News How to increase your T levels naturally and lower E

[Bagelcel]

I thought this would be beneficial to some people.
In terms of increasing Testosterone levels the most obvious things would be
-Start lifting/Increasing your muscle mass
-Get enough sleep
-Good overall nutrition

Beyond that, some supplementation that will help you to increase your T levels would be

-KSM66 Ashwagandha
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3863556/
Ashwagandha after a 3 month treatment in rats showed a 167% increase in sperm count aswell as a 57% increase in sperm motility and a 53% increase in semen volume it did this by increasing Leutnizing hormone (LH) levels.
Furthermore it increased Serum testosterone levels by between 17-25%, this would in turn also have a positive effect on free T levels.

-Bacopa or Brahmi
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19041444
Brahmi doesn't have much of an effect on serum testosterone levels as KSM66 Ashwagandha (2-3% at best) but it will increase the motility of your spermatoza through stimulating your hypothalmus to produce more LH, it has also been linked with helping to ease "Brain fog"

-Choline birate alongside Inositol
Choline birate acts as a methalytor, it essentially binds to some of the excess estrogen molecules in your liver and it makes it possible for your liver to excise them from the body as opposed to being run through your system.
This will lower your overall E levels slightly, and it's definitely one i'd recommend

-Lactobacilllus strains of Probiotic
I personally don't use this too often as it's a bit harsh on my stomach, but i'd recommend using it twice a week, the rats in the study that took Lactobacillus Rhamnosus strain of probiotic were able to cope with stress much better than their control counterparts, lowered stress levels in turn means less cortisol, which in turn would mean you're protecting yourself from decreasing your free T levels as cortisol would raise your E levels and skew your T/E ratio.
http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2011/08/26/1102999108.full.pdf

Alongside these make sure to take daily
-a Multivitamin
-An omega 3 fish oil pill

I'll be adding more later but i'd like to substantiate other things i take with studies + i'm not downstairs right now so i don't remember EVERYTHING i take

 

[NEETAndTidy]

COPE

 

[fOreVER]

Inject test daily

 

[NEETAndTidy]

Inject test daily

High IQ reply

 

[whatmorecanido]

COPE

Look, i want a good body to feel good, strong, and have something i like looking at. It is a show of my dedication and determination, and if i can use safe, legal and medically acceptable ways to do it (not saying everything in the thread is) i'll do that.

I am not going to sit here and not work on any aspect of my life because i'm apparently coping to pander to women. They've ruined my life enough and i'd like to do something for myself. If that gets me women, good side effect.

 

[i_a_m_i]

Cope

 

[whatmorecanido]

Inject test daily

That's reckless and dangerous. No thanks jeffrey.

 

[NEETAndTidy]

Look, i want a good body to feel good, strong, and have something i like looking at. It is a show of my dedication and determination, and if i can use safe, legal and medically acceptable ways to do it (not saying everything in the thread is) i'll do that.

I am not going to sit here and not work on any aspect of my life because i'm apparently coping to pander to women. They've ruined my life enough and i'd like to do something for myself. If that gets me women, good side effect.

I have no idea why you aimed that at me

 

[whatmorecanido]

OP, this is a decent thread and i'd like more information about the safety of these. I already take Brahmi-Bacopa by the way with tea.

 

[fOreVER]

That's reckless and dangerous. No thanks jeffrey.

CHAD DOESNT GIVE A FUCK 5150

 

[whatmorecanido]

I have no idea why you aimed that at me

Not you personally just the whole cope thing going on my brethren

CHAD DOESNT GIVE A FUCK 5150

Then Fuck Chad, and Fuck Stacy. I'm getting a good body for me.

 

[Bagelcel]

OP, this is a decent thread and i'd like more information about the safety of these. I already take Brahmi-Bacopa by the way with tea.

Thank you, i'd advise you to take the other stuff too tbh.
I'll be adding to the list soon once i can substantiate it with more evidence

I was asked to make this thread, i'm aware it can be seen as "Cope" but i feel like it can be beneficial to alot of members that are about self improvement

 

[RopeShow]

I'll be going to the doctor this week to check my T levels, hopefully I'll get a prescription of something if they happen to be low.

