Found this thread on the redpill sub. Honestly I don't know what to think of it. Seems like he destroyed his friend's life.
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1duq7p7/i_converted_a_incel_into_a_beta/
As the title suggest I converted a old friend from highschool from a incel into a beta. Unfortunately, He only partially listened to my teaching. Although, he lost his virginity he didn't fix his frame or worldview before diving head first into a very clear greencard trap. Anyways fuck it, heres my story of how I red pilled a old friend who wasn't doing too hot and it back fired on him.
Backstory/History
My buddy who we'll call "Joe" was my old friend from highschool. I was a emo alt kid and he was a hefty sized stoner. We both were introverts ,but I was always pulling the alt girls and he just wanted to smoke then vibe then play video games. Don't get me wrong I don't claim to be chad thunder cock who dismisses video games as a whole and bench presses local parking lot cars. I do play alot of video games and sure it wastes my time ,but not like he did. He stayed at home after I went to college, got a job as a mail man, clocked over 10k hours in left for dead, and never left home for anything else. Flash forward 9 years (from age 15 to 24) he still hasn't had a girlfriend, never lost his V card, his skin is damn near translucent if it weren't for the grease collecting on his cheek, his thinning hair went to his mid back now and was just as bad as his face. This was the first time I've ever seen a legit basement dweller. Luckily homie didn't own a fedora or anime clothes lol.
Reconnecting
So, I'm browsing through steam and see his 10k hours in left4dead and like 3k in satisfactory. I hit him up asking him about it. We joke it off and exchange snap chat. We decide to meet up to reconnect. He describes his situation to me and is angry at women. I shit you not homeboy starts talking about wanting to mass unalive girls for looking down on him or being mean to him. So, I mention I bet I could help him ,but he has to trust the process. He agrees and we start.
Frame/appearance molding
I started with his frame of mind. I put all the classic red pill blueprints in his head. I talked about hypergamy, divorce courts, what girls actually like, frame, self-confidence, bad guys vs good guys and how to be a good middle ground, what gives males value etc... I also spent a couple weeks hyping him up telling him I'd start sending him girls via snap that I didn't want. These were ment to be practice. He agreed. Before we started that process I helped him with his appearance. Apparently, he lost all the HS weight due to learning to cook with onions. He was introduced to deodorant real quick and we changed his diet. Next I convinced him to cut his hair to fit his face shape. This took about a week or so because he was stuck in the frame of mind that women should accept him as he is. I let him know if women have to maintain their hairy ass legs and pits they're going to expect at the very least minimum self maintenance. Lastly I took him to the thrift store and purchase roughly $50 worth of clothes for dating apps and dates.
Casting his first lines
I helped him make a tinder profile so he could passively attempt to see his first date. Unfortunately, his frame of mind was similar to a angry homeless man. The moment he'd feel he's about to get unmatched or blocked he's blow up on women and get psycho with it. This only pushed them further away and made this process months long. In the mean time, I had a larger girl slide into my DMs who had a body count of about 25 (she told me this yes). I sent her his way and the same thing happened only she told me he was crazy and has issues. I told her to help him out as practice talking to girls ,but let him think its the real thing and send me screenshots. I helped him rizz her up a bit better and he got the basics down with this method. Unfortunately she still was afraid of him from the initial confrontation so, she bailed after a couple weeks. Luckily he managed to score his first date with a large Latina girl a week or so after this event. He said he deserves better and wasn't interested in fat girls. I let him know to be grateful he caught anything in the first place and to use this girl as practice so he's less nervous when he pulls a baddie. This is things went south.
Landed in a trap
This mildly overweight Latina he was supposed to practice flirting with ended up being his first kiss and later his only sexual partner. They immediately started dating. I consider it kind of a win in my book knowing this will fall through eventually and we can then teach him how to get more attractive partners after he learn these relationship skills. Well, things didn't go as planned. He sent me a wall of text about how he's in love with her and how her family supports him. He's been sending money back to her family so they can all get green cards (over $1k). To top it off he tells me when their wedding is. I tried warning him he might be getting used. He got angry at me and didn't talk to me after this.
Conclusion
I somewhat feel bad for putting him in this predicament ,but idk if getting laid by a overweight girl/being used for green card money is better than a life of solitude, loneliness, and anger. I did at least try to warn him even if he didn't listen. Only time will tell. I just wish he would have listened to my last bit. Idk part of me thinks we have to be hurt at least once before we can ascend certain red pill tiers.
