JFL I am tired of normies blaming the economic landscape for the lack of births

[RealSchizo]

No matter how much proof is being presented, those normies refuse to acknowledge the root of the problem. No, It's not because of inflation, no it's not because housing is unaffordable, yes, you could say that housing is a major part of the problem, but in reality it is 10% of the issue, the biggest problem is WOMEN.
Men cannot get the average woman to look at them, literally ALL of them choose the top 10% of males, you're not interesting in their eyes, unless you're over 5'11 and have a chiseled jawline.
I don't believe in inflation being the main issue on why young men aren't breeding, it's all because of women and their pretensions and the direct consequences of it.
If you had a girlfriend right now that genuine loved you, then you'd both unite your finances and find a place of your own. Simple as. This is what happens, literally.
Renting is not that expensive especially when you both work, it's all cope or denial on the actual root of the issue, but i'd say it is the latter.
Men are in denial about it, and so they blame the politicians and the state of economy. They just can't come to their senses and come to the only logical conclusion that no woman would ever love them because of their looks.
Most states are literally coddling women when it comes to raising newborn children, stop the cope now, they get so many privileges, motherhood is affordable and even beneficial to women.

 

[Tšuudi]

 

[Animecel2D]

Muh economic landscape when a shithole like Niger has the highest birth rates in the world

 

[GeckoBus]

No matter how much proof is being presented, those normies refuse to acknowledge the root of the problem. No, It's not because of inflation, no it's not because housing is unaffordable, yes, you could say that housing is a major part of the problem, but in reality it is 10% of the issue, the biggest problem is WOMEN.
Men cannot get the average woman to look at them, literally ALL of them choose the top 10% of males, you're not interesting in their eyes, unless you're over 5'11 and have a chiseled jawline.
I don't believe in inflation being the main issue on why young men aren't breeding, it's all because of women and their pretensions and the direct consequences of it.
If you had a girlfriend right now that genuine loved you, then you'd both unite your finances and find a place of your own. Simple as. This is what happens, literally.
Renting is not that expensive especially when you both work, it's all cope or denial on the actual root of the issue, but i'd say it is the latter.
Men are in denial about it, and so they blame the politicians and the state of economy. They just can't come to their senses and come to the only logical conclusion that no woman would ever love them because of their looks.
Most states are literally coddling women when it comes to raising newborn children, stop the cope now, they get so many privileges, motherhood is affordable and even beneficial to women.

TLDR:

1. people had more kids with 1000000% less material comforts just 100 years ago (no running water, electricity, refrigeration, no toilets, showers)
2. people back then also had no social mobility, so that doesnt make a difference

The only thing gatekeeping birth rate is women. Women have aborted 60 million kids since 1970s in USA alone. If women wanted kids, they would exist. Women dont want kids, so no kids exist. EZPZ

 

[yeetbender_]

Muh economic landscape when a shithole like Niger has the highest birth rates in the world

Nigers should be hanged for creating more deformed beings.

 

[RealSchizo]

TLDR:

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1. people had more kids with 1000000% less material comforts just 100 years ago (no running water, electricity, refrigeration, no toilets, showers)
2. people back then also had no social mobility, so that doesnt make a difference

The only thing gatekeeping birth rate is women. Women have aborted 60 million kids since 1970s in USA alone. If women wanted kids, they would exist. Women dont want kids, so no kids exist. EZPZ

Yeah I get very pissed off whenever some normie tries to justify the lack of births not with inceldom, but the economic landscape. This has to be a joke, jfl. No one wants to speak about it, too taboo. All men worship women after all.

 

[Bloodhood]

Muh economic landscape when a shithole like Niger has the highest birth rates in the world

Because they are not westernize

 

[electricSon90]

Yep, nobody wants to acknowledge the dark truth. More men are heading for a life of inceldom.

 

[CRASH THE CUCK]

if the economy was the cause, then why dont more women go for men with loads of money?