 

[Gremlincel]

I'll be going to the doctor this week to check my T levels, hopefully I'll get a prescription of something if they happen to be low.

How do they check hormone levels? Is it just a standard blood test?

 

[whatmorecanido]

Thank you, i'd advise you to take the other stuff too tbh.
I'll be adding to the list soon once i can substantiate it with more evidence

I was asked to make this thread, i'm aware it can be seen as "Cope" but i feel like it can be beneficial to alot of members that are about self improvement

Tbh, this forum would be so much better if it became the following things:

A. Sober, non-bullshit advice about the reality of hypergamy, racial discrimination, the 20% , and lookism.

B. An actual bloody way for us to improve our lives, from things we can do, to potential legal surgery, to maxing out everything for us.

Seriously, people ascending one after the other and leaving a trail for others to follow.

I'll look into them bro! Thanks for sharing the information - and in particular legal and non-steroid ways.

 

[Bagelcel]

How do they check hormone levels? Is it just a standard blood test?

Yes it's a standard blood test, but if you're going to check your test you need to test the following
-Total Testosterone
-Free Testosterone
-Estrogen/Estrodil
-FSH/LH
-SHBG levels

 

[RopeShow]

How do they check hormone levels? Is it just a standard blood test?

Exactly what @Bagelcel said

 

[whatmorecanido]

Just wondering - if i took all of these herbal sups, ate right, increased mass - would it be enough of a raise to make a notable even if not significant difference to me?

 

[Bagelcel]

Exactly what @Bagelcel said

Make sure you get what i said checked, doctors are retarded and will ONLY check your Testosterone level, which is irrelevant if your free T is low or you're estrogenic

Just wondering - if i took all of these herbal sups, ate right, increased mass - would it be enough of a raise to make a notable even if not significant difference to me?

If you did all of that, you're looking at likely a 140-180% testosterone increase (my estimation)
But if your T levels are really low then even that won't get you to normal levels.
BUT any increase is better than no increase.

 

[RopeShow]

Make sure you get what i said checked, doctors are retarded and will ONLY check your Testosterone level, which is irrelevant if your free T is low or you're estrogenic

I'll keep it in mind, thx for the tips bro.

 

[Bagelcel]

I'll keep it in mind, thx for the tips bro.

Any time, here to help

 

[Gremlincel]

Yes it's a standard blood test, but if you're going to check your test you need to test the following
-Total Testosterone
-Free Testosterone
-Estrogen/Estrodil
-FSH/LH
-SHBG levels

Thanks. I'll do some more research, closer to the time. I don't know if I'll bother trying to get my T up, theres not really any point, but I'm still curious to hear about what sort of fucked up hormone levels I have, what exactly led me to become this, so I wanna get it tested.

Exactly what @Bagelcel said

Yo, make a post about it, once you get your results.

 

[Bagelcel]

Thanks. I'll do some more research, closer to the time. I don't know if I'll bother trying to get my T up, theres not really any point, but I'm still curious to hear about what sort of fucked up hormone levels I have, what exactly led me to become this, so I wanna get it tested.


Yo, make a post about it, once you get your results.

Worthwhile knowing tbh, try some of the stuff i listed though... Its a good cope and makes you feel somewhat better tbh.

 

[Robtical]

This is some good info, the ashwangandha helped me bust huge nuts. I was already eating healthy and sleeping ok, but I still have to work out more because I stay in bed most the time. Choline was pretty good too, but not as effective as ashwangandha.

 

[Bagelcel]

This is some good info, the ashwangandha helped me bust huge nuts. I was already eating healthy and sleeping ok, but I still have to work out more because I stay in bed most the time. Choline was pretty good too, but not as effective as ashwangandha.

