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Blackpill I don’t get how people can be religious ESPECIALLY incels

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How can you believe there is a moral God out there lying somewhere in the universe? Let’s not talk about normies now , those are excluded because as my past experience debating genetic determinism with religious normies I’ve seen a pattern. They never go deep into researching and learning about their religion meaning they’re just ignorant and they were all born into the religion they believe in meaning they never even choose what to believe in.
- I was surprised to see that theres so called “incels” that believe in religion. how can you call yourself an “incel” if you are religious ? It clearly means you can’t comprehend the idea of genetic determinism and your not even blackpilled lmao the amount of cognitive dissonance it would take is absurdly high.
I’ll take about the 3 common copes people use against it cause surprisingly enough I’ve never heard any better
Argument other than fallacies.
Before I start saying anything we can both agree on the fact that :
-God creates everything
-God foreknows everything
-God can prevent everything
Nice if you agreed this is exactly what your book under Christianity or whatever cope you believe in.

-As we know sexual selection,facial attractiveness, height, symmetry, hormones,voice,posture,health,IQ,personality traits and predisposed confidence or shyness etc are ALL biological traits given before any choices are made. None of these are chosen or earned yet they determine our whole lives: social status,dating outcomes,bullying likelihood,loneliness,confidence,self worth,mental health,career opportunities,happiness trajectory etc

-So if God designed biology then God created lookism as a social hierarchy. God is a lookist

1, “ it’s just a test bro” Alr bro picture this: 2 ppl born with opposite genetics are not playing the same game. one gets love,affection,validation and the other gets loneliness,bullying,rejection,humiliation,resentment.

-But God created the SAME biological desires (love,affection,connection,sex) yet one is biologically blocked from fulfilling them. That’s not a test nigga that’s a setup. A test implies: fairness,equal opportunity and same rules.

2,”God doesn’t care about outward appearance!!!” But humans do ? And God made them that way so God is a lookist.

3, “Bro those instincts are not from God it’s from Satan” JFL if you think this you are a satanist . Let me explain human nature is biological This applies to EVERYBODY and if you believe in what I quoted you are accepting the fact that devil has more control over humans than God does so what is God even responsible of at that point ? Clouds and rainbows ? Lmao You’re literally implying Devil is the creator of humans cause those instincts are what make humans, humans.
-humans react to what’s happening to them if someone is getting
bullied,rejected,isolated,shamed for years and years on their worldview will inevitably shift towards: nihilism, resentment etc and God will punish him for that
- So he creates ppl to suffer and judge them like they had a choice over their suffering and puts them in ETERNAL HELL. Like earth wasn’t already bad enough for a incel ? This is literally the epitome of evil you can’t name one single character that has done a more evil deed like this
- what’s brutal is even HEAVEN doesn’t solve it. By religious textbooks he won’t even go to heaven cause of actions he did or the way he thinks which might seem “sinful” for the privileged man but in Reality it’s just reactions too his life even if God chooses to “reward” him with heaven it means nothing because reward only works if it matches his desire.The whole idea of heaven is built around the idea that : life is good, consciousness is good, eternal life is desirable
But for many who suffer nonexistence is the reward. Religious people don’t get this because they project their own desires.
You can’t call heaven a gift when the person:didn’t choose to exist, didn’t choose the suffering he
endured, didn’t choose his biology, didn’t choose his worldview deterministically formed, he doesn’t choose eternal continuation

HEAVEN SUMMARIZED FOR INCELS:
“You lost at the game I forced you to play because of the rules I rigged
judged by the standards I defined
and your consolation prize is eternal life you don’t want”
- I could go over different arguments for hours but this is the most common I’ve heard so ig it appeals to majority
 
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If god exists he's evil
 
Some people are just grasping at straws and when their lives obviously lack any relevant source of hope, religion is the last resort.
 
dnr, either way if God exist he's a psycopath sadistic murderer
 
Many here are still religious and I don't understand.
 
-So if God designed biology then God created lookism as a social hierarchy. God is a lookist
Yes. Looks is an unnecessary social hierarchy, a benevolent god would create a bluepilled fantasy of existence.
 
