Serious I Am Actually Relieved I No Longer Have To Bother Approaching (To Me That Peace Of Mind Is A Minor "Perk" Of Accepting You Are An Incel)

[BlkPillPres]

I know I can't be the only one who feels this way

Once I accepted that I was incel and I had finished putting myself through the failure of 10's of approaches, the concept of approaching and asking for a date felt like a joke to me. I don't even remotely consider it anymore. At this point in my life, even if there was a woman who I thought I had a chance with I still wouldn't bother

BECAUSE I'M TIRED

I don't mean tired of rejection, I mean tired of "the game" itself

I'm tired of:
The word games you have to play
The mind games women play on you (and you are supposed to just "read" their hints and secret messages)
The second guessing of every action, hand twitch, pose, text, possible mumble of words, clothing style, food choice for breath odor, etc
Having to pretend you're interested in more than her body when she's completely uninteresting
The preparing of conversation starters before approaching
The "eye contact rules"
Etc, etc, etc

I'm not even joking, whenever I even think about the very concept of approaching (not even considering approaching a specific woman, but just thinking about all that approaching [the act] entails) I start to feel tired and relieved that I no longer have to do it

It literally just feels like too much work to someone like me, I'm an introvert and I'm very reclusive. I basically forced myself a fucking lot to approach, learn social cues, etc to try and get a date, and now that it never worked, I'm kind of relieved because it was so annoying to me, I don't care to do it

All I feel is mental fatigue whenever I think about approaching. It would not matter to me how attracted I am to the woman I'm targeting, that feeling alone will make me not even bother and make me glad I don't have to bother

I really just hate people tbh, the dishonesty of it all, like no person is "real" and having to play all these games is just so tiring to me. It just feels like you have to lie all the time just to interact with people, and for me that's just too tiring. Its so tiring to have to overthink everything so much and filter all of my thoughts and responses

Even right now as I'm typing this out I thought about approaching and started to feel tired, my typing speed even slowed down a bit JFL. I don't know how so many incels are still "trying to ascend" and keep approaching all into their 30's, 40's, 50's, etc, it just doesn't make sense to me



TBH I think I've become a different kind of incel altogether

Most incels "want in", they want to be able to participate in "the game", they want to be able to approach and have a chance and be treated fairly

If I woke up tomorrow and magically all women had realistic standards, and it was a known thing now and all the incels on this site were dating

I'm not even joking when I say I wouldn't "want back in", I really just don't care for it anymore, it all just feels like so much effort and stress for nothing

Even if you could date your looksmatch now you have to worry about marriage, the cost of children, paying bills, etc. I've become so accustomed to being alone and enjoying my own company, that another person around to worry about, another person I have to tip toe around and adjust my behaviors for, just seems like a huge annoyance to me

I really and truly just want to live alone and pay for sex to satisfy my needs, even if all women became as reasonable as men from tomorrow I'd still just want to be a hookercel, it just seems so peaceful of a life to me, no stress, no worrying about anyone, your life is literally just about you, you can just relax and focus on your needs

I would never trade away such a life for any woman, this is why I'm currently working so hard to get to that life (wealthmaxxing)

 

[Pengwin]

If you have to ''approach'' it's already over

 

[FukFeminism]

If you have to ''approach'' it's already over

 

[Deleted member 29003]

BECAUSE I'M TIRED

IDK if tired is the right word. I'm not Cucked and don't want to give any resources to foids to improve their lives theory maybe.Especially if their is no accession pre 30s.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Sums me up to a tee.

If you have to ''approach'' it's already over

 

[Numb]

If you have to ''approach'' it's already over

first reply best reply

 

[shadowsoulz125]

If you have to ''approach'' it's already over

No thats dumb, the correct term is to work hard. Even Chads have to approach but foids would just reply 10 sentences to Chad's hi, making it incredibly easy for them to get those bitches.

 

[Pengwin]

No thats dumb, the correct term is to work hard. Even Chads have to approach but foids would just reply 10 sentences to Chad's hi, making it incredibly easy for them to get those bitches.

