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How can you believe there is a moral God out there lying somewhere in the universe? Let’s not talk about normies now , those are excluded because as my past experience debating genetic determinism with religious normies I’ve seen a pattern. They never go deep into researching and learning about their religion meaning they’re just ignorant and they were all born into the religion they believe in meaning they never even choose what to believe in.
- I was surprised to see that theres so called “incels” that believe in religion. how can you call yourself an “incel” if you are religious ? It clearly means you can’t comprehend the idea of genetic determinism and your not even blackpilled lmao the amount of cognitive dissonance it would take is absurdly high.
I’ll take about the 3 common copes people use against it cause surprisingly enough I’ve never heard any better
Argument other than fallacies.
Before I start saying anything we can both agree on the fact that :
-God creates everything
-God foreknows everything
-God can prevent everything
Nice if you agreed this is exactly what your book under Christianity or whatever cope you believe in.
-As we know sexual selection,facial attractiveness, height, symmetry, hormones,voice,posture,health,IQ,personality traits and predisposed confidence or shyness etc are ALL biological traits given before any choices are made. None of these are chosen or earned yet they determine our whole lives: social status,dating outcomes,bullying likelihood,loneliness,confidence,self worth,mental health,career opportunities,happiness trajectory etc
-So if God designed biology then God created lookism as a social hierarchy. God is a lookist
1, “ it’s just a test bro” Alr bro picture this: 2 ppl born with opposite genetics are not playing the same game. one gets love,affection,validation and the other gets loneliness,bullying,rejection,humiliation,resentment.
-But God created the SAME biological desires (love,affection,connection,sex) yet one is biologically blocked from fulfilling them. That’s not a test nigga that’s a setup. A test implies: fairness,equal opportunity and same rules.
2,”God doesn’t care about outward appearance!!!” But humans do ? And God made them that way so God is a lookist.
3, “Bro those instincts are not from God it’s from Satan” JFL if you think this you are a satanist . Let me explain human nature is biological This applies to EVERYBODY and if you believe in what I quoted you are accepting the fact that devil has more control over humans than God does so what is God even responsible of at that point ? Clouds and rainbows ? Lmao You’re literally implying Devil is the creator of humans cause those instincts are what make humans, humans.
-humans react to what’s happening to them if someone is getting
bullied,rejected,isolated,shamed for years and years on their worldview will inevitably shift towards: nihilism, resentment etc and God will punish him for that
- So he creates ppl to suffer and judge them like they had a choice over their suffering and puts them in ETERNAL HELL. Like earth wasn’t already bad enough for a incel ? This is literally the epitome of evil you can’t name one single character that has done a more evil deed like this
- what’s brutal is even HEAVEN doesn’t solve it. By religious textbooks he won’t even go to heaven cause of actions he did or the way he thinks which might seem “sinful” for the privileged man but in Reality it’s just reactions too his life even if God chooses to “reward” him with heaven it means nothing because reward only works if it matches his desire.The whole idea of heaven is built around the idea that : life is good, consciousness is good, eternal life is desirable
But for many who suffer nonexistence is the reward. Religious people don’t get this because they project their own desires.
You can’t call heaven a gift when the person:didn’t choose to exist, didn’t choose the suffering he
endured, didn’t choose his biology, didn’t choose his worldview deterministically formed, he doesn’t choose eternal continuation
HEAVEN SUMMARIZED FOR INCELS:
“You lost at the game I forced you to play because of the rules I rigged
judged by the standards I defined
and your consolation prize is eternal life you don’t want”
- I could go over different arguments for hours but this is the most common I’ve heard so ig it appeals to majority
- I was surprised to see that theres so called “incels” that believe in religion. how can you call yourself an “incel” if you are religious ? It clearly means you can’t comprehend the idea of genetic determinism and your not even blackpilled lmao the amount of cognitive dissonance it would take is absurdly high.
I’ll take about the 3 common copes people use against it cause surprisingly enough I’ve never heard any better
Argument other than fallacies.
Before I start saying anything we can both agree on the fact that :
-God creates everything
-God foreknows everything
-God can prevent everything
Nice if you agreed this is exactly what your book under Christianity or whatever cope you believe in.
-As we know sexual selection,facial attractiveness, height, symmetry, hormones,voice,posture,health,IQ,personality traits and predisposed confidence or shyness etc are ALL biological traits given before any choices are made. None of these are chosen or earned yet they determine our whole lives: social status,dating outcomes,bullying likelihood,loneliness,confidence,self worth,mental health,career opportunities,happiness trajectory etc
-So if God designed biology then God created lookism as a social hierarchy. God is a lookist
1, “ it’s just a test bro” Alr bro picture this: 2 ppl born with opposite genetics are not playing the same game. one gets love,affection,validation and the other gets loneliness,bullying,rejection,humiliation,resentment.
-But God created the SAME biological desires (love,affection,connection,sex) yet one is biologically blocked from fulfilling them. That’s not a test nigga that’s a setup. A test implies: fairness,equal opportunity and same rules.
2,”God doesn’t care about outward appearance!!!” But humans do ? And God made them that way so God is a lookist.
3, “Bro those instincts are not from God it’s from Satan” JFL if you think this you are a satanist . Let me explain human nature is biological This applies to EVERYBODY and if you believe in what I quoted you are accepting the fact that devil has more control over humans than God does so what is God even responsible of at that point ? Clouds and rainbows ? Lmao You’re literally implying Devil is the creator of humans cause those instincts are what make humans, humans.
-humans react to what’s happening to them if someone is getting
bullied,rejected,isolated,shamed for years and years on their worldview will inevitably shift towards: nihilism, resentment etc and God will punish him for that
- So he creates ppl to suffer and judge them like they had a choice over their suffering and puts them in ETERNAL HELL. Like earth wasn’t already bad enough for a incel ? This is literally the epitome of evil you can’t name one single character that has done a more evil deed like this
- what’s brutal is even HEAVEN doesn’t solve it. By religious textbooks he won’t even go to heaven cause of actions he did or the way he thinks which might seem “sinful” for the privileged man but in Reality it’s just reactions too his life even if God chooses to “reward” him with heaven it means nothing because reward only works if it matches his desire.The whole idea of heaven is built around the idea that : life is good, consciousness is good, eternal life is desirable
But for many who suffer nonexistence is the reward. Religious people don’t get this because they project their own desires.
You can’t call heaven a gift when the person:didn’t choose to exist, didn’t choose the suffering he
endured, didn’t choose his biology, didn’t choose his worldview deterministically formed, he doesn’t choose eternal continuation
HEAVEN SUMMARIZED FOR INCELS:
“You lost at the game I forced you to play because of the rules I rigged
judged by the standards I defined
and your consolation prize is eternal life you don’t want”
- I could go over different arguments for hours but this is the most common I’ve heard so ig it appeals to majority
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