Prayer is useful in times of emergency. But it is not practical for an incel to be a devout follower of religion.
 
If I could believe in God, I would.
 
most people are retarded :smonk: g*d was a good cope until it stopped keeping femroaches in check
 
The whole point of faith is the emphasis on the afterlife instead of this transitory life, so using our condition in this life as a metric for God's favour doesn't make much sense, but regardless...
One's ability to reach heaven is not tied to their physical attributes. If you see life from a religious perspective, inceldom can even be a blessing in disguise, you're not able to fall to the depths of debauchery and conformity with this mundane life the way a normie does, exactly because God gave them these "privileges": an easy, fulfilled mundane life, while he took what makes man enthralled to this world away from you. The thought process is that the believer suffers on Earth temporarily to be rewarded with eternal pleasure, the disbeliever is misled by ephemeral pleasures only to suffer eternally.
The whole idea of heaven is built around the idea that : life is good, consciousness is good, eternal life is desirable
Life WILL be good, consciousness WILL be good if all your (pure) desires are constantly fulfilled. You hate existing and suffer so much because none of your desires are fulfilled, in heaven, they would. The concept of heaven is void of suffering, never-ending ecstasy, to have the mere chance to experience it is a gift, and the life you were given is the chance.
God created the SAME biological desires (love,affection,connection,sex) yet one is biologically blocked from fulfilling them
So? The test has nothing to do with who can fulfill biological desires or not... it's about transcending them, transcending this life and its illusions
humans react to what’s happening to them if someone is getting
bullied,rejected,isolated,shamed for years and years on their worldview will inevitably shift towards: nihilism, resentment
God won't punish anyone for feeling resentment if that resentment is rightfully driven, unless the outcome of your resentment is blaming God and not the shamelessly sinful people, godless society surrounding you, including most people that claim to obey God but do anything but, in reality.
Resentment towards evil is not punishable, it's prescribed, hating for the sake what is good is part of faith
 
The whole point of faith is the emphasis on the afterlife instead of this transitory life, so using our condition in this life as a metric for God's favour doesn't make much sense, but regardless...
One's ability to reach heaven is not tied to their physical attributes. If you see life from a religious perspective, inceldom can even be a blessing in disguise, you're not able to fall to the depths of debauchery and conformity with this mundane life the way a normie does, exactly because God gave them these "privileges": an easy, fulfilled mundane life, while he took what makes man enthralled to this world away from you. The thought process is that the believer suffers on Earth temporarily to be rewarded with eternal pleasure, the disbeliever is misled by ephemeral pleasures only to suffer eternally.

Life WILL be good, consciousness WILL be good if all your (pure) desires are constantly fulfilled. You hate existing and suffer so much because none of your desires are fulfilled, in heaven, they would. The concept of heaven is void of suffering, never-ending ecstasy, to have the mere chance to experience it is a gift, and the life you were given is the chance.

So? The test has nothing to do with who can fulfill biological desires or not... it's about transcending them, transcending this life and its illusions

God won't punish anyone for feeling resentment if that resentment is rightfully driven, unless the outcome of your resentment is blaming God and not the shamelessly sinful people, godless society surrounding you, including most people that claim to obey God but do anything but, in reality.
Resentment towards evil is not punishable, it's prescribed, hating for the sake what is good
The whole point of faith is the emphasis on the afterlife instead of this transitory life, so using our condition in this life as a metric for God's favour doesn't make much sense, but regardless...
One's ability to reach heaven is not tied to their physical attributes. If you see life from a religious perspective, inceldom can even be a blessing in disguise, you're not able to fall to the depths of debauchery and conformity with this mundane life the way a normie does, exactly because God gave them these "privileges": an easy, fulfilled mundane life, while he took what makes man enthralled to this world away from you. The thought process is that the believer suffers on Earth temporarily to be rewarded with eternal pleasure, the disbeliever is misled by ephemeral pleasures only to suffer eternally.

Life WILL be good, consciousness WILL be good if all your (pure) desires are constantly fulfilled. You hate existing and suffer so much because none of your desires are fulfilled, in heaven, they would. The concept of heaven is void of suffering, never-ending ecstasy, to have the mere chance to experience it is a gift, and the life you were given is the chance.