What ascension copers don't get is that from a woman's perspective she's always settling because nobody is good enough for her, so an "ascended" incel is always going to have to be "working on himself" in order to keep a woman from straying

 

[Transcended Trucel]

 

[BlkPillPres]

Sums me up to a tee.

TBH I think I've become a different kind of incel altogether

Most incels "want in", they want to be able to participate in "the game", they want to be able to approach and have a chance and be treated fairly

If I woke up tomorrow and magically all women had realistic standards, and it was a known thing now and all the incels on this site were dating

I'm not even joking when I say I wouldn't "want back in", I really just don't care for it anymore, it all just feels like so much effort and stress for nothing

Even if you could date your looksmatch now you have to worry about marriage, the cost of children, paying bills, etc. I've become so accustomed to being alone and enjoying my own company that another person around to worry about, another person I have to tip toe around and adjust my behaviors for, just seems like a huge annoyance to me

I really and truly just want to live alone and pay for sex to satisfy my needs, even if all women became as reasonable as men from tomorrow I'd still just want to be a hookercel, it just seems so peaceful of a life to me, no stress, no worrying about anyone, your life is literally just about you, you can just relax and focus on your needs

I would never trade away such a life for any woman, this is why I'm currently working so hard to get to that life (wealthmaxxing)

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I can tell you are probably still a teenager, once you get to a certain age, a lot of the things you did before seem so repetitive that you just no longer want to do it anymore

 

[Deleted member 27159]

Yeah I am not going to bother doing all that autistic shit like reading the smallest of movements/tones and trying to sound interested even thought the only worth the foid has is her sexual value. I want to be able to have sex right away

 

[Deleted member 14218]

I know I can't be the only one who feels this way

Once I accepted that I was incel and I had finished putting myself through the failure of 10's of approaches, the concept of approaching and asking for a date felt like a joke to me. I don't even remotely consider it anymore. At this point in my life, even if there was a woman who I thought I had a chance with I still wouldn't bother

BECAUSE I'M TIRED

I don't mean tired of rejection, I mean tired of "the game" itself

I'm tired of:
The word games you have to play
The mind games women play on you (and you are supposed to just "read" their hints and secret messages)
The second guessing of every action, hand twitch, pose, text, possible mumble of words, clothing style, food choice for breath odor, etc
Having to pretend you're interested in more than her body when she's completely uninteresting
The preparing of conversation starters before approaching
The "eye contact rules"
Etc, etc, etc

I'm not even joking, whenever I even think about the very concept of approaching (not even considering approaching a specific woman, but just thinking about all that approaching [the act] entails) I start to feel tired and relieved that I no longer have to do it

It literally just feels like too much work to someone like me, I'm an introvert and I'm very reclusive. I basically forced myself a fucking lot to approach, learn social cues, etc to try and get a date, and now that it never worked, I'm kind of relieved because it was so annoying to me, I don't care to do it

All I feel is mental fatigue that drains whenever I think about approaching, it would not matter to me how attracted I was to the woman I was targeting, that feeling alone will make me not even bother and make me glad you don't have to bother

I really just hate people tbh, the dishonesty of it all, like no person is "real" and having to play all these games is just so tiring to me. It just feels like you have to lie all the time just to interact with people, and for me that's just too tiring. Its so tiring to have to overthink everything so much and filter all of my thoughts and responses

Even right now as I'm typing this out I thought about approaching and started to feel tired, my typing speed even slowed down a bit JFL. I don't know how so many incels are still "trying to ascend" and keep approaching all into their 30's, 40's, 50's, etc, it just doesn't make sense to me



TBH I think I've become a different kind of incel altogether

Most incels "want in", they want to be able to participate in "the game", they want to be able to approach and have a chance and be treated fairly

If I woke up tomorrow and magically all women had realistic standards, and it was a known thing now and all the incels on this site were dating

I'm not even joking when I say I wouldn't "want back in", I really just don't care for it anymore, it all just feels like so much effort and stress for nothing