You need to take the Choline in conjunction with a smaller dose of Inositol for it to function better

 

[RopeShow]

Thanks. I'll do some more research, closer to the time. I don't know if I'll bother trying to get my T up, theres not really any point, but I'm still curious to hear about what sort of fucked up hormone levels I have, what exactly led me to become this, so I wanna get it tested.


Yo, make a post about it, once you get your results.

Yes I'll post my results here once I have them

 

[Bagelcel]

Test levels during puberty is what makes the difference.

Actually it's your Pre-natal Testosterone levels that are the most important.

Test levels during puberty are important too, but not as important as the Pre-natal T levels.

Nothing wrong with wanting to increase your T levels naturally even after puberty though

 

[Robtical]

You need to take the Choline in conjunction with a smaller dose of Inositol for it to function better

I haven't tried that yet, thanks.

 

[Bagelcel]

I haven't tried that yet, thanks.

Any time, here to help
I'll be expanding this thread too with more stuff

 

[CopingGymcel]

Test boosters are cope. Inject or go home.

That's reckless and dangerous. No thanks jeffrey.

Buy pharma. Inject 150-200mg, whatever gets you to that 1k range. If your estrogen becomes too high, lower the test to a more moderate dose.

Of course don't do this if your test is already above the 450 mark, as there won't be that much of a difference going from medium-average range to high-average range. The difference isn't as huge as people like to think.

 

[Deleted member 60]

will look into these, thanks bro

 

[Bagelcel]

Test boosters are cope. Inject or go home.

Once you start injecting you realistically can't stop, it also decreases your testicle size aswell as shuts down your testicular production in the vast majority of cases.

I'd personally only recommend injecting T for people that's Total T levels are under 350 ng/dl
If you're over that you can get to a "Normal-ish" range naturally (for your age)

 

[CopingGymcel]

Once you start injecting you realistically can't stop, it also decreases your testicle size aswell as shuts down your testicular production in the vast majority of cases.

I'd personally only recommend injecting T for people that's Total T levels are under 350 ng/dl
If you're over that you can get to a "Normal-ish" range naturally (for your age)

Well, if your test isn't low to begin with, you shouldn't waste your money on test boosters. Just lol if you think that going from 500 to 650 is going to have any benefit whatsoever.

If your test is like 400, you would benefit from going up to like 900-1k, but no test booster is going to be able to achieve that.

 

[Bagelcel]

Well, if your test isn't low to begin with, you shouldn't waste your money on test boosters. Just lol if you think that going from 500 to 650 is going to have any benefit whatsoever.

If your test is like 400, you would benefit from going up to like 900-1k, but no test booster is going to be able to achieve that.

You can go from 400 to 650-700 through natural means, but yeah... you won't go to 900-1k at all.

Any increase is good though, would you rather have 400 or 650?

 

[CopingGymcel]

You can go from 400 to 650-700 through natural means, but yeah... you won't go to 900-1k at all.

Any increase is good though, would you rather have 400 or 650?

It doesn't matter what I would rather have. The fact is that any small increase from a test booster will not be felt unless you're already low T, in which case you're better off being on TRT.

 

[Involuntarily]

Only one way to become a real man.

Tren Hard.

Eat Clen.

Anavar give up.

 

[Bagelcel]

It doesn't matter what I would rather have. The fact is that any small increase from a test booster will not be felt unless you're already low T, in which case you're better off being on TRT.

TRT isn't an option for everyone, this post was made as an option for people who want to incrimentally increase their T levels/Lower their E levels without the need to
-Inject Test biweekly into their thigh
-Inject HCG 3x a week to retain their fertility and testicular function
-Take an Aromatose inhibitor to prevent the becoming too estrogenic due to higher levels of T

TRT is a life long commitment, and not one available to everyone and not the route that everyone would want to go down.

To say 400-650 isn't "Enough" to feel is misinformation and not substantiated with any evidence
Increasing your T and lowering your aromatisation can only be beneficial even if it's not to the levels of TRT.

 

[Deleted member]

Tbh, this forum would be so much better if it became the following things:

A. Sober, non-bullshit advice about the reality of hypergamy, racial discrimination, the 20% , and lookism.

B. An actual bloody way for us to improve our lives, from things we can do, to potential legal surgery, to maxing out everything for us.

