My condolences you seem like a nice guy tbh
RageFuel I don't think the mentalcels here appreciate what it's like to be a 100% lookism-victim and to prove the bluepill wrong
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You too. I'll message you about that hair stuff tomorrow, just been busy watching animu lately.
I think I know what surgeon I want (Erdogan). My dad showed me this clinic in my home country and was like "why don't you get your hair transplant there? It seems good and you don't have to travel to Turkey." I tried to explain to him that there are no hair experts in little Norway, that's why lol. Looked into the clinic he found and just negative reviews, lol.
Yeah let me know, what anime you watching?
Any recommendations ?
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Bakemonogatari. I've got mixed feelings about it, but it's decent enough.
You've probably watched these: Death Note, Code Geass.
My favorite: Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.
I also just started reading a manga about some guy who rents a gf (lol):
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Kanojo-Okarishimasu/Ch-001
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Try being ugly and having schizophrenia, its JFL when incels who are only ugly try to make mental illness seem like its nothing, that mental illness doesnt mean shit. You can live a normal life while being ugly, you cant do that when you have a mental illness. If youre truly blackpilled you would stop focusing on trying to find a women and try to make the most out of the life you have. Prove IT and those who mock us wrong, show them that we are more than NEETs and Basement Dwellers.
BEING A MENTALCEL IS PURE HELL! I'VE BEEN CALLED GOOD LOOKING BY SEVERAL FOIDS. I WAS IN THE BAR TALKING TO A 6.4490430 QT BLONDE FOID. I COULDN'T UTTER THE WORDS TO SPEAK TO HER. ALL I COULD SAY WAS "COPE" AND "ROPE". MY UGLY ETHNIC GYMAXXED 5'3" MANLET FRIEND CAME AND STARTED CHATTING HER UP BEING SMOOTH AS FUCK. TALKING ABOUT STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS N SHIT. HE GOT HER NUMBER AND A WINK. BEING NT IS EVERYTHING. LOOKS THEORY DESTROYED!
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As a legit autist, no they're not.
Attractive autists definitely get laid. Schizos will as long as they don't freak out too much in public.[/USER][/QUOTE]
Dude, when you think you're mentalcel, you're either
- Coping truecel
- Waiting for a landwhale to be dick hungry and desperate enough to deal with your retardation
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I wish I was a mentalcel
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I honestly HATE the mentalcels.
Maybe not autistic people, cause normies will be rough on them.
But depressed losers with normie tier looks claiming to be incels due to looks should just rope now.
Bet you're 18 y/o, 6/10 face, 5'7.5 and a bit saaaad
Maybe not autistic people, cause normies will be rough on them.
But depressed losers with normie tier looks claiming to be incels due to looks should just rope now.
What you got then?
Bet you're 18 y/o, 6/10 face, 5'7.5 and a bit saaaad
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My god you're fucking retarded.
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Incel = never had sex and will never get it. That's my definition.
you can only be incel due to location/looks so anyone claiming theyre incel because of anxiety are trolls
Truecels report.
They don't think they're chadlite. They have BDD. There are some guys here where it has been proven that they can get Tinder matches, but they still insist that they're incel. There are some mentalcels here who LARP as incel here, but on discord, confess that they rejected a girl in class or because they're religious!
The only mentalcels I have a soft-spot for are diagnosed autists. The mentalcels who are like: "I can't be bothered to do anything but LDAR. I'm a mentalcel" would soon get inspiration to do something with their lives if their parents told them to find their own place to live.
So you've never been out with friends and approached women before? I did that for a decade. And people here act like I have put herculean effort into getting a gf. If you have no friends to go out with, I can see how going to a nightclub on your own to approach girls would be hard.
BUT, you should at least be able to see that an uglycel like me, who has done 100s of IRL approaches since 2001 is in a different boat to a mentalcel 21 yo who has never spoken to a woman before because of anxiety.
