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SuicideFuel I cannot buy into the '5-6inch dicks are average/adequate' narrative

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I know porn is not "real life", but I see these guys with verified 8" dicks and how easily women take all 8" of them... then I look down at mine and I think "wtf".

And fuck these studies that claim 5-6" are average too, because in theory that might be the case, but in practice, it is not. What I mean by that is that is, in practice, <5" dicks are easily out of the pool of people having sex. Guys under 5" have either felt the sting of rejection for their size, or intuitively know they're too small, so they're out. So from a women's perspective, 5" is easily considered small. Once that's established, we can finally start to determine the actual average. Now I know dick size is a bell curve distribution but I think when you consider the fact that guys with bigger dicks are having more sex with more women, the distribution appears to be more evenly distributed to the general population of women. So from that assumption, it becomes simple math... assuming a range of 5" to 8.5", you come to an average of 6.75".

Now, admittedly, this is where I start reaching (maybe). When have women ever been satisfied with average? Think about height. Women generally do not like settling for average, they will, but that doesn't mean they're happy about it. 5'9" is average male height in the US, but women only start swooning for guys above 6' or 6'1". That means you have to be about 5% over the average in height to have women wet for you. Now apply that 5% increase to the 6.75" and it means your dick has to be about 7.08" long to have women genuinely wanting/impressed by your dick. So what does that mean for guys? Women only start swooning for guys not at 6.75" but at 7.08", and the 5.5" dick is obviously out of the question at that point too. And don't pretend like a mere 1.5" difference is nothing, because that discrepancy is huge.

I know I'm reaching with some of this shit... but I'm convinced that my logic checks out, even if my numbers might not, but I bet my figures are close.
 
But I don't actually see most girls in porn able to take even the average porn star's full dick.

Usually what I see is this shit:

https://www.youporn.com/watch/14366...-huge-bad-dragon-and-gets-huge-squirt-orgasm/

Keep in mind this is a girl who has stretched herself out so much she can easily stick her entire fist in her ass, but she can't get more than half way down that massive dildo. Most of the time she sticks to the first 1/3 of it or less.

Girls can stretch in diameter (ie. to fit a wider dildo) and it is almost impossible to have too much girth (usually problems develop after 5.5-6" girth based on reports from penis enlargement or big dick forums), but there is only so much depth and people with big dicks often complain they can't go fully deep without hitting the cervix and causing pain.
 
But I don't actually see most girls in porn able to take even the average porn star's full dick.

Usually what I see is this shit:

https://www.youporn.com/watch/14366...-huge-bad-dragon-and-gets-huge-squirt-orgasm/

Keep in mind this is a girl who has stretched herself out so much she can easily stick her entire fist in her ass, but she can't get more than half way down that massive dildo. Most of the time she sticks to the first 1/3 of it or less.

Girls can stretch in diameter (ie. to fit a wider dildo) and it is almost impossible to have too much girth (usually problems develop after 5.5-6" girth based on reports from penis enlargement or big dick forums), but there is only so much depth and people with big dicks often complain they can't go fully deep without hitting the cervix and causing pain.
 
anything under 7 inches is small imo
 
Fakecel if a female has seen your dick on purpose and she wasn't family/your doctor
 
The dickpill raped me in the ass.

Seriously though, massive dick and good looking guy? You are golden, you will slay not only your gf but tons of other prime foids. Bigger dick = more sexual partners.
 
Muh averages is complete and total cope, 5.5" average my ass
Just by pure chance, the first guy you interview might have a 4", while the second guy could have an 8 incher. And yes, guys with larger dicks get laid more.

Just because you are "above average" doesn't instantly make you bigger than anyone else, you are constantly competing
 
Most amateur porn guys have big dicks
 
"i see guys with verified 8 inch c0cks" :feelswhere:
 
I agree. Average means nothing to women. Below 6" is tiny in the 21st century, no two ways about it. You can cope with statistics all you want, but we incels should know better.
To foids 6" - 6.5" is small and 7" is acceptable.

Same goes for height. To women below 5'9" is tiny, 5'9"-5'11" is short, 6'0" and sometimes 5'11" is average/acceptable.

You're also 100% right about the correlation of dick size and the amount of sex a man has. 7"+ men have more sex with different females and females are thus exposed to larger dicks. Think about it. Sure, a foid might see a 5.5" dick here and there, but I'm certain the average dick they take is around 6.5" - 7" including many large 8"+ dicks.

The average across the entire population might really be 5.5" or whatever, but the overall average is not the same as the average women are exposed to.
 
