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I don’t think white people are actually the most attractive race. I think it’s culture and not biological.

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I think that the reason a lot of people including people, in other races, find white people attractive, is purely due to the way they are represented in media. All of the most well loved and popular characters in media are white or white-passing. This causes people to make the association that white = good, and not purely due to aesthetics. I mean it doesn’t make sense for Africans, that evolved to live in scorching heat, and benefit from melanated skin, to be attracted to lighter skin individuals.

I think this is the case, at least for me as a black guy, because when I was a kid growing up my favorite characters were all white people, making me think white people were inherently good. It made me think being white is a virtue inherently, because it’s the cause of good personality traits. I didn’t keep thinking that, but I genuinely believed that, at least subconsciously.

This might even be the case for furries as well. Maybe people into furries are a product of like-able furry characters, and thus they make a positive association with furry characters or designs? Maybe it’s the same thing with anime. Maybe there are uniquely likeable anime characters which leads you to make a positive association with the art-style.

People make positive and negative associations with superficial details, but it isn’t always purely biological. I know this is true because of my personal experience as a kid.

I mean you guys associate Indians with lack of hygiene. But what if you only met Indians that were neat freaks? Or that black people are violent. But what if you only meant gentle black people? The thing about the black pill is the idea that perception is purely biological, but it can also be taught and trained. You can learn to make positive associations with superficial characteristics.

Maybe thats’s one of the key elements of pair-bonding. Girls don’t just like guys simply for being good looking, but because they are great to be around for so many other reasons. They learn to make a positive association with their presence, and thus their looks, even if the looks themselves aren’t inherently gratifying. I bet you’ve learned to make negative associations with attractive women, if you see them as stuck up or rude, either through real life experience or their representation in media. Or you associate them with bad feelings like sexual frustration, or some other thing. That isn’t to say looks don’t give a massive advantage, but the black pill is very absolutist when it comes to looks. I think humans are more complicated than just desiring looks alone. At least some people.

Maybe you guys should stop promoting violence against women, because violence is bad. Nobody likes bad things happening to their body. And instead try to find ways to bring something positive, to increase people’s positive association with your superficial characteristics. I think it’s more effective than scaring people and making people think incels are terrorist ideologues, which regardless of whether it’s logical, is the effect being given by the forum. At the very least if you’re going negative, have clear boundaries people know not to cross to not cause issues.

What do you think about people making positive associations of less than gratifying superficial characteristics?

Do you think your boundaries are easy to not cross? Do looks make it more difficult for people to treat you with respect? And is it possible to make people respect you despite your looks?
 
Yeah, dudes here forget about social moments. Some of them could even call such posts a bluepill propaganda, I believe.
 
Yeah, dudes here forget about social moments. Some of them could even call such posts a bluepill propaganda, I believe.
Well why do you think being nice doesn’t create a positive association? You don’t have to be a cuck. Just make people like your presence in other ways. Even if it takes some effort think of it as a long term investment.

Also sometimes it’s not about getting everything but mitigating the way people treat you. If people treat you like shit, and it’s easy to not do it, than fight back. Make their life miserable for bothering you. There are a lot of normies that could bully but don’t because they are genuinely scared of consequences. And reward them for better behavior. That doesn’t mean they will give you everything, but it’s definitely better than the alternative. Just make the reward worth their time. I just wanted to point out something psychological. I think it’s worth looking into. Looks aren’t the only thing going on subconsciously in someone’s mind, but past experiences and superficial associations. I think it’s called “schema”?
 
Very true, but its not purely cultural either, there is a split of culture and biology at play. europeans are just taller and a lot of the times have better sexual dimorphism
Girls don’t just like guys simply for being good looking, but because they are great to be around for so many other reasons.
this part is highly bluepilled though, be careful, I think they might ban you for this. edit it out while you can
 
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Well why do you think being nice doesn’t create a positive association? You don’t have to be a cuck. Just make people like your presence in other ways. Even if it takes some effort think of it as a long term investment.

Also sometimes it’s not about getting everything but mitigating the way people treat you. If people treat you like shit, and it’s easy to not do it, than fight back. Make their life miserable for bothering you. There are a lot of normies that could bully but don’t because they are genuinely scared of consequences. And reward them for better behavior. That doesn’t mean they will give you everything, but it’s definitely better than the alternative. Just make the reward worth their time. I just wanted to point out something psychological. I think it’s worth looking into. Looks aren’t the only thing going on subconsciously in someone’s mind, but past experiences and superficial associations. I think it’s called “schema”?
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Very true, but its not purely cultural either, there is a split of culture and biology at play. europeans are just taller and a lot of the times have better sexual dimorphism
Yeah I’m saying it’s a combination. Biology is underrated, but the cultural aspect matters as well. It’s important to break things down into elements so you can see what’s in your control and what isn’t. It makes things more manageable. This is all about mitigating issues.

The good thing about her psychological angle is that not everyone is aware of these things. You can take advantage. That’s why I’m saying it’s worth looking into. You don’t think people in the media know this and exploit this?
 
Very true, but its not purely cultural either, there is a split of culture and biology at play. europeans are just taller and a lot of the times have better sexual dimorphism
Yeah I’m saying it’s a combination. The cultural aspect matters as well. It’s important to break things down into elements so you can see what’s in your control and what isn’t. It makes things more manageable. This is all about mitigating issues.
 
This The good thing about her psychological angle is that not everyone is aware of these things. You can take advantage. That’s why I’m saying it’s worth looking into. You don’t think people in the media know this and exploit this?
I read somewhere that the perception of attractiveness is affected by the frequency at which an individual sees attractive/unnattractive faces.

