What does it even mean beyond authoritarianism and nationalism. I know it was a direct reaction to the working classes arming themselves and seeking more political power. But it must have some ideological goal in mind too.
Will to power and saving Western civilization from slave morality.
That sounds like Nietzsche. Was he the father of fascist ideology.
what books are you reading? Fascism is the veterans of WW1 taking power in Italy after growing resentment from the Treaty of Saint-Germain
Read the doctrine of Fascism by Mussolini
Read the doctrine of Fascism by Mussolini
Yes, but not directly. He would not have approved of the populism of fascism and appeals to national "folk" culture, which he considered vulgar, but he would have preferred it to liberalism and communism. Nietzsche loved strong and decisive leadership, as evidenced by his praise of Julius Caesar and Napoleon.
Fascism is just a product of what happened when the veterans of the First World War returned home and saw the total decline of everything and everything. Communists were strong everywhere in the world after the October Revolution and they did everything possible to seize power. Italy has always had a strong communist party, and in Germany there was the Spartacus uprising as an attempt to seize power by force. In fact, fascism is just a reaction to communism and its horrors that occurred in Russia from 1918 to 1922.
Sounds cool in theory, but it probably wouldn't work in modern times.
So it is indeed a reaction to far left populism. This could explain why the liberal democrats flocked to fascists side. Otherwise they would've continued on with the horrors of 18th and 19th century colonialism.
Fascism is a specific emergent form of Liberalism that arises during times of capitalist crisis, it is a middle-class (Petite Bourgeoisie) movement that allies itself with the Bourgeoisie to maintain its dominance and subdue the Proletariat by force or promising concessions (reformism), in an effort to "resolve" capitalist crisis. Which obviously ultimately cannot be done due to the inbuilt tendencies within the capitalist mode of production.
Fascism enables the Bourgeoisie to diffuse political opposition through the ballot box (electoralism), creating the illusion of a “new” political leadership, which focuses on slightly different policy decisions to manage capitalism. In Fascist regimes, there is no illusory political separation between a political party and the state, all opposition to capital through economic or political struggleis effectively direct opposition to the state.
The goal of Fascism is class collaboration it aims to unite the Bourgeoisie and the Petite Bourgeoisie together. It also aims to use the Coops, Syndicates, and Nationalism to resolve the contradictions between the Bourgeoisie and the Proletariat. Hence why Social Democracy and the welfare state is just another form of Fascism. Which is Fascism can also be thought of as Democratic.
He helped instill some ideals & principles within Fascism & ofc later the NS, but it was just an influence on certain factors
Fascism in reality has existed for a long time, albeit in a different defined term
It absolutely could. DPRK and China are basically fascist already
Basically Fascism but from the Asiatic POV, should that make sense
chinese dont enjoy the pleasures of free speech and free press and they have to confine themselves to a certain part of the internet. DPRK well you know what the average citizen has to deal with
Well yes, authoritarianism and totalitarianism are important to secure the existence of the fascist state.
I support chinese and DPRK's foreign policy against globohomo, but domestically its not a place Id rather live in. I should be able to cope and say whatever I want without getting thought crimed like SJWs would do
Somebody has nevER read Peter Lieberman's magnum opus Does Conquest Pay? The Exploitation of Occupied Industrial Societies
Nor any of these books/academic papers:
Victorious and Vulnerable: Why Democracy Won in the 20th Century and How it is Still Imperiled
What's Nazi about Nazi Science? Recent Trends in the History of Science in Nazi Germany
Surviving the swastika: Scientific research in
Nazi Germany
On Comparisons between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Regime
And some other sources that I neglected to bookmark + forgot the title of
Facisism is dead, and probably won't come back in any form of government again.
