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If you're either 25+ and ugly or even younger with objectively no hope, it's like being an underdeveloped 3rd world country. When you're 25+ it becomes very very hard.

How to have sex? How to kiss? How to flirt? This is all FINE-TUNING.

What I'm saying is, the older you get the more brutal it gets. At least when I was 23-26 I could cope much better, not well but better.

Swallow the agepill.
 
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just watched a video of rehab room explaining the same concept.
agreed.
 
Retribute while you're still young, before it's too late.
 
The older you get without havinf experienced a relationship and friendships the more damage your psyche will take.

Eventually you will be too far gone and it will actually be over, especially once you take the blackpill.
 
At least I'm a youngcel. If I am really lucky (and I'm talking 0.001% chance) I might be able to get a 30 year old landwhale roastie to settle for me. But I don't think I'm getting any better than that. God cursed me with being British and autism.
 
At least I'm a youngcel. If I am really lucky (and I'm talking 0.001% chance) I might be able to get a 30 year old landwhale roastie to settle for me. But I don't think I'm getting any better than that. God cursed me with being British and autism.
How old are you? I'm 28 and a KHHV but I don't even want a landwhale/very ugly girl, then I'd rather be alone. More importantly, she wouldn't want me either, so that's settled anyway.
 
How old are you? I'm 28 and a KHHV but I don't even want a landwhale/very ugly girl, then I'd rather be alone. More importantly, she wouldn't want me either, so that's settled anyway.
I'm 18. At least I can cope my way through by saying I haven't peaked yet etc
 
Their is solid research showing that if you don’t learn to talk by a certain age, I believe 5, it will be very hard to talk.

Basically, their are times in your life where your brain is ready to learn, and if you miss out, you can’t really learn.

I’d imagine the same applies to romantic relationships and even friendship. If you do t develop at least basic skills by a certain age, I’d imagine your brain simple does not develop.

Of course I suppose there is always hope, but honestly what is the chance that a 30 year old ugly male with zero social skills is going to find someone? And even if such a man finds someone, how does he even keep that cunt with all the dating apps and social media? Very small chance.
 
How old are you? I'm 28 and a KHHV but I don't even want a landwhale/very ugly girl, then I'd rather be alone. More importantly, she wouldn't want me either, so that's settled anyway.

I am in a similar position, but I’d be open to a whale. Even then close to 0.
 
Their is solid research showing that if you don’t learn to talk by a certain age, I believe 5, it will be very hard to talk.

Basically, their are times in your life where your brain is ready to learn, and if you miss out, you can’t really learn.

I’d imagine the same applies to romantic relationships and even friendship. If you do t develop at least basic skills by a certain age, I’d imagine your brain simple does not develop.
Interesting, I wasn't aware of this but makes sense.

Of course I suppose there is always hope, but honestly what is the chance that a 30 year old ugly male with zero social skills is going to find someone? And even if such a man finds someone, how does he even keep that cunt with all the dating apps and social media? Very small chance.
Good point. Can I ask how old you are?
 
If you're either 25+ and ugly or even younger with objectively no hope, it's like being an underdeveloped 3rd world country. When you're 25+ it becomes very very hard.

How to have sex? How to kiss? How to flirt? This is all FINE-TUNING.

What I'm saying is, the older you get the more brutal it gets. At least when I was 23-26 I could cope much better, not well but better.

Swallow the agepill.
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If you're either 25+ and ugly or even younger with objectively no hope, it's like being an underdeveloped 3rd world country. When you're 25+ it becomes very very hard.

How to have sex? How to kiss? How to flirt? This is all FINE-TUNING.

What I'm saying is, the older you get the more brutal it gets. At least when I was 23-26 I could cope much better, not well but better.

Swallow the agepill.
It's fucking over
 
Interesting, I wasn't aware of this but makes sense.


Good point. Can I ask how old you are?

I am 34 and completely fucked in life. I had no friends growing up and my shit parents encouraged me to be a loner. They are sick and horrible people.

I can’t even interact with men normally as friends, forget about cunts
 
The Developmental Windows of Love: Critical Periods and Romantic Capacity








In developmental neuroscience and psychology, the concept of critical periods—windows in which the brain is especially plastic and responsive to specific types of input—has long been central to understanding how humans acquire foundational capacities such as language and social bonding. While these ideas are well-established in domains like speech and early attachment, emerging evidence suggests that romantic capacity may also be governed, at least partially, by sensitive developmental windows. In other words, just as a child who is not exposed to language by a certain age may struggle to acquire it later, individuals who do not engage in basic romantic or intimate relationships during adolescence and early adulthood may find it increasingly difficult to form romantic connections later in life.