The brutal thing for this generation (and I guess every generation since television) is that we're constantly bombarded by attractive faces through social media, movies, and so on. This is the most underrated cause of inceldom in my opinion.
 
Well why do you think being nice doesn’t create a positive association? You don’t have to be a cuck. Just make people like your presence in other ways. Even if it takes some effort think of it as a long term investment.

Also sometimes it’s not about getting everything but mitigating the way people treat you. If people treat you like shit, and it’s easy to not do it, than fight back. Make their life miserable for bothering you. There are a lot of normies that could bully but don’t because they are genuinely scared of consequences. And reward them for better behavior. That doesn’t mean they will give you everything, but it’s definitely better than the alternative. Just make the reward worth their time. I just wanted to point out something psychological. I think it’s worth looking into. Looks aren’t the only thing going on subconsciously in someone’s mind, but past experiences and superficial associations. I think it’s called “schema”?
I'm not a doomer, though. I never said being nice is always cucked and useless
 
I think that the reason a lot of people including people, in other races, find white people attractive, is purely due to the way they are represented in media. All of the most well loved and popular characters in media are white or white-passing. This causes people to make the association that white = good, and not purely due to aesthetics. I mean it doesn’t make sense for Africans, that evolved to live in scorching heat, and benefit from melanated skin, to be attracted to lighter skin individuals.

I think this is the case, at least for me as a black guy, because when I was a kid growing up my favorite characters were all white people, making me think white people were inherently good. It made me think being white is a virtue inherently, because it’s the cause of good personality traits. I didn’t keep thinking that, but I genuinely believed that, at least subconsciously.

This might even be the case for furries as well. Maybe people into furries are a product of like-able furry characters, and thus they make a positive association with furry characters or designs? Maybe it’s the same thing with anime. Maybe there are uniquely likeable anime characters which leads you to make a positive association with the art-style.

People make positive and negative associations with superficial details, but it isn’t always purely biological. I know this is true because of my personal experience as a kid.

I mean you guys associate Indians with lack of hygiene. But what if you only met Indians that were neat freaks? Or that black people are violent. But what if you only meant gentle black people? The thing about the black pill is the idea that perception is purely biological, but it can also be taught and trained. You can learn to make positive associations with superficial characteristics.

Maybe thats’s one of the key elements of pair-bonding. Girls don’t just like guys simply for being good looking, but because they are great to be around for so many other reasons. They learn to make a positive association with their presence, and thus their looks, even if the looks themselves aren’t inherently gratifying. I bet you’ve learned to make negative associations with attractive women, if you see them as stuck up or rude, either through real life experience or their representation in media. Or you associate them with bad feelings like sexual frustration, or some other thing. That isn’t to say looks don’t give a massive advantage, but the black pill is very absolutist when it comes to looks. I think humans are more complicated than just desiring looks alone. At least some people.

Maybe you guys should stop promoting violence against women, because violence is bad. Nobody likes bad things happening to their body. And instead try to find ways to bring something positive, to increase people’s positive association with your superficial characteristics. I think it’s more effective than scaring people and making people think incels are terrorist ideologues, which regardless of whether it’s logical, is the effect being given by the forum. At the very least if you’re going negative, have clear boundaries people know not to cross to not cause issues.

What do you think about people making positive associations of less than gratifying superficial characteristics?

Do you think your boundaries are easy to not cross? Do looks make it more difficult for people to treat you with respect? And is it possible to make people respect you despite your looks?
Attraction depends on genes thats why, whites are only most attractive usually to other whites, unless its social stuff
 
I read somewhere that the perception of attractiveness is affected by the frequency at which an individual sees attractive/unnattractive faces.

The brutal thing for this generation (and I guess every generation since television) is that we're constantly bombarded by attractive faces through social media, movies, and so on. This is the most underrated cause of inceldom in my opinion.
I believe uglies who live in cities full of ugly people have it easier than others. Of course it depends on how much girls in their town consume social media.

I maybe will try to bang someone in rural area because there's a thing in my country that rural folks are focused on work and don't pay too much time to media. Rural girls usually are associated with lower standards here.
 
I believe uglies who live in cities full of ugly people have it easier than others. Of course it depends on how much girls in their town consume social media.

I maybe will try to bang someone in rural area because there's a thing in my country that rural folks are focused on work and don't pay too much time to media. Rural girls usually are associated with lower standards here.
The thing about social media though, is that people on social media are 2D. They aren’t physically interactable. There is a real life element missing, that can be provided by someone more local. Unless those girls on social media aren’t literally being flown out, and their lifestyles aren’t being catered to, there is still a chance with making a positive association.

This is why geomaxxing in sea works. Even though the women there have social media, they aren’t actually having a lifestyle shift by those attractive dudes.

And let’s say that they ARE being flown out by these rich chads. Why are they rich in the first place? There is an angle for equity here when it comes to finance. This is why I find the red pill more interesting than the black pill currently. I think elites are more scared of the red pill than the black pill, because it means men are actually competing for their wealth and influence.
 
You don't think. Period.
 
The thing about social media though, is that people on social media are 2D. They aren’t physically interactable. There is a real life element missing, that can be provided by someone more local. Unless those girls on social media aren’t literally being flown out, and their lifestyles aren’t being catered to, there is still a chance with making a positive association.

This is why geomaxxing in sea works. Even though the women there have social media, they aren’t actually having a lifestyle shift by those attractive dudes.

And let’s say that they ARE being flown out by these rich chads. Why are they rich in the first place? There is an angle for equity here when it comes to finance. This is why I find the red pill more interesting than the black pill currently. I think elites are more scared of the red pill than the black pill, because it means men are actually competing for their wealth and influence.
You give interesting points but most people won't pay attention.
 

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