It was an Italian philosophical movement that believed the state was the maintainer of morality, they believed in a corporatist(third position) economic system and they believed in preserving the nation (ie:the people indigenous to the country)
Fascism as a viable mass movement in the West is dead due to reasons I posted in this thread below, but there are other methods of state takeover, although far-fetched, that are theoretically possible
WE NEED FASCISM 2.0
WHY YOU THINK THAT WE HAVE MASS REPLACEMENT MIGRATION AND SUB-REPLACEMENT FERTILITY? IT'S BECAUSE OF FEMINISTS...THEY ARE JEALOUS, THEY ARE HOLDING US BACK I AM DRUNK AND ON A HIGHER LEVEL OF CONSCIOUSNESS...WE NEED TO HAVE THE ATTITUDE TOWARDS FEMINISTS THAT YE (FKA KANYE WEST) HAS TOWARDS...
incels.is
Of course, that is not to say a conspiracy organized by a small coalition of alienated political elites with covert backing from the army and certain financiers can't succeed in enacting a coupe against the ruling regime in America (since Europe is essentially a loose alliance that would collapse without American security guarantees, a fascist coupe will not be viable there)
After all, just because a mass movement with intellectual backing is unviable in today's age, doesn't mean a top down coupe planned by a handful of elites is completely out of the question...
A redux of a certain Business Plot perhaps
Business Plot - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Have you heard of Smedley Butler, the man chiefly responsible for mass inceldom?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot TLDR: Some of the richest businessmen and bankers in the country plotted to overthrow FDR and install retired General Smedley Butler as fascist dictator of the USA, but Smedley, being a cuck, ratted them all out to Congress. But but buh m- muh...
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National Socialism mogs, due to the fact Fascism places more power & emphasis on the State as opposed to NS which places more of a value on the "Volk"Fascism as a viable mass movement in the West is dead due to reasons I posted in this thread below, but there are other methods of state takeover, although far-fetched, are theoretically possible
WE NEED FASCISM 2.0
WHY YOU THINK THAT WE HAVE MASS REPLACEMENT MIGRATION AND SUB-REPLACEMENT FERTILITY? IT'S BECAUSE OF FEMINISTS...THEY ARE JEALOUS, THEY ARE HOLDING US BACK I AM DRUNK AND ON A HIGHER LEVEL OF CONSCIOUSNESS...WE NEED TO HAVE THE ATTITUDE TOWARDS FEMINISTS THAT YE (FKA KANYE WEST) HAS TOWARDS...
I support Authoritarianism tbh, if there's one thing I've learned, it's that society needs cohesion & order, while personal "freedom" often leads to degradation of it all
Fascism is based to take control over foids and get rid of the kike government.
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In short
Fascists support having an authoritarian government work together with corporations and junkers in order to solidify each other's power (a sort of you scratch my back I scratch yours type of thing) and crush any opposition to them, such as unions or foreigners (any avenue communists could infiltrate) It’s a form of Corporatism but on steroids.
Communists on the other hand support taking away the corporation owners and rich capital holder's property rights, instead transferring it to the people, some think it should be controlled through a state, others think the people should control the property (like land, factories, mines etc.) Directly through a network of cooperatives. The only wealthy the only enterprising and the only ones that own wealth are government bureaucrats!
I don't actually. Most I've been exposed to is US propaganda
I would say it depends. if its for example corporations being allowed to mistreat workers or foids being allowed to choose whoever they want then I agree. but I dont think theres anything to gain from enforcing thought crimes and it only allows the opposition to become stronger if people dislike the government
Mussolini turned fascism into this gay beast. It's actually an economic ideology where the state controls the means of production, ans since the nazis were socialists, they couldn't be fascist.
Wrong as fuck. Fascism is about taking power not some midwit economic theory, it's a revolutionary worldview.
LMAO at this, National Socialism is about taking power, it's the same worldview.
Please actually study political theory, because you have no clue what you're talking about. All you do is parrot leftoid talking points.Wrong as fuck. Fascism is about taking power not some midwit economic theory, it's a revolutionary worldview.
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