So? The test has nothing to do with who can fulfill biological desires or not... it's about transcending them, transcending this life and its illusions

God won't punish anyone for feeling resentment if that resentment is rightfully driven, unless the outcome of your resentment is blaming God and not the shamelessly sinful people, godless society surrounding you, including most people that claim to obey God

The whole point of faith is the emphasis on the afterlife instead of this transitory life, so using our condition in this life as a metric for God's favour doesn't make much sense, but regardless...
One's ability to reach heaven is not tied to their physical attributes. If you see life from a religious perspective, inceldom can even be a blessing in disguise, you're not able to fall to the depths of debauchery and conformity with this mundane life the way a normie does, exactly because God gave them these "privileges": an easy, fulfilled mundane life, while he took what makes man enthralled to this world away from you. The thought process is that the believer suffers on Earth temporarily to be rewarded with eternal pleasure, the disbeliever is misled by ephemeral pleasures only to suffer eternally.

Life WILL be good, consciousness WILL be good if all your (pure) desires are constantly fulfilled. You hate existing and suffer so much because none of your desires are fulfilled, in heaven, they would. The concept of heaven is void of suffering, never-ending ecstasy, to have the mere chance to experience it is a gift, and the life you were given is the chance.

So? The test has nothing to do with who can fulfill biological desires or not... it's about transcending them, transcending this life and its illusions

God won't punish anyone for feeling resentment if that resentment is rightfully driven, unless the outcome of your resentment is blaming God and not the shamelessly sinful people, godless society surrounding you, including most people that claim to obey God but do anything but, in reality.
Resentment towards evil is not punishable, it's prescribed, hating for the sake what is good is part of faith
Life isn’t a test when what you can do, who you can love, and how much you suffer is determined by biology, genetics, and environment. Giving everyone the same desires but making some people biologically incapable of fulfilling them isn’t a trial, it’s cruelty. Heaven doesn’t erase the agony of existing in a body and life that’s stacked against you. Resentment or nihilism aren’t moral failings they’re deterministic outcomes of circumstances and Saying “it’s a blessing in disguise” is just mental gymnastics to excuse suffering God designed not a real justification never will be its fucking hell
 
The whole point of faith is the emphasis on the afterlife instead of this transitory life, so using our condition in this life as a metric for God's favour doesn't make much sense, but regardless...
One's ability to reach heaven is not tied to their physical attributes. If you see life from a religious perspective, inceldom can even be a blessing in disguise, you're not able to fall to the depths of debauchery and conformity with this mundane life the way a normie does, exactly because God gave them these "privileges": an easy, fulfilled mundane life, while he took what makes man enthralled to this world away from you. The thought process is that the believer suffers on Earth temporarily to be rewarded with eternal pleasure, the disbeliever is misled by ephemeral pleasures only to suffer eternally.

Life WILL be good, consciousness WILL be good if all your (pure) desires are constantly fulfilled. You hate existing and suffer so much because none of your desires are fulfilled, in heaven, they would. The concept of heaven is void of suffering, never-ending ecstasy, to have the mere chance to experience it is a gift, and the life you were given is the chance.

So? The test has nothing to do with who can fulfill biological desires or not... it's about transcending them, transcending this life and its illusions

God won't punish anyone for feeling resentment if that resentment is rightfully driven, unless the outcome of your resentment is blaming God and not the shamelessly sinful people, godless society surrounding you, including most people that claim to obey God but do anything but, in reality.
Resentment towards evil is not punishable, it's prescribed, hating for the sake what is good is part of faith
So your Logic is that The believer transcends worldly desires and life is preparation for eternity. The problem religiouscels like you don’t understand is that this ignores the lived experience of those biologically or socially blocked. Conscious suffering is real deterministic outputs (emotions, resentment, nihilism) are unavoidable. Reframing them as a “test” or a “blessing” doesn’t make life fair it just covers up the brutality with ideology. Why do others have to suffer less it’s not a test
 
indoctrination & brainwashing

Religions are like fapping or sayings like how the past of the foid is irrelevant (esp for serious rl) and/or how marriage is smt special (when its not and its beta to marry a female unless she both anal & vaginal virgin who would only give it in marriage) aka copings for desperate
 
OP, like many other woefully ignorant people who take cheap shots at religion, makes the oldest mistake in the book of focusing solely on Christianity and other Abrahamic religions (Islam and Judaism), when there are very interesting religious ideas out there that could be explored if only he went searching for them... but no, muh Christianity is the only religion worth discussing.
 