 

[CRASH THE CUCK]

if the economy was the cause, then why dont more women go for men with loads of money?

women out earn men anyway and women turn their nose up to any chud with loads of money

 

[tired as fuck]

it is everything, man. Mostly, 60 yrs of propaganda

 

[GreerTech Creations]

No matter how much proof is being presented, those normies refuse to acknowledge the root of the problem. No, It's not because of inflation, no it's not because housing is unaffordable, yes, you could say that housing is a major part of the problem, but in reality it is 10% of the issue, the biggest problem is WOMEN.
Men cannot get the average woman to look at them, literally ALL of them choose the top 10% of males, you're not interesting in their eyes, unless you're over 5'11 and have a chiseled jawline.
I don't believe in inflation being the main issue on why young men aren't breeding, it's all because of women and their pretensions and the direct consequences of it.
If you had a girlfriend right now that genuine loved you, then you'd both unite your finances and find a place of your own. Simple as. This is what happens, literally.
Renting is not that expensive especially when you both work, it's all cope or denial on the actual root of the issue, but i'd say it is the latter.
Men are in denial about it, and so they blame the politicians and the state of economy. They just can't come to their senses and come to the only logical conclusion that no woman would ever love them because of their looks.
Most states are literally coddling women when it comes to raising newborn children, stop the cope now, they get so many privileges, motherhood is affordable and even beneficial to women.

I fundamentally disagree. Yes, hypergamy does make it worse, but the economy does absolutely make things worse. Housing prices in a good neighborhood have went up dramatically. Most people are just surviving as they are. It's not like women or chads are chaste.

 

[SmhChan]

TLDR:

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1. people had more kids with 1000000% less material comforts just 100 years ago (no running water, electricity, refrigeration, no toilets, showers)
2. people back then also had no social mobility, so that doesnt make a difference

The only thing gatekeeping birth rate is women. Women have aborted 60 million kids since 1970s in USA alone. If women wanted kids, they would exist. Women dont want kids, so no kids exist. EZPZ

For normies, everything must be compared to the boomer economy. Most of us, including the third-worlders, lead a better-quality life than most emperors of the past who used to kick the bucket by 30.

Normies are incredibly self-absorbed and cannot even be bothered to spend 5 minutes with their kids. Blaming the economy is just a convenient excuse to hide their vapid and selfish nature as it is an academia and msm approved excuse.

With their birth-rate dwindling, I hope South Korea gets invaded and butt-fucked into oblivion by North Korea. That might set an example for the normie faggots.

 

[Grodd]

It's all so tiresome, normies will never hold foids accountable.

 

[four1298]

TLDR:

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1. people had more kids with 1000000% less material comforts just 100 years ago (no running water, electricity, refrigeration, no toilets, showers)
2. people back then also had no social mobility, so that doesnt make a difference

The only thing gatekeeping birth rate is women. Women have aborted 60 million kids since 1970s in USA alone. If women wanted kids, they would exist. Women dont want kids, so no kids exist. EZPZ

This is how much it actually costs to raise a child: https://torontosun.com/2013/08/22/c...id-for-less-than-4500-a-year-fraser-institute

 

[GeckoBus]

This is how much it actually costs to raise a child: https://torontosun.com/2013/08/22/c...id-for-less-than-4500-a-year-fraser-institute

I cant cope with the excuse making NOOOOO I NEED TO SPEND 1000 DOLLA AMONTH ON DAYCARE BECAUSE I REFUSE TO RAISE MY OWN CHILD NOOOOOOOOO

Normies are incredibly self-absorbed and cannot even be bothered to spend 5 minutes with their kids. Blaming the economy is just a convenient excuse to hide their vapid and selfish nature as it is an academia and msm approved excuse.

this, this so hard. I realized at some point that I raised myself, my parents didnt do shit besides feed me give me clothes. I figured out everything I know on my own while they just rotted and only called on me to do shit for them. Most people actually prefer women over kids. The father simps for the mom, the mom worships herself. The family is a micro-cult worshiping the mom. The children exist for her, the husband exists for her. Lets not forget, daycare exists so women can ditch their kids and do what THEY want.

Nobody forces women to dump their 6 month old child at a daycare so she can make powerpoints and gurgle the managers semen, nobody. They make that choice.
They only want kids for status and half of pregnancies are accidents anyway. Half of accidental pregnancies get aborted. between 10-20% of people you see on street in any country on earth are accidents. They were never wanted.

 

[four1298]

Nobody forces women to dump their 6 month old child at a daycare so she can make powerpoints

What if they need to pay rent and need an income though?