Even if you could date your looksmatch now you have to worry about marriage, the cost of children, paying bills, etc. I've become so accustomed to being alone and enjoying my own company that another person around to worry about, another person I have to tip toe around and adjust my behaviors for, just seems like a huge annoyance to me

I really and truly just want to live alone and pay for sex to satisfy my needs, even if all women became as reasonable as men from tomorrow I'd still just want to be a hookercel, it just seems so peaceful of a life to me, no stress, no worrying about anyone, your life is literally just about you, you can just relax and focus on your needs

I would never trade away such a life for any woman, this is why I'm currently working so hard to get to that life (wealthmaxxing)

i have felt that way for quite some time now. I sometimes long for love but that heppens very rarely , i most want sex and once that is satisfied i don't feel a special reason to interact with women. I just wanna be by my self with my books ,gaming etc. etc

 

[Transcended Trucel]

Yeah I am not going to bother doing all that autistic shit like reading the smallest of movements/tones and trying to sound interested even thought he only worth the foid has is her sexual value. I want to be able to have sex right away

 

[Neggr]

If you have to ''approach'' it's already over

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

If you have to ''approach'' it's already over

 

[Deleted member 22549]

I'm tired of:
The word games you have to play
The mind games women play on you (and you are supposed to just "read" their hints and secret messages)
The second guessing of every action, hand twitch, pose, text, possible mumble of words, clothing style, food choice for breath odor, etc
Having to pretend you're interested in more than her body when she's completely uninteresting
The preparing of conversation starters before approaching
The "eye contact rules"
Etc, etc, etc

Honestly, i've noticed long ago that almost no normie does that bullshit, they unironically use the one-size-fits-all advice of "Dress in a decent and presentable manner, don't smell like shit, be yourself, act naturally and be nice to people". That's why when you ask them for advice, that's what they tell you, they are actually being 100% honest with you. Game doesn't matter that much, it all really boils down to LMS, even normies know that deep down, if you have to "Run Game", you're already too fucking far gone.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

I know I can't be the only one who feels this way

Once I accepted that I was incel and I had finished putting myself through the failure of 10's of approaches, the concept of approaching and asking for a date felt like a joke to me. I don't even remotely consider it anymore. At this point in my life, even if there was a woman who I thought I had a chance with I still wouldn't bother

BECAUSE I'M TIRED

I don't mean tired of rejection, I mean tired of "the game" itself

I'm tired of:
The word games you have to play
The mind games women play on you (and you are supposed to just "read" their hints and secret messages)
The second guessing of every action, hand twitch, pose, text, possible mumble of words, clothing style, food choice for breath odor, etc
Having to pretend you're interested in more than her body when she's completely uninteresting
The preparing of conversation starters before approaching
The "eye contact rules"
Etc, etc, etc

I'm not even joking, whenever I even think about the very concept of approaching (not even considering approaching a specific woman, but just thinking about all that approaching [the act] entails) I start to feel tired and relieved that I no longer have to do it

Chad doesn't have to do any of that though. That's what normies are forced to resort to.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Honestly, i've noticed long ago that almost no normie does that bullshit, they unironically use the one-size-fits-all advice of "Dress in a decent and presentable manner, don't smell like shit, be yourself, act naturally and be nice to people". That's why when you ask them for advice, that's what they tell you, they are actually being 100% honest with you. Game doesn't matter that much, it all really boils down to LMS, even normies know that deep down, if you have to "Run Game", you're already too fucking far gone.

Dude all normie males do this shit, they just think its fun because they are winning at the game, they've gotten used to it

There hasn't been one normie male I've talked too that didn't tell me he planned what he was going to say when he approached a specific woman he liked, or that women aren't playing mind games and you don't have to worry

There is no "one size fits all" for normies, only for Chads (chadlite included), normie males have to jestermaxx

 

[Tenshi]

yeah ngl I can feel you on that as well

 

[Speedloader]

If you have to ''approach'' it's already over

 

[Justdone]

Having “game” is a meme just like the term “sex education”

 

[LittleDarkAge]

Probably the only perk of being an incel is that you don't have to deal with the stress of social interaction very often. Especially "game" which was always cringey and awkward in my experience

 

[Emba]

It's like this... How many times do you have to burn yourself before you realize, "fire is hot, don't touch it."

