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JFL I Find Most Men Unattractive. What’s Wrong With Me?

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In a world with infinite options on dating apps, where finding a new guy is as easy as swiping, why is it so hard to find an attractive guy?

What can you do if you date online and wouldn’t even agree to match with 99 men out of 100?

If you don’t have attraction, can you have a relationship at all?

Dating coach Evan Marc Katz discusses why it’s so difficult for women who don’t find most men attractive.

Are the vast majority of men really that unattractive?​

I find the vast, vast, vast majority of men unattractive. Mostly it’s that I don’t have any physical attraction to them. Still, once in a while (about twice a year if I’m on a lot of dating sites, or once every few years if I’m not), I’ll meet someone I actually think is good looking (a hint here is that I find most celebrities physically unattractive. Apparently my sex drive is picky but I couldn’t tell you why – although I DO have a high sex drive…).

However, I’m also aware, having been through a lot of therapy after numerous and significant mental health difficulties (eating disorders, etc.), that I tend to date cold or unavailable men and then not ask for more and maintain that emotional distance.

Essentially, I seem to have been in the
habit of avoiding intimacy by going out with people I don’t find attractive, or more often than I’d like to admit, men I know are gay before I even ask them out. Otherwise, they’re narcissistic, give mixed messages, aren’t close in some way, etc.

Knowing that I have that pattern, I promised myself to pick up on coldness whenever I find someone attractive and to walk away. And that is something I do – I look specifically for empathy.

And guess what…on those rare occasions when the idea of kissing/sleeping with someone is not downright unappealing, they’re cold and narcissistic. So, I walk away.

Now, to be honest, I’m not too bothered about finding someone in the next couple of years. I’m still young at 28, and my career is my priority right now, so I’m not in too much of a hurry.

Still, it’s been bothering me because I’m starting to worry that my family messed me up so much I’ll never be able to love anyone.

I’m treated and no longer diagnosable – I’ve made a massive recovery and feel extremely healthy – so I don’t think more therapy will suddenly make me find more men attractive.

I have tried being with people I don’t find attractive – and I usually remain friends with very nice men I have tried to date but didn’t find attractive, and I’m afraid they don’t start growing on me. They just became my friend.

Have you come across this, and do you think I find so many men physically unappealing because of something psychological?

Some of my friends think it’s done with the bar being raised… I’m quite attractive myself, and I’ve had a lot of attention from the opposite sex since I was about 13, including the “very good looking,” so perhaps it just knows what I could have, influencing me?


Worried you might be the only woman who feels this way? You’re not!​

I feel for you, SG. I do. After all of your therapy, you are as self-aware as you can be, and yet it still seems to me that you have some significant blind spots about your problem.

Now, first of all, I want to make it crystal clear: you are not alone.

Women, on the whole, are far more discerning than men when it comes to physical attraction. In the linked OkCupid study, women think that 80% of men are BELOW average in attractiveness when, in a normal distribution, that number should be 50%.

I’m not going to say whether these women are right, although THEY certainly feel they are. I will say that men, for all their flaws, are equal opportunity daters in a way that women are not.

Men, for all their flaws, are equal opportunity daters in a way that women are not.
While they will still lust for the hottest woman around, they’ll ultimately marry someone in their league, which is not always that attractive.

Discover how to change your perception of attractiveness​

Your issue, however, is a little more extreme and reminds me of a client I had a few years back: a very attractive woman — a 43-year-old personal trainer who hated online dating for the very reason you mentioned.

No one was attractive enough for her. When we went through the website to take inventory, I asked her to put 40 guys on her favorites list. She couldn’t even do so.

The only 6 guys she found attractive looked like 32-year-old GQ models whose preferred age range was 22-29. My client was out of luck because she found less than 1% of men attractive, including NO men her age who wanted her in return.

Let’s just say that this wasn’t one of my success stories.

And this is where we bump up against one of my limitations as a coach. I’m not a psychologist who has been trained to delve into your past; my specialty is helping women in the present model confident behavior to elicit better results in the future.

Your issue, in this instance, isn’t lack of confidence; it’s something that runs much deeper, something you only hinted at when you say that your family “messed you up.” Without knowing you, I have to concur.

Why you might be attracting the wrong type of man​

Just read what you wrote to me:

“(I) avoid intimacy by going out with people I don’t find attractive.”

Sorry, but I want to challenge that assertion. You avoid intimacy by going out with people you DO find attractive — because the only people you find attractive are, in your words, “cold and narcissistic.”

That begins in your childhood, SG, with an absent, distant, or abusive father.

And so, it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. The only men you’re drawn to are the worst ones; the other 99%, you eliminate because you’re not attracted to them.

You seem somewhat aware of this when you state that you walk away from emotionally distant men — and yet you claim they’re the only people you sleep with since the “vast, vast, vast” majority of men are unattractive to you.