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Fakecel if a female has seen your dick on purpose and she wasn't family/your doctor
Look on /r/smalldickproblems. A mod tried to commit suicide because a girl made fun of him.
So I got a date/one night stand on okcupid, which is kind of surprising since the girl was pretty attractive. It was all going really well lots of ";)'s" in messages and things seemed pretty much in the clear for me. On her profile it said she was looking for casual sex, which seemed appealing to me mostly because I doubt I would ever see this girl again in-case things went downhill because of my size. (Which turned out to be better than worse)
So when I got to her place I noticed she had 2 other roomates, both girls and definitely attractive. As soon as I got there she immediately said infront of her roomates."oh wow you're cuter in person, and I can't wait to see your hot dick" she says, while touching my pecs and legs. I could feel the roomates eye fucking the shit out of me without directly looking at them. I'm thinking holy shit is this happening, it's like a wet dream. She didn't even say hot BIG dick. She takes me to her bedroom and we do a little foreplay. We start making out in the middle (it was horrible since I've never done this before). When she took my pants off she was looking straight at my crotch because I was wearing somewhat tight boxer briefs, I also had I had a raging 4" boner. Sounds kind of awesome so far right?
Here's where it gets bad. She looks almost angry and says "is that your boner... it's kind of small" I said yeah can't wait to show how it works, something along those lines. At this point I start sweating and getting slight panic attack. At this point she says "sorry you seem like a nice guy but this isn't going to work, just get out and let's forget about this". I didn't say another word and just got dressed as fast as possible and left.
I'm pretty sure I'll never forget this for the rest of my life. I've never felt so emasculated and angry in my life until last night. I used try be positive about my condition and women, but now I feel I'm starting to feel extremely bitter towards both. My experience changed the way I view relationships with women. I used to think about finding the right girl and living happily ever after, but now I have this notion that no girl is a right girl. This is mostly because I feel no girl would stay with me and that if they ever did that they would end up cheating on me with a bigger guy and breaking my heart. I've somehow managed to convince myself of forgetting about relationships, but it hasn't stopped me from wanting to get laid. I feel as if I'm going to into one of those red pillers in a year or two, which is scaring me. Somehow my small dick has changed my perspective on all women, and I fucking hate it and want to change it. I think it's changing me into a person for the worse. Anyone else have a similar experience?
tl;dr: "Is that your boner... it's kind of small", "Sorry you seem like a nice guy but this isn't going to work, just get out and let's forget about this". Didn't have sex, nope. Sorry for the wall of text.
 
All women want chad
 
5-6 is average, but nowhere near adequate. The same way the average height in the US is 5’9” but that’s manlet status.
 
I don't hit the cervix, my dick goes farther than 5 inches in, I'm content.

Too bad none of us will ever feel the weight of having a small dick or the pride of a big dick, because none of us will get to use them.
 
