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As incels, we're more likely to be in this suicidal nihilistic apathetic state. A lot of us are non-neurotypical and we're aware of the blackpill and how life is suffering. We can't cover our eyes and cope the way normies do with betabuxx relationships and festivals and shit.
I see a lot of posts about "how do I cope","how to not rope", and "life is hell and I lack the constitution for suicide, it's just my programming keeping me going - how do I stop it"
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I went through those stages as well. I still feel this way. I don't have a solution to fixing that. But I have a recommendation that helped me a ton with it. two simple steps:
1. minimize suffering, 2. find the best cope. let me elaborate.
1. minimizing suffering
You. do. not. have. to do anything. other than survive.
That's right, once you have food shelter and your life isn't in danger, you don't have to do anything extra. You don't have to try to looksmaxx and be neurotic and take normies advice and chase foids that will never fuck you. That's a cause of suffering. You don't have to compete with normies on the status game (that shit does nothing anyway) and try to be alpha, king of instagram or whatever the fuck they do. You don't have to constantly put yourself in normie conversations and socialize, especially if you don't get dopamine from surface level fucking chitchat about sports and celebrities. That's a cause of suffering. Do you understand? Remember every time you went and expended energy on something someone else wanted you to do and it did absolutely fucking nothing for you but cause you suffering? yeah you don't have to do that. Part of it is our programming but we have brains, our brains can understand that our programming somtimes leads to suffering. practice Aceticism.
This sounds like LDAR or bhuddist advice, but it's just the first step to making incel existence better. Minimize your demands and obligations, clear your schedule, make life as uninvasive as possible. The goal is to make it almost completely boring outside of maintaining food, shelter, and health.
2. coping
Now that life is incredibly low maintenance and boring. Low energy drain - notice something? You don't feel "happy"? you just feel bored, if you start to think you feel like you're just approaching death and rotting slowly? Yeah that's the default state in life for everyone who isn't too busy fighting for food and safety, every fucking person feels it.
LIFE IS SUFFERING. "I think. therefore I am (aware of my death) so I better stop thinking)".
There is no cure from that. Nothing will ever get rid of that feeling permanently. pleasure, pain, distractions, drugs, a million followers on instagram, a thousand hours of porn videos, a thousand prostitutes, trips to the beach. Nothing will get rid of that deep unfulfillment. That's the tragedy of having a conciousness and a mind or will that wishes to be more than a meat sac that exists and perishes. You will never fill that hole.
filling that existential hole is impossible.
NO ONE HAS THIS "HAPPINESS" THE MIND IS SEEKING. This perfect state where there's nothing wrong and "our life is fulfilling" doesn't exist. it's. a. fucking lie. It's a sick joke played on us by biology or satan or whoever. Being trapped in this aging fluctuating flesh but having a mind that seeks perfection and infinity.
so what the fuck do you do? Cope.
ALL SATISFACTION. EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO OUTSIDE OF MEETING YOUR NEEDS TO EAT AND SLEEP - IS TEMPORARY SATISFACTION, EVERYTHING IS A COPE AND IT WILL NEVER FILL THE HOLE.
our lives are a hedonic treadmill, a wave function. our natural state is to be existentially dreadful and miserable. We just have copes that distract us from that or assault our body with horomones and pleasure (or pain if you're a masochist) that make us forget that. It's like a cosine function:
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What does all this mean when it comes to preventing suicide as an incel? well first, ejaculating inside of a foid would not stop you from comitting suicide, it would only be a form of cope with life. If it's a prostitute, that high doesn't last very long at all. Usually followed by disgust and more suffering. If you enter a betabuxx marriage, fucking your unenthusiastic wife that you're basically paying for won't stop you from feeling suicidal, it would just be a high not much different from jacking off, but with endorphins from human touch. You'd immediately feel suffering after realizing you now have to live as a betabuxxer, pay for a foid to cheat on you, get divorce raped, have a dead bedroom, etc. Normies are surprisingly good at covering their eyes to this phenomenon and then crying about it on reddit 40 years into their marriage.
A woman that desires you would be an ideal cope, so would some kids probably. But this is incels.is - that shit doesn't happen to us, only chads. And even chads get tired of that shit, some of them kill themselves too. Life is suffering.
in summary. There's nothing that
won't make you kill yourself, only distract you from it. So get to distracting yourself. Pick good copes. All the copes are hedonic treadmill. Drugs. sex. raising kids. driving. eating. etc. too much of any of them becomes an unpleasurable experince. The human body gets used to the chemicals and novelty wears off, you return back to your original state of boredom or suffering if you have a negative situation. so switch it up every now and then.
here's what all of this looks like for me and how it helped:
- my suffering is minimal. I live in my comfort zone, keep my calendar free of obligations, live minimally, my job and income are as minimal and optimal as possible.
- I found my favorite copes. Movies, abstraction. projects. science. art. music. mathetmatics.
Your favorite cope might not be science and abstraction. But there's something about that cope that makes it different - schopenhauer agreed with this - abstraction, art, science, creativity. you have a sensitive mind they work as great copes because they take you out of existence. You become entrenched in the programming you're doing, the book you're reading, whatever you're observing, you genuinely forget that suffering exists, and your brain is in a state of pure focus ontop of getting the chemicals and dopamine. I think it's what drug addicts and alcohol addicts are looking for when they try to numb their pain. It's become like my only cope. it's all I do. I literally only take breaks to maintain my life, do chores and obligations, let my body rest, or if I get bored I switch it up, do something a little more stimulating like driving fast or shooting a gun, then when i've had enough of that I turn back to this.
I no longer have suicidal thoughts often, or at least if I do I remember that it's not all that bad cause I can cope and that's better than trying to get past my fear of suicide to put myself out of my misery.
I will live like this until I die. It might be a completely pointless post. Only a few of you might resonate. But It's what I needed earlier. Normies probably shouldn't follow their advice, I doubt their minds are as sensitive to cope or live this depressed philosopher life. They'd cry like babies if they had to read a book or sit still for an hour. That's why they cope with drugs tiktok and loud parties and football and their dead bedroom marriages. No shame in that, I'm just non-neurotypical. I used to wish I was like them but then I found this advice. and remember, not one person on the planet can fill that existential hole, that's why everyone's searching for "happiness" even when they have every luxury and pleasure and power and control available - for those born with everything they turn to some extreme fucking copes but that's for another day.