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1duq7p7/i_converted_a_incel_into_a_beta/
As the title suggest I converted a old friend from highschool from a incel into a beta. Unfortunately, He only partially listened to my teaching. Although, he lost his virginity he didn't fix his frame or worldview before diving head first into a very clear greencard trap. Anyways fuck it, heres my story of how I red pilled a old friend who wasn't doing too hot and it back fired on him.
Backstory/History
My buddy who we'll call "Joe" was my old friend from highschool. I was a emo alt kid and he was a hefty sized stoner. We both were introverts ,but I was always pulling the alt girls and he just wanted to smoke then vibe then play video games. Don't get me wrong I don't claim to be chad thunder cock who dismisses video games as a whole and bench presses local parking lot cars. I do play alot of video games and sure it wastes my time ,but not like he did. He stayed at home after I went to college, got a job as a mail man, clocked over 10k hours in left for dead, and never left home for anything else. Flash forward 9 years (from age 15 to 24) he still hasn't had a girlfriend, never lost his V card, his skin is damn near translucent if it weren't for the grease collecting on his cheek, his thinning hair went to his mid back now and was just as bad as his face. This was the first time I've ever seen a legit basement dweller. Luckily homie didn't own a fedora or anime clothes lol.
Reconnecting
So, I'm browsing through steam and see his 10k hours in left4dead and like 3k in satisfactory. I hit him up asking him about it. We joke it off and exchange snap chat. We decide to meet up to reconnect. He describes his situation to me and is angry at women. I shit you not homeboy starts talking about wanting to mass unalive girls for looking down on him or being mean to him. So, I mention I bet I could help him ,but he has to trust the process. He agrees and we start.
Frame/appearance molding
I started with his frame of mind. I put all the classic red pill blueprints in his head. I talked about hypergamy, divorce courts, what girls actually like, frame, self-confidence, bad guys vs good guys and how to be a good middle ground, what gives males value etc... I also spent a couple weeks hyping him up telling him I'd start sending him girls via snap that I didn't want. These were ment to be practice. He agreed. Before we started that process I helped him with his appearance. Apparently, he lost all the HS weight due to learning to cook with onions. He was introduced to deodorant real quick and we changed his diet. Next I convinced him to cut his hair to fit his face shape. This took about a week or so because he was stuck in the frame of mind that women should accept him as he is. I let him know if women have to maintain their hairy ass legs and pits they're going to expect at the very least minimum self maintenance. Lastly I took him to the thrift store and purchase roughly $50 worth of clothes for dating apps and dates.
Casting his first lines
I helped him make a tinder profile so he could passively attempt to see his first date. Unfortunately, his frame of mind was similar to a angry homeless man. The moment he'd feel he's about to get unmatched or blocked he's blow up on women and get psycho with it. This only pushed them further away and made this process months long. In the mean time, I had a larger girl slide into my DMs who had a body count of about 25 (she told me this yes). I sent her his way and the same thing happened only she told me he was crazy and has issues. I told her to help him out as practice talking to girls ,but let him think its the real thing and send me screenshots. I helped him rizz her up a bit better and he got the basics down with this method. Unfortunately she still was afraid of him from the initial confrontation so, she bailed after a couple weeks. Luckily he managed to score his first date with a large Latina girl a week or so after this event. He said he deserves better and wasn't interested in fat girls. I let him know to be grateful he caught anything in the first place and to use this girl as practice so he's less nervous when he pulls a baddie. This is things went south.
Landed in a trap
This mildly overweight Latina he was supposed to practice flirting with ended up being his first kiss and later his only sexual partner. They immediately started dating. I consider it kind of a win in my book knowing this will fall through eventually and we can then teach him how to get more attractive partners after he learn these relationship skills. Well, things didn't go as planned. He sent me a wall of text about how he's in love with her and how her family supports him. He's been sending money back to her family so they can all get green cards (over $1k). To top it off he tells me when their wedding is. I tried warning him he might be getting used. He got angry at me and didn't talk to me after this.
Conclusion
I somewhat feel bad for putting him in this predicament ,but idk if getting laid by a overweight girl/being used for green card money is better than a life of solitude, loneliness, and anger. I did at least try to warn him even if he didn't listen. Only time will tell. I just wish he would have listened to my last bit. Idk part of me thinks we have to be hurt at least once before we can ascend certain red pill tiers.
