which I think deserves an 'alt' in modern day given how ingrained the religious BS is in modern conservatism the past few decades
I'm basically a classical Liberal but modern "liberalism" has gotten so censor-heavy that you need to be conservative just to stand against it
I don't agree with that. Why should ethnonationalists get to monopolize the alt-right label?
I call BS on that.
Even if you wanted to say it centered around ethnic struggle, you should acknowledge it could simply be people who oppose anti-white racism and white genocide.
Not wanting your race singled out for hatred or bred out of existence isn't the same as believing you are superior to other races at everything or thinking that you can't share a nation with people from other places.
I think you are referring to a subset of the alt-right TBH and should name it by whatever is distinctive about that.
Clearly it's something more specific than merely being alternative, so calling it merely 'alternative' would be misleading.
You could say "ethno-nationalist alt right" and abbreviate that as ENAR for example.
I don't think conservative and progressive are things which have fixed measurements, they're always going to be relative to changing baselines.
I don't really mind abandoning Christianity and the focus on hating trannies is a red herring, I barely give a fuck.
Trannies could be normalized without doing shit like forcing the military to pay for their genital alteration surgeries, ignoring how trannies rape people by not notifying them about their status, or trying to push reassignment on uninformed subjects, minors or otherwise.
If they want real acceptance in the future they ought to make easily-reversible sex changes that don't doom someone if they later regret the decision. Until it's reversible, it's hard to shake the idea this is being done by those who want to permanently castrate the males of specific nations they target for this.
Alt-right is for boot-licking cucks. Imagine blaming all your problems on some poor immigrant, rather than the wealthy capitalists fucking you over.
Talk about being a useful idiot.
Talk about being a useful idiot.
I'm a national socialist so I guess I fall under the massive banner that is the (((alt right))) but just being a traditional conservative or a libertarian puts you in the same group.
This perpetuates a system where my vote means less, I have less job opportunities, when I get a job I earn less, with more money being poured into the economy to support some of these systems my money buys less, with the majority of immigrants being men the gender imbalance is fucked more and I have to compete more to find a partner, and with so many immigrants brought over they never integrate because they don't have to and soon my culture and values begin to be replaced.
Cucked if you don't hate the capitalist, the immigrant, and the vote farming politician.
The poor immigrant is there because the wealthy capitalist uses him, because he knows he will work for less and will lower wages because of it. The poor immigrant will then vote for progressive/left leaning parties that bring more immigrants over and put more strain on the economy with many of them going on welfare because of how little the capitalist pays them.
This perpetuates a system where my vote means less, I have less job opportunities, when I get a job I earn less, with more money being poured into the economy to support some of these systems my money buys less, with the majority of immigrants being men the gender imbalance is fucked more and I have to compete more to find a partner, and with so many immigrants brought over they never integrate because they don't have to and soon my culture and values begin to be replaced.
Cucked if you don't hate the capitalist, the immigrant, and the vote farming politician.
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I don't disagree, but as I said, that's not what people associate with the alt-right movement. Personally, I do think that there should be more than one alternative right. However, nowadays, if you're not a "woke" SJW most people will call you alt-right.
I agree, but that's not what they're promoting. I don't condone white genocide or the replacement of whites with North Africans either. And I'm not even white. But then again, as you've stated, that's different from being a white supremacist. However, despite agreeing with the alt-right that whites should no be systematically replaced, the alt-right would not accept it among its ranks solely because I'm only half white. Which goes to show what they're all about.
Yeah, that's one way of looking at it. People like us are able to see the problem with this definition of alt-right. And I fully agree with you that any deviation from the mainstream conservative voices should be characterized as alt-right. These days however, the term alt-right is associated with storm front types and ethnonationalists. Don't you agree that this is the world we live in? Don't you agree that the term alt-right has become synonymous with ethno-nationalism?
They shouldn't. They are the de facto holder of that label. That's all.