 

[BlkPillPres]

Probably the only perk of being an incel is that you don't have to deal with the stress of social interaction very often. Especially "game" which was always cringey and awkward in my experience

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

 

[Hector Barbossa]

I get where you're coming from when you say that trying to date takes too much effort - even just trying to find, interact, and talk with girls these days is a chore. Having to pretend, exaggerate and act all the time just to play "the game" is tiresome.

I think what tires me most, though, is how much women can get away with these days and still think of themselves of as desirable enough to justify putting in zero effort into conversations or meeting people and still have it work out in their favor.

I personally think there is something seriously wrong with the dating pool today. So many young <25 year old single mothers, below average nobody girls with OnlyFans accounts, literal hookers on dating apps, garden variety sorority sluts, gross ham planets, and ogre-tier looking girls... To me, having to sift through all the human garbage is exhausting.

I like the idea of escortceling, it's fun, but I'm not a richcel so I can't do it at a frequency which would stabilize me mentally. It isn't really a long-term solution, just the only one we have right now. The way it's been recently is that I experience many weeks of emptiness with moments of outright despair, then I see an escort and everything's ok for about a week or two, then the cycle repeats. To me, the more economical/cheaper solution would be to find a gf, but because I'm an incel and the dating pool is poisoned, I have to either settle for one good meal every once in a while or starve to death completely.

Another part of me likes the variety and the lack of effort that you can put in with escorts, though. If I had the means to visit escorts more frequently I think I wouldn't want to play "the game" at all or ever again.

 

[Greyjediincel]

i have felt that way for quite some time now. I sometimes long for love but that heppens very rarely , i most want sex and once that is satisfied i don't feel a special reason to interact with women. I just wanna be by my self with my books ,gaming etc. etc

Same

 

[watcher]

If you have to ''approach'' it's already over

 

[BlkPillPres]

Another part of me likes the variety and the lack of effort that you can put in with escorts, though. If I had the means to visit escorts more frequently I think I wouldn't want to play "the game" at all or ever again.

Wealthmaxx

Its kind of the main reason I'm doing it, I also plan on moving to a country with a very low cost of living and easy to access prostitution (like the phillipines or thailand, or maybe czech republic or some other eastern european country)

If I can get that done, I'll be set for life, I'd never worry about another thing, and my entire life has been nothing but worry in my book, and I'm really tired of it

I think that's another reason I don't really want a "relationship" anymore, a relationship just means more worry and more drama, I don't want to worry about anything or anyone, I just want start enjoying life

 

[Deleted member 4760]

Hence at the end of day, threads like this confirm the only proper way for an Incel to cope si to go MGTOW

After rejections and failure to enter the dating market, one ha sno choice but to leave the game, since its rigged and the Return of Investment are way too low even if you were to succeed in the 1st place.

Think about it; pretend you were to ascend and marry a old post wall foid, well, thats where the real difficult parts cuz now youre married, have kids and have to keep her happy vuz if you dont its no sex, no love, divorce rape, say bye bye to kiddie.

The ROI of Dating, Gaming foids and relationship in the modern times, especially for Incel is way WAYY too low.

Personally, I am not a blakcpill absolutist, Im pretty sure over half the forum could ''ascend'' with an obese post wall naggy foid with a kid, so finding a Partner is not ''impossible'' as normies would say, its juste that the ''self improvement / quality of foid'' ratio is too low.

We have to do tenfold the effort of what most normie do for a fifth of the result.

 

[ordinaryotaku]

I agree tbh. Fuck the dating game, the dating game was rigged from the start, and for all men too. Even as a Chadlite, in today's competitive dating field, you have to jump through more hoops than a Cirque du Soleil acrobat to get a bitch who doesn't raise any more than two red flags. Approaching really isn't worth it for anyone.