Which is what IncelTears and bluepillers say is the problem that we ALL have. Their advice only helps MENTALCELS and then only a subset of them and only to an extent, but it does not help lookscels one iota.
@Gyros_Pretcel Diagnosed autists and schizos are the only true mentalcels. The common mentalcel here though is 5/10, can't speak to women because of low-self esteem ( @Facade -tier guys) and anxiety, they never talk about rejections or their looks, they're too scared to make a Tinder cuz if they get matches because of their LOOKS but then fuck up the conversation because of their PERSONALITY then that would give them cognitive dissonance and be triggering to them.
The average mentalcel here (not the diagnosed autists here), there is no yardstick to measure their inceldom by. Lemme explain.
1) Lookscels: you can measure our inceldom by our ugly traits: long philtrum, manlet height (if sub5 too), balding, etc.
2) Diagnosed mentalcels: you can measure their inceldom because of their NAMED condition: autism, etc.
3) The common mentalcel here - the goalposts move too much. They will say that mentalceldom is worse than looksceldom. When you point out to them that low-self esteem doesn't make one incel, then they will start to LARP as if they're ugly as well as mental. But how do you measure the inceldom of someone who doesn't have a diagnosis? "I am a mentalcel because I act aspie at times and don't have friends". How do you measure that? Then these are the guys who post on IT like: "I used to be incel guise but I left the basement once, put myself out there, got approached and life took off!!!".
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You missed my point but I don't blame cuz I said it wrong. Re: 90%+ - I wasn't referring to times, but to cause:
Between 90-100% of the CAUSE of my rejection is looks. But I can readily admit that there may be situations where looks were, say 98% of the cause and the other 2% was due to not being hyper outgoing, thuggish, high-status, etc. Example: female friends or social circle. But that 2% - how am I meant to be outgoing, confident, thuggish, and what have you if I've always been shot down my whole life? I can't even overcompensate for my lack of looks with a super amazing personality (rather than a normal one) because my personality is the product of my rejections, teasing, etc.
But usually, my looks are 100% the cause, particularly in cold-approach/online-dating.
@Bagelcel @CopingGymcel
An OK looking guy who had sex can become incel if he ages bad/gets fat.
The definition of incel for me is someone whose current quality of life is noticeably hindered by his looks.
Bruh I fucked 20 women in my youth but now I got fat and aged badly so I'm totally an incel like you guys.
You are a mentalcel, high iq thread but I dont see why you are the one posting it.
it's over over 9000
I just read a thread where a guy claimed to have been molested as a child. At a certain point I can't hate a mentalcel (anxiety).
Okay, so I'm a 5/10 mentalcel (with a womanly frame) but I also agree with a lot of @FACEandLMS 's OP and think he's one of the best posters around here. My response:
The stuff about surgery and points 1-2 I mostly agree with and I feel a lot of sympathy for facecels and know that I'll never be able to experience what they do. I did think this was funny, though:
Well, speaking and socialising are pretty important! You're not going to ascend without doing those, and inability to do them, or do them well, limits how much status you can gain, how much money you can get, what career you can do, how many meaningful and nurturing relationships with friends and for some people even family you can form.
I do feel for you, FLMS, because you seem like a good guy who has a pretty successful life other than Inceldom and who has tried a lot to improve his life. Whatever non-NT traits you have now do seem to have arisen from your inceldom which, in turn, results pretty much exclusively from your face. That seems incredibly "unjust", if justice is even a concept that can be applied for this. However, I don't know that all or most facecels are like this since looks and personality are entwined. You already show a degree of bitterness due to the way you are treated because of your looks (not saying that bitterness is unwarranted). Other, less stable, facecels might well develop more off-putting personalities as a result of their treatment.
But I would also say that your personality is not at all easy to change, especially after a certain age (mid-20s or so), and some aspects of it might be basically unchangeable. For me, I have had basically the same kind of personality and positive and negative traits and tendencies since I was a kid (I'm 30 now). Even when your personality does change, it's often outside of your control and not necessarily in the way you would like. So the bluepilled advice is just as useless to a mentalcel as to a facecel, even if to you it has the added issue of being offensive.