Holy shit, I would kill myself. That story was brutal.
My suicide attempt failed. I jumped off of a roof while drunk and broke my back to the point where I can’t walk properly. I’ve got some pretty cool scars now I guess. Hopefully after a few weeks I’ll be able to walk again. I can walk, just not very well right now. Atleast I’ll be getting ripped while in this wheelchair.
Even though I said I gave up on women in previous posts, I've been talking to a few anyway prior to the attempt at my own life. I guess that’s just human nature.
I really liked this one girl and tried to hold off sex for as long as I could before I noticed she started getting a little frustrated. The dating process was about a month and a half. I finally let sex happen, and at first I thought it was going great. Lots of foreplay, made her orgasm once (thanks Nina Hartley). I took people's advice and made sure I got her off first before her letting her see me.
When it finally came down to her pulling down my pants, she made that same face as the others have. Despite this she gave me a blowjob which was nice. After that she didn't want to go any further while I did. She said she was tired. Okay I thought, whatever maybe she actually is.. Well the day after she texts me saying she had fun, but that she's thinks we're not compatible all of a sudden and she says that she'd consider an open relationship. Well I immediately knew why because in the past women on reddit have pretty much said the same thing when it comes to a guy who was too small and couldn’t please them. I asked her if it was my size and she said it wasn’t. Okay I guess. Maybe she just wants to fuck around.
She wanted to be friends mostly, or I think FWB. It's weird because we had nothing but fun while we were together and she's the one who initiated anything sexual. We couldn't stop laughing with each other and stop smiling at each other whenever we were together. I literally thought I found someone who I could have a real relationship with who made feel like I wasn’t that pathetic misogynistic fuck that I usually am.
Most of the time I don't have chemistry with people easily because I'm a weirdo, but I was emotionally invested. We weren't exclusive but I knew she was seeing other guys.
So I asked her why she didn't want to have a monogamous relationship with me (she told me that was her ultimate goal in dating), and I told her to be blunt like she usually is with me because I thought I deserved to know. When she told me last time it seemed really awkward and odd.
I told her that I didn't want to make the same mistake with the next person and improve myself. She kind of got the message that I didn't want to be friends or be be in an open relationship. She finally told me that she only dates guys who have "normal" sized penises and that I was too small. She said sex was important to her in a relationship. I just said thanks for letting me know and hung up.
That pretty much shattered me. I mean you see all the opposite things being said on reddit where size doesn't matter and that if a girl likes you enough she won't care about your size. I knew she liked me. I felt it and she knew I liked her. Yet she rejected me to easily because of my size.
Everyone keeps talking about how it’s the person behind the penis that gets rejected, or somehow I’m to blame because my insecurity seeped through. I know I was smooth as fuck. I was confident when I was with her. So am I really the one to blame or is it the size of my penis?
When I asked myself that question I realized that it may as well been both. I started reading my own post history and started seeing that I progressively became more and more of an asshole towards women, and guys who have it better than me down there. Not only that even if I was a “good” person who would want to be with someone who couldn’t satisfy?
At that point I thought I should end my life before I became some spiteful misogynistic hate monster like some others in this sub, no offense.
Because of my fall I haven’t really been able to think properly due to medications and surgery, so here I am fully awake for the first time in a while. Personally I feel like I may as well try again until I get it right next time, but the only thing that is stopping me right now is the reactions from some friends and family. It was painful enough to see them visit me, and actually seeing some of them cry next to me.
So yeah.. what’s new with you guys?
tl;dr: I have chemistry with a girl I really like and date for a month and hold off on sex. We finally have sex and get we stop seeing each other afterwards. Later I find out that it’s because of my size and that I don’t have a “normal” sized penis. I had a week of thinking about myself and what I am. I decided to commit suicide, but I survived. I don’t think I can do it again, but I just don’t know what I could possibly do at this point.
P.S: thanks for all the messages that some of you sent me before this.
 

Yeah, there is no god. Poor guy.
 
Yeah, there is no god. Poor guy.
It's why inceldom can be caused by dicks too. I don't believe in @Indari's idea that it can't be caused by small dicks. They cope a lot, I lurk and saw many sad posts by that guy and many others.

I know some of you will say "atleast you got that close" but what's worse? Having something and losing it, or never having it?
It took me a long time to go grow out of being the fat, out of shape, ugly looking kid. I started putting in effort and dare I say that I look pretty decent. Hell a few girls actually message me first on dating sites and phone apps. It's a confidence booster for sure. You don't need me to tell you that physical attraction is the key to not being forever alone. It took hard work to change it. Hell alot of people say height is a huge factor in attraction. I'm short at 5'7, and yet I was still able to get girls who were taller than me to take interest in me. Actually it seems like taller girls take more interest in me than anything. I felt awesome for awhile.
For the most part all of the girls that I've tried to be with wanted casual sex from me. I'm not all for it, but I thought I'd try to get experience. I wrote about my experience elsewhere, but in short what happened was that she told me to leave her apartment once she saw my bulge with a disgusted face.
Second time I actually tried to date a girl. It was about a week and a half in. She pulled the fade after she saw my penis, but I was able to do some things with her. I was on the receiving end but she wouldn't allow me to do anything to her afterwards. When she saw my penis she made this twisted looking poker face. It was disappointment and shock.
The third girl was the worst for me. We had dated for a month. I had thought initially I would never have any real chemistry with anyone. She was actually fun to be around. It brought out a side to me which I thought I didn't have. I was happy and way more friendly to people. My friends noticed it, and my family noticed it. Even though I wasn't exactly exclusive with this girl it still made me so god damn happy. I took things very slow with her. Alot of people on various subreddits suggested on holding off from sex, so a girl would like me enough to not reject me. It didn't work. The worst part is is that she totally wanted sex from me and there was one day where she wouldn't stop touching me complimenting me and etc. That day I finally gave in. I gave her an orgasm through fingering and oral. It was awesome to see. At this point she wanted to reciprocate. She pulled down my pants and gave that same twisted disappointed pokerface expression. She gave me a blowjob and ended the night there. Next day she calls to say it didn't work out, and when I asked if it was my size she said no. So another week goes by and I'm not feeling completely miserable because atleast it wasn't my size that ended it. I tried coming up with reasons why she wanted to be more casual and more like friends. So I gave her an ultimatum and asked why she REALLY rejected me. It was because I didn't have a "normal" sized penis. Since then I've been spiraling downwards.
It was so bad that I attempted suicide and failed. I injured myself badly to the point of surgery and heavy medication and a possible chance of never walking properly again (although I am recovering pretty well). I really want to try again and make sure I get the job done right, but I can't. I saw some of my friends and family cry in front of me and I just didn't want to take the chance of seeing it again.
There are days where I wish I could just die a noble death. Where I won't seem like a coward, and where I won't be seen as less of a person. I've been wanting to join the military for this sole reason.
I wish I could increase my penis size and actually have it feel pleasurable to someone. If I was adequate I wouldn't even care if it was small.
/endrant and congrats for making it through.
I understand some of you will feel no sympathy for me because I got some attention, but to be so close to something and get pushed so far is such a shitty feeling especially when it is out of your control. I wish I would just die in an accident.
tl;dr: rejected for penis size 3 times despite trying to get to know someone.