OP, like many other woefully ignorant people who take cheap shots at religion, makes the oldest mistake in the book of focusing solely on Christianity and other Abrahamic religions (Islam and Judaism), when there are very interesting religious ideas out there that could be explored if only he went searching for them... but no, muh Christianity is the only religion worth discussing.
If you use your brain it’s common sense that every other religion follows the same requirements to have a “God” the main one I addressed is the idea of a God being moral. But muh “he only talked abt Christianity not My religion !!” Your religion still follows the same core principles Iqlet
 
In most religions, women are viewed as inferior beings, designed solely for male sexual gratification. Society has manipulated this narrative, allowing foids to dominate over men without any resistance.
 
If you use your brain it’s common sense that every other religion follows the same requirements to have a “God” the main one I addressed is the idea of a God being moral. But muh “he only talked abt Christianity not My religion !!” Your religion still follows the same core principles Iqlet

Buddhism and esoteric Christianity do not believe in that same God you described, since the one you described is anthropormorphic-like. Spiritism's concept of an afterlife is not the same as that of Christianity. Witchcraft and ritual work do not involve any belief in a benevolent God like the Christian one by necessity. Neither do Paganism and other religions around the world.

Read some Mircea Eliade to know where religiosity comes from before shutting off your mouth on topics you know nothing about.
 
Buddhism and esoteric Christianity do not believe in that same God you described, since the one you described is anthropormorphic-like. Spiritism's concept of an afterlife is not the same as that of Christianity. Witchcraft and ritual work do not involve any belief in a benevolent God like the Christian one by necessity. Neither do Paganism and other religions around the world.

Read some Mircea Eliade to know where religiosity comes from before shutting off your mouth on topics you know nothing about.
All I talked about is people who believe In a moral god if whatever else religion God isn’t moral which is what your implying why would I follow it boutta just put dumbasses like you on ignore
 
There's probably something genetic to faith as well
 
All I talked about is people who believe In a moral god if whatever else religion God isn’t moral which is what your implying why would I follow it boutta just put dumbasses like you on ignore

Exactly. "Why would I follow it?" Your questions are on the right path, but you are misguided. Go on, put me on the ignore list so you can keep feeding your confirmation bias by talking only to people who agree with you. That will surely make you less dogmatic and close-minded than Christian fanatics, lol.
 
Exactly. "Why would I follow it?" Your questions are on the right path, but you are misguided. Go on, put me on the ignore list so you can keep feeding your confirmation bias by talking only to people who agree with you. That will surely make you less dogmatic and close-minded than Christian fanatics, lol.
I’m not avoiding disagreement ? I’m pointing out that once you remove moral authority, judgment, or obligation, there’s nothing left to follow or worship. That’s why I only brang up religions that follow the idea of a moral God . If you agree with “why would I follow it,” then we agree. Accusing me of bias doesn’t answer that gap jfl
 
Religion is obviously fake and not real, but its the only means we have of controlling normie behavior.
 
How can you believe there is a moral God out there lying somewhere in the universe? Let’s not talk about normies now , those are excluded because as my past experience debating genetic determinism with religious normies I’ve seen a pattern. They never go deep into researching and learning about their religion meaning they’re just ignorant and they were all born into the religion they believe in meaning they never even choose what to believe in.
- I was surprised to see that theres so called “incels” that believe in religion. how can you call yourself an “incel” if you are religious ? It clearly means you can’t comprehend the idea of genetic determinism and your not even blackpilled lmao the amount of cognitive dissonance it would take is absurdly high.
I’ll take about the 3 common copes people use against it cause surprisingly enough I’ve never heard any better
Argument other than fallacies.
Before I start saying anything we can both agree on the fact that :
-God creates everything
-God foreknows everything
-God can prevent everything
Nice if you agreed this is exactly what your book under Christianity or whatever cope you believe in.