Well, I agree but only to a certain extent. Yes progressive and conservative are dependent on the timeline. However, conservatism is about conserving traditional values which are fixed. And if you fail to conserve them, you aren't really a conservative. That would be false labeling tbh.
I'm alt right.
Are you white, or you just hold the same views as them but you don't agree with the master race stuff?
Like as I explained in a previous comment here, I do agree with them on many issues but I don't call myself alt-right cuz I'm not fully white:
Most alt right are not white supremacists. That's just what the media portrays them as. Just like they portray incels as evil mass murderers. Take a visit to patriots.win and you'll see plenty of alt righters who are not racist and have different ethnicities.
I'm white btw.
Also if you want to learn more about the alt right point of view then watch some Paul Joseph Watson - PJW videos on youtube.
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Politics is giga cope for the masses to make them feel like they have power and that their voice/vote matters in some idealistic sensea. While you fight with your neighbors and dislike/hate them/think they're xyz because they support the other guy, your guy and your neighbor's guy are secretly shaking hands behind closed doors and making money hand over fist by putting their buddies' corporations first in their policies, leaving you - the citizen - to foot the bill.
Your personal and political beliefs and anything in between that overlaps don't matter at the highest level of the power structure. Up at the top it's all about money and control. Politics is Hollywood showbiz for the citizens. Nobody who's in power really cares about stupid political labels or beliefs. They just do whatever is in their best interest and in the best interest of whoever else belongs in their cloistered special clubs. They're all in bed with each other.
Come on, you guys here are smarter than that. If you're going to do anything political, you may as well just vote selfishly and take a chance on whomever is going to likely help your case (through whatever policy implementations that may help you somehow), regardless of what you personally believe in or what the puppet on stage represents.
Your personal and political beliefs and anything in between that overlaps don't matter at the highest level of the power structure. Up at the top it's all about money and control. Politics is Hollywood showbiz for the citizens. Nobody who's in power really cares about stupid political labels or beliefs. They just do whatever is in their best interest and in the best interest of whoever else belongs in their cloistered special clubs. They're all in bed with each other.
Come on, you guys here are smarter than that. If you're going to do anything political, you may as well just vote selfishly and take a chance on whomever is going to likely help your case (through whatever policy implementations that may help you somehow), regardless of what you personally believe in or what the puppet on stage represents.
Both sides are hypocrites these days, I agree. But politics is the only way to change things. Isn't it? Sure, the cuckservatives are compromising their values in favour of cheap labour, and are allowing a large influx of refugees in which creates chaos and destabilises society. But if things keep going that way the left will completely take over, and we'll be forced to be PC all the time. They'll keep reducing the language and taking words out of it until "thought crime" is no longer possible (just like in 1984).
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Yes, that's what's happening, and that's what will continue to happen. But what are you going to do? Your options are: 1) Make enough money so that you're practically unaffected and indifferent to whichever way the political winds blow, 2) Get up and leave behind your country, or 3) Fight.
#1 is extremely low probability, but always worth trying. #2 is impractical in many instances for social (language, culture), familial (self-explanatory), financial, and logistical (immigration laws and procedures etc.) reasons. #3 is also mostly impractical, as you generally won't have the means or the social support. It's also made illegal by the state to maintain their power infrastructure, and so their agents, who are brainwashed to think enemy of the state = criminal bad guy terrorist, will relentlessly hunt you down to stop and/or kill you; without stopping to think about the big picture.
T. guy who wants to jerk off to trannies
What most people associate with terms is usually due to corrupted MSM mislabeling the shit.
There inherently is multiple alt-rights, the whole point of the label is acknowledging several alternative groups who are classified as right while not falling in lockstep with mainstream party line views of the majority of the GOP
Basically if you meant a specific alt-right like the Proud Boys you would just say their name.
To first generalize what "they" are promoting you need to define the parameters of who "they" are, though.
I would classify Proud Boys as alt-right. They are usually called "far right" and I believe anything "far right" would be considered to be "alt right" because if you are "far" right you are not mainstream right-wing.