You can get far enough but no sympathy for what you are born with today.
 
Of all the things we have going against us do you really need to go out of your way to invent more things?

5" is average. Above is going to satisfy girls easily. Being average is going to maybe be an issue depending on what the girl is used to.
 
I'm pretty much 7" and even I feel small. Women can probably fit in 8 inchers by 15.
 
Is that bone pressed? 7” nbpl should be solid
It is. 6.25" is my NBPL. Ironically enough I'm 15lbs underweight, so I'm probably gonna get fat spot reduction surgery.
 
these whores make me rage
 
The dickpill raped me in the ass.

Seriously though, massive dick and good looking guy? You are golden, you will slay not only your gf but tons of other prime foids. Bigger dick = more sexual partners.


More sexual partners at the same time too.
 
I'm pretty much 7" and even I feel small. Women can probably fit in 8 inchers by 15.
Don't be dumb.
I agree. Average means nothing to women. Below 6" is tiny in the 21st century, no two ways about it. You can cope with statistics all you want, but we incels should know better.
To foids 6" - 6.5" is small and 7" is acceptable.

Same goes for height. To women below 5'9" is tiny, 5'9"-5'11" is short, 6'0" and sometimes 5'11" is average/acceptable.

You're also 100% right about the correlation of dick size and the amount of sex a man has. 7"+ men have more sex with different females and females are thus exposed to larger dicks. Think about it. Sure, a foid might see a 5.5" dick here and there, but I'm certain the average dick they take is around 6.5" - 7" including many large 8"+ dicks.

The average across the entire population might really be 5.5" or whatever, but the overall average is not the same as the average women are exposed to.
This isn't true. Men lie about their size.
 
I avoid porn now as much as possible as its suifuel. However, I have seen examples of fake dicks, stunt dicks and the good old genuine big dick. The problem is that as porn is a fantasy by nature they do what ever is necessary to create and maintain the illusions. Watch some British Amateur porn and see the dick size drop by a mile. A static camera and a little pecker going at it. Dick extenders are used allot and the higher the quality of the film, the better the quality the extenders. I mean cheap ones on Amazon are £5 and can go up from there. Listen boyos, a foid in the UK was recently sent to jail for sexual assault of other foids. She used a dildo and prended to be a man. Only shagging in the dark and wearing mens suits. A number of foids feel for it. She would ask the foods dick size preference and buy the size. The police seized... 8 sub 6 inch dicks. She found that the larger the dick, the more likely the foid was to ask for the light on due to pain. In essence, she inadvertently proved the myth of porn being real. Women want average and Chad's.

Also, from a subjective point of view I do not see the girls in porn take the whole length. Not even close.
 
Of all the things we have going against us do you really need to go out of your way to invent more things?

5" is average. Above is going to satisfy girls easily. Being average is going to maybe be an issue depending on what the girl is used to.
After reading the SDP sub, FOIDs will insult you if you are "average". 5in can cause a girl to make fun of you like that story I posted. It may be sexually acceptable but its not visually acceptable. You will never get to use it, you will show it then you will be laughed at, then they will make fun of you to everyone around you and you'll be known as the guy with a small dick. 3in is enough to hit the g spot, but good luck with getting a girl to accept that instead of laughing at you.

Being a dicklet has nothing to do with utility, its all about looks, like the way incels look.
 