 

[uncomfortablecel225]

It's all so tiresome, normies will never hold foids accountable.

 

[GeckoBus]

What if they need to pay rent and need an income though?

nigga virutaly all 1st world western nations provide free money just for having kids read this:

For the 2025 tax year (filed in 2026), the U.S. Child Tax Credit (CTC) provides up to $2,200 per qualifying child under age 17, with up to $1,700 refundable via the Additional Child Tax Credit. This benefit is for working families with adjusted gross incomes (AGI) up to $200,000 (single) or $400,000 (married filing jointly). [1, 2, 3]


germany, all of europe and canada have this too. you get money for having kids and raising them alone. You get more money the more kids you ahve too until like 3rd child where it doesnt go up anymore. And there are countless other things too. its completely possible to have kids. If you can afford a dog, you can afford a child. Millions of people have dogs in these countries.

The average monthly cost for a dog in the US is roughly $100 to over $400, depending on size and care needs. For a medium-sized breed, owners can expect to spend roughly $120 to $375 per month on essentials, with many owners budgeting $50–$149 per month for primary expenses

do the math 100 to over 400 thats 1200 to 4800 a year, meaning, if you have a big dog you are spending same amount of money it takes to raise child annually as that candada report said in the article i put in my reply. Nigga if you saw the stupid shit people spend money on, espeically women, you wouldnt be saying this. Just look at the amount of fast food chains in the US - these single moms dont even cook, even though cooking is cheaper.

 

[Iwillmurderyou]

Foids are picky and would rather have no children than children with someone ugly

 

[four1298]

do the math 100 to over 400 thats 1200 to 4800 a year, meaning, if you have a big dog you are spending same amount of money it takes to raise child annually as that candada report said in the article i put in my reply. Nigga if you saw the stupid shit people spend money on, espeically women, you wouldnt be saying this. Just look at the amount of fast food chains in the US - these single moms dont even cook, even though cooking is cheaper.

That might be true according to this article:

Americans waste $18K on ‘non-essential’ expenses a year

Between eating out, paying for cable and streaming services, receiving subscription boxes, and other superfluous spending, the average American spends $1,497 per month on non-essential items, accor…

nypost.com

 

[Orbiter]

why does having children even matter. so they can live in a shithole world with pajeeds?

 

[four1298]

For the 2025 tax year (filed in 2026), the U.S. Child Tax Credit (CTC) provides up to $2,200 per qualifying child under age 17, with up to $1,700 refundable via the Additional Child Tax Credit. This benefit is for working families with adjusted gross incomes (AGI) up to $200,000 (single) or $400,000 (married filing jointly). [1, 2, 3]

To be fair, $2,200 a year isn't enough to pay rent.

 

[aloocard]

Sorry, but it really is the economy. If you look at a graph of the birthrate it starts to fall after the housing market collapse and never goes up again. People realized there was no future for anyone to be born into. Almost my entire life has been lived in an age of decline and rot.

Renting is not that expensive

I can't imagine typing that in the year 2026

 

[kapri]

The better the economy, the less children there will be. Also the more freedom women have, the less children there will be. BOTH of there factors are at play and very significant.

 

[Morbilius]

It's all so tiresome, normies will never hold foids accountable.

 

[INVERTER]

Historically people literally had kids in famines

 

[Zionist]

Muh economic landscape when a shithole like Niger has the highest birth rates in the world

 

[Zionist]

Hypothetically let's say you find a girl and you 2 get married, even then having kids would be a huge gamble, because if you had a son (he would probably become an ink as well, high probability) and God forbid you have a daughter, she will be a whore at best. And at worst she will become a ranging troon feminist who hates you and the "patriarchy". It's a lose lose situation, even if someone on here manages to get a girlfriend or get married in the future, having kids is not worth it because of the way the world is right now, I see it both ways , women are to blame for the declining birth rates ofc, that's facts , but there's another thing which is the state of modern western society, many men don't see having kids as something good because, there's a high chance of your son becoming either an ink just like u or a faggot, your daughter will be a whore that's 100% no way around it, women are too weak minded to go against the bop agenda.

 

[Zionist]

The better the economy, the less children there will be. Also the more freedom women have, the less children there will be. BOTH of there factors are at play and very significant.