This is a picture of the leader of the proud boys:
Enrigue Tario is clearly an ethnic, only white in the sense of that weird practise of sometimes classifying Hispanics as white in some crime demographics.
Roosh is probably also considered alt-right and he's a middle-eastern blend of Iranian + Armenian Turk
The idea that half-whites wouldn't have a place in any far-right/alt-right movement whatsoever is laughable to me. They're actively leading sections of it, just like they are mainstream right with cubans like Ted Cruz.
Specific ones may be more restrictive, sure.
But that's like saying that since one leftist organization is blacks-only that whites aren't welcome among leftists.
I can acknowledge that MSM is trying to push that narrative, but I am opposed to just giving way to their efforts to define words by fiat.
Normies will adopt whatever talking points MSM pushes, usually.
Like for example the idea that it is "racist" to demand photo ID to vote.
This doesn't mean I should just agree that it is racist: fuck the MSM and fuck the normies.
De facto because MSM declares it? No thanks.
I don't agree that traditional values are fixed.
Let's use "loyalty to the crown" as an example.
This was a "traditional value" prior to the founding of the United States.
The monarchists who remained loyal to Britain were "conservative" (wanted to maintain status quo) while those who declared independence were Liberals/Progressives.
However once US is established, maintaining that status-quo of freedom is now considered conservation.
Jew jokes have been part of chan outsider culture since pretty much inception and it's natural for them to float here.
They're a soft way to open people to the idea of criticizing jews (first through humor) because the dark reality of the Jew is so overwhelming you basically wouldn't believe it if it were presented seriously outright.
You'd probably think the softcore porn of mohels putting babies' dicks into their mouths was some kind of false flag CP and refuse to look at reality.
This is their pre-pedophilic blood ritual they've practised for millenia. It is the cornerstone of their faith which socities have managed to remain mostly blind to, but hopefully the internet will finally purify humanity with daylight.
Still waiting on it though, might take several more decades for the memes to circulate.
It's actually amazing proof of clown world that even government websites acknowledge this but there's still no outcry against the jew:
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I'm not anything
I'll respond to this properly later. But you do make good points.What most people associate with terms is usually due to corrupted MSM mislabeling the shit.
There inherently is multiple alt-rights, the whole point of the label is acknowledging several alternative groups who are classified as right while not falling in lockstep with mainstream party line views of the majority of the GOP
Basically if you meant a specific alt-right like the Proud Boys you would just say their name.
To first generalize what "they" are promoting you need to define the parameters of who "they" are, though.
I would classify Proud Boys as alt-right. They are usually called "far right" and I believe anything "far right" would be considered to be "alt right" because if you are "far" right you are not mainstream right-wing.
This is a picture of the leader of the proud boys:
Enrigue Tario is clearly an ethnic, only white in the sense of that weird practise of sometimes classifying Hispanics as white in some crime demographics.
Roosh is probably also considered alt-right and he's a middle-eastern blend of Iranian + Armenian Turk
The idea that half-whites wouldn't have a place in any far-right/alt-right movement whatsoever is laughable to me. They're actively leading sections of it, just like they are mainstream right with cubans like Ted Cruz.
Specific ones may be more restrictive, sure.
But that's like saying that since one leftist organization is blacks-only that whites aren't welcome among leftists.
I can acknowledge that MSM is trying to push that narrative, but I am opposed to just giving way to their efforts to define words by fiat.
Normies will adopt whatever talking points MSM pushes, usually.
Like for example the idea that it is "racist" to demand photo ID to vote.
This doesn't mean I should just agree that it is racist: fuck the MSM and fuck the normies.
De facto because MSM declares it? No thanks.
I don't agree that traditional values are fixed.
Let's use "loyalty to the crown" as an example.
This was a "traditional value" prior to the founding of the United States.
The monarchists who remained loyal to Britain were "conservative" (wanted to maintain status quo) while those who declared independence were Liberals/Progressives.