Also, a final point, foids have no way to know dick size before the boxers come off. That's what gave rise to the dick pick, the notion that you will be desired by having a big one. I think 99.99% get sent packing. In the average Stacy and Chad meet up, she can go only on face. Dick size latter. I remember a stat that said only 16% of foids rejected a dude based on dick size. I promise that if he was Chad and a Dr she would take his 3 inch pencil like a MF. Don't confuse the black pill and the idea that women will reject Chad on anything but face and status. Plenty of bigdicktruecels on here.
 
Also, a final point, foids have no way to know dick size before the boxers come off. That's what gave rise to the dick pick, the notion that you will be desired by having a big one. I think 99.99% get sent packing. In the average Stacy and Chad meet up, she can go only on face. Dick size latter. I remember a stat that said only 16% of foids rejected a dude based on dick size. I promise that if he was Chad and a Dr she would take his 3 inch pencil like a MF. Don't confuse the black pill and the idea that women will reject Chad on anything but face and status. Plenty of bigdicktruecels on here.
Cope. She will fuck Chad but then tell all her friends that he has a tiny dick.

https://deadspin.com/5652280/the-full-duke-university-fuck-list-thesis-from-a-former-female-student/

This is how women think.
 
I'm happy I dickmog guys in asian porn.
 
Also, a final point, foids have no way to know dick size before the boxers come off. That's what gave rise to the dick pick, the notion that you will be desired by having a big one. I think 99.99% get sent packing. In the average Stacy and Chad meet up, she can go only on face. Dick size latter. I remember a stat that said only 16% of foids rejected a dude based on dick size. I promise that if he was Chad and a Dr she would take his 3 inch pencil like a MF. Don't confuse the black pill and the idea that women will reject Chad on anything but face and status. Plenty of bigdicktruecels on here.
Only? That seems rather high. You have to have:
1. Good face
2. Good body
3. Good dick
4. Good "personality"

Its OVER
 
Its mostly a feelsgood statement to make guys feel better. If you are dickpilled you know that anything below 7.5 inches is inadequate for most women.
 
The g-spot is about two inches into the vagina; pleasure receptors span the whole vaginal wall, not just the parts closer to the cervix. Girth is more important than length.
 
The g-spot is about two inches into the vagina; pleasure receptors span the whole vaginal wall, not just the parts closer to the cervix. Girth is more important than length.
This and the vegan thread makes you :bluepill::bluepill::bluepill:
 
This and the vegan thread makes you :bluepill::bluepill::bluepill:
This is reproductive anatomy 101. Hire an escort, rub the spot about 2 or 3 inches into her anterior vaginal wall with your middle and index fingers, then come back and tell me I'm wrong.
 
This is reproductive anatomy 101. Hire an escort, rub the spot about 2 or 3 inches into her anterior vaginal wall with your middle and index fingers, then come back and tell me I'm wrong.
Paying an escort is not the same as being rejected for being small. Incels and chads are only different faces but physically the same. An incel can make a girl orgasm too so I guess you solved the incel problem by just having 3in
 
Paying an escort is not the same as being rejected for being small. Incels and chads are only different faces but physically the same. An incel can make a girl orgasm too so I guess you solved the incel problem by just having 3in
I'm not saying having a needle dick is acceptable. I'm just saying it's unreasonable to obsess over length when girth is clearly more important when you look at female reproductive anatomy.
 
I'm not saying having a needle dick is acceptable. I'm just saying it's unreasonable to obsess over length when girth is clearly more important when you look at female reproductive anatomy.
It's impossible to not care when FOIDs care. I don't care about how I look. I care because others do.
 
It's impossible to not care when FOIDs care. I don't care about how I look. I care because others do.
Obviously having a sub 5 inch length is a death sentence, especially if you're tall, but having average length is fine if you have decent girth. A long skinny penis will not please a woman as much as a fat average-length penis.
 
Obviously having a sub 5 inch length is a death sentence, especially if you're tall, but having average length is fine if you have decent girth. A long skinny penis will not please a woman as much as a fat average-length penis.
How do you know this?
 
How do you know this?
I've done the basic research on female anatomy. An average length penis with good girth will hit the pleasure receptors it needs to.

Also based on personal experience. Often times I've had to scrub pussy juice off myself after escortcelling. (Obviously, escorts will fake orgasms and tell you how well-endowed you are, but I doubt they're able to cum on command.) Mine is slightly above average in both length and girth.
 
5/6 inch penises are small


saying different is cope
u do know like 2% or less men's in America has 7+ . Let's be realistic if a good looking guy has an average size dick it would not be a deal breaker
 
u do know like 2% or less men's in America has 7+ . Let's be realistic if a good looking guy has an average size dick it would not be a deal breaker
I'm not American, but I personally think 5/6 is small.
 

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