 

[soymonkcel]

I know I can't be the only one who feels this way

You aren't

Having to pretend you're interested in more than her body when she's completely uninteresting

I feel intrigued to what would happen if low tier males like us and normies started rejecting boring females. What would happen? We know what happens when women get rejected by Chads (their standards raise up even further), but what would happen if someone of equal or lower SMV rejected them? Would their behavior be the same, specially after several rejections?

Even if you could date your looksmatch now you have to worry about marriage, the cost of children, paying bills, etc. I've become so accustomed to being alone and enjoying my own company, that another person around to worry about, another person I have to tip toe around and adjust my behaviors for, just seems like a huge annoyance to me

I totally relate to this

 

[Greyandoldcel]

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

The end outcome is always rejection. That's it. I've had enough.

 

[Ellviss]

why even bother..

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

The end outcome is always rejection. That's it. I've had enough.

 

[Deleted member 5712]

You are so good at expressing exactly how it feels to finally accept inceldom and give up. There is a sort of vindication you have when you finally gice up the chase.
i dont have to worry about clothes or how i look anymore. I dont have to get nervous around any girl anymore. I just ignore all of them. I dont have to think of witty responses or try to entertain total strangers so i can have a chance they will think im interesting.
i just simply exist. Exist and am free from chasing that which i will never catch.

 

[agingmentalcel]

I never approached to begin with, but I get this as a serious source of stress and letting go is a huge relief. If you ever read and forums or subs where guys are still trying, it's incredible how much time and resources men will waste on this to get zero results. Men investing the most in trying to date get 0 dates. So, you literally can't do any worse by not investing at all.

I'm relieved, too, by letting go of all that. And i'm not going to LDAR because I still have things I want to do and care about, but fighting my incel fate is not one of them.

 

[Deleted member 26923]

If you have to ''approach'' it's already over

I never approached to begin with, but I get this as a serious source of stress and letting go is a huge relief. If you ever read and forums or subs where guys are still trying, it's incredible how much time and resources men will waste on this to get zero results. Men investing the most in trying to date get 0 dates. So, you literally can't do any worse by not investing at all.

I'm relieved, too, by letting go of all that. And i'm not going to LDAR because I still have things I want to do and care about, but fighting my incel fate is not one of them.

 

[BITG]

You shouldn’t be allowed to IQ mog us so many times on this forum. There should be a limit tbhtbh

 

[Deleted member 21219]

I feel the same way. I feel less burdened and liberated, knowing anything i could have said/done wouldnt have helped anyways.

I think that's another reason I don't really want a "relationship" anymore, a relationship just means more worry and more drama, I don't want to worry about anything or anyone, I just want start enjoying life

Sounds like mgtow cope.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I never approached to begin with

Do you have some kind of physical defect (especially on your face)?

Are you really short (like 5ft 6In and below)?

If not you really shouldn't be saying this lol, because how do you really know you are incel or not if you aren't significantly disadvantaged in looks or you haven't approached

 

[FrereJacques]

My psyche can only handle so much humiliation.

 

[Autismus Maximus]

Yeah I am not going to bother doing all that autistic shit like reading the smallest of movements/tones and trying to sound interested even thought the only worth the foid has is her sexual value. I want to be able to have sex right away

I wouldn't mind a week or two of getting to know each other, but dating is harder than controlling an RBMK-1000 manually. Without arms. And blind.

Sounds like mgtow cope.

So what? I, too, refuse to be miserable because I'm an Incel. It's similar to getting mad because you can't afford a supercar. If you have the copious amounts of money to keep them on the road, they're nice, but if you don't, it's only reasonable to banish the thought of even owning them. Foids aren't that much different. They are like cattle to me.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Sounds like mgtow cope.

I don't see what anything I said has to do with MGTOW. I'm not saying "I'm better without a woman" or I'm "leaving women behind" like I'm some kind of catch

I'm just saying that I'm tired of all the games you have to play to even get a woman, and even if I could get one right now without fail, I wouldn't even want to bother because I'd have to play those games

If you haven't reached that point yet, you probably haven't approached much and you don't have to interact with normies on a daily basis

I'd really just like to coup up alone for a week and just eat fast food and watch anime, and not see another human face, just a nice week to escape normies a bit, having to deal with them is so annoying

 

[Deleted member 27159]

I wouldn't mind a week or two of getting to know each other, but dating is harder than controlling an RBMK-1000 manually. Without arms. And blind.