-As we know sexual selection,facial attractiveness, height, symmetry, hormones,voice,posture,health,IQ,personality traits and predisposed confidence or shyness etc are ALL biological traits given before any choices are made. None of these are chosen or earned yet they determine our whole lives: social status,dating outcomes,bullying likelihood,loneliness,confidence,self worth,mental health,career opportunities,happiness trajectory etc

-So if God designed biology then God created lookism as a social hierarchy. God is a lookist

1, “ it’s just a test bro” Alr bro picture this: 2 ppl born with opposite genetics are not playing the same game. one gets love,affection,validation and the other gets loneliness,bullying,rejection,humiliation,resentment.

-But God created the SAME biological desires (love,affection,connection,sex) yet one is biologically blocked from fulfilling them. That’s not a test nigga that’s a setup. A test implies: fairness,equal opportunity and same rules.

2,”God doesn’t care about outward appearance!!!” But humans do ? And God made them that way so God is a lookist.

3, “Bro those instincts are not from God it’s from Satan” JFL if you think this you are a satanist . Let me explain human nature is biological This applies to EVERYBODY and if you believe in what I quoted you are accepting the fact that devil has more control over humans than God does so what is God even responsible of at that point ? Clouds and rainbows ? Lmao You’re literally implying Devil is the creator of humans cause those instincts are what make humans, humans.
-humans react to what’s happening to them if someone is getting
bullied,rejected,isolated,shamed for years and years on their worldview will inevitably shift towards: nihilism, resentment etc and God will punish him for that
- So he creates ppl to suffer and judge them like they had a choice over their suffering and puts them in ETERNAL HELL. Like earth wasn’t already bad enough for a incel ? This is literally the epitome of evil you can’t name one single character that has done a more evil deed like this
- what’s brutal is even HEAVEN doesn’t solve it. By religious textbooks he won’t even go to heaven cause of actions he did or the way he thinks which might seem “sinful” for the privileged man but in Reality it’s just reactions too his life even if God chooses to “reward” him with heaven it means nothing because reward only works if it matches his desire.The whole idea of heaven is built around the idea that : life is good, consciousness is good, eternal life is desirable
But for many who suffer nonexistence is the reward. Religious people don’t get this because they project their own desires.
You can’t call heaven a gift when the person:didn’t choose to exist, didn’t choose the suffering he
endured, didn’t choose his biology, didn’t choose his worldview deterministically formed, he doesn’t choose eternal continuation

HEAVEN SUMMARIZED FOR INCELS:
“You lost at the game I forced you to play because of the rules I rigged
judged by the standards I defined
and your consolation prize is eternal life you don’t want”
- I could go over different arguments for hours but this is the most common I’ve heard so ig it appeals to majority
I am religious.
I belive he makes people in his image.
The further you are away from his image (ugly or short)
The more he abandons you.
He abandons truecels.
I belive there is no heaven for truecels. If they die they go to hell
Chads and Stacys automatically go to heaven.
Richard Ramierez is probably in heaven.
 
Or when youre born on the wrong side of the earth so now you will have to suffer hell for eternety after you die (talking about the people that arent born christian, and are born in other religions without their will)
 
Not a molecule I read but I can tell you're a braindead newfag
 
Religion is cucked.
 
Maybe Gnosticism is the only way...
 
Yes. Looks is an unnecessary social hierarchy, a benevolent god would create a bluepilled fantasy of existence.
The one who controls the societies and kingdoms is the devil, he has authority over kingdoms and great power.

And the one who controls the heart of the unrenpentant one are the demons and whatever slaves them into sin.
 
in bible it is mentioned that those who commit adultery, sin against their own body...

They are many Chads who have HIV and do not know it until they get very sick...

Same for many foids...

They are some very attractive foids who have a serious STD like HIV or Hep or HPV which can mutate to cancer...

they don’t know until they become very sick...

Adulterous life also makes oneself look old very quickly eventually...

Many cancer patients (not all) were actually involved in adultery…. Which is why they have cancer….

The medical industry does not tell you this...