Lol, I agree with this, though most of it doesn't apply to me -- I have a job and my own flat, am hygienic and self-sufficient, and have reasonably normal relationships with my co-workers and some of my family members. Mentalcels who say that "women only want CHAD; no point in improving my personality" are definitely coping to a significant extent, particularly if they have all of the issues you mention (NEET, pissing in bottles, can barely open their mouths). But the real personalitypill is that a lot of your behaviours and attitudes of mind, especially after a certain age, are hardwired anyway. So even if mentalcels accepted that their deficient personalities are the issue, or a major issue, they wouldn't be able to do much about it.
To this, I would add that you didn't mention several ways in which mentalceldom really does negatively affect your SMV:
1) Lowers your status pretty much directly by a large amount. Women are obsessed with status.
2) Hinders your chance to get a good social circle, which is a way that people meet women and has consoling benefits anyway even if you remain incel.
3) Hinders your ability to develop a good career, and therefore to moneymaxx.
Foids have a way of sniffing out non-NTness and brutally rejecting or insulting men who are even tinged with it. For me, it's relatively easy to get first dates through dating apps (although becoming less so as I get older), but do you think that those first dates turn into second and third dates? Of course not. And I have precisely 0% chance of ever meeting a woman offline.
Basically, this comes down to two questions:
How much can you change your personality?
How much does personality matter in finding a mate?
I would say "not much, especially after childhood" to the first one.To the second, I would say "quite a lot". People think that saying personality matters is cucked because it's used by bluepillers to say/imply that if you're nice and agreeable to a woman and make them laugh or whatever you will be okay. That's not it. Rather, personality matters inasmuch as it reflects an ability to get women what they want -- status, money, protection -- and therefore to fulfill your evolutionary purpose. That's why Jeremy Meeks doesn't "disprove" the personality theory. Because his personality is actually one of the kinds that women, especially certain type of women, want: masculine, high-status, low-inhib, and in need of "reform" (plays into women's nurturing instincts).
The stuff about surgery and points 1-2 I mostly agree with and I feel a lot of sympathy for facecels and know that I'll never be able to experience what they do. I did think this was funny, though:
Well, speaking and socialising are pretty important! You're not going to ascend without doing those, and inability to do them, or do them well, limits how much status you can gain, how much money you can get, what career you can do, how many meaningful and nurturing relationships with friends and for some people even family you can form.
I do feel for you, FLMS, because you seem like a good guy who has a pretty successful life other than Inceldom and who has tried a lot to improve his life. Whatever non-NT traits you have now do seem to have arisen from your inceldom which, in turn, results pretty much exclusively from your face. That seems incredibly "unjust", if justice is even a concept that can be applied for this. However, I don't know that all or most facecels are like this since looks and personality are entwined. You already show a degree of bitterness due to the way you are treated because of your looks (not saying that bitterness is unwarranted). Other, less stable, facecels might well develop more off-putting personalities as a result of their treatment.
But I would also say that your personality is not at all easy to change, especially after a certain age (mid-20s or so), and some aspects of it might be basically unchangeable. For me, I have had basically the same kind of personality and positive and negative traits and tendencies since I was a kid (I'm 30 now). Even when your personality does change, it's often outside of your control and not necessarily in the way you would like. So the bluepilled advice is just as useless to a mentalcel as to a facecel, even if to you it has the added issue of being offensive.
Lol, I agree with this, though most of it doesn't apply to me -- I have a job and my own flat, am hygienic and self-sufficient, and have reasonably normal relationships with my co-workers and some of my family members. Mentalcels who say that "women only want CHAD; no point in improving my personality" are definitely coping to a significant extent, particularly if they have all of the issues you mention (NEET, pissing in bottles, can barely open their mouths). But the real personalitypill is that a lot of your behaviours and attitudes of mind, especially after a certain age, are hardwired anyway. So even if mentalcels accepted that their deficient personalities are the issue, or a major issue, they wouldn't be able to do much about it.
