Serious I don't want to die alone

[gookincel]

Sometimes this topic comes into my mind and I continue to think about it for hours before I get drunk and fall asleep. I just want a girl who'll love me for who I am. I have no preferences. If she loved me I would be happy. But I feel what if that never happens? What if I never get a girl. I don't know what I am going to do. I don't want to miss all those emotions that other people in relationships experience. I can't even accept the thought of dying without kissing a girl.

I have tried so much, what more should I do? I know this isn't really a place to ask for self improvement but nobody irl understands it. I have tried improving my dressing sense, getting haircuts that suits my face, developing hobbies, respecting women and not acting entitled etc but none of that worked so far. In fact guys who didn't do these things had better success than me. I just want a girl in my life.

 

[VisVoi]

I don't want to be alone either, I want a sense of brotherhood (in real life, ofc).

Bitches ain't shit.

 

[rudolfhess]

Girls don't care about your happiness. They don't even care about Chad's happiness. Everything they do, they do for themselves.

 

[gookincel]

Girls don't care about your happiness. They don't even care about Chad's happiness. Everything they do, they do for themselves.

But there must be exceptions?

 

[acnescarcel]

get plastic surgery, become a betabuxx, drop out of society, or rope. the only 4 options we have.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

The idea of a married couple growing old together has eroded now. Only a very, very small percentage of women will stay with a man until his death.

You lost your job? She'll leave you.
You had an accident and got a disability? She'll leave you.
You age badly? She'll leave you.
She meets a younger, or better looking man? She's fucking leaving you buddy.

 

[gookincel]

get plastic surgery, become a betabuxx, drop out of society, or rope. the only 4 options we have.

I agree, but wouldn't there be any woman who'll like me as I am? There are so many women. I know that's not practical though.

The idea of a married couple growing old together has eroded now. Only a very, very small percentage of women will stay with a man until his death.

You lost your job? She'll leave you.
You had an accident and got a disability? She'll leave you.
You age badly? She'll leave you.
She meets a younger, or better looking man? She's fucking leaving you buddy.

Then what's the solution?

 

[acnescarcel]

I agree, but wouldn't there be any woman who'll like me as I am? There are so many women. I know that's not practical though.

Then what's the solution?

its possible, but not likely. there is no solution. theres nothing we can do to stop hypergamy.

 

[rudolfhess]

But there must be exceptions?

It's 100% cope and 100% bluepill thinking but yes of course there are exceptions. But here's the thing. There are maybe a few girls that would date you or marry you, but of that group, how many of them would stay? The problem with the the incel is if they get a GF they're going to orbit her like crazy, and the more interested you are in her, the less interested she is in you. So if you EVER manage to get a GF that loves you (which is highly unlikely for everyone on this site), she'll see how much you care and use it against you. There are 100,000 years of evolution where the children the girls had with the "nice guy" all died because they were weak pussies. We're talking about a time when 3/4 of men didn't reproduce at all, and a huge portion of the children that were produced died anyway. EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this earth right now was born from Chad and Stacy ancestors. The incels and the "good girls" all got eaten by fucking tigers.

 

[Zesto]

It's 100% cope and 100% bluepill thinking but yes of course there are exceptions. But here's the thing. There are maybe a few girls that would date you or marry you, but of that group, how many of them would stay? The problem with the the incel is if they get a GF they're going to orbit her like crazy, and the more interested you are in her, the less interested she is in you. So if you EVER manage to get a GF that loves you (which is highly unlikely for everyone on this site), she'll see how much you care and use it against you. There are 100,000 years of evolution where the children the girls had with the "nice guy" all died because they were weak pussies. We're talking about a time when 3/4 of men didn't reproduce at all, and a huge portion of the children that were produced died anyway. EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this earth right now was born from Chad and Stacy ancestors. The incels and the "good girls" all got eaten by fucking tigers.

We are now in that time once again.

 

[gookincel]

It's 100% cope and 100% bluepill thinking but yes of course there are exceptions. But here's the thing. There are maybe a few girls that would date you or marry you, but of that group, how many of them would stay? The problem with the the incel is if they get a GF they're going to orbit her like crazy, and the more interested you are in her, the less interested she is in you. So if you EVER manage to get a GF that loves you (which is highly unlikely for everyone on this site), she'll see how much you care and use it against you. There are 100,000 years of evolution where the children the girls had with the "nice guy" all died because they were weak pussies. We're talking about a time when 3/4 of men didn't reproduce at all, and a huge portion of the children that were produced died anyway. EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this earth right now was born from Chad and Stacy ancestors. The incels and the "good girls" all got eaten by fucking tigers.

That's a bit pessimistic man. I agree that real life isn't fairy tales but shouldn't we be keeping a positive outlook?

 

[CopeWithTheRope]

The idea of a married couple growing old together has eroded now. Only a very, very small percentage of women will stay with a man until his death.

You lost your job? She'll leave you.
You had an accident and got a disability? She'll leave you.
You age badly? She'll leave you.
She meets a younger, or better looking man? She's fucking leaving you buddy.

Brutalpill. So true though. It's in their primitive nature and today's climate allows for it to really shine through, thanks to our cucked society.

 

[IHateMySelf]

You will die alone anyway. There is no incel who can ascend.

 

[Gremlincel]

Fear not, dying alone is the most metal shit ever.

 

[mentalcel]

But you will. You better get used to it go go ER.

 

[rudolfhess]

That's a bit pessimistic man. I agree that real life isn't fairy tales but shouldn't we be keeping a positive outlook?