I would mind actually. It would be much easier to pay around $50 or so, an amount I can earn in less than half a day than simp for 2 weeks for sex. I want to be able to get sex right away

 

[agingmentalcel]

Do you have some kind of physical defect (especially on your face)?

Are you really short (like 5ft 6In and below)?

If not you really shouldn't be saying this lol, because how do you really know you are incel or not if you aren't significantly disadvantaged in looks or you haven't approached

No, but I've never received any interest or comments about my looks and most people assume I am alone. I went to 2 of the biggest universities during 2 stints over a 15 year period and no one ever spoke to me. In work places, when someone goes around asking everyone else what they are doing on the weekend they skip me or ask me a different question. If questions or conversations about dating come up in groups everyone assumes I have no dating life or at least no one inquiries because no women care about my relationship status at all since I'm not on their radar. Something came up in conversation at work, we were all given something from the company and this guy was telling other guys they could always give it to their wife or girlfriend. He told me I could give it to my mom or sister. One time when I was around 13 a girl "asked me out" on behalf of another girl as a joke/prank. That is one of the few times women have even spoken to me without being paid.

 

[Greyjediincel]

I really just like to coup up alone for a week and just eat fast food and watch anime, and not see another human face, just a nice week to escape normies a bit, having to deal with them is so annoying

Going on vacation next week. This is exactly what I'm going to do, except I'm also going to lift weights in my garage. Not for foids, cus it feels good and I like being big. Foids don't care about muscles unless you have roid-level results.

 

[BlkPillPres]

No, but I've never received any interest or comments about my looks and most people assume I am alone

Why wouldn't they, seems like you never initiate, that's literally what you have to do as a man, you're not a woman, people will assume you are alone if you aren't actively trying to affirm you aren't

 

[Deleted member 29115]

Why wouldn't they, seems like you never initiate, that's literally what you have to do as a man, you're not a woman, people will assume you are alone if you aren't actively trying to affirm you aren't

 

[agingmentalcel]

Why wouldn't they, seems like you never initiate, that's literally what you have to do as a man, you're not a woman, people will assume you are alone if you aren't actively trying to affirm you aren't

People don't have a default assumption that a person is alone and receives no romantic interest, unless there is something about that person making that evident. Most people will ask someone if he has a wife/kids/gf, whatever, they won't just assume that there is no way he could have a wife or GF, unless there is some aspect of that person's look or demeanor that screams "there is no way this guy isn't alone." To be clear I am talking about professional, academic, and social situations where it is assumed by everyone that there is no way I could have the opportunity to reproduce. yet, no such assumptions are made about anyone else or most other members of the group (maybe there are a couple other obvious incels, but rarely). That, combined with the agepill and all other possible pills and evidence supported by this community establishes my incel bonafides.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Most people will ask someone if he has a wife/kids/gf, whatever, they won't just assume that there is no way he could have a wife or GF, unless there is some aspect of that person's look or demeanor that screams "there is no way this guy isn't alone."

How ironic that you say this, please google "demeanor"

Demeanor - "outward behavior or bearing"

You never approach, you never initiate conversations, you keep to yourself, why wouldn't anyone who sees you assume you are a virgin?

I know I would, that's exactly how I used to act at work places

That, combined with the agepill and all other possible pills and evidence supported by this community establishes my incel bonafides.

No it doesn't work like that, if you haven't approached and tried to get a date, you don't know if you are a romantic failure, and you are probably just some fakecel holding yourself back due to your own cowardice

Dude I feel like this conversation is gone on long enough, if you aren't going to approach then its a waste of time talking to you, and you are just some crazy person likely keeping themselves a failure, I'm done, this is your problem, I have my own to worry about