Seriously, people ascending one after the other and leaving a trail for others to follow.

I'll look into them bro! Thanks for sharing the information - and in particular legal and non-steroid ways.

if “people ascended one after the other” the forum would be called “dryspell.me”. it is insulting to consider inceldom to be such a triviality.

 

[whatmorecanido]

if “people ascended one after the other” the forum would be called “dryspell.me”. it is insulting to consider inceldom to be such a triviality.

It isn't. I know how hard it can be because i've suffered badly and been bullied for my looks. But i'd rather we have a positive slant on how to get out of this mess.

 

[Deleted member]

It isn't. I know how hard it can be because i've suffered badly and been bullied for my looks. But i'd rather we have a positive slant on how to get out of this mess.

try a PUA forum. a big point of the blackpill is that it is simply over for some people and that they have no hope.

 

[CopingGymcel]

It isn't. I know how hard it can be because i've suffered badly and been bullied for my looks. But i'd rather we have a positive slant on how to get out of this mess.

Everyone should at least attempt to looksmax. I can't really refer to someone as incel if they haven't at least attempted to better their appearance, unless they're legit deformed or like 5'2. If you try and you still come out looking ugly, you're allowed to rot.

 

[Bagelcel]

It isn't. I know how hard it can be because i've suffered badly and been bullied for my looks. But i'd rather we have a positive slant on how to get out of this mess.

I agree with you on the positivity tbh, and that's allowed here with threads like these.
But ultimately we're not really allowed to talk about it if we ascend, which is understandable because this is an incel forum and not a "Looksmax" forum.
If i ascended, i'd give tips/answers about it to anyone that wanted it via PM but not out loud here.

 

[whatmorecanido]

I agree with you on the positivity tbh, and that's allowed here with threads like these.
But ultimately we're not really allowed to talk about it if we ascend, which is understandable because this is an incel forum and not a "Looksmax" forum.
If i ascended, i'd give tips/answers about it to anyone that wanted it via PM but not out loud here.

Seriously i can't tell you how happy i'd be hearing about people born with bad genetics, or had terrible acne scars, or were skinny as hell with a bad hairline and used legal surgery approved by a doctor, scientific methods, hard work, persistence to get the hell out of that. That takes bloody dedication, to sober up, and ascend. I guess rather than uses posting about ascending , threads like these are the next best thing. Legal ways to improve.

 

[Bagelcel]

Everyone should at least attempt to looksmax. I can't really refer to someone as incel if they haven't at least attempted to better their appearance, unless they're legit deformed. If you try and you still come out looking ugly, you're allowed to rot.

100%
There's too many incels that just want to LDAR and aren't actively trying every day to improve themselves (as much of a fucking sutrggle it is, and how much of a cope it is)...
If you haven't looksmaxed and atleast TRIED to moneymax/NTmax you're volcel
The Caveat obviously being if you actually have an irreconcilable trait that will stop you from ascending.

 

[whatmorecanido]

try a PUA forum. a big point of the blackpill is that it is simply over for some people and that they have no hope.

What if we combined blackpill with hope? Say things like they are without sugar coating them, expose the unfair reality of society, and then use the beauty of science. Surgery, working out, modern day methods means there can be hope for almost anyone even if the path is longer.

 

[Bagelcel]

Seriously i can't tell you how happy i'd be hearing about people born with bad genetics, or had terrible acne scars, or were skinny as hell with a bad hairline and used legal surgery approved by a doctor, scientific methods, hard work, persistence to get the hell out of that. That takes bloody dedication, to sober up, and ascend. I guess rather than uses posting about ascending , threads like these are the next best thing. Legal ways to improve.

We can openly talk about legal ways to improve/looksmax/ascend, but we just can't talk about anything to do with "After we Ascend" AKA showing off that we had sex after looksmaxing

 

[Evildoer]

eating healthy

Soy is not healthy.