However once US is established, maintaining that status-quo of freedom is now considered conservation.
Jew jokes have been part of chan outsider culture since pretty much inception and it's natural for them to float here.
They're a soft way to open people to the idea of criticizing jews (first through humor) because the dark reality of the Jew is so overwhelming you basically wouldn't believe it if it were presented seriously outright.
You'd probably think the softcore porn of mohels putting babies' dicks into their mouths was some kind of false flag CP and refuse to look at reality.
This is their pre-pedophilic blood ritual they've practised for millenia. It is the cornerstone of their faith which socities have managed to remain mostly blind to, but hopefully the internet will finally purify humanity with daylight.
Still waiting on it though, might take several more decades for the memes to circulate.
It's actually amazing proof of clown world that even government websites acknowledge this but there's still no outcry against the jew:
So we're fucked? I mean, it all begins with the school system. The current K12 indoctrination system preconditions kids to be progressive, and is normalizing PC, trannies, etc. If we manage to to keep politics out of the education system we might be able to create a generation of free thinkers. I know that this is far fetched and somewhat unrealistic, but it's not impossible. The system could, at least in theory, be reformed.
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I just despise the existence of my people and wish the British would've sterilized us all
Bro, is that really you? If so, you mog me to oblivion. Guess I am the only subhuman.
This tbh.
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Reforming the education system is a Sisyphean task. The school system was originally designed to create loyal, workers instilled with nationalism. You'd have to be at least the education secretary/minister. Even then, there are so many moving parts that you couldn't directly do a complete overhaul. You would have to devise a plan and strategy that would take decades AND hide it from outside forces trying to influence it with their own agendas.
(((Christian values)))
You have got to be kidding me.
ya gonna allude to the fact that Jesus was a Kike?
Jewsus is a fictional character created by kikes.
This is aggressively retarded shit and displays a less than superficial understanding of any of the beliefs involved.
Right leaning but definitely not alt right
The fact that most of the crap in the bible was plagiarized from pagan religions tells you all you need to know.
All the (((evidence))) we have concerning that issue was tampered with by the Kikes. However, many prominent atheists still hold the notion that Jesus existed but he didn't have any supernatural powers or origin.
And nigga my eyes hurt from reading the article you sent cuz of the colour. But I'll give it a thorough read later.
Did you ever consider the pagans plagiarized from the stuff we say happened? Or anything about archetypes familiar to you? Dude..these are issues raised about my religion I was aware of when I was 12. They're shallow and not a credit to atheists nor Christians alike.
I started as a ron paulcel then moved to trump. Kinda lost interest since joe biteme won
Explain why all the prophetic figures in the bible are kikes and that all the gentiles get brutally slaughtered.
Long story short: God chose Jews because they are the worst people as a way of saying that if He could forgive them, then He could forgive anyone. If good could come from the Jews (in the form of Christ), than it can come from anywhere. After this, God said he would BTFO anyone who messed with this bunch, and all sorts of war and fighting ensued in the Bible. God knew the Jews would betray Him, like how Lucifer, and Adam also had (kinda sorta--it's more complicated than that)
Anyways, when the Jews killed Jesus it was time for salvation to be available to everyone (and also retroactively for the Gentiles born before Christ).
So Christianity is all about awaiting the return of the good jew (an oxymoron)? JFL!!!!
This statement right here is proof that Christianity is some kike shit.
Keep worshiping biblical jews you shabbos goy.
That's...an incredibly reductive approach to be honest. I don't think I can help you, mate.So Christianity is all about awaiting the return of the good jew (an oxymoron)? JFL!!!!
Keep worshiping biblical jews you shabbos goy.
You're beyond redemption if you think any good can ever come out of kikes.
I was somewhat until I saw 2016 pol go full retard for zogbot Donald and realized that the alt-right is just an edgy-but-kosher political movement.
