool with an incel who punched me in the face. Not mentioning this does not mean that one would be okay with this scenario, it means that they already expect you to know that they wouldn't be okay with it, because nobody is okay with someone just walking up to them and punching them in the face.

Being annoyed with someone for not being capable of using deductive reasoning, a basic fundamental thing that even children can do, is not expecting someone to read your mind or "foid-like behavior". Anyone can already make well educated assumptions that are generally true already.

If you said, "I'd be okay with the plumber being late as long as he did a good job," you would be reasonably annoyed if I said "Oh, so you'd be okay with him killing you as long as he got the job done?" because that's clearly not what you meant. Being able to understand that doesn't require tapping into someone's brainwaves and trying to reduce what their thoughts may be from EEG readings, it just requires common sense.

I'm fine giving an example: do you have any objections to Terra Bradford in FF6? Tifa Lockhart in FF7? *shrug*
I can't give an opinion on this one. But I don't really have any problems with powerful female characters, just the hypebeast soyboys who turn then into politicized feminist icons and use them to push the prevelant anti-male sentiment everywhere.
 
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What I was talking about was guys who have a general gynocentric sentiment in general.
It just seems like the nerd and geek circles unfortunately are highly gynocentric sentiment in general (which I absolutely loathe) and have a tendency to pedestalize a girl socially.
I don't see this as any local problem here in particular but more a symptom of gyocentricism slowly trickling into the majority of social contexts as they enter (I won't say invade, we admittedly do invite them) and then try to dominate male-borne hobbies.

That's one of the reasons why they rubbed off on me badly.
Maybe I just had the misfortune of running into a bunch of nerds who happened to be gynocentric, who knows.
It's easier to understand with anecdotes... what attitudes you think might be absent in non-geek or non-nerd hobby circles, specifically?

What is the superior non-gynocentric hobby group you're thinking of here?

It has little to do with the context of what he said and more to do with the overall level of disrespect. He kept disrespecting me and it got to a point where I got tired of it and told him to just shut the fuck up.
I just prefer to call it rudeness, not disrespect. Rudeness can convey admiration just like politeness can convey contempt. Socializing is multifaceted with many layers.

I would disagree. You don't have to be rude or polite to someone. You can be indifferent to someone, which is my definition of "basic respect".
I would just call indifference... indifference.

But since most people can't agree on what respect means and the definition of it is unclear as a result, I'll stick with "indifference" instead. I'd much rather be treated with indifference.
I'm on your wavelength now bra

This wasn't a sexualized insult whatsoever. Words can take on different meanings based on their context or how they are being used. Calling someone a "piece of shit" doesn't mean your using a scatological insult, it means you're calling them a terrible person due to context.
POS is definitely scatological, there's no avoiding it. Cunt will always be sexual.

No matter how broad these get used, no matter how people doth protest, the subconscious knows the association in the etymology and reacts differently to it.

That applies to "jerk" and "dick" too, btw.

you guys can work out your differences later and be bros,
or even sequential holebros.
Hopefully the ladder, preferably.
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Allow me to introduce you to something that everyone uses in their daily lives, which is deductive reasoning. Deductive reasoning can be summed up as making educated guesses on a specific matter based on everything you already know. The average person does this all the time, and they are usually correct almost all the time.

Obviously, using deductive reasoning, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that I would most certainly not be cool with an incel who punched me in the face.
Yeah I know, but despite my deductive instincts I still like to be a whiny bitch and go full NSDAP on language, to pursue the glorious singularity.

Being annoyed with someone for not being capable of using deductive reasoning, a basic fundamental thing that even children can do, is not expecting someone to read your mind or "foid-like behavior". Anyone can already make well educated assumptions that are generally true already.
I wouldn't say not capable, or even not using, but looking past those instincts to criticize the need to apply it in the first place through speaking in strange metaphors.

If you said, "I'd be okay with the plumber being late as long as he did a good job,"
you would be reasonably annoyed if I said
"Oh, so you'd be okay with him killing you as long as he got the job done?"
because that's clearly not what you meant.
I see your point, but I feel like I shouldn't be annoyed with you and instead be impressed at you.
"I can forgive lateness if the job is well down" is a litter clearer, after all.
We could strive to express that way.

Being able to understand that doesn't require tapping into someone's brainwaves and trying to reduce what their thoughts may be from EEG readings, it just requires common sense.
The reason I pick at obvious scenarios like this is because other cases of inference can be less obvious, and 'common sense' can lead to misunderstandings, plus it does not prompt analysis of our own speaking patterns, which is fun.

By building habits with obvious cases, we can build habits to apply to less obvious ones.

I don't really have any problems with powerful female characters,
just the hypebeast soyboys who turn then into politicized feminist icons
and use them to push the prevelant anti-male sentiment everywhere.
So we hate the driver more than the vehicle. I can see that. Where it gets hard to distinguish is when creators themselves have clear agendas, it makes you want to hate their char even if in context the char seems fine.
 
:feelshaha: , what game were you playing? Nerd and geek hobbies are the same as any other hobby. Looks are everything. If you're ugly and bad people say you suck and insult you, and if you are good and beat people they say you're cheap, you got lucky, that you're arrogant, and that you're annoying.
 
People who define their personalities around nerd culture are fucking disgusting. Their entire existence is written and sold by companies like Disney and Nintendo. They have no reason for existing other than to feed the machine. They are more likely to be soyboy IT types because they cannot stand to be hit by the realization that their lives are wasted.
 
Fuck "nerds" and fuck "geeks", they're all just the same failed normalfags looking to find anyone they see as an even bigger reject so that they can move up in the social latter. They also orbit and worship foids just as badly, if not even more.
My thoughts on normie "nerd" and "geek" faggots exactly. It also makes me laugh how some think they're better than us just because they're with a used whore who didn't even choose them first, second, third, etc. Pathetic and delusional idiots.
Low tier normies are still normies.
People who define their personalities around nerd culture are fucking disgusting. Their entire existence is written and sold by companies like Disney and Nintendo. They have no reason for existing other than to feed the machine. They are more likely to be soyboy IT types because they cannot stand to be hit by the realization that their lives are wasted.
 

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