Language acquisition is perhaps the most thoroughly documented domain in which critical periods operate. Lenneberg’s hypothesis (1967) posits that language must be acquired before puberty to be fully fluent, a theory borne out by tragic real-life examples such as Genie, a child raised in extreme isolation who was deprived of linguistic input until adolescence. Despite years of intervention, Genie never developed normal grammatical language. The brain’s language centers, notably Broca’s and Wernicke’s areas, rely on early exposure to stimulate proper growth and interconnection. Without this stimulation, the neural pathways essential for fluent language remain underdeveloped or permanently impaired.





Social development, particularly friendship formation, follows a similar pattern. Early peer interactions teach children critical skills such as emotional regulation, empathy, negotiation, and nonverbal communication. Studies on socially isolated or neglected children show long-lasting impairments in their ability to form friendships or trust others. This is because the prefrontal cortex and limbic system, which govern social behavior and emotional responses, undergo rapid development in childhood and adolescence and are deeply shaped by experience during that time (Nelson, Fox, & Zeanah, 2014). If these experiences are absent, the individual may struggle with intimacy, boundaries, or even basic social reciprocity in adulthood.





Romantic relationships, though less frequently discussed in this framework, likely follow a parallel trajectory. Adolescence and young adulthood are typically the periods during which individuals experiment with emotional vulnerability, sexual attraction, and mutual dependency—elements that define romantic love. These experiences help establish neural templates for romantic attachment, involving oxytocin, dopamine, and serotonin pathways. If these bonds are not formed or at least explored during this window, individuals may find themselves unprepared for romantic intimacy later. The brain, no longer in a high-plasticity state, may treat romantic vulnerability as foreign or threatening, leading to avoidance, detachment, or social anxiety.





Moreover, early romantic experiences often serve as the training ground for adult partnerships. Breakups, jealousy, infatuation, and reconciliation are developmental tasks, not just emotional detours. They teach people how to manage risk and reward, self-regulate emotional responses, and assess compatibility. Without these early encounters, individuals may enter adulthood without the implicit social scripts that govern intimacy. Much like a person learning a new language in adulthood, they may understand the “grammar” of love intellectually but struggle to speak it fluently.





In conclusion, the idea that romantic capacity may be constrained by developmental timing is both biologically plausible and psychologically compelling. While it is not deterministic—human beings retain some plasticity well into adulthood—the absence of romantic experiences during formative years may lead to persistent emotional underdevelopment, just as lack of linguistic or social input hinders speech and friendship. Future research should more explicitly explore romantic attachment as a developmental process with sensitive periods, rather than a timeless capacity that can be cultivated at any age. Doing so may not only expand our understanding of human bonding but also inform interventions for those who find themselves stranded outside the developmental arc of intimacy.
 
I am 34 and completely fucked in life. I had no friends growing up and my shit parents encouraged me to be a loner. They are sick and horrible people.

I can’t even interact with men normally as friends, forget about cunts
Brutal. What advice would you give to your younger (20+ y/o) self?
 
Brutal. What advice would you give to your younger (20+ y/o) self?

Honestly I’d tell myself to leave the family as they fucked me even more. I’d just give up earlier no use in trying to hard imo. At least for me. I know that some people working hard pays off
 
If you're either 25+ and ugly or even younger with objectively no hope, it's like being an underdeveloped 3rd world country. When you're 25+ it becomes very very hard.

How to have sex? How to kiss? How to flirt? This is all FINE-TUNING.

What I'm saying is, the older you get the more brutal it gets. At least when I was 23-26 I could cope much better, not well but better.

Swallow the agepill.
how is it worse?
 
so fucked the average life expectancy is 80yrs and our body becomes developed at 16 + starts falling off at 30 barely any time to benefit
 
The older you get without havinf experienced a relationship and friendships the more damage your psyche will take.

Eventually you will be too far gone and it will actually be over, especially once you take the blackpill.
I'm losing my mind!:feelsgah:
 
I am 34 and completely fucked in life. I had no friends growing up and my shit parents encouraged me to be a loner. They are sick and horrible people.

I can’t even interact with men normally as friends, forget about cunts
I’m exactly the same. My parents encouraged me to be alone all the time and not have friends, but it only brought misery and loneliness. Interacting with any person is very hard, so interacting with foids is impossible.
 