Reminder whites invented and contributed nothing but a culture of degeneracy
I hate the term Alt-right, it reeks of Richard Spencer faggotry. I was talking about White Nationalism before there was even a label known as Alt-Right which for me is nothing more than controlled opposition now because they infiltrate all organizations. [Just look at the massive Psyop of Proud Boys with their black cocoa puff F.B.I. informant.]
While I would still call myself a White Nationalist today where my hatred of Jews in general has only been on the increase I'm starting to view myself as a sort of Spenglerian pessimist in that on the one hand I wish western civilization with White European people in it could be saved for a cultural revival or renaissance, but on the other hand I wouldn't even know where to begin for a majority of people that don't want to be saved who choose self destruction and suicide instead, so now I'm just left with the feeling we're all doomed in route to go the path of the Dodo Bird where there is fuck all we can do about it with a bunch of people that want us dead in this world.
I admire political systems like monarchy, fascism, and national socialism but I also know that in today's world they're virtually unfeasible in ever being revived, so in my pessimism and general doom or gloom I've become a political nihilist seeing the collapse of modern industrial civilization as the only solution to the various problems that plague modern societies.
The only way to escape the globalist totalitarian matrix or simulation is for it to be entirely destroyed.
And as far as I'm concerned, cosmopolitan civic nationalism isn't real nationalism, it's like a kosher fake brand of nationalism. Any kind of nationalism that doesn't talk about race, ethnicity, culture, identity, or shared history I can't take seriously at all and neither should anybody else. I have equal hatred for cuckservatives, shitlibs, and Marxists alike, I hate them all equally.
While I would still call myself a White Nationalist today where my hatred of Jews in general has only been on the increase I'm starting to view myself as a sort of Spenglerian pessimist in that on the one hand I wish western civilization with White European people in it could be saved for a cultural revival or renaissance, but on the other hand I wouldn't even know where to begin for a majority of people that don't want to be saved who choose self destruction and suicide instead, so now I'm just left with the feeling we're all doomed in route to go the path of the Dodo Bird where there is fuck all we can do about it with a bunch of people that want us dead in this world.
I admire political systems like monarchy, fascism, and national socialism but I also know that in today's world they're virtually unfeasible in ever being revived, so in my pessimism and general doom or gloom I've become a political nihilist seeing the collapse of modern industrial civilization as the only solution to the various problems that plague modern societies.
The only way to escape the globalist totalitarian matrix or simulation is for it to be entirely destroyed.
It amazes me to this day all the so called White Nationalists that voted for the kosher Zionist known as Donald Trump, that was the biggest dark pill for me to swallow of just how insane this world really is. The moment that happened I became even more firmly aware of our overall collective doom. White European boomers are the greatest generational mental sheep to have ever existed and their over all faith in the current system or today's crony capitalism can only be described as an engrained mental illness through years of propaganda overload. Their younger children or offspring aren't all that much better.
And as far as I'm concerned, cosmopolitan civic nationalism isn't real nationalism, it's like a kosher fake brand of nationalism. Any kind of nationalism that doesn't talk about race, ethnicity, culture, identity, or shared history I can't take seriously at all and neither should anybody else. I have equal hatred for cuckservatives, shitlibs, and Marxists alike, I hate them all equally.
Reminder that all races and ethnicities have been fighting, enslaving, or killing each other for thousands of years where White Europeans don't have ownership of that by ourselves. It's merely that we were first to colonize much of the world where all this cultural Marxist anti-white bullshit derives, it could of easily been the Mongolians had they invaded all of Europe sailing westward. It could of been the 16th century Chinese colonizing the natives of North America had they sailed eastward before Spain made colonization efforts.
Reminder that all races and ethnicities have been fighting, enslaving, or killing each other for thousands of years where White Europeans don't have ownership of that by ourselves. It's merely that we were first to colonize much of the world where all this cultural Marxist anti-white bullshit derives, it could of easily been the Mongolians had they invaded all of Europe sailing westward. It could of been the 16th century Chinese colonizing the natives of North America had they sailed eastward before Spain made colonization efforts.
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