Women are worst than the plague when you give them rights, everything turns to dust and society crumbles

 

[Zionist]

Sorry, but it really is the economy. If you look at a graph of the birthrate it starts to fall after the housing market collapse and never goes up again. People realized there was no future for anyone to be born into. Almost my entire life has been lived in an age of decline and rot.



I can't imagine typing that in the year 2026

That's just straight up rubbish, 2 people can split rent, the thing is women don't want the average man. They want Chad, and Chad won't commit to them, that's blackpill 1.0

 

[Zionist]

why does having children even matter. so they can live in a shithole world with pajeeds?

It's more about pensions and social security, unless we end it all first

 

[Autistic Uggo]

I'm just tired of them endlessly demanding gibs each time birth rates are brought up. They call us entitled for wanting base needs like love and intimacy, but then demand we subsidise their lifestyles and pay them to have kids. Ironically, they make those demands while simultaneously importing billions of dirt poor foreigners who evidently do not need those conditions to raise several kids.

 

[RealSchizo]

Sorry, but it really is the economy. If you look at a graph of the birthrate it starts to fall after the housing market collapse and never goes up again. People realized there was no future for anyone to be born into. Almost my entire life has been lived in an age of decline and rot.



I can't imagine typing that in the year 2026

What a pitiful cope, this problem is literally present only in first and second world, where literally everything is much easier and accessible. It's just that no foid wants to carry oofy doofy's child, they are CHAD semen only.

 

[Its_Over_Now]

No matter how much proof is being presented, those normies refuse to acknowledge the root of the problem. No, It's not because of inflation, no it's not because housing is unaffordable, yes, you could say that housing is a major part of the problem, but in reality it is 10% of the issue, the biggest problem is WOMEN.
Men cannot get the average woman to look at them, literally ALL of them choose the top 10% of males, you're not interesting in their eyes, unless you're over 5'11 and have a chiseled jawline.
I don't believe in inflation being the main issue on why young men aren't breeding, it's all because of women and their pretensions and the direct consequences of it.
If you had a girlfriend right now that genuine loved you, then you'd both unite your finances and find a place of your own. Simple as. This is what happens, literally.
Renting is not that expensive especially when you both work, it's all cope or denial on the actual root of the issue, but i'd say it is the latter.
Men are in denial about it, and so they blame the politicians and the state of economy. They just can't come to their senses and come to the only logical conclusion that no woman would ever love them because of their looks.
Most states are literally coddling women when it comes to raising newborn children, stop the cope now, they get so many privileges, motherhood is affordable and even beneficial to women.

remove foids ability to work and vote then birth rates will go up.

Giving foids the ability to live for themselves (whatever that means) changed the game

 

[chihiro]

Muh economic landscape when a shithole like Niger has the highest birth rates in the world

thats because they are all inbred retards

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

TLDR:

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1. people had more kids with 1000000% less material comforts just 100 years ago (no running water, electricity, refrigeration, no toilets, showers)
2. people back then also had no social mobility, so that doesnt make a difference

The only thing gatekeeping birth rate is women. Women have aborted 60 million kids since 1970s in USA alone. If women wanted kids, they would exist. Women dont want kids, so no kids exist. EZPZ

Satisfactory income is such a big reason for the falling fertility rates that the poorer a country is, the higher is its fertility (at least so far, a lot of non-African countries might admittedly start skewing this correlation a bit.)

 

[GeckoBus]

Satisfactory income is such a big reason for the falling fertility rates that the poorer a country is, the higher is its fertility (at least so far, a lot of non-African countries might admittedly start skewing this correlation a bit.)

NO no you dont understand its because ethnics are scamming everyone in US so hard with fake daycare centers and other fraud operations, they are taking trillions from white people and using it to make more babies in their countries, take the 3rd world country black budget pill. The Somalia-Congolese alliance could obliterate USA if they unleashed their hidden wealth

 

[FromOuterVenus]

fake daycare centers

t-that's... fakeable?

 

[GeckoBus]

t-that's... fakeable?

you just register a daycare and then have no kids there, or the scammer community registers their own kids there and says its full yeah

 

[FromOuterVenus]

you just register a daycare and then have no kids there, or the scammer community registers their own kids there and says its full yeah