I’m exactly the same. My parents encouraged me to be alone all the time and not have friends, but it only brought misery and loneliness. Interacting with any person is very hard, so interacting with foids is impossible.

My parents were jealous to see me out and about and ruined me. I always wonder if I had more social interaction if things could have been different
 
how is it worse?
Sex, kissing etc is something that needs to be developed and fine-tuned — this isn’t my idea but scientific and anecdotal evidence* proves that. IRL sex isn’t like porn at least not the first 10 times I assume. Performance anxiety, not knowing exactly what to do with your dick and lips, etc, are things you optimally need to go through between 16-20.

If you’re extremely nervous or don’t know what exactly to do, you will NOT get hard.

Sure I could hire a sex-escort (legal here) to learn but I don’t want to.
 
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how is it worse?
The Developmental Windows of Love: Critical Periods and Romantic Capacity








In developmental neuroscience and psychology, the concept of critical periods—windows in which the brain is especially plastic and responsive to specific types of input—has long been central to understanding how humans acquire foundational capacities such as language and social bonding. While these ideas are well-established in domains like speech and early attachment, emerging evidence suggests that romantic capacity may also be governed, at least partially, by sensitive developmental windows. In other words, just as a child who is not exposed to language by a certain age may struggle to acquire it later, individuals who do not engage in basic romantic or intimate relationships during adolescence and early adulthood may find it increasingly difficult to form romantic connections later in life.





Language acquisition is perhaps the most thoroughly documented domain in which critical periods operate. Lenneberg’s hypothesis (1967) posits that language must be acquired before puberty to be fully fluent, a theory borne out by tragic real-life examples such as Genie, a child raised in extreme isolation who was deprived of linguistic input until adolescence. Despite years of intervention, Genie never developed normal grammatical language. The brain’s language centers, notably Broca’s and Wernicke’s areas, rely on early exposure to stimulate proper growth and interconnection. Without this stimulation, the neural pathways essential for fluent language remain underdeveloped or permanently impaired.





Social development, particularly friendship formation, follows a similar pattern. Early peer interactions teach children critical skills such as emotional regulation, empathy, negotiation, and nonverbal communication. Studies on socially isolated or neglected children show long-lasting impairments in their ability to form friendships or trust others. This is because the prefrontal cortex and limbic system, which govern social behavior and emotional responses, undergo rapid development in childhood and adolescence and are deeply shaped by experience during that time (Nelson, Fox, & Zeanah, 2014). If these experiences are absent, the individual may struggle with intimacy, boundaries, or even basic social reciprocity in adulthood.





Romantic relationships, though less frequently discussed in this framework, likely follow a parallel trajectory. Adolescence and young adulthood are typically the periods during which individuals experiment with emotional vulnerability, sexual attraction, and mutual dependency—elements that define romantic love. These experiences help establish neural templates for romantic attachment, involving oxytocin, dopamine, and serotonin pathways. If these bonds are not formed or at least explored during this window, individuals may find themselves unprepared for romantic intimacy later. The brain, no longer in a high-plasticity state, may treat romantic vulnerability as foreign or threatening, leading to avoidance, detachment, or social anxiety.





Moreover, early romantic experiences often serve as the training ground for adult partnerships. Breakups, jealousy, infatuation, and reconciliation are developmental tasks, not just emotional detours. They teach people how to manage risk and reward, self-regulate emotional responses, and assess compatibility. Without these early encounters, individuals may enter adulthood without the implicit social scripts that govern intimacy. Much like a person learning a new language in adulthood, they may understand the “grammar” of love intellectually but struggle to speak it fluently.





In conclusion, the idea that romantic capacity may be constrained by developmental timing is both biologically plausible and psychologically compelling. While it is not deterministic—human beings retain some plasticity well into adulthood—the absence of romantic experiences during formative years may lead to persistent emotional underdevelopment, just as lack of linguistic or social input hinders speech and friendship. Future research should more explicitly explore romantic attachment as a developmental process with sensitive periods, rather than a timeless capacity that can be cultivated at any age. Doing so may not only expand our understanding of human bonding but also inform interventions for those who find themselves stranded outside the developmental arc of intimacy.
 
Kissing is crazy. How about i hold a females hand first. Im basically a child when it comes to relationships still. Grown man who hasnt even held a girls hand
 
Kissing is crazy. How about i hold a females hand first. Im basically a child when it comes to relationships still. Grown man who hasnt even held a girls hand
Same hear. Male 28, never kissed, hugged, held hands let alone fucked.
 

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