And here you are, writing to me, wondering if you will ever be able to love anyone.

You have every right to worry.

What it means to be attracted to more men​

I can’t “fix” you from here, but I can tell you that something is very wrong if you only find 2 people attractive “every few years.” There’s discerning, and there’s being impossible, and you’ve unfortunately raised the bar so high that no man can jump it.

There’s discerning, and there’s being impossible, and you’ve unfortunately raised the bar so high that no man can jump it.
You are attracted to the wrong men for reasons beyond your control.

You need to rewire yourself on what it means to be in a healthy relationship.

And if it means you have to dial down your attraction from a 10 to a 7, in order to find an emotionally healthy guy, that’s a price well worth paying.

Wrap Up​

Overall, those things may sound awful to you on two counts:

  1. you refuse to compromise on chemistry
  2. you don’t think that a 7 chemistry actually exists.
For you, it’s all or nothing. I believe you.

But that’s not normal, it’s not healthy, and it will leave you no dating options whenever you decide to take your love life seriously again.

Get thee to a really good therapist. You’re worth the investment.
 
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what a surprise. seriously. imagine my shock reading this
boomer tier shit but blackpilling nonetheless jfl
 
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boomer tier shit but blackpilling nonetheless jfl
I read like half of it and it was kind of a waste of time. She only finds 1% of men attractive and complains about not finding a good guy
 
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I read like half of it and it was kind of a waste of time. She only finds 1% of men attractive and complains about not finding a good guy
having been through a lot of therapy after numerous and significant mental health difficulties (eating disorders, etc.)
landwhale confirmed :feelsEhh:
 
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However, I’m also aware, having been through a lot of therapy after numerous and significant mental health difficulties (eating disorders, etc.), that I tend to date cold or unavailable men and then not ask for more and maintain that emotional distance.
A tale as old as time, foul female of the dark. Opinion disregarded :feelsYall:
 
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Now, to be honest, I’m not too bothered about finding someone in the next couple of years. I’m still young at 28, and my career is my priority right now, so I’m not in too much of a hurry.
Jfl I love the obvious insecurity here

Anyone with half a brain understands that as a woman in your 30s the window of opportunity to get into a committed relationship with a man in the 99th percentile of attractiveness is long over if it ever existed at all
 
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Too long, didnt read
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It's beyond over at this point.
 
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Surprised the dating coach actually criticized her for being a Chad chaser
 
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just lol @ the fact that this article literally has to tell women to go for "personality" (like they love to say) instead of looks
 
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just lol @ the fact that this article literally has to tell women to go for "personality" (like they love to say) instead of looks
Too bad our collective personalities sucks ass and swallows :feelshaha:
 
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In a world with infinite options on dating apps, where finding a new guy is as easy as swiping, why is it so hard to find an attractive guy?
There's your answer.
 
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Its over for most of us if i have to come here remind you that 80% of men are seen as unattractive by the usual foid you see
 
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Dating coach Evan Marc Katz discusses why it’s so difficult for women who don’t find most men attractive.
Katz is a jewish name. Just mentioning, in case you didn't know.
 
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Women who have freedoms to pick and choose, that only benefits the top 5% of men. Conservative Islamic countries are the only based ones left.
 
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Conservative Islamic countries are the only based ones left.
Islam is only good for controlling foids, everything else about it is cucked like not being able to eat fucking pork
 
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Islam is only good for controlling foids

I suppose so, but the foids are getting more freedom in some parts and the future doesn't look good for it. It's not hard to notice how Christian Europe and the west in general has eroded since foids got rights to do everything a man can do.
 
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I suppose so, but the foids are getting more freedom in some parts and the future doesn't look good for it. It's not hard to notice how Christian Europe and the west in general has eroded since foids got rights to do everything a man can do.
I unironically support the Burqa because I get infuriated every time I leave my house and see a woman's face
 
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I read like half of it and it was kind of a waste of time. She only finds 1% of men attractive and complains about not finding a good guy
The COlD chads, lol, have no interest in her
 
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Jfl I love the obvious insecurity here

Anyone with half a brain understands that as a woman in your 30s the window of opportunity to get into a committed relationship with a man in the 99th percentile of attractiveness is long over if it ever existed at all
Well, she WAS getting hit on by Chad.

But,. That's over.
 
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just lol @ the fact that this article literally has to tell women to go for "personality" (like they love to say) instead of looks
No.

The dating guru told her to downgrade to a 7 or 8.

Which is still an 80 20 proposition.
 
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just lol @ the fact that this article literally has to tell women to go for "personality" (like they love to say) instead of looks
No.

The dating guru told her to downgrade to a 7 or 8.

Which is still an 80 20 k
 
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Nowadays I'm in a headspace that is actually able to find amusement in the fact people will always find a way to suffer and complain about their problems, no matter how well-off they are compared to others or even the average person.
Holy shit, Mainlander is back
 
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