This is why many incels look very young for their age...
 
How can you believe there is a moral God out there lying somewhere in the universe? Let’s not talk about normies now , those are excluded because as my past experience debating genetic determinism with religious normies I’ve seen a pattern. They never go deep into researching and learning about their religion meaning they’re just ignorant and they were all born into the religion they believe in meaning they never even choose what to believe in.
- I was surprised to see that theres so called “incels” that believe in religion. how can you call yourself an “incel” if you are religious ? It clearly means you can’t comprehend the idea of genetic determinism and your not even blackpilled lmao the amount of cognitive dissonance it would take is absurdly high.
I’ll take about the 3 common copes people use against it cause surprisingly enough I’ve never heard any better
Argument other than fallacies.
Before I start saying anything we can both agree on the fact that :
-God creates everything
-God foreknows everything
-God can prevent everything
Nice if you agreed this is exactly what your book under Christianity or whatever cope you believe in.

-As we know sexual selection,facial attractiveness, height, symmetry, hormones,voice,posture,health,IQ,personality traits and predisposed confidence or shyness etc are ALL biological traits given before any choices are made. None of these are chosen or earned yet they determine our whole lives: social status,dating outcomes,bullying likelihood,loneliness,confidence,self worth,mental health,career opportunities,happiness trajectory etc

-So if God designed biology then God created lookism as a social hierarchy. God is a lookist

1, “ it’s just a test bro” Alr bro picture this: 2 ppl born with opposite genetics are not playing the same game. one gets love,affection,validation and the other gets loneliness,bullying,rejection,humiliation,resentment.

-But God created the SAME biological desires (love,affection,connection,sex) yet one is biologically blocked from fulfilling them. That’s not a test nigga that’s a setup. A test implies: fairness,equal opportunity and same rules.

2,”God doesn’t care about outward appearance!!!” But humans do ? And God made them that way so God is a lookist.

3, “Bro those instincts are not from God it’s from Satan” JFL if you think this you are a satanist . Let me explain human nature is biological This applies to EVERYBODY and if you believe in what I quoted you are accepting the fact that devil has more control over humans than God does so what is God even responsible of at that point ? Clouds and rainbows ? Lmao You’re literally implying Devil is the creator of humans cause those instincts are what make humans, humans.
-humans react to what’s happening to them if someone is getting
bullied,rejected,isolated,shamed for years and years on their worldview will inevitably shift towards: nihilism, resentment etc and God will punish him for that
- So he creates ppl to suffer and judge them like they had a choice over their suffering and puts them in ETERNAL HELL. Like earth wasn’t already bad enough for a incel ? This is literally the epitome of evil you can’t name one single character that has done a more evil deed like this
- what’s brutal is even HEAVEN doesn’t solve it. By religious textbooks he won’t even go to heaven cause of actions he did or the way he thinks which might seem “sinful” for the privileged man but in Reality it’s just reactions too his life even if God chooses to “reward” him with heaven it means nothing because reward only works if it matches his desire.The whole idea of heaven is built around the idea that : life is good, consciousness is good, eternal life is desirable
But for many who suffer nonexistence is the reward. Religious people don’t get this because they project their own desires.
You can’t call heaven a gift when the person:didn’t choose to exist, didn’t choose the suffering he
endured, didn’t choose his biology, didn’t choose his worldview deterministically formed, he doesn’t choose eternal continuation

HEAVEN SUMMARIZED FOR INCELS:
“You lost at the game I forced you to play because of the rules I rigged
judged by the standards I defined
and your consolation prize is eternal life you don’t want”
- I could go over different arguments for hours but this is the most common I’ve heard so ig it appeals to majority
Religion is the ONLY good cope for an incel
 
There is no god. Believing is normie bluepill retard trait. Case closed. :feels::banhammer:
 
Religious? No. Believe in God and follow his laws? Yes.
I don't have the faith to not believe in a God.
 
I aint perfect but if i were god incels wouldnt exist but unfortunately there is an asshole in charge or he just doesnt exist regardless im not bowing down to some sky daddy. I deserve a loving familt, i deserve to have kids and a wife and a life i deserev to be normal
 

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