The blackpill is pessimistic. I suppose you can hold any view you like but you're straying into redpill Reddit territory which doesn't go over too well here because it's cope

 

[gookincel]

The blackpill is pessimistic. I suppose you can hold any view you like but you're straying into redpill Reddit territory which doesn't go over too well here because it's cope

I realise that blackpill is more about realism than optimism. I'm still in the swallowing phase. I might be blackpilled soon if things don't change

 

[Jockcel]

I wouldn't be here if I didn't crave love.

 

[Mik_TFL]

That's a bit pessimistic man. I agree that real life isn't fairy tales but shouldn't we be keeping a positive outlook?

As time progresses, you might come to the conclusion (as many here do) that it's over and LDAR is your only option.

I hereby propose a pragmatic outlook, which does have some positivism in it, while not being bluepilled:

Let's consider for a moment, that you might be ugly enough to be a true incel, that is, no amount reasonable statusmaxxing or looksmaxing will get you dates (personality only matters after you are in a LTR anyway).
Then the logical question follows: can life be worth it under the assumption that you'll never have a loving relationship involving a female?
If the answer is no, then you should kill yourself, it is only logical.
If the answer is yes, and I argue that it indeed can be, then the logical thing to do is to work towards increasing your happiness.

Here is where things get interesting, and pragmatism comes into play. It turns out that whether you are a truecel or just a mentalcel (or a MGTOW for that matter) is completely irrelevant as far as the actions to take in the future, because the vast majority of things that will bring you happiness also happen to increase whatever chances you might have with women. The big difference is the motivation behind it, If you go to the gym to improve you looks because you want to score a woman, and then don't score any, then you'll feel like shit because of it, but if instead you do it for yourself, then you'll feel good every time you reach a milestone within working out. Success in any area is what brings most men happiness, be it at work, or within a hobby or a sport.

So I conclude that you should work under the assumption that you don't have any chance with women whatsoever and just work in yourself for yourself, treat women like you would men, they don't deserve any special attention. If you happen to have been a mentalcel, you'll ascend automatically.

 

[gookincel]

As time progresses, you might come to the conclusion (as many here do) that it's over and LDAR is your only option.

I hereby propose a pragmatic outlook, which does have some positivism in it, while not being bluepilled:

Let's consider for a moment, that you might be ugly enough to be a true incel, that is, no amount reasonable statusmaxxing or looksmaxing will get you dates (personality only matters after you are in a LTR anyway).
Then the logical question follows: can life be worth it under the assumption that you'll never have a loving relationship involving a female?
If the answer is no, then you should kill yourself, it is only logical.
If the answer is yes, and I argue that it indeed can be, then the logical thing to do is to work towards increasing your happiness.

Here is where things get interesting, and pragmatism comes into play. It turns out that whether you are a truecel or just a mentalcel (or a MGTOW for that matter) is completely irrelevant as far as the actions to take in the future, because the vast majority of things that will bring you happiness also happen to increase whatever chances you might have with women. The big difference is the motivation behind it, If you go to the gym to improve you looks because you want to score a woman, and then don't score any, then you'll feel like shit because of it, but if instead you do it for yourself, then you'll feel good every time you reach a milestone within working out. Success in any area is what brings most men happiness, be it at work, or within a hobby or a sport.

So I conclude that you should work under the assumption that you don't have any chance with women whatsoever and just work in yourself for yourself, treat women like you would men, they don't deserve any special attention. If you happen to have been a mentalcel, you'll ascend automatically.

Thanks for the reply man. But I am in a stage where I want a girl so bad in my life. I can't ignore them and if any is polite to me it makes my day. I might be a bit weak/beta but I am not strong enough to ignore/forget about women.

 

[Mik_TFL]

Thanks for the reply man. But I am in a stage where I want a girl so bad in my life. I can't ignore them and if any is polite to me it makes my day. I might be a bit weak/beta but I am not strong enough to ignore/forget about women.

Doesn't really change a thing, acting beta is definitely counterproductive. You need to work on yourself regardless of your chances. I might suggest lucid dreaming as a temporary solution though, It got me going for about 8 years before I really felt like I needed the validation of a real person, I'm more of a tfl guy than an incel tbh.

 

[Anger]

I've accepted my fate a while ago, i will die totally alone and i want it to be this way.

 

[Mik_TFL]

I've accepted my fate a while ago, i will die totally alone and i want it to be this way.

this guy gets it.

 

[PleaseKillMeLoseSkin]

We all die alone, and afraid.

 

[ADD Sufferer]

Nobody does, our options are very limited though. I don't know about you but I can't even imagine old women be more welcoming to incels, our lives are gonna be a painfull journey towards the grave I'm afraid.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Sometimes this topic comes into my mind and I continue to think about it for hours before I get drunk and fall asleep. I just want a girl who'll love me for who I am. I have no preferences. If she loved me I would be happy. But I feel what if that never happens? What if I never get a girl. I don't know what I am going to do. I don't want to miss all those emotions that other people in relationships experience. I can't even accept the thought of dying without kissing a girl.

I have tried so much, what more should I do? I know this isn't really a place to ask for self improvement but nobody irl understands it. I have tried improving my dressing sense, getting haircuts that suits my face, developing hobbies, respecting women and not acting entitled etc but none of that worked so far. In fact guys who didn't do these things had better success than me. I just want a girl in my life.

Face it. You will. Like I will. Like all of us will.

 

[Stonehearted]

Very few, I know one, but she is taken. They all get taken as soon as they are made available.