To this, I would add that you didn't mention several ways in which mentalceldom really does negatively affect your SMV:
1) Lowers your status pretty much directly by a large amount. Women are obsessed with status.
2) Hinders your chance to get a good social circle, which is a way that people meet women and has consoling benefits anyway even if you remain incel.
3) Hinders your ability to develop a good career, and therefore to moneymaxx.
Foids have a way of sniffing out non-NTness and brutally rejecting or insulting men who are even tinged with it. For me, it's relatively easy to get first dates through dating apps (although becoming less so as I get older), but do you think that those first dates turn into second and third dates? Of course not. And I have precisely 0% chance of ever meeting a woman offline.
Basically, this comes down to two questions:
How much can you change your personality?
How much does personality matter in finding a mate?
I would say "not much, especially after childhood" to the first one.To the second, I would say "quite a lot". People think that saying personality matters is cucked because it's used by bluepillers to say/imply that if you're nice and agreeable to a woman and make them laugh or whatever you will be okay. That's not it. Rather, personality matters inasmuch as it reflects an ability to get women what they want -- status, money, protection -- and therefore to fulfill your evolutionary purpose. That's why Jeremy Meeks doesn't "disprove" the personality theory. Because his personality is actually one of the kinds that women, especially certain type of women, want: masculine, high-status, low-inhib, and in need of "reform" (plays into women's nurturing instincts).
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Why is this guy always so salty?
I'd rather be an autistic chad then an ugly manlet.
"Mentalcel" the biggest meme on this site.
I agree. But being rejected when you speak and socialize with people is different from being pre-emptively rejected. I, as a blackpilled non-mentalcel, facecel, can pick up on these pre-emptive rejections. I no longer need to approach women to know that they wish I would get leukemia and fuck off. Their face and body language says it all.
Somewhat true, but, you made the common IncelTears assumption that women in bars, on the train, online, etc, can pick up on my incels.is post-history before they reject me; that my bitterness is INSTANTLY noticeable from the getgo. I mean, if women reject me ON SIGHT, then my bitter personality must be EVEN MORE NOTICEABLE than my face, right? When women look at me and have the "eeeww" face, that must be because my bitterness was evident first, then my looks, because reasons.
Not really. The mentalcels who are too scared to talk to women and who believe that every single woman only wants to date Bateman and Lachowski DO need to listen to the bluepilled advice. Those here who are too mentalcel to have ever done more than a handful of approaches DO need to listen to the BP advice. Not even 9/10 PUAs like...forgot his name... get 100% success-rate from cold approach. Prime 40 yo Brad Pitt couldn't get 100% of the women on earth. Some women would reject him due to age, because they don't feel worthy, etc. Rejection is to be expected. 100% rejection is not.
Because I've done 100s of approaches, am ugly and have racked up 3 decades of rejection. If you were legit incel, and as old as me, you would be salty too. You're probably 21 yo, white, NW1, 5/10 and a mentalcel who hasn't approached more than 4 women before. Obviously, our outlook and experiences will differ.
You talking about me?
Good excuse for necro
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Face hasn't streamed in 2 weeks, when he said he would last Sat. I think he roped
Mentalcels are coping delusionalfags.
It's easy to accept "IM JUST QUIRKEY AND 2 SMART FOR GIRLS", it's hard to accept you are an outcast because you're ugly.
It's easy to accept "IM JUST QUIRKEY AND 2 SMART FOR GIRLS", it's hard to accept you are an outcast because you're ugly.
Mentalcels = fakecels/failed normies, it is low IQ to even dispute this. Good thread btw
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Hey he was saying my username in his entire post how won't I necro this?
Of course
He was clearly speaking specifically about you two years ago.
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